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Re: Health Workers Call Off Strike by princenonny(m): 10:11pm On Aug 28, 2013 |
Montaque: faculty/Course syndrome is ur problem.what u know is in ur head alone.respect other fields of learning.afterall,you might get buried by illitrate undertakers who have mastered the art of conveying a coffin to its burial site.I will only respect u if u respect me. I am a dr..I am better qualified to manage patients beta dan u. I dnt take orders frm u. U take frm me. Until u get that into ur thick skull, den I wud respect u. As for non- medical fields, I hv tremendous respect for lawyers, engineers, carpenters, musicians, actors,police and even grave diggers. They hv specific roles they play in the society and I respect dem for that. I wud nt respect an urchin, who hs little knowledge of medicine, want me to take instructions frm hm/her. You r my assistance for life until u take d hippocratic oath. Until then, respect ursef while I respect mine 4 Likes |
Re: Health Workers Call Off Strike by biomedixexcel(m): 10:31pm On Aug 28, 2013 |
Laalamed: are you referring to me as female? Naughty u! Hahaha |
Re: Health Workers Call Off Strike by biomedixexcel(m): 10:34pm On Aug 28, 2013 |
E princenonny: I will only respect u if u respect me. I am a dr..I am better qualified to manage patients beta dan u. I dnt take orders frm u. U take frm me. Until u get that into ur thick skull, den I wud respect u. As for non- medical fields, I hv tremendous respect for lawyers, engineers, carpenters, musicians, actors,police and even grave diggers. They hv specific roles they play in the society and I respect dem for that. I wud nt respect an urchin, who hs little knowledge of medicine, want me to take instructions frm hm/her. You r my assistance for life until u take d hippocratic oath. Until then, respect ursef while I respect mine Am quite sure you know the better places to say all these garbage, let me help you, say it in your wards and move straight to labs to say it not nairaland 1 Like |
Re: Health Workers Call Off Strike by thuao(m): 10:41pm On Aug 28, 2013 |
biomedixexcel: Whao. I don't kniw Wia u belong so I don't know ow to answer u. I don't wana mince word wit u, but calling me a dumb head, do u think that's gentlemanly or lady like. Do u kniw ow many blood ur people mismatch per week. Or y do u think we av transfusion order, oh sorry, I v forgotten u won't kniw that one. Maybe u don't know, but some so called nurses. Or whatever u decide to call them actually having failed SSCE several times or being unable to get admission, actuall just stay in hospital for 2yrs or so and are being called nurses and doing nursing work, so tell Me again what u do that anyone wit basic elementary education can be taught to do. Serving drugs. Dressing small wounds Serving food... Ur so called nursing plans re just mangt plans that u RR following. Believe me, u re dispensable. Despite ur strikes hospital is Still functioning though not fully only due to numbers. |
Re: Health Workers Call Off Strike by Nobody: 10:54pm On Aug 28, 2013 |
biomedixexcel: It's obvious that most of the blabbing doctors here are learners, I mean they are yet to graduate and the prove to know more than their elders in the job, one said above that medical lab students are medicine dropouts! Well in my the school from which I was trained, I can't point to a single student that dropouts from medicine and took solace in med lab, they rather go to other courses, not even in college of medicine but in agriculture and sciences. Same thing is applicable to mls dropouts, they go to other courses outside basic medical sciences . In case you don't know I represent LAUTECH.you graduated from lautech! i am sorry oh! |
Re: Health Workers Call Off Strike by Nobody: 11:05pm On Aug 28, 2013 |
#me@: bsc mortuary science,bsc cleaning science and techniques,bsc lab attendant etc would also help to erase doctors from surface of earth. |
Re: Health Workers Call Off Strike by infolekan(m): 11:07pm On Aug 28, 2013 |
This biomedexexel or whatever you're called sure have a lot of problem and reaching above your arms grasp is one of them. Comparing any health team member to a Doctor is quite arrogant to even start with. The closest to a Doctor are pharmacist and they don't blab any how cos they know their worth. But a disillusioned med lab tech(or scientist) or even a nurse is the height of pride. Doctors are far above you and you'll always take the second fiddle when it comes to health care. |
Re: Health Workers Call Off Strike by ohzee(f): 11:14pm On Aug 28, 2013 |
It is a pity that this battle for supremacy in our health sector will continue to set us back. It is only in Nigeria that ALLIED health professionals have refused to stay within their job descriptions. Pharmacists who are supposed to DISPENSE, COMPOUND and ADVISE on prescriptions now prescribe drugs. Lab scientists now PRESCRIBE drugs based on a lab result. As for who is the leader it is ridiculous to argue: DOCTORS will always lead the health team and they are responsible for the patient which is why they are the ones who get sued when anything goes wrong. It is because of this RESPONSIBILITY for the patient that their training is all encompassing because you can't be in charge of what you don't know. Nigerians love titles that's why they now want to be Consultant pharmacist, consultant nurses etc. A Consultant Physician or Surgeon is exactly what the name implies. He or she is consulted on the difficult cases and takes FULL RESPONSIBILITY that's why they are paid so much. Let us stop this senseless bickering and move our health sector forward 2 Likes |
Re: Health Workers Call Off Strike by thuao(m): 11:38pm On Aug 28, 2013 |
biomedixexcel: It's obvious that most of the blabbing doctors here are learners, I mean they are yet to graduate and the prove to know more than their elders in the job, one said above that medical lab students are medicine dropouts! Well in my the school from which I was trained, I can't point to a single student that dropouts from medicine and took solace in med lab, they rather go to other courses, not even in college of medicine but in agriculture and sciences. Same thing is applicable to mls Mr biome........ Can u honestly tell me that while in secondary school u dreamt of become a lab scientist or that I filled lab science as ur first choice in ur jamb form. Answer truthfully. Don't forget ladokites plenty here, cos we know ow it is. 60% of those in nursing, 90% of mls students re those who found themselves there by circumstances, who can't get into medicine. That's ow it is only minority really chose mls. So talk objectively and remove sentiments. Other health workers will Always be useful and. Relevant but let not them wana be the head. Saki n sebi ora. Teru BA PE Nile yoma bu alajobi. U were created to help out not to head. Think of this, remove a frm the team what remains. Body without head. Can u all honestly ggo to a hospital that has no doctor. Actually that's no hospital but an abbatoir run by u people mission home, maternity home etc. Ir u reqlly kniw ur work u will be respected, part of wch include knowing ur boundary. Do ur work and u will be dignified. 5 Likes |
Re: Health Workers Call Off Strike by Oduduwaboy(m): 3:51am On Aug 29, 2013 |
@bludeville or whatever you call yourself be less abusive next time you make a post on social media. You don't own a monopoly of yoruba words of abuse and you may be shocked ..... The arguements against Doctors heading different levels of the health sector are mostly emotional and obscurantist . If such arguements have not been put to use in the judiciary where lawyers hold sway unchallenged or in the universities where it is only Academics that hold certain positions; why then do professional irredentists see it fit to demonise doctors on these account ? |
Re: Health Workers Call Off Strike by Nobody: 4:37am On Aug 29, 2013 |
MEDICAL STRIKE; PRESIDENT JONATHAN DANCING ETIGHI WITH OUR LIVES Written by Fejiro Oliver It is a mathematical fact that fifty percent of all physicians graduate in the bottom half of their class Unknown Just when I was about getting ready for my afternoon games; an sms rushed in, which got me thinking that the medical war will go on nonstop until the citizen and the president do something about it by laying off the minister of Health, Mr. Chukwu Onyebuchi or acceding to JOHESU request. I wasn’t thinking because it was the first sms of the day over my last write up on the medical strike. As a matter of fact, it wasn’t among the first 100 sms and definitely not among the over 480 mails received at that moment, but because I concluded that I have finally known the reason for the power tussle in the volatile health sector. The message came thus: “Doctors are the academics in the health sector, while your so called health workers-many of them-semi-educated are the non academic staff. In all jobs, only certain cadre of workers become CEO. For instance, the academics in the university, the engineers in NNPC, Judges in judiciary. That is why doctors are CMD in hospitals. You claimed you are a journalist. Perhaps a secretary is the EDITOR of your newspaper! You are one of those jealous of doctors. Your article revealed that.” He ended. This is definitely what they are made to believe during their housemanship and internship. If this is so; the medical sector is dead. With supposed physicians that think like this, the medical rofession is in peril. Let’s analyze. All over the world, there are only three group of medical profession(I stand to be corrected) that are ascribed the title ‘doctor’ namely; doctor of medicine, doctor of physiotherapy and doctor of dentistry, but this piece is narrowed down to doctor of medicine. When I set out to write ‘Nigeria Medical Workers strike; let us all die’, I wasn’t expecting the kind of controversy and buzz as it has generated home and abroad. Certainly I was threading where angels fear to tread as revealed by Nigerian Medical Association (NMA) members who have called and sent mails. Their various comment suggested that I was threading on a dangerous path and should not be the one to open the public eye to the politicking in the health. Sorry my dear family members who are part of NMA; the truth must be told. Our dear friend called other medical graduates “semi-educated’, a pitiable summary of their reason for going on strike, so he sees it. Can a pharmacist who manufactures the drugs which they in the doctor category prescribe be a semi illiterate, and yet they ask the public to take the drugs? Can a radiographer who do all the scan work in the hospital be an illiterate and yet they the so called ‘doctors’ begin treatment, while dependant on the scan produced by the radiographer? Is the medical lab scientist an illiterate when he diagnosis the cause of an ailment through his series of test carried out by him that the physicians used in working? Is the nurse truly semi- literate when a patient hope of recovery depends on him/her? Bring them on; is the optometrist a semi illiterate when patients with various eye problems seek his medical solution? Who then is the semi illiterate; the man who calls himself a doctor but cannot begin treatment until a test is carried out, or the man who diagnoses and refers the patient to any of the three doctors? Is it the man who forgets a scissors or cotton wool inside a patient body, stitch it up only for the patient to die later? Let the public judge. I don’t know the school our doctors went to but the schools in Nigeria and abroad that I have been to bears school of health sciences, faculty of health sciences or college of medicine and all the various medical departments are in these departments. It’s befuddling to say that an insignificant department that cannot operate alone be allowed to be a CMD. A professor of medicine who called from the USA to lend his voice aptly noted that hospitals are left in the hands of health administrator not clinicians. Can someone sing to the heavens to this ‘doctors’ that they have no business heading a hospital and if they should head, that any of the medical profession who is most qualified should head. That a department of radiology, medical laboratory scientist (which the media erroneously refer to as medical laboratory technologist), optometry etc is headed by a doctor is an aberration, a misdemeanor and oddity. What then is the use of studying such course when the practitioner cannot get to the peak of his career? Let all medical departments be headed by a graduate of such; not a fellow who did only few months of residency in it. You don’t force leadership when a people reject it. The various departments have refused to have MBBS graduate as their heads. Must they shed blood or keep this strike going for all our loved ones to die before their call is heeded? In the college of engineering, there exist various departments, but the civil engineers have never laid claim that they alone be allowed to head the ministry of works, neither has the building engineers say to the structural engineer that it is their prerogative to head ministry of housing. The petrochemical engineer has not told the chemical engineer or petroleum engineer that they alone be allowed to head NNPC. The land surveyor has not told the estate surveyor that they alone be made minister for land survey? Has the quantity surveyor told the land surveyor that they should be allowed to be made surveyor general of the federation? NO! They all know that they are all engineers and surveyors, but designated differently for the smooth operation of the job. Where therein lies this show of pomposity by a minute member of the medical profession that they are the owners of medicine. The public may not know it, but now they must! The three profession bearing ‘doctors’ constitute only 30 percent of the entire clinical staff in the hospital with doctor of medicine producing a paltry 12 percent. That a group of 12 percent be allowed to Lord over 70 percent qualified and worthy medical workers is an unforgivable sin and injustice to mankind. The academics which are the brain behind the country do not have only graduates of educational degrees as Vice Chancellors, but anybody who is a lecturer no matter the field of study can be appointed. The Judiciary which the doctors of medicine want to emulate is the most professional field in the world, where universities operate a department as a faculty. Yet they have never fought each other that an international law and jurisprudence judge should not be made a minister of justice. They have never asked the President to allow only law school graduates of criminal laws to be made an attorney general, neither have they argued that only civil law graduate be made a chief judge. Anyone of the law profession is allowed to aspire to be a judge without hindrances. What then is wrong with our MBBS doctors? No medical profession is entirely independent; all of them are allied to one another; support staff to each other. Let me tell you an experience. Five years ago, my cousin who is a doctor of medicine took me to see his friend who is a doctor of physiotherapy and was about to wed in two weeks time. There in the hospital, I heard his patient, an elderly man telling him that if he can make him walk before his wedding day; he, the patient will surprise him. I don’t know how he did it, but before the end of the two weeks, the man was hale and hearty, walking very well. I bet you can never guess this, but the patient was a consultant cardiologist! Yes, a consultant cardiologist who has given hope on life brought back to ‘life’ by another field of medicine. He did make good his promise as he was a major sponsor of the wedding. As I write, in Ahmadu Bello University in a unit (which I won’t disclose) lies a consultant pediatrician who has been sustained on physiotherapy for the past ten years, after a successful surgery, with many more in the cue daily for treatment and yet his NMA colleagues will want the world to believe that they are indispensable, when actually they contribute the lowest of medical delivery. I know of hundreds NMA members whose hope of living lies in the nurses, DPT and optometrist; yet they refuse to allow professionalism reign in the health sector. When doctors of medicine go on strike, they want my likes to pen reports that will cause government to hear and attract public sympathy, yet when other medical unions go on same strike; their national president term it sabotage, urging her members to be on duty. They want the media to be silent about it, forgetting that NMA strike does not affect every patient as there are always skeletal works going on by consultants and house officers. But how wrong he is. In the field of medicine; you are a clinical staff, non clinical staff or administrative staff. If this is so, what manner of argument are they propounding that medicine practice is akin to a house being built, where other staff are laborers’ while they are the engineers. It doesn’t just blend. Fejiro Oliver is always paid by agents, so they shout. When I wrote advocating for fair trial to Ibori, they shouted to high heavens that I was paid millions by Ibori hatchet men; when I wrote the APC story; APC chieftains screamed that PDP is using me as their new media man. When I wrote against my own constituency, NUJ, for engaging in unprofessionalism; they say Fejiro was being used by disgruntled elements and when I broke the Dafinone’s secret daughter reports, his hangers-on raised the roof that the secret daughter, Elizabeth Dafinone has paid me in pounds since she resides in London. And now that I have written on the JOHESU/NUPTAM strike, NMA members allege that I have been paid and being used by Medical Lab Scientist and Nurses to heat the polity and cause the sack of Minister Onyebuchi. If truly I’m being paid for all the countless reports and stories I have written for over a decade; I should be flying in my own private jet, chartering private planes whenever I go travelling, not boarding a business class. Reports emanating from various newspaper reports, says that patients are already dying, with many more being evacuated to private hospitals; yet the doctors are there, helpless with no solution to the cure as they are handicapped. Will a doctor of medicine go to the physio department to treat a case he has never seen all his life apart from reading about them (that is if he has ever heard about it). I write with the spirit of truth and the various media publishers in Nigeria, London, USA, Ghana, Vienna, Netherlands etc publish in the spirit of truth. Nigerians have personally asked that I express their gratitude to them for being a vessel of information and making open what the ordinary masses never knew. I do not just write as a journalist, but also an activist, who advocates for the right things to be done and workers given their due benefits. Mr. Minister, Nigerians are the ones dying not your children, they are the ones suffering, not your immediate relatives. These medical workers you know as I know do not truly feel the pains as the electorate, but must they all die before you tender your resignation honorably? To you Mr. President, we know you don’t give a damn, but don’t you also care that mothers will be made widows, husbands made widowers and parents who probably have their only child in the hospital now will become childless? Dear Jonathan, don’t you care for the loss of loved ones that will occur as you dance etighi with lives of Nigerians who you swore to protect? Is the continous stay of your Minister of Health more important than the hundreds of lives of Nigerians that are already dying? The court appeal made by the Minister is uncalled for, wicked and delay tactics, aimed at crucifying the citizenry. By the way, what were you thinking when you appointed the minister of health and minister of health (state) from the same NMA? Were you thinking the medical workers are fools who you can ride on and get away with? No, dear President! These are professionals who spent years in the university more than you; these are the men when my grandma had back pain that the Onyebuchi group referred us to, these are the men who without them, my late grand dad would have being buried as a blind man. It is these men who I rush to for test and diagnosis when I feel uneasy. Oh Jona; these are the very people who when our relations have gone to sleep, leaving the sick in the ward; they in their glowing white uniforms take care of them while the NMA members go to the call room, sit on the sofa, crossing their legs, sipping tea and watching DSTV. They have not asked for much but harmonization in the health sector as is done all over the world. Nigerians are saying, ‘grant them their prayers that we may not die’. Or have they not elected you and should be able to tell you what to do? If you could sack the defense minister and national security adviser, despite the days of Boko Haram insurgence, who then is the minister of health that you cannot show the way out, due to his nepotism, favoritism, high handedness and incompetence. No, I refuse to be part of a cheated generation a decayed history and a partaker of oppression. I refuse to be tagged a failure by my unborn generation, who will question my role in this moment of history, such as this. Tomorrow, it just may be my great grandchild fighting this; it might even be yours. Mr. President, this azonto dance with the medical profession is enough; this etighi dance has gone on too long. There is blood on the dance floor already and the cries of the innocent patient who may have been saved by your quick action is ascending and your name is being mentioned. When the day of reckoning comes; what would you answer for these blood? These little things matter… Fejiro Oliver, a Journalist can be reache 1 Like |
Re: Health Workers Call Off Strike by FISAYOADEX(m): 5:02am On Aug 29, 2013 |
What you guys especially the Laboratory Scientists fail to understand is that the more you go on strike the more you show the world how dispensable you truly are and you even advertise your position. What baffles me is that 99% of you opted to study Medicine but no thanks to JAMB, you weren't picked. Why then will you spitefully hate your first love? 1 Like |
Re: Health Workers Call Off Strike by Nobody: 5:33am On Aug 29, 2013 |
ACM10:You are fishing now trying to disprove the points i raised. Junior Reg where senior house officers in the UK and some other countries. Take your USMLE and cross over and see what I am talking about, nurses you people despise so much ,here are taking more advanced role so also is the pharmacist except being a surgeon. Nigeria nurses here are going for this advanced roles mostly from Msc to Doctorate. Some doctors mostly in family medicine are fighting to keep their job while the rest are going for what they believe the nurses will never do --surgery making advancement in embroyology, neurosurgery, cardiothoracic. Why not thread this part instead of thinking you can do all, from my experience the only thing that gives us an edge over these professionals is the law in Nigeria. Source for information and know what is happening outside the shoreline of Nigeria 2 Likes |
Re: Health Workers Call Off Strike by Dnaz(m): 6:02am On Aug 29, 2013 |
Dr young: You are fishing now trying to disprove the points i raised. Junior Reg where senior house officers in the UK and some other countries. stop misinforming the public, in the us and UK nurse practitioners prescribe only if dey work with a doctor that can back dem up. check ur facts |
Re: Health Workers Call Off Strike by Nobody: 6:19am On Aug 29, 2013 |
Dnaz:You are so wrong, majority of the state have given them autonomy. This is a fact stop living in denial, at least you believe that they exist. The non-doctors performing minor surgery is also giving me sleepless night but it is happening in UK. I face reality not sentiments. 1 Like |
Re: Health Workers Call Off Strike by 0key: 6:54am On Aug 29, 2013 |
Dr young: What do u consider as minor surgeries? I want to get u clearly. |
Re: Health Workers Call Off Strike by biomedixexcel(m): 7:54am On Aug 29, 2013 |
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Re: Health Workers Call Off Strike by AreaFada2: 10:04am On Aug 29, 2013 |
Osahon7: and a consultant lab technician? Dat of d pharmacist and Nurses are vry reasonable to some extent bt not lab technichians. If there is a structure to train them to consultant level, not just because they do so in UK. We don't want more half-baked professionals enjoying unprecedented freedom to treat uncontrolled. Even many consultant level doctors in Naija have a question mark over if they're well-trained enough. In a country with serious tribalism, bottom power, long-leg etc, many things have to be suspect. |
Re: Health Workers Call Off Strike by AreaFada2: 10:14am On Aug 29, 2013 |
Dnaz:. They even do a special prescribing course. Plus they can't prescribe anyhow. If for example a patient has heart failure or serious renal disease, an NP would most likely refer the patient to a doc for an entirely new drug prescription especially if cardiovascular drug. prescribing contraception, pain kilers and rewriting a prescription for a chronic condition is not same. |
Re: Health Workers Call Off Strike by JoannaSedley(f): 11:42am On Aug 29, 2013 |
They refer to specialist doctors like any other doctor will do. They prescribe after making a diagnosis and if it is something they can't handle, immediate referal. |
Re: Health Workers Call Off Strike by nuelle: 11:43am On Aug 29, 2013 |
Laalamed: Professional autonomy my foot. Dead on arrival. Grow up |
Re: Health Workers Call Off Strike by nuelle: 11:52am On Aug 29, 2013 |
0key: LoL. Dr Young educate his ignorance and that of his folk: Osahon7, Princenonny and co. Silly. |
Re: Health Workers Call Off Strike by kc007(m): 12:42pm On Aug 29, 2013 |
dapachez: What is this one saying? Do you know the reasons for the strike? Get your facts right before coming on social media to display whatever it is you have done here.who said that health workers want to head the health sector(they don't have the balls to make such demands) they have some entitlements that needs to be sorted out and also the issue of the scrapping of level 10 that was resolved by the industrial court but has not been implemented amongst many other issues. Do you think doctors can run the hospitals alone?If he thinks that doctors can run the hospitals alone, why were they not working during the strike period? Greedy people!! |
Re: Health Workers Call Off Strike by kc007(m): 12:47pm On Aug 29, 2013 |
Oduduwaboy: Nooooooooo.....! They should not return to work o. Let them keep agitating for things that don't belong to them.If u think u people can run the hospitals alone, why where u not working during the strike period? Greedy & selfish people without respect! |
Re: Health Workers Call Off Strike by princenonny(m): 2:00pm On Aug 29, 2013 |
nuelle:looooooool.....ok 'elder'nuelle pls tell us wat minor surgeries dat non-medical do in uk.....ignoramus!!!! |
Re: Health Workers Call Off Strike by princenonny(m): 2:06pm On Aug 29, 2013 |
kc007:who said d hosp didn't wrk Dnt deceive ursef and d masses their ws no vaccum in our operation. Infact we worked beta cos tins were done sharp sharp and pts were attended to beta. All d lab test were sent to centres that hv autoanalysers which gv bera results than d nonsense pcv u gv so much value to. Trust me, if d govt buys autoanalysers in every centre, u guys wud b finished. Pls go bk and strike....we r goin great without u guys |
Re: Health Workers Call Off Strike by Nobody: 3:25pm On Aug 29, 2013 |
princenonny: who said d hosp didn't wrk Dnt deceive ursef and d masses their ws no vaccum in our operation. Infact we worked beta cos tins were done sharp sharp and pts were attended to beta. All d lab test were sent to centres that hv autoanalysers which gv bera results than d nonsense pcv u gv so much value to. Trust me, if d govt buys autoanalysers in every centre, u guys wud b finished. Pls go bk and strike....we r goin great without u guysU are insultive. After many years of supposedly quality education, you still cannot pass out information without including derogatory words to the maximum, keeps me wondering. You can do better pls, it does not speak well of u cos u are sounding rather helpless, frustrated to give a few examples. Please! 1 Like |
Re: Health Workers Call Off Strike by QEFRAN6: 5:07pm On Aug 29, 2013 |
ACM10: The law by default recognized doctors as the head of a health institution. Only doctors are taken to court in the event of patient's mismanagement. Therefore, the doctors hv inalienable right to head a health institution. If the health workers are to share doctors responsibilities, they should be equally prepared to share the blame. Y won't they. Be the ones taken to court wen they mismanage a patient? Shld others pay for dia crimes..NO. They shd learn to be deligent and more careful in their duties just as other proffesionals do to avoid court,SIMPLE. Secondly,who said they have the right to head other proffessional bodies?..if they want to head everywhere in the hospital,they shd b prepared to head the cleaners,security,works,admin and other sub units in the hospital. ...Sometimes I wonder why they r scared of other proffessional bodies. 1 Like |
Re: Health Workers Call Off Strike by Nobody: 5:21pm On Aug 29, 2013 |
the truth is that nurses and pharmacists are being licenced to do jobs traditional in doctors domain. consultant lab scientists have been trained by RCPath to do jobs of pathologists. this reform is due to increasing health care cost and shortages of doctors. in nigeria there is no shortages of doctors. many doctors are jobless and being paid peanut even by fellow doctors.a in norway midwife works independtly of obstetrician however midwife is liable to be sue as for doctor.these countries have tight regulatory system. for example pharmacists or nurses not licencing to prescribe must not try it. usa has the code for all prescribers. prescribing pharmacists ,np,physcian assistants are licenced only to work as primary health care providers not in secondary and tertiary care. my advice for medical elders is to reposition medical profession.other health workers would soon close gap.it is a reality. that is why i say what nma and mdcn need to work for professional autonomy. for example there are drug dispensing doctors in uk and many part of world.if all health care workers are getting the same salaries then medical students and young doctors should orient to work as nurses. pathologists should run the tests and clinical pharmacologists handle dispensing of drugs. nma and mdcn should fight so that doctors can be licencing and regulating practice of medical assistants who can care for patients. national medical college should not only award fellowships but introduce diploma programme in medical assistant, dispensing technicians,imaging technicians and so on. they should have register and regulate what they do. THİS İS MY OPİNİON. SHUN ABUSE. 1 Like |
Re: Health Workers Call Off Strike by QEFRAN6: 5:23pm On Aug 29, 2013 |
0key: Some people don't understand what it means to b a consultant. A medical consultant is a doctor that specializes in a particular area of medicine or surgery. That is why u have neurologist, cardiologist, urologist, cardothoraxic surgeon, orthopaedic surgeon, ophthalmologist etc. These specialists have different roles they play in teaching hospitals and FMCs, and they don't encroach on one another's field. So, d reason for doctors to b consultants is not disputed. Coming over to health workers who are clamouring to b consultants, are they going to perform the same work or their work is going to b divided. For eg, in pharmacy department, if they have consultants, what would b their job description? Are they all going to perform the same function (i.e. compounding and dispensing of drugs) or is there any special thing one consultant is going to do different from another one? Hahahahahaha!wow see display of ignorance in high order...pls better park well cos a doctor knws nothg(shikum) about medical laboratory...if they do,they won't be sending specimen for urgent culture and expect the result immediately after few minutes,they won't be requesting for antibiotics sensitivity were there was no growth after culturing a sample (simply because they belif the result of every sample they sent to the lab for culture should have antibiotic sensitivity were they can mak prescriptions)...and many more,pls let me not expose u guys here...Learn to talk on were u hav ideas abt and stop encroaching at other teritories cos ul be LOST. |
Re: Health Workers Call Off Strike by Nobody: 5:32pm On Aug 29, 2013 |
princenonny: who said d hosp didn't wrk Dnt deceive ursef and d masses their ws no vaccum in our operation. Infact we worked beta cos tins were done sharp sharp and pts were attended to beta. All d lab test were sent to centres that hv autoanalysers which gv bera results than d nonsense pcv u gv so much value to. Trust me, if d govt buys autoanalysers in every centre, u guys wud b finished. Pls go bk and strike....we r goin great without u guys that is what a clinical pathologist says about use of autoanalyzer and point of care testing. this would stop all the nonsense. if doctors could fight for professional autonomy next things we want is to classify hospitals. patients should choose if they want pharmacists hospital,doctors hospitals,mls hospitals,nurses hospitals and so on. since all workers can do and get the same salaries. all existing public hospitals should be divided among health care professions. for example uch may serve as nursing hospital,luth for mls,unth for doctors etc. i think this would stop the mess. JUST MY THOUGHT. |
Re: Health Workers Call Off Strike by Nobody: 5:36pm On Aug 29, 2013 |
QEFRAN6:did he abuse u?no. i now realize that most people that have nothing to say uses abuse be it physical or verbal to drive ur point.Are u saying pathologists do not work in laboratory? |
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