twinstaiye:

Chelsea suddenly becomes a darling team to fans of football all over the world just as soon as Abrahamovich

twinstaiye:

In quick succession, they had win the prestigious English Premiership. The bone of contention now is was it Abrahamovich Millions that is going on for Chelsea or Mourinho's managerial capabilities or both.

Christino:

you're da man. It's like coaching Brazil and winning the world cup, come and coach Angola now, and people talk about Porto as if they are not a team, remember they trashed liverpool o (without mourinho).

Christino:

i quite disagree Lasun, Real Madrid, since 2003 have won nothing, look at how many coaches have coached them, but look at what Benitez did with Liverpool. Organization matters a lot in a team, some teams just need someone to put them together, look at bulgaria in 1994, Croatia in 1998 and South Korea and Turkey in 2004, so you see man.

Sorry for the mismatch, Porto trashed Man-U in mourinho's time and then, benfica where just a bunch of nuts (at least Porto did the double) then benfica trashed the defending champions (and for them to have lost out to porto the previous year) that says a lot about porto and both are the biggest clubs in Portugal. So a coach without monetary and talent back up is just there. Wigan put up a nice challenge in the first half of the season, if only they could get two or three talents, they could have gone veeeryy far, because they were in second position for about 7 weeks.

lalaboi:

Now to d topic. I believe this thread was brought up due to jealousy. Well if u want d answer, its mourinho mourinho mourinho.

hucarson:


1

It was the Man Utd V Porto match(2003/04) at Old Trafford that made Mourinho what he is today.
    Paul Scholes scored a valid goal but a visually-impaired line assistant disallowed a very good goal.
    Had that goal stood, Porto would have been eliminated early in the competiton and Mourinho would never have   won the Champions league, let alone being noticed by Roman Abrahamovic.



2 

Majority of Mourinho's buys(excluding Michael Essien) before now have been very disappointing. Del      Horno,Carvallho,Drogba, Kezman and Wright-Phillips have not really justified their value at Chelsea. They r simply bunch of mediocres.


3

Technically, the major performers at Chelsea today have always been Claudio Ranieri's properties.
Petr Cech, Arjen Robben, Damien Duff, Joe Cole, Frank Lampard,Claude Makelele and Hernan Crespo were all bought by the tinker-man which proves Mourinho's success was hugely built on the sweats of Ranieri.

shashxxl:

The brain behind chelsea is the tactics and man management,sense of unity and togetherness injected into the team that has brought them into global reckoning.That of course was made possible by the man Jose Mourinho. Remember Mourinho won 2004 champions league with a supposedly mediocre Porto team which had no billions and this is a testament that

hucarson:

@ Akola,


Why do u have to open your own can of worms?
Anyway,let me address your reply one by one.


* Portugese title or whatever is called is as crappy as the country itself.
I have always known Benfica and Porto to emerge Champions in that league since i started watching Eurosport as a kid.
Anyone can steer Porto and Benfica to win the Portugese league as this has become birth-rights to these 2 clubs. Its just like Celtic and Rangers in Scottish League. Mourinho did not do anything extra-ordinary @ Porto. Porto have always been a good team by the Portugese league's standards.
The likes of Mario Jardel et al were all living legends way back so it wan't Jose that brought glory to the club.

Spur's goal at Old Trafford was still a bit debatable. Why? Spur's goal did not hit the back of the net. The ball crossed the goal-line by yards but it did not hit the net. Paul Scholes goal smashed the net and a visually-impaired ref assistant disallowed it for his own stupid reasons.
Besides,isn't the Champions League a bigger competition than the English League? Uefa Champions League is just a bit behind the World Cup in class and quality so one should expect better officiating than the Premiership.


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I can authoritatively say Mourinho signed Mateja Kezman for £5m from PSV in July 2004. It wasn't Ranieri that signed him.
It beats me u don't even know so much about your "darling team".
How can u say Carvalho is better than Ferdinand? I wont be surprised if u say Etim Esin is better than Ronaldinho.
Rio Ferdinand is the best central defender in the Premiership by miles. Terry and Carvalho gets mentioned because Makelele does an exemplary job in covering Chelsea's back four. Makelele breaks opposition's attacks for Terry and Carvallho to pick up the scraps hence making their jobs easy.

Carvallho's goal against Man Utd is a simple case of counter-attack where 5 Chelsea players were against 2 Man Utd defenders.
My Grandma would have scored a better goal than Carvallho's in the same position and scenario.
As far as i am concerned, Ferdinand + Kolo Toure + Jamie Carragher + John Terry and Gallas are all better than Carvallho as central defenders.
Go n check the stats: Terry + Gallas Vs Terry + Carvallho and tell me which combination had let in more goals in Chelsea's defence.
Why did Mourinho axe Carvallho and even said Carvallho have got IQ problems?


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Are u asking me what Crespo did at Chelsea?
U should have asked me what Crespo did at AC Milan? He was a better player at Milan than a defensive team like Chelsea that plays a lone striker. Everyone knows Crespo is a good striker. Jose's formation should be blamed for Crespo's inadequacies.
Robben and Duff are one of the most hard-working players in Chelsea's ranks. Have u forgotten how Robben blew up the English League apart in the 2004/05 season before his injury at Blackburn? Robben gave Chelsea an edge and he single-handedly prised defences apart.
He is one of the most important players in Chelsea.
Mourinho signed Shaun Wright Phillips because he did not want any of his rivals to make use of him. We all knew Shaun Wright Phillips had no business in Chelsea's overcrowded midfield players. Arsenal was Shawn's best choice but the love of money clawed into him and his dad.

Is your SWP not more useless than the Robben and Duff u think are stupid?
At least a player bought for £21m to solve a problem should be better than his predecessors. SWP is a disappointing player who just runs up and down on the pitch like a headless chicken.
Joe Cole had always been a good player. He was young in Ranieri's days and u have to allow some degree of inconsistencies so u should expect him to develop as years go by.
Its like saying Ferguson made Rooney a first teamer. Rooney had always been exceptional. These Managers don't train players like u think.
Managers only ensure these young players develop in the right manner to be the best they can be.