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Re: Soludo Sues APGA Over Disqualification by rareman(m): 12:36pm On Aug 23, 2013
Obviously its a requiem for APGA, though personally I will not support soludo going to court but anything to get back to the ring will be appreciated. For now Soludo is the chance APGA have to retain that sit, but they chose to throw that away, its their funeral. May I suggest in the absence of Soludo we should rally round Ngige. Pdp should and their cohort should kiss Anambra goodbye
Re: Soludo Sues APGA Over Disqualification by Longeria(m): 12:36pm On Aug 23, 2013
berem: Then, be ready to eat Amala and Ewedu soup because Ngige is going to be the next governor of Anambra state. cool

Ngige, Ngige, Ngige k'anyi ga eso!

Ma o na ejeje , Ma o na alala!

Ngige k'anyi ga eso!

cool cool
YOU'RE right.........




Ngige will be next governor of nairaland
Re: Soludo Sues APGA Over Disqualification by igala1(m): 12:41pm On Aug 23, 2013
0nlytruth:

And who told you that he did not secure any serious commitment from Obi?
The problem with you Nigerians is that you tend to forget too quickly key information pertaining a person.
Soludo is not a political neophyte. He has been into politics right from student union days at the UNN in 1984. He has always been a poltical animal. He is ALSO A FIRST CLASS BRAIN. Combine those two qualities and what you have is a potential political legend.
That people like him are not running Nigeria is a testament to the country's inate self destructive tendencies.

Peter Obi is making the exact same mistake you are making here, and that is to assume that the rest of your opponents are fools.
Well, we shall see.
But this may lead to a loss to Jonathan in 2015. Anambra state is like the engine room of Igbo opinion.
With Rochas in APC, if Ngige wins Anambra, it is all over for Jonathan in 2015.

One strategy Ngige/APC would adopt is to offer Soludo deputy governor slot and that is it. Finish. Click like if u understand

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Re: Soludo Sues APGA Over Disqualification by igala1(m): 12:55pm On Aug 23, 2013
It is NGIGE/SOLUTION 2014 Anambra brass up for Ngige as governor and Soludo as deputy
Re: Soludo Sues APGA Over Disqualification by igala1(m): 12:59pm On Aug 23, 2013
FreeGlobe: while am in support of Soludo's action, I'm afraid of what will happen in the APGA primaries even when he wins the court case. He should head to another party in time. Peter Obi should be shamed of himself

It is NGIGE/SOLUTION 2014 Anambra brass up for Ngige as governor and Soludo as deputy
Re: Soludo Sues APGA Over Disqualification by Stallione(m): 1:09pm On Aug 23, 2013
undecided sad
Kingsley1000: ...GUY SHUT UP.I DOESNT MEAN ANYTIN.MOREOVER,OBI ANNOINTED ONE"OBIANO{former director of fidelity bank}"CAME SAME TIME WID SOLUDO.....JUST DAH HE WANNA OUR MONEY IN FIDELITY BANK.DIS IS PURE INJUSTICE
Re: Soludo Sues APGA Over Disqualification by komek(m): 1:10pm On Aug 23, 2013
They have succeeded in killing this man politically, if he does not succeed this time, that is the end of his political career.

I feel for u sir.
Re: Soludo Sues APGA Over Disqualification by softwareman(m): 1:34pm On Aug 23, 2013
bismarck: The problem in this country is that those who have been prepared for leadership through many years of educational trainning, international exposure and concrete achievements are senselessly schemed out from the electoral process. Else which other aspirants in APGA, PDP or even APC can match half of Soludo- a man who created real opportunities for thousand of jobless youths and hence, millions of families during his time at CBN?
As long as there is no room for independent candidature, Soludo must be allowed to contest in APGA primaries- simple! For how long should we continue to field mediocres? People come here to talk idly about party politics.. One must realize that imposition of candidates at party primaries is the reason for low voter turn-out in most elections and the hence, the rigging nonsense that has become the bane of Nigerian politics. Or how could have a cultist, Evans Bipi become an assemblyman and an old, village thief TA Orji become governor if not for such heartless impositions? Can one in all conscience deny that there aren't persons who are 1 millon X more qualified than these two, in their respective areas before and during elections?

NDI ANAMBRA MUST ENSURE THAT THE RIGHT CANDIDATES EMERGE NOT JUST IN APGA BUT IN ALL THE PARTIES!We must use party primaries to eradicate all these polliticians that have held the state down for so long with nothing concrete to point as achievements: the likes of Peter Obi, Ngige, Andy Uba, et al.

Your logic , to me , is predicated on the fallacy that the rank and file of party members vote in a political party primaries.False.
In the nigerian context, a party primary is most likely going to throw up the worst possible candidate because it is completely based on naira power or the choice of a dominant player within the party concerned.
This, to me, if you review the history of party primaries and their outcome, is the reality on ground.

How many of you soludo supporters here can affect the outcome of APGA primary against a candidate that enjoys obi / umeh support? Indeed how many of you guys here are card carrying members of the APGA?

Soludo should count himself lucky that obi and co saved him from dissipating energy and resources from contesting a primary he will surely lose without their support.

@topic:
Soludo still doesn't understand politics 101.
rank and file card carrying members, mostly controlled by the governor, decides outcome of primaries in any political party.

If obi and the power that be in APGA do not want him, he should chill or move on.


If he feels his support base extends- beyond internet political activist- to the grassroots he should try another platform.

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Re: Soludo Sues APGA Over Disqualification by Nkanuzu: 2:05pm On Aug 23, 2013
This is all about putting a round peg in a square hole. Why seek a legal solution to a political problem? Even the supreme court had advised litigants/politicians to always seek political solutions to their problems rather than judicial solution where the issues are purely political. See the case of AG Rivers State V. AG Federation! lol. Even if Soludo wins in court, it will be a mere academic exercise because the people that disqualified him hold the key to the party's structure and will ensure he looses out in the primary election for dragging the party to court.

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Re: Soludo Sues APGA Over Disqualification by softwareman(m): 2:14pm On Aug 23, 2013
Adviser.General:



Don't forget in a haste the Rotimi Amaechi vs Celestine Omehia saga. Amaechi was disqualified by PDP spearheaded by the powers that be i.e Peter Odili the incumbent then, Austin Opara Deputy Speaker, Timi Alaibe etc, he fought back by seeking redress in court. He finally won even after Omehia has been sworn in as the governor.

Soludo is on the right track. Even if he doesn't win in the primaries, atleast he should be given the opportunity to exercise his constitutional right.

please don't get it twisted. Amaechi had already won the PDP primaries before he was disqualified.

In the case of Soludo, the party defined a set of guidelines for screening those you will be fit to contest their party primary.

Soludo knowingly participated and subjected himself to the rules set by the party.

prior to engaging he was availed with the terms of the engagement[/b]t.

In full [b]awareness
of the implication, he accepted to participate

if he has problem with the guidelines and conditions set by the party why did he subject himself to it?

The same party that set the guidelines determines that soludo does not meet the conditions they set for those who can participate in their primary.

What soludo is asking the court to do is that having agreed to the terms and having participated to be screened on the basis of the terms,he now wants to contest the legality of that same guideline!

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Re: Soludo Sues APGA Over Disqualification by softwareman(m): 2:14pm On Aug 23, 2013
Adviser.General:



Don't forget in a haste the Rotimi Amaechi vs Celestine Omehia saga. Amaechi was disqualified by PDP spearheaded by the powers that be i.e Peter Odili the incumbent then, Austin Opara Deputy Speaker, Timi Alaibe etc, he fought back by seeking redress in court. He finally won even after Omehia has been sworn in as the governor.

Soludo is on the right track. Even if he doesn't win in the primaries, atleast he should be given the opportunity to exercise his constitutional right.

please don't get it twisted. Amaechi had already won the PDP primaries before he was disqualified.

In the case of Soludo, the party defined a set of guidelines for screening those you will be fit to contest their party primary.

Soludo knowingly participated and subjected himself to the rules set by the party.

prior to engaging he was availed with the terms of the engagement[/b]t.

In full [b]awareness
of the implication, he accepted to participate

if he has problem with the guidelines and conditions set by the party why did he subject himself to it?

The same party that set the guidelines determines that soludo does not meet the conditions they set for those who can participate in their primary.

What soludo is asking the court to do is that having agreed to the terms and having participated to be screened on the basis of the terms,he now wants to contest the legality of that same guideline!
Re: Soludo Sues APGA Over Disqualification by softwareman(m): 2:23pm On Aug 23, 2013
Nkanuzu: This is all about putting a round peg in a square hole. Why seek a legal solution to a political problem? Even the supreme court had advised litigants/politicians to always seek political solutions to their problems rather than judicial solution where the issues are purely political. See the case of AG Rivers State V. AG Federation! lol. Even if Soludo wins in court, it will be a mere academic exercise because the people that disqualified him hold the key to the party's structure and will ensure he looses out in the primary election for dragging the party to court.

For example:
Ararume won PDP 2007 primaries in Imo state.

PDP disqualified him. he went to court as far as the supreme court.

The supreme court re-instated his candidature.

Ararume participated in the election as PDP candidate and lost to ohakim of PPA even though PDP won(?) everywhere else in imo state
Re: Soludo Sues APGA Over Disqualification by Nobody: 2:23pm On Aug 23, 2013
We will see you guys in 2020, after anambra has been thoroughly fked by one uba or ubah
Re: Soludo Sues APGA Over Disqualification by Nobody: 2:24pm On Aug 23, 2013
software man:

please don't get it twisted. Amaechi had already won the PDP primaries before he was disqualified.

In the case of Soludo, the party defined a set of guidelines for screening those you will be fit to contest their party primary.

Soludo knowingly participated and subjected himself to the rules set by the party.

prior to engaging he was availed with the terms of the engagement[/b]t.

In full [b]awareness
of the implication, he accepted to participate

if he has problem with the guidelines and conditions set by the party why did he subject himself to it?

The same party that set the guidelines determines that soludo does not meet the conditions they set for those who can participate in their primary.

What soludo is asking the court to do is that having agreed to the terms and having participated to be screened on the basis of the terms,he now wants to contest the legality of that same guideline!



Oh come on are you not happy. If not too bad.
Soludo is asking the court to interpreted the guidelines setup for the screening as to whether he met them or not, seems its seems the Panel like to shift goal posts. Knowingly participating in something does not mean you must accept any form of subjugation brought into it, so whats your point.

Guess those routing for Ngige did not the see the court angle coming. Lets wait for victory first.
Re: Soludo Sues APGA Over Disqualification by High247(m): 2:26pm On Aug 23, 2013
Bliss4Lyfe: So Peter Obi, Umeh and GEJ want Soludo to suffer before moving to the next stage of the democratic process.

GEJ second term assurance is tied to Soludo. I wonder how corporative Anambra will be with GEJ Administration once Ngige APC becomes Gov.

Soludo is a former member of the PDP, if anything GEJ should be fully behind him not all this bruhaha!

Don't see how all dis is in the interest of the Presidency.
Nemesis has no legs but it catches up any man at it's own time.Soludo destroyed many families hopes by sacking so many staffs of CBN,cuttn their allowances of milk and other freebies to mere 1,250 while he was given 400m as start up allowances....u think God is stupid?...His predeccessor saw the blueprint of "opeartion eagle" and it's adverse effect on the masses when implement and thereby resigned instead of being the man to implement such an anti masses policy.But not soludo(mr know all)....tell me who could hv believed of his disqualification by APGA?who?.....when God steps in,evry other plan melts away...i rest my case
Re: Soludo Sues APGA Over Disqualification by agbameta: 2:33pm On Aug 23, 2013
smh @ poor soludo and people of Anambra. A whole stgate shoved aside by remote control from Abuja.


Such his life...
Re: Soludo Sues APGA Over Disqualification by softwareman(m): 2:51pm On Aug 23, 2013
KenGali:
Oh come on are you not happy. If not too bad.
Soludo is asking the court to interpreted the guidelines setup for the screening as to whether he met them or not, seems its seems the Panel like to shift goal posts. Knowingly participating in something does not mean you must accept any form of subjugation brought into it, so whats your point.

Guess those routing for Ngige did not the see the court angle coming. Lets wait for victory first.

You don't get it! Once he participated knowing those conditions and subjected himself to them, he has validated them.

he cannot later repudiate the terms of the agreement.

In any event, who becomes the candidate of APGA and the standards such person must meet is APGA's business.

As for those of 'us routing for ngige not seeing the court angle coming', you miss the point.

What we did not see coming was the disqualification of soludo by APGA!

After that we knew the damage(to soludo and APGA) is permanently done.

All that we are now seeing is soludo and his supporters( in nairaland) living in denial!
Re: Soludo Sues APGA Over Disqualification by homegirl1: 3:29pm On Aug 23, 2013
Soludo Solution has done very well and if ApGA wants to be relevant in Anambra politics they should as a metter of urgency reconcile with soludo because he is a man to beat in this election. we dont want dummies like Ngige he lacks ideals lately. so Soludo is the right candidate in this election.

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Re: Soludo Sues APGA Over Disqualification by bushwailo: 4:08pm On Aug 23, 2013
home girl: Soludo Solution has done very well and if ApGA wants to be relevant in Anambra politics they should as a metter of urgency reconcile with soludo because he is a man to beat in this election. we dont want dummies like Ngige he lacks ideals lately. so Soludo is the right candidate in this election.
Its time you gus got realistic and focus on the choices you have.
Soludo is not a politician, simple.

There are other people like Dora, Ezekwesili and Anyaoku who will still suffer the same fate if they ran because they have no political structures or leaning.
In spite of all the quality Anambra has, you must face the stark reality that ur state politics are in the hands of touts and traders.
Soludo is still relatively young man let him build his own political structures and with the influece and name he has in Abuja he can even see himself around the presidential circles one day.
But for now he needs to stop all these is short term strategies like rolling around and publicly backing Atiku against a sitting president or rolling around in the pool of mud ("Slimy Politics" - Chimamanda Adichie) which Anambra politics is.
For a former CBN governor, this is embarassing
Re: Soludo Sues APGA Over Disqualification by GlorifiedTunde(m): 4:15pm On Aug 23, 2013
Dear soludo,

I didn't want to talk before before o, sugbon i think its getting too mush! This your desperation makes me want to question your intentions; is it to serve the people or u have a selfish interest as other politicians do?

Nairalanders, it is people like this who get into power and embezzle all the funds. I'm sure u know he has been spending money since this race began years ago, that's a lot if not too much if u ask me.
It is only natural he'll want to reimburse all funds spent in his governorship race.

This is how God stylishly punish those who stole money in the office - they spend it all on ambitions that don't materialize eventually. SHIO KELEBE!
Re: Soludo Sues APGA Over Disqualification by Nobody: 6:12pm On Aug 23, 2013
software man:

You don't get it! Once he participated knowing those conditions and subjected himself to them, he has validated them.

he cannot later repudiate the terms of the agreement.

In any event, who becomes the candidate of APGA and the standards such person must meet is APGA's business.

As for those of 'us routing for ngige not seeing the court angle coming', you miss the point.

What we did not see coming was the disqualification of soludo by APGA!

After that we knew the damage(to soludo and APGA) is permanently done.

All that we are now seeing is soludo and his supporters( in nairaland) living in denial!


There is nothing to get, your argument does not add up. So if you participate in a process, and towards the end it gets manipulated, then you must accept it because you participated abi?
Read what you wrote again and see if you make sense to yourself or you are just trying to win an argument.
Re: Soludo Sues APGA Over Disqualification by Nobody: 6:15pm On Aug 23, 2013
Glorified_Tunde: Dear soludo,

I didn't want to talk before before o, sugbon i think its getting too mush! This your desperation makes me want to question your intentions; is it to serve the people or u have a selfish interest as other politicians do?

Nairalanders, it is people like this who get into power and embezzle all the funds. I'm sure u know he has been spending money since this race began years ago, that's a lot if not too much if u ask me.
It is only natural he'll want to reimburse all funds spent in his governorship race.

This is how God stylishly punish those who stole money in the office - they spend it all on ambitions that don't materialize eventually. SHIO KELEBE!

Who is this one? Are you SOLUDO's Accountant to know he has been spending money on election for the past four years?
You even know what God thinks, when and how he thinks grin grin grin
Re: Soludo Sues APGA Over Disqualification by bashydemy(m): 10:04pm On Aug 23, 2013
igala1:

One strategy Ngige/APC would adopt is to offer Soludo deputy governor slot and that is it. Finish. Click like if u understand
No need to promise him deputy Governor, But to promise him to succeed Ngige in the house of Senate Chikena
Re: Soludo Sues APGA Over Disqualification by Nobody: 10:45pm On Aug 23, 2013
igala1:

One strategy Ngige/APC would adopt is to offer Soludo deputy governor slot and that is it. Finish. Click like if u understand

the tail does not wag the dog please
Ngige cannot understand Soludo's musings cool
Re: Soludo Sues APGA Over Disqualification by Nobody: 10:48pm On Aug 23, 2013
Nkanuzu: This is all about putting a round peg in a square hole. Why seek a legal solution to a political problem? Even the supreme court had advised litigants/politicians to always seek political solutions to their problems rather than judicial solution where the issues are purely political. See the case of AG Rivers State V. AG Federation! lol. Even if Soludo wins in court, it will be a mere academic exercise because the people that disqualified him hold the key to the party's structure and will ensure he looses out in the primary election for dragging the party to court.

it is still a perfect move because everything must eventually come down to the law
there are countless political problems settled by the law courts over the years in Nigeria
peter obi became a governor because the courts intervened
he ironically forgot how he started
Re: Soludo Sues APGA Over Disqualification by Nobody: 10:50pm On Aug 23, 2013
secondly, while the case is in courts, Soludo stays in the limelight and people's memory
he may even be already shopping for a different party. lol
politics is fluid
all we care about is that he is on the ballots in Anambra polls in November
Re: Soludo Sues APGA Over Disqualification by IGBOSON1: 11:00pm On Aug 23, 2013
Glorified_Tunde: Dear soludo,

I didn't want to talk before before o, sugbon i think its getting too mush! This your desperation makes me want to question your intentions; is it to serve the people or u have a selfish interest as other politicians do?

Nairalanders, it is people like this who get into power and embezzle all the funds. I'm sure u know he has been spending money since this race began years ago, that's a lot if not too much if u ask me.
It is only natural he'll want to reimburse all funds spent in his governorship race.

This is how God stylishly punish those who stole money in the office - they spend it all on ambitions that don't materialize eventually. SHIO KELEBE!

^^^If you've got nothing to say, do shut up abeg! You may as well have adviced Abiola and numerous others that feel they've been set up and denied their God-given due by the thieving scoundrels that pass for the gov't of the day to just give up otherwise their intentions will be questioned if they doggedly keep up their fight/struggle! If you or GEJs gov't feel he stole our money why not sue him?; or you think the sneaky and devious guys orchestrating this nonsense wouldn't have jumped at such an opportunity if they had anything on him?
Re: Soludo Sues APGA Over Disqualification by IGBOSON1: 11:02pm On Aug 23, 2013
KenGali:

Who is this one? Are you SOLUDO's Accountant to know he has been spending money on election for the past four years?
You even know what God thinks, when and how he thinks grin grin grin

^^^The mofo must have God on speed-dial! wink
Re: Soludo Sues APGA Over Disqualification by DanAnyiam: 11:11pm On Aug 23, 2013
mikeansy: I totally agree with this submission

Police or EFCC can investigate anybody of anything no matter how innocent you are

Everyone must be assumed innocent until proven guilty in the court of law!

APGA can not disqualify people based of EFCC investigation.

This is unacceptable by any standard.
When are you going to learn? It seem some of you are as clueless as Soludo himself. A man of his standard going into the murky waters of Nigerian politics and expects not to be drowned? Few weeks ago, you and others like you cannot let us breath by your Soludo suffocation. How ignorant of him talking all the jargons turning Anambra into Dubai, when he haven't even first sorted his platform first? Few ago APGA was your bread and butter, this week they will be your satan. I laugh
Re: Soludo Sues APGA Over Disqualification by DanAnyiam: 11:22pm On Aug 23, 2013
FreeGlobe: while am in support of Soludo's action, I'm afraid of what will happen in the APGA primaries even when he wins the court case. He should head to another party in time. Peter Obi should be shamed of himself
One day, people will eat their own word about all they said regarding Rochas. Obi is not a nice person, I am sure he is even afraid that, if this guy happens to be governor, he may make his own 8 years in power ridiculous, hence he conspires with his foot soldiers to humiliate him. It was the same personal envy he had against Rochas, but Rochas was far smarter than him. People like Peter Obi, only love mediocrity around them when they looks intelligent. He has already seen Soludo as threat, the same way he saw Rochas.

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Re: Soludo Sues APGA Over Disqualification by DanAnyiam: 11:26pm On Aug 23, 2013
igala1: It is NGIGE/SOLUTION 2014 Anambra brass up for Ngige as governor and Soludo as deputy
What are you smoking, Soludo to be an irrelevant deputy governor? What does a deputy governor do?
Re: Soludo Sues APGA Over Disqualification by DanAnyiam: 11:30pm On Aug 23, 2013
0nlytruth:

And who told you that he did not secure any serious commitment from Obi?
The problem with you Nigerians is that you tend to forget too quickly key information pertaining a person.
Soludo is not a political neophyte. He has been into politics right from student union days at the UNN in 1984. He has always been a poltical animal. He is ALSO A FIRST CLASS BRAIN. Combine those two qualities and what you have is a potential political legend.
That people like him are not running Nigeria is a testament to the country's inate self destructive tendencies.

.
Does this make any sense if a political no talent like Obi could messed him up this way?

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