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| Re: T.B. Joshua Doesn't Support Military Action Against Syria by uzoexcel(m): 11:40am On Sep 05, 2013 |
I will just put up a short write up on our idea of a man-of-God and also religion RELIGION AND ITS ROLE IN NIGERIA Our underatanding of the duty of a man of God is really weird especially when one is a Nigerian and i seriously think its a big problem for us.(I am a xtian so dont accuse me of been against religion). Why arent our spiritual leaders tackling and denouncing issues having to do with tribalism and even bad government policies which impact on the life of their flock? There will be nothing wrong if my/your pastor takes a stand and say Mr minister of transport, why are the roads in ABC local government bad?Why are our children at home when they should be in school? Staying in the UK, you come to understand that we Nigerians dont know the difference between what God should do and what Government should do for us;we attribute everything to God.... I once got on a bus years ago enroute Enugu from Portharcourt... There was a pastor who stood up to pray and told everyone to pray against the spirit of blood sucking demons/witches/wizards on the road that cause accidents...After a while i couldnt take it any longer and told him to shut his trap and to stop using religion to blackmail people as thatz what we suffer in Nigeria...A blind man knows that these roads are bad and are death traps and ur driver has to move from one lane to another to avoid portholes popping up everywhere..Why wouldnt there be accidents?Why wouldnt there be loss of lives?I asked the pastor 'who is your minister of transport/works?' and he had no idea...The politicians are the witches/wizards....ThIS episode typically summarizes the attitude of every Nigerian to matters of the nation.. Here in the UK, i dont need to start praying against road accidents cos the governments make sure there is not a single porthole in any major road and you have the right to sue them if you suffer any accident..THAT IS GOVERNMENT'S WORK AND NOT GOD'S WORK..Have we asked ourselves that why is it that its usually underdeveloped countries that talk of demons/witches..The USA,Russia,Germany are worse 'sinners' than us but they are world powers?China doesnt have any religion but they taking over the world including Nigeria? Another issue lies with the emphasis on 'sowing seeds' thingy and other convoluted messages which arent designed to change or improve the life of the citizenry one bit...Even Jesus Christ took matters in his hands and was furious with the peeps misusing the temple for trading activities..He voiced out against the pharisees,sadduceess, rulers etc..ditto for other prophets like Elijah/Elisha/etc who never failed to reprimand the politicians/rulers of their time whenever they erred.How many of these pastors have ever called the Government or minister of roads and transport or minister of education etc on the ongoing issues in their various sectors which are affecting the lives of nigerians...Why will a pastor just start preaching and emphasizing on 'been filled with the holy spirit'/'tithing' when one quarter of his flock are students who are at home cos ASUU is on strike and he wont for once condemn the people in charge?The people are his flock..A pastor is talking about building a 3km podium and asking his flock to donate thousands and millions for that?Is that what the people need?aOur pastors now go on private jets while half of the flock cant afford a car?And if his excuse is that he has to get to places where he is needed on time, why has he never condemned the minister of avaition or whoever is in charge to boost/better the services of the airlines?Do they ever ask themselves what Jesus wouldav done? For those who talk about men of God and saying we should not judge...see the link below and compare to our modern day pastors to see the difference!!!So many of us forget that Martin Luther King Junior was a baptist minister. If he was a Nigerian pastor, would he have stood still while Nigeria continues failing everyday? He was killed for his belief but he will forever be remembered in history...You tell me? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther_King,_Jr. This is another link also by a white man on how Martin Luther KIng Junior changed his life.I will briefly summarize 'Between that racially appalling world and this racially imperfect one strode Martin Luther King. We don’t know if the world would have changed without him, but we do know he was a rod in the hand of God. He was used in the mighty hand of Providence to change the world so that the most appalling, blatant, degrading, public expressions of racism have gone away. Martin Luther King, Jr. gave his life to change the world. And toward the end he was increasingly aware that “the Movement” would cost him his life. The night before he was assassinated by James Earl Ray outside room 306 of the Lorraine Motel in Memphis on April 4, 1968, he preached at the Bishop Charles Mason Temple. He had come to Memphis to support the black sanitation workers. For a brief window of time — just long enough — MLK was able to use his voice to restrain violence and overcome hate: “We are masters in our nonviolent movement in disarming police forces. They don't know what to do.” He kindled a kind of fire that no dogs could quench and no fire hoses could put out. It was “a dangerous kind of unselfishness.” Like the Good Samaritan. “The Levite asked, ‘If I stop to help this man, what will happen to me?’ But the Good Samaritan reversed the question: ‘If I do not stop to help this man, what will happen to him?’ So dangerous it would cost MLK his life. And he saw it coming. That morning there was a bomb threat on his plane from Atlanta to Memphis. He felt it coming. So he closed his sermon prophetically: 'We’ve got some difficult days ahead. But it really doesn’t matter with me now, because I’ve been to the mountaintop. And I don’t mind. Like anybody, I would like to live a long life — longevity has its place. But I'm not concerned about that now. I just want to do God’s will. And He’s allowed me to go up to the mountain. And I’ve looked over, and I’ve seen the Promised Land. I may not get there with you. But I want you to know tonight, that we, as a people, will get to the Promised Land. And so I’m happy tonight; I’m not worried about anything; I’m not fearing any man. Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord. Ten hours later he was dead. http://www.desiringgod.org/blog/posts/martin-luther-king-changed-my-world-and-i-am-thankful https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFcbpGK9_aw This is my idea of a man of God...I give kudos to the Anglican,methodist,catholic priests and also pastor tunde bakare and chris okotie who at least condemn injustices/bad policies in the system and take a stand on issues...Whats ur pastors'/Imam/PaganLeader's stand on boko haram, ASUU strike, bad roads, fuel subsidy?I rest my case. TalkNews: T. B. Joshua on September 1, 2013, Sunday, revealed his stance on the possible strike on Syria. 3 Likes |
| Re: T.B. Joshua Doesn't Support Military Action Against Syria by vanunu: 11:46am On Sep 05, 2013 |
The US should act fast to avoid further lost of lives, they should not mind senseless people. Had the world acted fast in Rwanda, Sudan and Biafra, 5milion people wouldn't have lost their lives. We are all living witness of how Ecomog saved lives in Liberia, Sierra Leone and Ivory coast. |
| Re: T.B. Joshua Doesn't Support Military Action Against Syria by Delafruita(m): 11:53am On Sep 05, 2013 |
NO LONG TIN: I'm not for or against TB Joshua (as always) but I support him, when he says the Arab league should talk to its 'brother' to end the civil warmany a time,people comment on issues based on the present perceived reality and not based on what led to the present.the current. Syrian crisis is a direct offshoot of the boazizi immolation.that act in itself was just the spark to ignite longheld desires to run over syria. syria is a predominantly sunni nation in a region with majority shiite population.despite hafez al assad'd strong control of the country and his insistence that his sin get western education before succeeding him,it was certain bashar would have enormous opposition to contend with.before the boazizi self-immolation,syria was a relatively calm country when compared to its neighbours even though there had never been any love lost with isreal,the west and other arab nations especially saudi arabia. in the beginning of the crisis,it was clear the purpose of the opposition was nothing short of getting Assad out of office.its no secret that the negotiations between hafez and barak regarding the return of syrian lands didn't yield much fruit before hafez died though it was no secret that barak stalled thos talks till hafez had to withdraw.the reality is isreal and the west have longed for an opportunity to take control of syria.assad might not be the perfect leader but its hypocritical of the west to support and arm the rebels against the regime of assad. the US has refused to wait for the findings of the UN committee that went to ascertain who used chemical weapons.there have been claims that the sarin gas was transported from turkey and used by the rebels but rather than wait for conclusive evidence,they want to wage war whether with boots on the ground or without.that was the same way they claimed there was evidence of WMDs in iraq and used that as excuse to invade. 1 Like |
| Re: T.B. Joshua Doesn't Support Military Action Against Syria by born9ice: 11:56am On Sep 05, 2013 |
.....your opinions dont count. |
| Re: T.B. Joshua Doesn't Support Military Action Against Syria by hikmoj(m): 12:02pm On Sep 05, 2013 |
Caleboha: Some muslims blame America for everything that happens in the world today. They blaim America for protests in Tunisia, protests against Hosni Mubarak, protests for Hosni Mubarak, Protests for Moh'd Morsi, protest against Moh'd Morsi, destruction of churches in Egypt, War in Libya, destruction of lives by boko haram, use of chemical weapons in syria, supporting alqaeda rebels in syria. It hardly makes logical sense but they just find a way of connecting the dots and placing America at the epicentre of all ills in the world. I don't blame them though, they've been tought from infancy to hate America no matter what. America has gained nothing in terms of public image from all her sacrifice. They should therefore stay out of Syrian war even if a nuclear bomb explodes there. Even when children and women die in their thousands of sarin gas they should stay out of it. Let us all suffocate in the stench that will rise from the syrian war. Do you think America is very happy fighting on the side of Alqaeda rebels- her worst enemylet me draw ur attention 2 one act of America &tel me her motive behind it.america invaded iraq over acquisition of weapon of mass destruction dat same america announced 2 d world dat Iraq didnt acquire such a thing they went ahead 2 excute sadam on d day we were celebratin eid el kabir,why on sallah day?d day muslims slaughter animals,did dey use him as a special sallah package 2 d muslim world? Only God knows d ulterior Motive of america &HE alone is d impartial judge.on all d global crisis america hands are not clean. 1 Like |
| Re: T.B. Joshua Doesn't Support Military Action Against Syria by afosam4real(m): 12:03pm On Sep 05, 2013 |
moscobabs: But my own Oracle told me on that same sunday that the war will reduce the USA ego because Russia and China Armies will help Syria to destroy US army |
| Re: T.B. Joshua Doesn't Support Military Action Against Syria by FOLYKAZE(m): 12:04pm On Sep 05, 2013 |
cashkid18: hmmmm...all i can see is end time war many people like this kid are sick in Nigeria. What is end time? I started seeing this crap "end time" on NL recently. GET OVER IT. THE WORLD WILL NEVER END. STOP READING BIBLE UPSIDE DOWN LIKE TYPICAL NIGERIA PASTORS. Nigeria can not develop cos people like you think the world will end soon. People are ignorant to invest or plan for the longest future cos they think end time has come. This reminds me of 1991. People started wasting their money and resources cos of a silly prophesy of end time. Just like Korea in the '50's and Vietnam and Cuba in the '60's. Every time a conflict rears its ugly head, WW3 is about to start. Rubbish. |
| Re: T.B. Joshua Doesn't Support Military Action Against Syria by FOLYKAZE(m): 12:06pm On Sep 05, 2013 |
Shut up, Prophet of doom. We all know this..... |
| Re: T.B. Joshua Doesn't Support Military Action Against Syria by Frankey369(m): 12:08pm On Sep 05, 2013 |
Believe it or you leave it!!! PROPHET TB JOSHUA is God sent!!! People like you guyz that comdem still later regret doing so! By the way a prophet is not respected in his home, JESUS SAID SO!!! Even the whites and other african countries regard him more than NIGERIANs!!! What a PITY! 1 Like |
| Re: T.B. Joshua Doesn't Support Military Action Against Syria by jpphilips(m): 12:19pm On Sep 05, 2013 |
vanunu: The US should act fast to avoid further lost of lives, they should not mind senseless people. Had the world acted fast in Rwanda, Sudan and Biafra, 5milion people wouldn't have lost their lives. We are all living witness of how Ecomog saved lives in Liberia, Sierra Leone and Ivory coast. looooooloooooooolooooooloooooooloooool |
| Re: T.B. Joshua Doesn't Support Military Action Against Syria by pof600: 12:21pm On Sep 05, 2013 |
You gullible Nigerians, no one cares about the personal opinions of T.B Joshua. It's laughable to even suggest he has any idea about foreign policy. Your God in the sky doesn't exist either. |
| Re: T.B. Joshua Doesn't Support Military Action Against Syria by khattab02: 12:29pm On Sep 05, 2013 |
Frankey369: Believe it or you leave it!!! PROPHET TB JOSHUA is God sent!!!Prophet indeed! I no fit laff.what the characteristics of a prophet? Is it miracles and visions or prophecies? Well, if going by that, then I refer you to matthew 24:24. |
| Re: T.B. Joshua Doesn't Support Military Action Against Syria by Slowvenom(m): 12:31pm On Sep 05, 2013 |
Anytin u wnt 2 kno pray n God will reveal it 2 u, incase if He dosnt kno dat u r sef from dat tin. Lets b wise |
| Re: T.B. Joshua Doesn't Support Military Action Against Syria by andyanders: 12:35pm On Sep 05, 2013 |
cool4ny: I pity your ignorance and know that you do not know the things of the spirit when the prophets of God speaks. Prophet T.B.Joshua is not like your common prophets you get on the street. Have you seen him spreading an advert of his ministry on the streets of Lagos or elsewhere? Be careful. Just object to what he said, but do not call him a lair because he spoke the mind of God and when you insult the words of genuine prophets of God, you are insulting God and not the prophets you look at and thereby laying a curse on yourself. |
| Re: T.B. Joshua Doesn't Support Military Action Against Syria by pof600: 12:46pm On Sep 05, 2013 |
andyanders: It's you who's ignorant. Your God doesn't exist. |
| Re: T.B. Joshua Doesn't Support Military Action Against Syria by jpphilips(m): 12:54pm On Sep 05, 2013 |
hikmoj: let me draw ur attention 2 one act of America &tel me her motive behind it.america invaded iraq over acquisition of weapon of mass destruction dat same america announced 2 d world dat Iraq didnt acquire such a thing they went ahead 2 excute sadam on d day we were celebratin eid el kabir,why on sallah day?d day muslims slaughter animals,did dey use him as a special sallah package 2 d muslim world? You did have a point but you buttressed it rather myopically. Sadam Husein was not killed for possession of WMD, he was killed for the genocide of ethnic Kurd and Shiite moslems (your own people under the same Allah). what makes you think that Justice wouldn't take the pleasure of eid el kabir? It is laughable to hear a moslem rise to the defense of Saddam that murdered his fellow moslems in his Stalin styled executions, which took the life of innocent women and children. Today, Assad is on a killing spree and you moslems wont call him to order just like all nations stood up against hitler when he ran amok, when he is caught and used as a "sallah package"( permit me to borrow your words) you will come here to complain. the Dujail massacre of 1982 is still fresh in our minds and you think he will get the pleasure of an eid el kabir? oh! please, give your skull a break and use the brain inside it. On the other hand, i dont think it is in America's interest fighting alongside the rebels who have terror links, what America should do if they are fighting a genuine cause is to take control of security at the civilian refugee camps and escort safely people who want to reunite with these safe zones, anything short of that is buffoonery, because after arming the rebels like they did in libya, Mali crises became inevitable. 1 Like |
| Re: T.B. Joshua Doesn't Support Military Action Against Syria by andyanders: 12:55pm On Sep 05, 2013 |
pof600: I know I have a God that exists and I ask Him to forgive your ignorance. 1 Like |
| Re: T.B. Joshua Doesn't Support Military Action Against Syria by Frankey369(m): 1:01pm On Sep 05, 2013 |
khattab02: Prophet indeed! I no fit laff.what the characteristics of a prophet? Is it miracles and visions or prophecies? Well, if going by that, then I refer you to matthew 24:24. My dear, am not saying there are no false prophets, there are ALOT of them! But the bible says in 1 john 4:1-3, that not all message is from God, but let us test the spirit to know if it's of God... The question now- how do we know the spirit of God... Then go to Galatians 5:22, the answer is ther... So dear brothers and sisters always test the spirit and whatever we hear or see on anywhere should always be examined in the light of God's word. |
| Re: T.B. Joshua Doesn't Support Military Action Against Syria by Frankey369(m): 1:05pm On Sep 05, 2013 |
pof600: His steadfast love for you never ceaseth, my dear dont grieve the holy spirit of God |
| Re: T.B. Joshua Doesn't Support Military Action Against Syria by livethinme: 1:09pm On Sep 05, 2013 |
Frankey369: Do you examine everything in the light of God's word? |
| Re: T.B. Joshua Doesn't Support Military Action Against Syria by Lamasta(m): 1:12pm On Sep 05, 2013 |
Just Observing...... |
| Re: T.B. Joshua Doesn't Support Military Action Against Syria by livethinme: 1:13pm On Sep 05, 2013 |
andyanders: On the one hand you're saying that false prophets exist, on the other you are passionately defending someone who many believe is one (i'll admit that many believe he isnt). You then said 'Have you seen him spreading an advert of his ministry on the streets of Lagos or elsewhere?' < Should we use that as a litmus test for 'common' prophets? Furthermore, surely the way you spoke about common prophets means that you are degrading them in some way? Doesn't that mean you're also degrading God's servants by calling these people you called prophets 'common' and comparing them to one man? |
| Re: T.B. Joshua Doesn't Support Military Action Against Syria by linearity: 1:23pm On Sep 05, 2013 |
I am not in any way against what was just attributed to the T.B Joshua... In General, when I see and hear the responses of Christians towards wars and the rumors of wars...I find it hypocritical and unbelieving. The Bible clearly says, these are the signs of the end time the coming of the lord and that these things must surely precede the coming of the Lord...I thought when these things start coming to past, the Christians will be joyous not that people and properties are going to be destroyed, but that the Lord coming. Is praying against war not praying against the Bible and the very hope of Christians, which is the Lord's coming? or Christians do not truly believe what they are preaching? It is just like praying that Sinners should not be burn in Hell Fire because of the resulting unbearable pains. I am not in any way advocating for wars, in fact I am in no position to do that; I am just saying that Christians should believe the Bible that clearly stated that wars are necessary and unavoidable evil. Jesus himself said, in this world, you shall have no peace and he was not talking to sinners; he was talking to his disciples....Today's Christians want all the Peace they can get on earth...Sometime I can't bring myself to identify with worthy projects like..."Pray for World Peace" without disbelieving the Bible...The only 'World Peace" I know of is the 1000 reign of Christ on Earth, but that is not the goal of the various 'World Peace' initiatives and prayer sessions... The Bible said, when these things that I have spoken about come to past, you should take comfort in the Lord..we were not instructed to Pray against them...How can man even pray against God's own prophecy, the actual thing that God have ordained that will take place... |
| Re: T.B. Joshua Doesn't Support Military Action Against Syria by Nobody: 1:26pm On Sep 05, 2013 |
andyanders: You pity my ignorance...lol T.B Joshua is the biggest con man. What do u think he is doing with all these doom prophesies? It is call Advert!!. He is smart but not from God. Prophesy is not telling us what we know, he didnt say anything new. The guy na sharp man. |
| Re: T.B. Joshua Doesn't Support Military Action Against Syria by Frankey369(m): 1:36pm On Sep 05, 2013 |
Do you examine everything in the light of God's word?[/quote] BY HIS GRACE; YES![b][quote author=livethinme] |
| Re: T.B. Joshua Doesn't Support Military Action Against Syria by CharliParker: 1:49pm On Sep 05, 2013 |
Let us listen to the prophet of God Pls my People |
| Re: T.B. Joshua Doesn't Support Military Action Against Syria by samuelfemo(m): 2:00pm On Sep 05, 2013 |
cjrane:God knows it all |
| Re: T.B. Joshua Doesn't Support Military Action Against Syria by FOLYKAZE(m): 2:05pm On Sep 05, 2013 |
Physical slavery is outlawed, but how about mental slavery? Even the most advanced societies are practicing mental slavery and their main tool is mind programming. Never underestimate the power of mind programming. How else do you think, governments send their citizens to war, killing themselves and thousands of innocent people, while having them thinking that they are brave and patriotic? If mind programming can send people to their own deaths, it can be used to change your life. Set your mind free! - Med Yones |
| Re: T.B. Joshua Doesn't Support Military Action Against Syria by andyanders: 2:05pm On Sep 05, 2013 |
cool4ny: You call Prophet T.B.Joshua conman? I have seen your types that said same thing and ended up coming for deliverance and asking for forgiveness. So you can rant and call him names, but NOTE this, the man, prophet T.B. Joshua CANNOT respond to your likes. I still pray that God in His infinite mercy forgive you because you are spiritually blind. |
| Re: T.B. Joshua Doesn't Support Military Action Against Syria by Nobody: 2:12pm On Sep 05, 2013 |
andyanders: ooooooo.....am scared..ooooo. i didnt call him a conman...i said THE BIGGEST CONMAN, 419, CON ARTIST. 1 Like |
| Re: T.B. Joshua Doesn't Support Military Action Against Syria by andyanders: 2:19pm On Sep 05, 2013 |
cool4ny: Let your word stand before you in the presence of God Almighty and you will be judged according to your word. |
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