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Re: Russia Warns America Over Interference In Syria by Zane2point4(m): 7:30am On Aug 27, 2013
LBT: Do you know that when israel attacked syria, russia retaliated and shot down israel f16 and destroyed 2 gun boats which took part in the attack on syria and also hit accurately an american missile supplied to israel which was stored in a warehouse in israel? Some media posted it but removed the post in less than 4 hours of posting it. The Americans known what the russians are capable of; that's why they have not invaded syria but waiting for a fall out between assad and russian which will be a green light.

You are obviously the biggest liar of the century,when did this happened,pls gv us source,or did it ever appear in news headline,russia can never attack israel,infact that was the 3rd time israel is hitting on targets inside syria,that was even why russia was afraid to deliver the s-300 missiles promised to syria.
Re: Russia Warns America Over Interference In Syria by Demdem(m): 7:37am On Aug 27, 2013
LBT: [s]Do you know that when israel attacked syria, russia retaliated and shot down israel f16 and destroyed 2 gun boats which took part in the attack on syria and also hit accurately an american missile supplied to israel which was stored in a warehouse in israel? Some media posted it but removed the post in less than 4 hours of posting it. The Americans known what the russians are capable of; that's why they have not invaded syria but waiting for a fall out between assad and russian which will be a green light. [/s]

crap.

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Re: Russia Warns America Over Interference In Syria by Penboy: 7:58am On Aug 27, 2013
The bible prophesied that the 'Anglo - American world power would be the last till God's kingdom comes on earth. Just like the foot of 'clay and iron' which king Nebuchadnezzar saw in his dream, this world power would prove to be powerful. So, USA can go all the way barring the coming of the KINGDOM.
Re: Russia Warns America Over Interference In Syria by vedaxcool(m): 8:33am On Aug 27, 2013
Demdem:

This has been envisaged a long time ago and that explains why they depend less on foreign oil now than before. They are also looking inward. Are u even aware that one of the sanctions against Iran is not buying its oil. As at today, US don't use irans oil, EU has placed an embargo on it. Saudi is there so soak up the shortages. Iraq is coming up gradually and remains an ally of US. Unfortunately these murrafuckers have got all these covered.

You don't still get how this things work, they are a number of action Iran could take that would disrupt oil, blocking the straits of homuz, attacking Saudi oil infrastructure, raising all sort of militia that could perpetually attack western interest in a number of places, in fact attacking Iran is easy, dealing with the long term consequence would prove draining! Even Iraq was under oil embergo but still at the end, the prices of oil reached as high as $139 per barrel, Iran even has considerable influence in Iraq, truly dude you do understand what a globalised world means, that will be what would drive the instability in the oil market. You could read more http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2012/feb/06/iran-oil-exports-destination
Re: Russia Warns America Over Interference In Syria by telexfree1: 8:34am On Aug 27, 2013
1300 dead in syrian gas attack.

Re: Russia Warns America Over Interference In Syria by telexfree1: 8:34am On Aug 27, 2013
More

Re: Russia Warns America Over Interference In Syria by telexfree1: 8:37am On Aug 27, 2013
Including countless animals and birds

Re: Russia Warns America Over Interference In Syria by fr3do(m): 8:49am On Aug 27, 2013
So Nigerians can analyze this far?

Re: Russia Warns America Over Interference In Syria by InvertedHammer: 9:20am On Aug 27, 2013
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Russia is just fuming unnecessarily.

If my boys decide to go in, Russia ain't gonna do squat.

They are lucky that it is not the Republicans in power. They would have mowed down Assad while giving Russia the middle finger that they rightly deserve.

I can't wait for Republicans to come back. Enough of this "small boys" provocation already!


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Re: Russia Warns America Over Interference In Syria by Demdem(m): 9:29am On Aug 27, 2013
vedaxcool:

You don't still get how this things work, they are a number of action Iran could take that would disrupt oil, blocking the straits of homuz, attacking Saudi oil infrastructure, raising all sort of militia that could perpetually attack western interest in a number of places, in fact attacking Iran is easy, dealing with the long term consequence would prove draining! Even Iraq was under oil embergo but still at the end, the prices of oil reached as high as $139 per barrel, Iran even has considerable influence in Iraq, truly dude you do understand what a globalised world means, that will be what would drive the instability in the oil market. You could read more http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2012/feb/06/iran-oil-exports-destination

Understand my position dude. There is nothing Iran can throw at them that they won't be able to soak up in the long run. That is the message am passing across to u. Even Iran is concious of its existence and there are some actions they will never take like attacking Saudi directly.
All these scenarios have been well played and solutions fashioned out.
What I don't know yet is if its the same for Iran. So far, its the west throwing sublime punches at Iran which is surely affecting their economy greatly, what has Iran thrown back? Abegi leave tori.

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Re: Russia Warns America Over Interference In Syria by bejay1(m): 9:47am On Aug 27, 2013
malele:
And u think the world will be safer without america.
Why not
Re: Russia Warns America Over Interference In Syria by Shehucom(m): 9:49am On Aug 27, 2013
seanet02: MOSCOW: Military action against the Syrian regime would be a "tragic mistake", Russia said on Sunday, warning the West not to pre-empt the results of a UN probe into alleged deadly chemical attacks.

Moscow warned there was a danger of history repeating itself a decade after the US-led invasion of Iraq, which it opposed, and urged the United States to refrain from any reckless decision.

"We strongly urge those who, by attempting to impose their own results on the UN experts, are raising the possibility of a military operation in Syria to use their common sense and refrain from committing a tragic mistake," foreign ministry spokesman Alexander Lukashevich said in a statement.

"All this is reminiscent of events from a decade ago, when the United States bypassed the UN and used fallacious information on the presence in Iraq of weapons of mass destruction to launch an adventure, the consequences of which are known to all," he said.

The United States and Britain led the military invasion of Iraq that toppled long-time dictator Saddam Hussein in 2003.

A UN mission had failed to find any of the weapons of mass destructions Saddam was suspected of possessing but the Iraqi strongman was known to have repeatedly used chemical weapons.

The United Nations said on Sunday its inspectors in Syria could begin work as early as Monday, after Damascus agreed to the probe Sunday during a visit by top UN official Angela Kane.

Doctors Without Borders has said 355 people died last week of "neurotoxic" symptoms, after the opposition claimed regime forces unleashed chemicals east and southwest of Damascus last Wednesday causing more than 1,300 deaths.

The regime has denied the charges and in turn accused the rebels of using chemical arms.

Russia took credit for the deal allowing the UN inspectors to begin their work, saying it was the result of "relentless efforts" by Moscow with the Syrian regime.

"We are satisfied with the Syrian leadership's constructive approach towards ensuring an effective cooperation with the UN mission," the spokesman said.

Washington, which has said that evidence President Bashar al-Assad's regime used chemical weapons would cross a red line and warrant tougher action, said the Syrian offer was "too late to be credible".

Officials said US President Barack Obama, who held crisis talks on Saturday with top aides, would make an "informed decision" about how to respond to an "indiscriminate" chemical weapons attack.

One official told AFP that based on the reported number of victims and their symptoms, and US and foreign intelligence, "there is very little doubt at this point that a chemical weapon was used by the Syrian regime against civilians in this incident."

Russia -- which together with Iran and China has supported Assad throughout the 29-month-old Syrian crisis -- urged the rebel camp to guarantee the safety of the UN team lead by professor Aake Sellstroem.

"It is important that the armed opposition controlling part of Eastern Ghouta ensure that the UN mission is able to operate safely and refrain from the kind of armed provocation witnessed against UN observers last summer," Lukashevich said.

Opposition le
aders already said on Friday that UN inspectors would have "unfettered" access to areas under rebel control such as Eastern Ghouta on the outskirts of Damascus to investigate the use of chemical weapons.

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/world/moscow-warns-us-against/790122.html?
UK and US always at d centre of such brouhahas.. Expect them soon in Nigeria
Re: Russia Warns America Over Interference In Syria by vivaciousvivi(f): 9:54am On Aug 27, 2013
The UN Weapons detectors or whatever are going to investigate the probability that such weapons were used correct? But I thought the International community has gone beyond that fact. Even Al-Assad has more or less conceded that chemical weapons were deployed. Who would try to investigate exactly who deployed such weapons? Assad"s govt or the opposition or even an entirely external "government" (who may do it just to get the US involved for reasons of their own).
Re: Russia Warns America Over Interference In Syria by LordBabs(m): 9:55am On Aug 27, 2013
REALITY101:
Ok if that make your miserable life better!
oya, efira yin sile, efira yin sile, efira yin sile!

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Re: Russia Warns America Over Interference In Syria by trendytrendz: 11:28am On Aug 27, 2013
Confusionist: dude, are u confused?

Did u think America is the defender of the universe?

Dude, america is the cause of many crisis in the world today!!!
wow..didn't know america trained terrorist to be bombing and maiming people around the world...wiithout america, the world would crumble
Re: Russia Warns America Over Interference In Syria by OutThere: 12:44pm On Aug 27, 2013
NaWetinNa: This is for Demdem, airfinance, Owobo Brown, Broken TV, malele, REALITY 101, Freiburger, sanniemoe, A-ZeD,

CFCfan, Mee234

Some atrocities committed by the American govt. JUST A LIL' SOME:

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/10/28/world/meast/guantanamo-guard/(Prisoner abuse at Guantanamo bay)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_of_the_americas (Terror training by US govt to South American
govts)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luis_Posada_Carriles (hypocrisy of US, harboring of terrorists, and
subversion of govts using these terrorists)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran-Contra_affair

http://consortiumnews.com/2011/12/01/the-lost-opportunity-of-iran-contra/(subversion of Nicaraguan
govt, support of rebels with drug links)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bay_of_Pigs_invasion (attempt to overthrow Cuban govt)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Condor (campaign of political repression involving
assassination and intelligence operations officially implemented in 1975 by the right-wing dictatorships of
the Southern Cone of South America. It is estimated that a minimum of 60,000 deaths can be attributed to
Condor,[2] possibly more.[3][4][5] Condor's key members were the governments in Argentina, Chile, Uruguay,
Paraguay, Bolivia and Brazil. The United States provided support, with Ecuador and Peru joining later in more
peripheral roles)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Army_and_CIA_interrogation_manuals (CIA torture manuals: The
likes of General Pinochet learnt from the best)

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat[/url] The 1953 Iranian coup d'état (known in
Iran as the 28 Mordad coup[3]) was the overthrow of the democratically-elected government of
Iranian Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh on 19 August 1953, orchestrated by the intelligence agencies of the
United Kingdom and the United States under the name TPAJAX Project.[4] The coup saw the transition of
Mohammad-Rezā Shāh Pahlavi from a constitutional monarch to an authoritarian one who relied heavily on United
States support to hold on to power until his own overthrow in February 1979.[5]


[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1954_Guatemalan_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat[/url] 1954 Guatemalan coup d'état
(overthrow of Jacobo Árbenz Guzmán, the democratically-elected President of Guatemala)

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaime_Rold%C3%B3s_Aguilera[/url] (Assassination of Presdident of Ecuador in
1981)

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omar_Torrijos [/url](Assassination of President of Pananma in 1981)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fulgencio_Batista (Support of a brutal dictator that protected
American interests. At the beginning of 1959 United States companies owned about 40 percent of the Cuban sugar
lands – almost all the cattle ranches – 90 percent of the mines and mineral concessions – 80 percent of the
utilities –practically all the oil industry – and supplied two-thirds of Cuba's imports.

Fulgencio Batista murdered 20,000 Cubans in seven years ... and he turned Democratic Cuba into a complete
police state – destroying every individual liberty. Yet our aid to his regime, and the ineptness of our
policies, enabled Batista to invoke the name of the United States in support of his reign of terror.
Administration spokesmen publicly praised Batista – hailed him as a staunch ally and a good friend – at a
time when Batista was murdering destroying the last vestiges of freedom, and stealing hundreds of millions of
dollars from the Cuban people, and we failed to press for free elections.
John F. Kennedy)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_syphilis_experiment The Tuskeegee Syphilis experiment conducted
between 1932 and 1972 in Tuskegee, Alabama by the U.S. Public Health Service to study the natural progression
of untreated syphilis in poor, rural black men who thought they were receiving free health care from the U.S.
government??For participating in the study, the men were given free medical care, meals, and free burial
insurance. They were never told they had syphilis, nor were they ever treated for it. According to the Centers
for Disease Control, the men were told they were being treated for "bad blood", a local term for various
illnesses that include syphilis, anemia, and fatigue.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_Orange
[url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2401378/Agent-Orange-Vietnamese-children-suffering-effects-
herbicide-sprayed-US-Army-40-years-ago.html[/url]
Agent Orange:one of the herbicides and defoliants used by the U.S. military as part of its chemical warfare
program, Operation Ranch Hand, during the Vietnam War from 1961 to 1971. Vietnam estimates 400,000 people were
killed or maimed, and 500,000 children born with birth defects as a result of its use.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guatemala_syphilis_experimentThe syphilis experiments in Guatemala were
United States-led human experiments conducted in Guatemala from 1946 to 1948, during the administration of
President Truman and President Juan José Arévalo with the cooperation of some Guatemalan health ministries and
officials.[1] Doctors infected soldiers, prostitutes, prisoners and mental patients with syphilis and other
sexually transmitted diseases, without the informed consent of the subjects, and treated most subjects with
antibiotics.



[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Venezuelan_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat_attempt[/url] (The United States and
Spain quickly acknowledged the de facto pro-US Carmona government, but ended up condemning the coup after it
had been defeated
Rear Admiral Carlos Molina, a central leader of the coup, later said that "We felt we were acting with US
support . . . we agree that we can’t permit a communist government here. The US has not let us down yet."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2002/apr/21/usa.venezuela)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drone_attacks_in_Pakistan The American government cant even apologize
for killing Pakistani soldiers.

By the way, in case you didn't know, America sold the first nuclear reactor to Iran: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_program_of_Iran but as long as you do not kowtow to their interests, you become a pariah, rogue state!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Lai_Massacre (Massacre of unarmed civilians -including women and
children by the Americans during the Vietnam war)

[url]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/5395830/Abu-Ghraib-abuse-photos-show-
rape.html[/url] (Abu Ghraib prison prisoner abuse)

The Iran/Saudi Ambassador Plot: (By the way, you heard anything about this lately? Nah, I didn't think
so!!)
http://consortiumnews.com/2011/11/05/dissecting-the-iran-terror-plot/
http://landdestroyer..com/2011/10/iran-links-us-funded-terrorists-to.html



Thank you o jare!

AND ABOUT THIS CHEMICAL ATTACK PURPORTEDLY CARRIED OUT BY THE ASSAD GOVERNMENT:

1.Why did the attack coincide with the arrival of U.N. weapons inspectors and no rebels were killed?
You would think if Assad's forces was using it, they would aim to kill rebels - first and foremost and
civilian would be collateral damage.


2. Furthermore, you would think the Syrian army would have advanced and taken control of that area - given the
fact that they had supposedly fired chemical weapons into that area.

So why are the "rebels" still in control of that area?

Surely if you are an army commander who has just gassed the area of combatants and civilians, you would order
your men to go clear the area of any remaining resistance.


3. Lastly, what is the strategic importance of that area, that drove the Syrian army to resort to desperate
measures like using chemical weapons.The Syrian army was already making considerable gains against the
"rebels" in a conventional manner so why the sudden need to use chemical weapons?

As a matter of fact, it is the "rebels" themselves that have been caught manufacturing and using chemical
weapons and when a similar but smaller attack was carried out in Aleppo, a leading UN Investigator voiced his
suspicions that the "rebels" most likely were behind the attacks based on the accounts of the victims he spoke
to. Below are all the stories in case you missed it:

http://www.voltairenet.org/article178710.html
http://americanfreepress.net/?p=11173
http://rt.com/news/sarin-gas-turkey-al-nusra-021/
http://www.activistpost.com/2013/06/syria-rebels-caught-with-sarin-gas-in.html
[url]http://rt.com/news/syria-chemical-attack-rebels-848/http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/07/09/us-syria-
crisis-chemical-russia-idUSBRE9680YZ20130709[/url]
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/may/6/syrian-rebels-used-sarin-nerve-gas-not-assads-regi/

It makes absolutely no sense, whatsoever, for Assad to use chemical weapons. He has the least to gain and the
most to lose.

Let go of CNN, BBC, Fox News, MSNBC and the rest of the propaganda peddling mainstream media. Read and watch
the following instead:

http://landdestroyer..com
http://www.tomdispatch.com
http://consortiumnews.com
http://activistpost.com
http://infowars.com
http://rt.com
http://presstv.com

Listen to, log unto and follow Gerald Celente, Max Keiser, Mark Dice, Webster G.Tarpley, Alex Jones,
WeAreChange,The Vigilant Citizen, Broc West, Wayne Madsen, WikiLeaks, Russell Brand, Adam Kokesh, Ron Paul,
TomDispatch, Luke Rudkowski, Glenn Greenwald, Jason Bermas,Paul Craig Roberts,etc and get enlightened.


A COUNTRY THAT HAS OVER 860 BASES IN OVER 40 COUNTRIES AND US TERRITORIES IN THE WORLD IS AN EMPIRE AND IS NOT
READY TO LIVE IN PEACE IF IT'S INTERESTS ISN'T GUARANTEED FIRST. A GANGSTER STATE THAT HAS NO REGARDS WHATSOEVER FOR
INTERNATION LAW, HIGHLY HYPOCRITICAL AND DOES AS IT WISHES WITH IMPUNITY AND TOTAL DISREGARD FOR THE HUMAN
RIGHTS OF ITS' ENEMIES OR EVEN IT'S CITIZENS!! A COUNTRY THAT HAS BEEN BEHIND ASSASSINATIONS, ATTEMPTED ASSASSINATIONS, FAUX REVOLUTIONS AND GOVERNMENT OVERTHROWS MORE THAN ALL OTHER COUNTRIES COMBINED!! AMERIKA IS A THREAT TO WORLD PEACE.SIMPLE!!! WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!
Re: Russia Warns America Over Interference In Syria by Msgamble: 12:44pm On Aug 27, 2013
shymexx:

Why won't there be any Sunni left in the country? The whole sectarian thing is just an orchestrated nonsense by outside forces. Syrian Sunni's and Alawite's support Assad. Only the western-proxies are causing divisions there. Btw, more than 50% of Syrians are Sunni's.

You lot are the ones hyping America - America is the real definition of a declining power. A country that can't do anything by itself without dragging NATO into it. If America were as powerful as you internet blockheads want us to believe - tell the US to go arrest Edward Snowden in Russia. undecided

The sectarian conflict nature is 'external views'? Then tell me the reasons Assad used bulk or most of his army protecting non-voilent alawite heartland? Why rebels contain 95% sunni fighter(iran called them 'takfiris'-sunni name in iran)?..why US run to Nato council? Nato is a military alliance, going to war unilatery without concensus will leads to overwhelming international condemnation n member will feel undermined..why didn't US go arrest swonden in Russia? Assange is more of problem than swonden,yet he stay at 'little Ecuadorian' embassy in london, is more of UN reaction cos it can't be done without voilent..US diminshing world power? With 11 aircraft carrier to Russia 1,US's ICBM of 4500km range..some say US has the most powerful missile sheild? No, the most powerful is advance Russian S-300(can target 6 target at a times)..U're truly novice in international circle
Re: Russia Warns America Over Interference In Syria by OutThere: 1:10pm On Aug 27, 2013
Msgamble: The sectarian conflict nature is 'external views'? Then tell me the reasons Assad used bulk or most of his army protecting non-voilent alawite heartland? Why rebels contain 95% sunni fighter(iran called them 'takfiris'-sunni name in iran)?..why US run to Nato council? Nato is a military alliance, going to war unilatery without concensus will leads to overwhelming international condemnation n member will feel undermined..why didn't US go arrest swonden in Russia? Assange is more of problem than swonden,yet he stay at 'little Ecuadorian' embassy in london, is more of UN reaction cos it can't be done without voilent..US diminshing world power? With 11 aircraft carrier to Russia 1,US's ICBM of 4500km range..some say US has the most powerful missile sheild? No, the most powerful is advance Russian S-300(can target 6 target at a times)..U're truly novice in international circle

Yes, America's military might and prowess is undeniable: The well tested and proven drone crafts; 11 carrier groups out of which an astonishing 10 are super carriers with 3 more on the way; military bases all over the world; the ability to deploy forces at a moment's notice,a war hardened and experienced military; some of the most advanced and fearsome military hardware such the X-47B drone capable of landing on aircraft carriers, the highly secret X-37B space warfare military shuttle,the X-51 hypersonic scramjet, the troubled but advanced F-22 Raptor fighter jet together with the upcoming F-35 strike fighter jet, the stealth B-2 bombers, etc; the unmatched $600 billion - and counting - defense budget; the inescapable control, creation and ownership of most of the technologies and tech companies behind the digital/internet age that we just can't live without and so on, etc

BUT remember that Nazi Germany too had the latest technologies as well such as the V2 rockets, the first jet fighter the Messerschmitt Me 262 Schwalbe, the Tiger II tank and the harbinger of the modern assault rifle: the Sturmgewehr 44 but all these couldn't help the Germans win the war. It was too little, too late and by the time these weapons came on board, their military had been stretched thin and they had committed to too many misguided campaigns.

The Russians and Chinese undeniably may be playing catch up with the Americans but they aren't asleep either. It is plain obvious that the new theatre of war will be against the Chinese and the Russians as evidenced by the manner in which these two countries are being surrounded by American military bases such as the new ones in The Philippines and Australia and the increasing number of ex-Soviet countries - despite the assurances and promises of the deceitful and greedy Americans - signing up to join NATO. China and Russia are frantically modernizing their militaries and some of the awesome weaponry on display within America's arsenal will also be available to the Chinese and Russians circa 2020

America's debt is spiraling out of control. It's economy is in tatters, it's cities are getting bankrupt and I am afraid it is digging itself into a whole in which there is no escape.
Re: Russia Warns America Over Interference In Syria by OutThere: 1:25pm On Aug 27, 2013
MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX How the US Militay Industrial Complex, Corporate Financiers and so-called
Think Tanks Continually Looks For New Enemies and Is Surrounding China and Russia at the Moment

http://landdestroyer..com/2011/03/naming-names-your-real-government.html
http://landdestroyer..com/2012/01/think-tanks-explained.html
http://www.voltairenet.org/China-s-Land-Bridge-to-Turkey
http://www.infowars.com/think-tank-calls-on-us-to-deploy-another-warship-to-threaten-iran/
http://landdestroyer..com/2012/07/russia-vs-wall-streets-ngos.html


I would love to post more but it would be flagged as SPAM!
Re: Russia Warns America Over Interference In Syria by politicalpastor: 1:47pm On Aug 27, 2013
if you know the real America, you wont be saying this,
de united states is just too much for even china to handle
talhere are many more. guy forget Russia.



k less of small Russia. its like you have forgotten the sound
less aircraft so soon. and t
Confusionist: dude, are u confused?

Did u think America is the defender of the universe?

Dude, america is the cause of many crisis in the world today!!!
Re: Russia Warns America Over Interference In Syria by lemmings(m): 3:00pm On Aug 27, 2013
LoL! Okay,okay.

To all those saying if repubs were in power,russia won't be a problem.. correct if i'm mistaken,but cold war reagan was repub,right? And Bush,snr also? Well, why didn't reagan damn it all and raise his index finger in the face of russia and attack cuba?? He could have, but because he was wise.. He didn't.

Hey, i'm not saying russia can absolutely defeat usa. Noooo!! But if america goes in, they will win, but they will come out exhausted and bloodied and with heavy,heavy losses. Russia is not a pushover. Clinton said it,jimmy carter said it,bush snr grudgingly admitted it,reagan whispered it and roosevelt/ kennedy openly said it. America isn't afraid, it's just cautious. Check wiki.. russia is the only country able to destroy america within 30minutes.

Anyway, democrats with all their warmongering havn't taken their gra-gra near russia.

Weapons? America. Ships and airplanes? America. Stealth? America probably, though russians seem to have almost the same models as the us, like their tu bear bombers.

In May 2012, Russian General Nikolay Yegorovich Makarov said that there is a possibility of a preemptive strike on missile defense sites in Eastern Europe, to apply pressure to the United States regarding Russia's demands.[21] In July 2012, two Tu-95 Bears were intercepted by NORAD fighters in the air defense zone off the U.S. coast of Alaska, where they may have been practicing the targeting of Fort Greely and Vandenberg Air Force Base .[22] Later in August 2012, it was revealed that an Akula class submarine had conducted a patrol within the Gulf of Mexico without being detected, raising alarms of the U.S. Navy's anti-submarine warfare capabilities.[23][24] On 12 February 2013, just hours before the 2013 State of the Union Address, two Russian Tu-95 Bear strategic bombers equipped with nuclear-tipped cruise missiles circled the United States territory of Guam.[25][26] Air Force F-15 jets based on Andersen Air Force Base were scrambled to intercept the aircraft.[25][26] The Russian aircraft reportedly "were intercepted and left the area in a northbound direction."

source:wiki.
Re: Russia Warns America Over Interference In Syria by OutThere: 3:48pm On Aug 27, 2013
Now the US and the international community (sic) is saying that the Syrian governments decision to allow the inspectors access to the site of this latest attack is “too little, too late”. Weren’t the UN investigators in Syria in the first place to investigate attacks purportedly carried about the rebels (sic) way back in March – over 5 months before the investigators arrived? Why is this two delay to reach the site such a sticking point all of a sudden? Mind boggling hypocrisy!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khan_al-Assal_massacre
Re: Russia Warns America Over Interference In Syria by ocelot2006(m): 4:00pm On Aug 27, 2013
ettybaba:
With the exit of Hosni Mubarak is Egypt better?
With the exit of Gadhaffi is Libya safer?


Nope.
Re: Russia Warns America Over Interference In Syria by bookface: 4:06pm On Aug 27, 2013
I don't believe Assad actually gassed his own people. My bet is on the rebels, but the sharks are out and it appears there's very little prospects that a military strike will not be conducted within the coming days!

Obama foolishly boxed himself in when he made that "red line" comment! and I'd wager that this adventurism is more about ego and saving face than it is about helping the Syrian people. Unfortunately, it's a slippery slope and it might well be the start of another world war - although Russia has mentioned that it does not intend to take any military action. But you can never predict the random nature of a war.

Obama will hang himself completely in the court of public opinion if he chose to strike against Syria. Not only will the US lose any credibility it's got left, it will be hated more in the middle east, and it will be held responsible for any further bloodshed that occurs across the middle east - American public will also hate Obama for repeating the mistakes of Bush!

The US military might is unquestionably the biggest and the fiercest in the world - its ability to deploy and have its forces within the zone of action within few days, is unrivaled. Russians come a distant second and China isn't even on the list of the big boys - although it must be said that what they lack in technology and modern weaponry, they make up for in economic strength and numbers.

Russia is NOT on the same level with the United States. The former Soviet Union fielded a military strength that matches the West in everything from bombers, to subs to rocket technology. The Soviet Union was an equal match with the United States, Russia however is NOT! When the Soviet Union collapsed, the military complex was practically shut down. Russia still has its nuclear deterrence, but its technology is well outdated. Who would have thought that Russia couldn't manage to produce its own drones and needed to purchase one from Israel? Or that Russia needed to purchase mistral warships from the french? - The Soviet Union built everything at home, from the tiniest bullets to the biggest rockets.

That said, i don't think Russia and the US will likely ever face off against each other. The stakes are just too high! They've been sabre-rattling for decades and that's how things are likely to remain - both countries will just keep running cold wars, engaging in actions that will cause an international embarrassment to the other - It must be said that no one is good at these games than the Russians
Re: Russia Warns America Over Interference In Syria by ocelot2006(m): 4:07pm On Aug 27, 2013
you're sure 'bout that pumpkin? Reality's totally different from what you watch in the movies oh
A-ZeD:

America is responsible for the relative peace on earth today. Without them the world would have been back to the stone ages. Before you shout CNN brainwash, take a look at the middle East very well, the Saudis hate the Iranians and the Israelites and the feeling is mutual between those three countries. No America and world war 3 begins.

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Re: Russia Warns America Over Interference In Syria by OutThere: 4:24pm On Aug 27, 2013
ocelot2006: you're sure 'bout that pumpkin? Reality's totally different from what you watch in the movies oh

He has had too much of Uncle Sam's Koolaid! Too much Hollywood inbetween grin
Re: Russia Warns America Over Interference In Syria by ocelot2006(m): 4:27pm On Aug 27, 2013
Msgamble: 2014 ke? Do u think there will b any sunni left in syria by then to vote him out of power with current sectarian cleansing going-on..u ppl are just 'hyping russian' they are diminishing powers lyk UK,FRANCE(living on past glories, with US missile sheild in EU to protect their civilian)..new power is rising in 'the East' n they are China n India..syria is 'ethnically n sectarianly complex' for US to get involved in unless it will become another vietnam or korean war


Your lack of the basic knowledge of geopolitics is quite obvious. Did you just call Russia a diminishing power? You do know you're refering to the world's sole energy superpower, right? And have you forgotten the Ossetian War when the American+Isreali trained and armed Georgians got trashed 6-ways-to-sunday by a third-rate Russian Army division? How about Ukraine were Russian influence led to the eviction of the western-backed govt from power? And then there's tge current Syrian conflict were tge Russians dared the west by supplying weapons to the Syrians, thus turning the tide in favour of the Assad regime, and silenced the west. Do you really think the Americans will dare launch any military action into Syria without the consent of Russia, especially when such action will put the Russian Naval base at Tarus at risk? Think again, homeboy.


Oh, one more thing.....the Indians dont even come CLOSE to the Russians military-wise, especially when the later relies on the former for weapons and training. The Russians own enough nucs weapons to turn the world (USA inclusive) into one radioactive glass wasteland 10times over.
Re: Russia Warns America Over Interference In Syria by ocelot2006(m): 4:31pm On Aug 27, 2013
InvertedHammer: /
Russia is just fuming unnecessarily.

If my boys decide to go in, Russia ain't gonna do squat.

They are lucky that it is not the Republicans in power. They would have mowed down Assad while giving Russia the middle finger that they rightly deserve.

I can't wait for Republicans to come back. Enough of this "small boys" provocation already!


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The Republicans were in power when the Russians trashed the shyte out of the American-backed Georgians during tge South-Ossentians. The Russians even went as far as reaching the gates of Tblisi, but what did the Americans do, 'xcept bitch and moan? Zilch, nothing, nada.
Re: Russia Warns America Over Interference In Syria by OutThere: 4:32pm On Aug 27, 2013
Extremists Ravaging Syria Created by US in 2007

US, Saudi Arabia, and Israel funded and have backed regional army of terrorists since 2007 specifically to overthrow Syria and Iran.
by Tony Cartalucci

May 11, 2012 - A 2007 New Yorker article written by renowned journalist Seymour Hersh revealed a plan under the Bush Administration to organize, arm, train, and deploy a regional army of terrorists, many with ties directly to Al Qaeda, in a bid to destabilize and overthrow both Syria and Iran. The plan consisted of US and Israeli backing, covertly funneled through Saudi proxies to conceal Washington and Tel Aviv's role, in building the sectarian extremist front.

According to Seymour Hersh's 2007 article, "The Redirection: Is the Administration's new policy benefiting our enemies in the war on terrorism?," (1) Saudi Arabia, a more credible candidate for openly interfacing with the militants, openly admitted that it was a danger, but that they "created it," and therefore could "control it," in meetings with Washington. The plan called for not only setting up terrorist enclaves in nations neighboring Syria, including Lebanon, Jordan, and US-occupied Iraq, but also for building up the Muslim Brotherhood, both inside Syria's borders and beyond - including in Egypt.

Hersh's work now holds new relevance as revelations that indeed a sectarian-extremist element is behind the violence in Syria, including a horrific bombing in Damascus (2) that has killed scores and injured hundreds. That these terrorist elements are openly supported by Saudi Arabia and other Gulf states, with militants and weapons flowing in from the above mentioned Iraq, Jordan, and Lebanon, (3) just as planned in 2007, shows clearly that the US-Israeli-Saudi plan is unfolding as intended.

As the West feigns shock and horror over the rise of their terrorist front, from Egypt to Syria, and beyond, along with the resurrection of the Muslim Brotherhood, who Hersh confirmed was already benefiting from US and Saudi aid in 2007, it is clear that in reality this is the fruition of a complex premeditated plan, years in the making.

The accomplices include Neo-Conservatives Dick Cheney, Elliott Abrams, and Zalmay Khalilzad - who also serves on the board of the US State Department's National Endowment for Democracy, (4) a chief facilitator of the US-engineered "Arab Spring" (5) destabilization that brought the Muslim Brotherhood (purposefully) back onto the Middle East's political landscape. This after Arab nations fought long difficult battles against the Brotherhood's brand of violent extremism and anti-secular policies. Martin Indyk of the US State Department under former President Clinton, a former Ambassador to Israel, and a director at the corporate-financier funded think-tank, the Brookings Institution, was also mentioned in Hersh's report, and was a co-author of the infamous 2009 "Which Path to Persia?" report, (6) openly declaring US machinations in bringing down the Iranian government, including the use of listed terrorist organizations.


Image: Twin car bombings in Damascus Syria kill scores and maim hundreds - the final result of years of US-Israeli-Saudi backing of vicious terrorists, admitted in both Seymour Hersh's 2007 article, "The Redirection," as well as across US policy think-tanks openly conspiring to fund and arm listed terrorist organizations for use against Syria, Iran, and even Pakistan.
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Saudi Arabia's Prince Bandar is noted by Hersh as instrumental in coordinating efforts between the Saudis, Israel, and the United States, while the political party built up around pro-Saudi Lebanese tycoon Rafic Hariri set the groundwork in Lebanon for the creation of staging points for the violent terrorist front.

With sectarian-extremists committing increasingly frequent and violent atrocities across Syria, the US and the Western media in general, have attempted to portray it as a natural progression of Syria's internal conflict - when in reality, based on Hersh's report and confirmed again more recently as the source of the rebels' funding and support is revealed, it is clearly the result of this long-planned act of foreign aggression against Syria, perpetrated by the US, Israel, Saudi Arabia, and their terrorist proxies in the Muslim Brotherhood.

Hersh's report had warned of the tragic consequences to be expected once this terrorist-front had been unleashed, namely, according to former CIA agent Robert Baer in Lebanon, " Sunni Arabs carrying out a "cataclysmic conflict." Baer warned of the need to protect Christians from a predictable onslaught by terrorist extremists - an onslaught now playing out against Syria's 10% Christian population, according to the LA Times' "Church fears 'ethnic cleansing' of Christians in Homs, Syria," (7) and more recently in USA Today's distorted, but still telling, "Christians in Syria live in uneasy alliance with Assad, Alawites." (cool

Christians are not the only minorities being targeted by the US-Israeli-Saudi terrorist front, but all minorities are as is secularism itself, being systematically attacked, as is the case in the wake of the NATO-backed dismemberment of Libya. (9)

As the US attempts to portray terrorist violence in Syria as the fault of Syria's government for not yielding to "international" pressure - we must remember that while they are absolutely correct - it is not because the Syrian government has reaped the consequences of inciting its own people to violence, but is instead suffering at the hands of a sectarian-extremist front, created by the West and its allies years in advance for the sole purpose of sowing terror to destabilize, divide, and forever destroy Syria and Iran. Should Syria or Iran fall to such machinations, their fate will be no different than that of Libya, now lying in absolute ruin, without a government, without law, but with torturers and militants roaming the streets and preying on the population as Libya's oil is pilfered by foreign contractors.

There will be no winners if Syria falls, no appeasing the reckless forces of terror manufactured and thrust at the Syrian people. Only unity and perseverance will save Syria from suffering Libya's fate. The Arab World itself must make a reassessment in the midst of a geopolitical landscape manipulated by the US, Israel, and Saudi Arabia, pitting Muslim against Muslim for the sake of destroying the stability needed for all to prosper.
Re: Russia Warns America Over Interference In Syria by citizenisb: 4:33pm On Aug 27, 2013
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