joshuapharm:

Diagonis is a problem, prescription is also a problem. I've seen too many cases of wrong prescription and had to counsel the patient all over again. Until we begin to co-operate, we'll keep avin problems and all these fall bck on the patients.

Osahon7: Why all this professional tussle? This is the reason why Nigeria wont go forward, everybodi tinks he/she is the head..For d sake of our patients lets just agree to the fact dat we are all one..weda NMA,MLSCN,PCN etc...Imagine the former CMD of LUTH sayin in 2003 dat a patients belong only to the doctor..dats not right..pls we are all one!!

Osahon7: Though am in NMA and MDCN camp bt i belive dose bodies a hell of selfish bodies..it was wen i gained adm into medical skool dat i discovered..in d prospectus, for a graduate of Anatomy,physiologyand BCH who wishes to get a MBBS/BDS, dey hav to start frm yr2 wich is anat, physio and BCH class..my question is why cant dose ana,physio and Bch grad start frm the clinical class since dey are already masters of d basic medical courses??

joker5180: counsel the patient? u should hv CORRECTED the person who prescribed. deliverately avoided the main point CLINICAL DIAGNOSIS

Dnaz:

My dear let ♏E explain it to u. Granted a person has a Bsc in anatomy, he lacks d required standard in physiology and human biochemistry, if he has physio, he has not passed anat and bch, if he has bch, he has not passed anat and physio. And for u to start clinicals he must pass all three. So u see why he has to start from 2nd year. I hope somebody ll not come out and tell ♏E dat an anatomy graduate knws more anatomy dan a doctor before hippocrates ll rise from d grave to slap d crap out of him/her

bumfem: @Dmaz... u can now see that u are a neonate when it come to discussing the issues without insulting others. U have no idea of current trend globally. Best practices in the developed nations today is collaborative health care approach not egocentric that leads patients and the system no where. There are nursing practitioners in US who are found more at the community levels, the assess and dx and prescribes medication. They are been found at that level to be better than many physicians. Govt of ontario in Canada now clears physiotherapist to co-examine patient at outpatient clinics bc they are better detectors of musculoskeletal disorders...loads of research support this. Pharmacist now to review and adjust accordingl the effect of various medications in patients in the ward because they are far better than physicians at it. I can go on an on... In UK in Aussie and new zealand. There are highly developed countries who we are looking up to. Their policy and program is about what works and not on ego and fallacy.
I don't see this nation coming out our situation until we embraced truth and justice.

joker5180: we r a TEAM for which there MUST be a leader. u will hv ANARCHY if u say we r ALL nd everybody is a leader

joker5180: a pharmacist may knw the drug inside out but he can not make a CLINICAL DIAGNOSIS.

Dnaz:

The problem is dat u need googles, I think u have Myopia, any symptom of headache, itchy eyes or tearing, has anybody in ur family lineage worn googles. If so I m referring u to an optometrist. Even though I knw what u need but make d optometrist chop food abeg

joshuapharm:

Now no one is saying a pharmacist can make clinical diagnosis.. That's for the doctors and whatever pathologists or med lab scientists. But the pharmacists input begins when the diagnosis is made.

Dnaz:


Its not necessary its d doctor dat knows what's best for the patient. If anytin happens we ll accept d responsibility. I tell u most solemnly a pharmacist does not knw how to prescribe so he shuldnt. Prescription is not d same for every patient

joker5180: a pharmacist may knw the drug inside out but he can not make a CLINICAL DIAGNOSIS.

Osahon7:
am cleared!!!.now i undastand...Dr pls end dis tussle...@pharmacist, Nurses and MLS in the house,fine u all can prescribe.A MLS make diagnosis wit tests and Pharmacist prescribe the drugs..leave the docs to do the blades work..If dere can be discriminations among surgeons and physicians all in the same NMA,am not surprise seein all dese pharmacist,nurses,mls VS doctors.

joshuapharm:

Now no one is saying a pharmacist can make clinical diagnosis.. That's for the doctors and whatever pathologists or med lab scientists. But the pharmacists input begins when the diagnosis is made.

joshuapharm:

I understand u're a mature person here... It's a general Nigerian problem.. Pharmacists also av their problems, it myt no just be obvious. But the assumed lordship of our doctors is unbecoming. I don't see why a doc shud be NAFDAC DG. What does he know about drug analysis? What does he know about drug regulation and registration? Except that there are competent pharmacists there taking care of all that. Onyebuchi has to go!!!

Osahon7:
am cleared!!!.now i undastand...Dr pls end dis tussle...@pharmacist, Nurses and MLS in the house,fine u all can prescribe.A MLS make diagnosis wit tests and Pharmacist prescribe the drugs..leave the docs to do the blades work..If dere can be discriminations among surgeons and physicians all in the same NMA,am not surprise seein all dese pharmacist,nurses,mls VS doctors.

joshuapharm:

I understand u're a mature person here... It's a general Nigerian problem.. Pharmacists also av their problems, it myt no just be obvious. But the assumed lordship of our doctors is unbecoming. I don't see why a doc shud be NAFDAC DG. What does he know about drug analysis? What does he know about drug regulation and registration? Except that there are competent pharmacists there taking care of all that. Onyebuchi has to go!!!

Dnaz:

Mr man u r not a doctor not less a med student. If nurses start prescribing deb Traditional birth attendants ll also start prescribing, Community Health extension workers ll also start prescribing. FYI dere is no Rift b/w surgeons and Physicians except d ones u made up in ur head. Maybe u dnt even knw d difference b/w d two

Osahon7: Basic components of CLINICAL PHARMACIST practice
1. Prescribing drugs
2. Administering drugs
3. Documenting professional services
4. Reviewing drug use
5. Communication
6. Counseling
7. Consulting
8. Preventing Medication Errors Scope of clinical pharmacy: Drug Information Drug Utilization Drug Evaluation and Selection Medication Therapy Management Formal Education and Training Programs Disease State Management

Osahon7:
why do u tink dey r planing on makin the position of the Minister for health to be addressed as CHIEF SURGEON GENERAL??

on a good day:

Why do you waste your mb on that Dnaz that reasons like a pry six graduate,we are discussing serious issues here and she was talking about jamb and waec,she rarely reads through a comment before pouncing on the poster,do not dignify her by replying her comments, when we want to discuss jamb and waec,we will invite her

joshuapharm:

I understand u're a mature person here... It's a general Nigerian problem.. Pharmacists also av their problems, it myt no just be obvious. But the assumed lordship of our doctors is unbecoming. I don't see why a doc shud be NAFDAC DG. What does he know about drug analysis? What does he know about drug regulation and registration? Except that there are competent pharmacists there taking care of all that. Onyebuchi has to go!!!

joker5180: nobody denied u that infact i knw of a clinical pharmacologist who join ward rounds and make put on cases that needs dose adjustment, certain combinations etc

joker5180: so all this noice is abt Onyebuchi? my advice is get a pharmacist to run for president in 2015 nd if he wins then he can appoint 40 or more pharmacists as his ministers

joker5180: so all this noice is abt Onyebuchi? my advice is get a pharmacist to run for president in 2015 nd if he wins then he can appoint 40 or more pharmacists as his ministers

Osahon7: Basic components of CLINICAL PHARMACIST practice
1. Prescribing drugs
2. Administering drugs
3. Documenting professional services
4. Reviewing drug use
5. Communication
6. Counseling
7. Consulting
8. Preventing Medication Errors Scope of clinical pharmacy: Drug Information Drug Utilization Drug Evaluation and Selection Medication Therapy Management Formal Education and Training Programs Disease State Management

on a good day:

Why do you waste your mb on that Dnaz that reasons like a pry six graduate,we are discussing serious issues here and she was talking about jamb and waec,she rarely reads through a comment before pouncing on the poster,do not dignify her by replying her comments, when we want to discuss jamb and waec,we will invite her

Dnaz:


How can u prescribe wen u dnt knw wats wrong with the pt. May a pharmacist administer intrathecal triamcinolone to u wen u eventually cme down with osteoarthritis of d lumbosacral spine, may a pharmacist administer intravenous aminophylline to ur child wen he develops breathlessness and Iv hydralazine to ur wife. Wen she has pre eclampsia

Dnaz:

Yeah I m beauty and brains. Tongue out

Symphony007: Some of the comments here dumping on the health workers is really making me mad. These people save lives, they work in under equiped hospitals with so much work load. At the end they are not taken care of. But our beloved government officials who do next to nothing earn millions, plus allowances, official cars,etc....does that sound fair to you? Some nigerians are becoming complacent to their government's idiocy.

joshuapharm:

Did you attend primary school at all? Go through my posts on this thread and u'll understand better. Go to bed plssss.

Osahon7: is dnaz a lady?? No wonder!! I reserve my comments..