BERNIMOORE:

Absolutely there was no difference between AGELLOS and MALAWK, you claimed that there was a reason agellos was used for both spirit angel and humans, Again malawk was also used foR spirit angels,and humans,

see it below;

Genesis 16:7-14

7 The[b] angel of the Lord[/b](malawk) found Hagar near a spring in the desert; it was the spring that is beside the road to Shur. 8 And he said, “Hagar, slave of Sarai, where have you come from, and where are you going?”

"(2Sam 3:14) And David sent messengers"(human)[malawk] ”

[size=14pt]tell us the reason why MALAWK WAS USED THE SAME WAY AS AGELLOS, both applied to spirit angel and humans specifically using above post as to butress what you mean, leave definations for now, dont lift def. here 4 now., interprete using this case study here.[/size]

benalvino:

of course you know what am talking about... [size=18pt]the supernatural spirits in heaven and the demons where ever they are, are called angels... [/size]
the bible always refer to them as angels or when aggelos is used concerning them it almost always translate angel instead of messenger...

trying again and failing agian

[size=18pt]God was a supernatural spirit and he was not an Angel[/size]... he takes the form of anything... even angels.

One big difference from God as a spirit and Angel as a spirit is that seeing him in his glory will kill them also... that alone means they must not be like him.

.

BERNIMOORE:

im happy for this,

from your post above, we can rightly say that God and Angels share 'supernatural spirit form' while God is[b] NOT A MESSENGER, listed from your post below[/b]


[size=18pt]God was a supernatural spirit and he was not an Angel[/size]

[size=18pt]the supernatural spirits in heaven and the demons where ever they are, are called angels... [/size]

im i right?

benalvino:

now you are making your self look bad.
[size=18pt]yes of course they are supernatural
[/size]
Humans and animals have flesh and bones made of the same substance... But animals are not humans and humans are not animals...

so i am asking you... the supernatural spirit in heaven and the ones cages somewhere what are they called

before you start making mess of this post let me tell you that my question above is not dealing with the creator! but the host in heaven he created.

BERNIMOORE:

[size=18pt]supernatural what? be specific, dont stay on the fence, (God and Angels)are supernatural spirit form/nature? [/size]

im i right, or you are not talking about form, only supernatural,

pls indicate 'if it is supernatural spirit form/nature' or just supernatural!

or sup

benalvino:

good question..

[size=18pt]angels are to serve God and man[/size]... the bible differentiate angels from man... angels are servant by default and humans are not...
[size=18pt]an angel is a nature that is why the bible translates supernatural spirits as angel[/size] and [size=18pt]when same task is performed by man it translate a messenger...[/size]

fact is the words are common in meaning... aggelos was applied to spies... it can be applied to a dog or pigeon.

again the words should be used rightly and the way the context suggest..

remember elohim means God it also means great too... like the great[elohim] earthquake the bible talks about... wont there be problem if that passage is translated god earthquake?

while messenger and angel can be use interchangeably we should consider using it right in a way it fits the context...

like i said before there is a reason aggelos translates an angel and messenger...
because one is the nature of some supernatural spirits.

an angel is a nature that is why the bible translates supernatural spirits as angel

when same task is performed by man it translate a messenger...

BERNIMOORE:

[size=18pt]angels are to serve God and man= proof here shows 'serving' was a task and nothing like 'form of Angel' [/size]


[size=18pt]an angel is a nature that is why the bible translates supernatural spirits as angel(implication of this is that angels by default possesed 2 form/nature but rather they possesed just one by default=supernatural spirit form/natureangels, the other 'task' you forced as a form was their duty'service'[/size] and [size=18pt]
[/size]

you rightly define angels duty as 'task' below



why are you forcing task 'as nature/form'? yet they are supernatural in form/nature

benalvino:

and you still wont clear your confusion by answering this.

we are called humans...
the spirit or host in heaven created by God what are they called?

till you answer this question we are not moving further...

BERNIMOORE:

now you have seen the truth

you saw the fallacy of forcing 2 natures by default on angels, while admitting that angels are supernatural in nature/form of which they shared the same supernatural form with God, but that the messenger task of angels was meant for angels

BERNIMOORE: you knew that supernatural spirits are 'a nature/form' but[b] you DELIBERATELY NOT ADDED 'form/nature' to supernatural spirits, leaving the statement 'open for twist'[/b] i saw it,

we are called humans, NOT WITHOUT REASON BUT BECAUSE OUR NATURE/FORM IS HUMAN/FLESH by default

[size=18pt]Angels[/size] are supernatural spirit form/nature by default, called 'sons of God' their task 'messenger' is NOT a nature but task

benalvino:
is this your answer?

BERNIMOORE: you knew that supernatural spirits are 'a nature/form' but[b] you DELIBERATELY NOT ADDED 'form/nature' to supernatural spirits, leaving the statement 'open for twist'[/b] i saw it,

we are called humans, NOT WITHOUT REASON BUT BECAUSE OUR NATURE/FORM IS HUMAN/FLESH by default

Angels are supernatural spirit form/nature by default, called 'sons of God' their task 'messenger' is NOT a nature but task

BERNIMOORE: you knew that supernatural spirits are 'a nature/form' but[b] you DELIBERATELY NOT ADDED 'form/nature' to supernatural spirits, leaving the statement 'open for twist'[/b] i saw it,

we are called humans, NOT WITHOUT REASON BUT BECAUSE OUR NATURE/FORM IS HUMAN/FLESH by default

[size=18pt]Angels[/size] are supernatural spirit form/nature by default, called 'sons of God' their task 'messenger' is NOT a nature but task

BERNIMOORE: you knew that supernatural spirits are 'a nature/form' but[b] you DELIBERATELY NOT ADDED 'form/nature' to supernatural spirits, leaving the statement 'open for twist'[/b] i saw it,

we are called humans, NOT WITHOUT REASON BUT BECAUSE OUR NATURE/FORM IS HUMAN/FLESH by default

[size=18pt]'Messenger'[/size] are supernatural spirit form/nature by default, called [size=18pt]'sons of God'[/size] their task 'messenger' is NOT a nature but task

BERNIMOORE: OH, THAT LOGIC WONT GO, since Angel=messenger,

and because it was my post, im allowed to present my point as i want im removing Angel since it means messenger 'in quote'



if you want us to troll again, im ready,


how do you see that?

benalvino: and mind you... [size=18pt]animals have flesh too as you put it default... So is it safe to call animals humans?[/size]

then you went on to say angels are supernatural spirit in form/nature exactly what i have been saying... then you say their task messenger is not a nature... like i said before their task is to serve God and Humans... i never said messenger is their nature...

benalvino:

hahaha making your self look more stupid...

that is your answer to my question therefore you are saying messengers like Isaiah are supernatural spirits! hahahahahaha
you want to kill me with laugh. you have made your self a complete joke

BERNIMOORE:

Good point,

the bible says humans and animal are same form by default= [b]from dust they were made[/b]

[size=18pt]Ecclesiastes 3:18-21

"sons of men, God tests them, that they may see that they themselves are like animals.” 19 For what happens to the sons of men also happens to animals; one thing befalls them: as one dies, so dies the other. Surely, they all have one breath; man has no advantage over animals, for all is vanity. 20 All go to one place: all are from the dust, and all return to dust. 21 Who knows the spirit of the sons of men, which goes upward, and the spirit of the animal, which goes down to the earth?[/size]

can you see why a slave cannot have another 'form/nature' by default? you must change the answer i trust you oya

BERNIMOORE:

you swallow hook in your laugh, i put the messenger 'in quote' meaning it is subjected not to your own discretion my mine own preffered meaning.ok

author=benalvinothen you went on to say angels are supernatural spirit in form/nature exactly what i have been saying... then you say their task messenger is not a nature... like i said before their task is to serve God and Humans... [size=18pt]i never said messenger is their nature..[/size].

benalvino:

good question..

angels are to serve God and man... the bible differentiate angels from man... [size=14pt]angels are servant by default and humans are not...[/size]
an angel is a nature that is why the bible translates supernatural spirits as angel and when same [size=14pt]task is performed by man it translate a messenger...[/size]

fact is the words are common in meaning... aggelos was applied to spies... it can be applied to a dog or pigeon.

again the words should be used rightly and the way the context suggest..

remember elohim means God it also means great too... like the great[elohim] earthquake the bible talks about... wont there be problem if that passage is translated god earthquake?

while messenger and angel can be use interchangeably we should consider using it right in a way it fits the context...

like i said before there is a reason aggelos translates an angel and messenger...
because one is the nature of some supernatural spirits.

BERNIMOORE: you denied saying messenger is angels nature,



yet you admit servant as their default nature;




without using your dictionary, in your own words, what is the difference btw messenger and servants?

BERNIMOORE: [size=18pt]you are saying that Angels are servant(by default) and supernatural spirit/form/nature (by default) [/size]

thats it,

benalvino: I ask you a question instead of you to answer it you are dodging... you must answer the question... when i say "messenger" what i my referring to?
a: spirits (...)
b: humans (elijah)
c: animals(dog, pigeon)
d: human spirit(dead humans)

oya answer

BERNIMOORE:

i own the post, yours reply was afterthough to to change my meaning and it was wrong to imput your own meaning, mine own and you knew that, so, it is logical to assume my meaning in quote.

if it was you post, fine so you swallowed it along with the quote i planted

BERNIMOORE: Angels are supernatural spirit form/nature by default, called 'sons of God' their task 'messenger' is NOT a nature but task

BERNIMOORE: 'Messenger' are supernatural spirit form/nature by default, called 'sons of God' their task 'messenger' is NOT a nature but task

BERNIMOORE: OH, THAT LOGIC WONT GO, since Angel=messenger,
and because it was my post, im allowed to present my point as i want grin grin grin grin im removing Angel since it means messenger 'in quote'

BERNIMOORE: i own the post, yours reply was afterthough to to change my meaning and it was wrong to imput your own meaning, mine own and you knew that, so, it is logical to assume my meaning in quote.

if it was you post, fine so you swallowed it along with the quote i planted