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Re: Federal Health Workers Embark On Strike by Nobody: 8:08pm On Aug 24, 2013 |
joshuapharm:counsel the patient? u should hv CORRECTED the person who prescribed. deliverately avoided the main point CLINICAL DIAGNOSIS |
Re: Federal Health Workers Embark On Strike by Nobody: 8:11pm On Aug 24, 2013 |
Osahon7: Why all this professional tussle? This is the reason why Nigeria wont go forward, everybodi tinks he/she is the head..For d sake of our patients lets just agree to the fact dat we are all one..weda NMA,MLSCN,PCN etc...Imagine the former CMD of LUTH sayin in 2003 dat a patients belong only to the doctor..dats not right..pls we are all one!!we r a TEAM for which there MUST be a leader. u will hv ANARCHY if u say we r ALL nd everybody is a leader |
Re: Federal Health Workers Embark On Strike by Nobody: 8:16pm On Aug 24, 2013 |
Osahon7: Though am in NMA and MDCN camp bt i belive dose bodies a hell of selfish bodies..it was wen i gained adm into medical skool dat i discovered..in d prospectus, for a graduate of Anatomy,physiologyand BCH who wishes to get a MBBS/BDS, dey hav to start frm yr2 wich is anat, physio and BCH class..my question is why cant dose ana,physio and Bch grad start frm the clinical class since dey are already masters of d basic medical courses??i had a classmate a graduate of anatomy who had to withdraw frm medical school for failure to pass anatomy. to attempt ur questn, it is the way the teaching nd exams r structured that is the problem, in medical school u hv so many different forms of exams sometimes involving EXTERNAL EXAMINERS whc is not done in BSc training 1 Like |
Re: Federal Health Workers Embark On Strike by joshuapharm(m): 8:17pm On Aug 24, 2013 |
joker5180: counsel the patient? u should hv CORRECTED the person who prescribed. deliverately avoided the main point CLINICAL DIAGNOSIS Well, if I were in an hospital setting I wud av done so. I was in community pharmacy and always av loads of patients to attend to. |
Re: Federal Health Workers Embark On Strike by Nobody: 8:20pm On Aug 24, 2013 |
Dnaz:am cleared!!!.now i undastand...Dr pls end dis tussle...@pharmacist, Nurses and MLS in the house,fine u all can prescribe.A MLS make diagnosis wit tests and Pharmacist prescribe the drugs..leave the docs to do the blades work..If dere can be discriminations among surgeons and physicians all in the same NMA,am not surprise seein all dese pharmacist,nurses,mls VS doctors. |
Re: Federal Health Workers Embark On Strike by Nobody: 8:21pm On Aug 24, 2013 |
bumfem: @Dmaz... u can now see that u are a neonate when it come to discussing the issues without insulting others. U have no idea of current trend globally. Best practices in the developed nations today is collaborative health care approach not egocentric that leads patients and the system no where. There are nursing practitioners in US who are found more at the community levels, the assess and dx and prescribes medication. They are been found at that level to be better than many physicians. Govt of ontario in Canada now clears physiotherapist to co-examine patient at outpatient clinics bc they are better detectors of musculoskeletal disorders...loads of research support this. Pharmacist now to review and adjust accordingl the effect of various medications in patients in the ward because they are far better than physicians at it. I can go on an on... In UK in Aussie and new zealand. There are highly developed countries who we are looking up to. Their policy and program is about what works and not on ego and fallacy.ALL the examples u cited were based on documented evidence which we do not hv in nigerian and remember the issue at stake is NOT about PATIENT CARE it is rather about LEADERSHIP in health sector |
Re: Federal Health Workers Embark On Strike by joshuapharm(m): 8:21pm On Aug 24, 2013 |
joker5180: we r a TEAM for which there MUST be a leader. u will hv ANARCHY if u say we r ALL nd everybody is a leader It depends on the setting. Anybody shud be able to rise up to the rank of a cmd. By anybody, I mean anybody qualified, in this same health profession. It shudnt be d birthright of doctors. |
Re: Federal Health Workers Embark On Strike by joshuapharm(m): 8:23pm On Aug 24, 2013 |
joker5180: a pharmacist may knw the drug inside out but he can not make a CLINICAL DIAGNOSIS. Now no one is saying a pharmacist can make clinical diagnosis.. That's for the doctors and whatever pathologists or med lab scientists. But the pharmacists input begins when the diagnosis is made. |
Re: Federal Health Workers Embark On Strike by joshuapharm(m): 8:25pm On Aug 24, 2013 |
Dnaz: This is what I'm talking about. Can u just drive home ur point and stop the attacks? This is a sign of weakness.. I'm starting to feels ethics isn't taught in our med skuls.. |
Re: Federal Health Workers Embark On Strike by Nobody: 8:30pm On Aug 24, 2013 |
joshuapharm:nobody denied u that infact i knw of a clinical pharmacologist who join ward rounds and make put on cases that needs dose adjustment, certain combinations etc |
Re: Federal Health Workers Embark On Strike by joshuapharm(m): 8:35pm On Aug 24, 2013 |
Dnaz: There av been cases where doctors become confused due to the complexity of some illnesses. Theyve had to seek for pharmacists. Questions like 'pls mr pharm, what other drug can I prescribe for this patient? How else do you think we can manage this condition?' My point is it shudnt get to that stage before u involve a Rxcist in ur prescription. We surely can't start prescribing and do away with doctors, no.. That'll be wrong.. It shud be based on cooperation and cordial interaction btw this two. But no! Our docs don't wanna see Rxcist's at all.. Smh 1 Like |
Re: Federal Health Workers Embark On Strike by onagoodday1: 8:40pm On Aug 24, 2013 |
joker5180: a pharmacist may knw the drug inside out but he can not make a CLINICAL DIAGNOSIS.DOCTors are expert in diagnosis,nobody is contesting that,but not an expert in drug when there is a pharmacist in the house. 1 Like |
Re: Federal Health Workers Embark On Strike by joshuapharm(m): 8:43pm On Aug 24, 2013 |
Osahon7: I understand u're a mature person here... It's a general Nigerian problem.. Pharmacists also av their problems, it myt no just be obvious. But the assumed lordship of our doctors is unbecoming. I don't see why a doc shud be NAFDAC DG. What does he know about drug analysis? What does he know about drug regulation and registration? Except that there are competent pharmacists there taking care of all that. Onyebuchi has to go!!! 1 Like |
Re: Federal Health Workers Embark On Strike by onagoodday1: 8:45pm On Aug 24, 2013 |
joshuapharm: 10,000000 likes!!!!! 1 Like |
Re: Federal Health Workers Embark On Strike by onagoodday1: 8:48pm On Aug 24, 2013 |
joshuapharm:gbammm!!!! 1 Like |
Re: Federal Health Workers Embark On Strike by Dnaz(m): 8:49pm On Aug 24, 2013 |
Osahon7: Mr man u r not a doctor not less a med student. If nurses start prescribing deb Traditional birth attendants ll also start prescribing, Community Health extension workers ll also start prescribing. FYI dere is no Rift b/w surgeons and Physicians except d ones u made up in ur head. Maybe u dnt even knw d difference b/w d two |
Re: Federal Health Workers Embark On Strike by Dnaz(m): 8:52pm On Aug 24, 2013 |
joshuapharm: The man dey kamkpe |
Re: Federal Health Workers Embark On Strike by Nobody: 8:57pm On Aug 24, 2013 |
Basic components of CLINICAL PHARMACIST practice 1. Prescribing drugs 2. Administering drugs 3. Documenting professional services 4. Reviewing drug use 5. Communication 6. Counseling 7. Consulting 8. Preventing Medication Errors Scope of clinical pharmacy: Drug Information Drug Utilization Drug Evaluation and Selection Medication Therapy Management Formal Education and Training Programs Disease State Management |
Re: Federal Health Workers Embark On Strike by Nobody: 9:00pm On Aug 24, 2013 |
Dnaz:why do u tink dey r planing on makin the position of the Minister for health to be addressed as CHIEF SURGEON GENERAL?? |
Re: Federal Health Workers Embark On Strike by joshuapharm(m): 9:05pm On Aug 24, 2013 |
Osahon7: Basic components of CLINICAL PHARMACIST practice Sadly Nigerian doctors hate to see or hear what u just posted. Well, we are going to develop as a country, and the state of pharmacy practice has to also develop like it is in other countries. It is gonna dawn on them anyways. |
Re: Federal Health Workers Embark On Strike by onagoodday1: 9:09pm On Aug 24, 2013 |
Osahon7:Why do you waste your mb on that Dnaz that reasons like a pry six graduate,we are discussing serious issues here and she was talking about jamb and waec,she rarely reads through a comment before pouncing on the poster,do not dignify her by replying her comments, when we want to discuss jamb and waec,we will invite her 1 Like |
Re: Federal Health Workers Embark On Strike by Nobody: 9:20pm On Aug 24, 2013 |
on a good day:is dnaz a lady?? No wonder!! I reserve my comments.. |
Re: Federal Health Workers Embark On Strike by Nobody: 9:30pm On Aug 24, 2013 |
joshuapharm:so all this noice is abt Onyebuchi? my advice is get a pharmacist to run for president in 2015 nd if he wins then he can appoint 40 or more pharmacists as his ministers |
Re: Federal Health Workers Embark On Strike by joshuapharm(m): 9:47pm On Aug 24, 2013 |
joker5180: nobody denied u that infact i knw of a clinical pharmacologist who join ward rounds and make put on cases that needs dose adjustment, certain combinations etcClinical pharmacist u mean? joker5180: so all this noice is abt Onyebuchi? my advice is get a pharmacist to run for president in 2015 nd if he wins then he can appoint 40 or more pharmacists as his ministers This is a serious problem we have to contend with. I know of all the serious politics u doctors play.. Only God can judge. We don't need a pharmacist as president or even health minister before we do what shud be done. Onyebuchi that defied court order, what manner of mannerlessnessa?? |
Re: Federal Health Workers Embark On Strike by onagoodday1: 9:48pm On Aug 24, 2013 |
joker5180: so all this noice is abt Onyebuchi? my advice is get a pharmacist to run for president in 2015 nd if he wins then he can appoint 40 or more pharmacists as his ministers
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Re: Federal Health Workers Embark On Strike by Dnaz(m): 9:55pm On Aug 24, 2013 |
Osahon7: Basic components of CLINICAL PHARMACIST practice How can u prescribe wen u dnt knw wats wrong with the pt. May a pharmacist administer intrathecal triamcinolone to u wen u eventually cme down with osteoarthritis of d lumbosacral spine, may a pharmacist administer intravenous aminophylline to ur child wen he develops breathlessness and Iv hydralazine to ur wife. Wen she has pre eclampsia |
Re: Federal Health Workers Embark On Strike by Dnaz(m): 10:00pm On Aug 24, 2013 |
on a good day: Yeah I m beauty and brains. Tongue out |
Re: Federal Health Workers Embark On Strike by joshuapharm(m): 10:02pm On Aug 24, 2013 |
Dnaz: Did you attend primary school at all? Go through my posts on this thread and u'll understand better. Go to bed plssss. |
Re: Federal Health Workers Embark On Strike by joshuapharm(m): 10:04pm On Aug 24, 2013 |
Dnaz: You are English too.. |
Re: Federal Health Workers Embark On Strike by blackbeau1(f): 10:04pm On Aug 24, 2013 |
Symphony007: Some of the comments here dumping on the health workers is really making me mad. These people save lives, they work in under equiped hospitals with so much work load. At the end they are not taken care of. But our beloved government officials who do next to nothing earn millions, plus allowances, official cars,etc....does that sound fair to you? Some nigerians are becoming complacent to their government's idiocy.Abeg,make we hear word.I serve in a hospital and my mum is a nurse so all my life,I've had the misfortune of being ard hospitals. Let me let u in on a secret. Most of the workers there are lazy and don't care about the patient.that's why people advise that if you have an emergency,you should go to a private hospital or else,trust me,you will die. In my dept for instance,cancer patients are given two weeks before they get their results and most of them don't get the results even after a week. Oh! And by the way,they are paid extremely well. |
Re: Federal Health Workers Embark On Strike by Dnaz(m): 10:10pm On Aug 24, 2013 |
joshuapharm: Oh yeah I also graduated with a distinction in my FSLC, not pass level like u, den I scored 546 in my NBEM and proceeded to a Federal Govt college |
Re: Federal Health Workers Embark On Strike by Dnaz(m): 10:15pm On Aug 24, 2013 |
Osahon7: is dnaz a lady?? No wonder!! I reserve my comments.. Dnt u wish ur girlfriend was hot like ♏E, Dnt u wish ur girlfriend was a doctor like ♏E Don't u even wish u were a doctor like ♏E Don't yaaaa! Don't yaaaa? |
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