Damn!
Where was i when this thread was trending?
Up GEJ.
Fresh air!!

Those who said GEJ is an earthworm with out a backbone can see that the earthworm has an in-built spring that propels it.

Jonah Jang's faction of the NGF secretariat should also be sealed... Umu anu!

stopit: Arrant nonsence.how can a group of bigots give codition that the only way peace can remain in the party is for the president not to recontest just imagine and there are doing this cos of their selfish ambition.Even the so called Ameachi have ambition of being the VP.
But why not wait let the primaries decides who is their presidential candidate.Inshort what is even the contribugtion of the North to Nigeria apart from their large numbers,let them try to work very well in their states first so that their deeds can speak for them.

Did he agree to this in 2011? Simple. If he did, it is natural that those privy to that agreement will ask him to honour what he knowingly agreed to.

if Zoning and power shift has always being part of the practice of PDP, then why are we condemning northerners for tryingt to enforce it when it was enforced for a southerner in 1999. I suppose they were not bigots then.

software man:
Did he agree to this in 2011? Simple. If he did, it is natural that those privy to that agreement will ask him to honour what he knowingly agreed to.

if Zoning and power shift has always being part of the practice of PDP, then why are we condemning northerners for tryingt to enforce it when it was enforced for a southerner in 1999. I suppose they were not bigots then.

Who or what is a southerner. Power was not zoned to the south in 1999 it was zoned to the Yoruba. Not the Ibo Not the Edo Not the Efik Not The Ijaw. It is dishonest to say power was zoned to the South. There has NEVER been anything like SOUTH in Nigerian politics rather we have had North East and West so if power was zoned to Yoruba next it should be open to EVERYONE.

It's unconstitutional for police to sea-off the secretariat of the newPDP.for it's constitutional for any party member to decamp to any party of his choice when his former is in crisis.And jonathan has no constitutional right to intimidate the new PDP.

omonnakoda: Who or what is a southerner. Power was not zoned to the south in 1999 it was zoned to the Yoruba. Not the Ibo Not the Edo Not the Efik Not The Ijaw. It is dishonest to say power was zoned to the South. There has NEVER been anything like SOUTH in Nigerian politics rather we have had North East and West so if power was zoned to Yoruba next it should be open to EVERYONE.

The rotational agreement in the PDP is based on the north and south agreement. Please just check your facts. The zone it goes to is secondary.

The operative issue here is this: does PDP practice zoning and rotation, not only for the presidency but also for all elective offices?

If the answer is yes. Then you cannot say the northerners in PDP are bigots for insisting it is their turn. That is the angle am m coming from.

Good job, Mr President

software man:
The rotational agreement in the PDP is based on the north and south agreement. Please just check your facts. The zone it goes to is secondary.

The operative issue here is this: does PDP practice zoning and rotation, not only for the presidency but also for all elective offices?

If the answer is yes. Then you cannot say the northerners in PDP are bigots for insisting it is their turn. That is the angle am m coming from.

Did you see the agreement or did you sign.

There is nothing ike south in Nigeria . Which Zone ?
The so called zones are a fiction and fraud. If you want to talk of zones you must do a National conference. You hear Arewa all the time have you ever heard of a Southern Nigeria Political meeting. Did Southern Nigeria agree on Obasanjo?
There is not enough information to determine if the PDP practices zoning e.g in Delta state Ibori handed over to his cousin .Was that zoning. How did Yar'adua emerge was it by zoning if so share the evidence for this

That is the North's agenda, this whole talk of zoning. The North West and the East is the basis on which our Founding father agreed Independence. How can the North then decide to merge East and West. Which Ibo man or Ijaw man signe up to that arrangement. Please name them

One Aboki will just wake up one day and tell you there are 6 "geopolitical zones and there is power rotation from North to South Why not rotate from East to West.

The reality is power was ceded to Yoruba because of JUNE 12.
Any discussion of zoning should happen AFTER with very clear rules and agreement.
The position should be that after resolving the June 12 problem we press the RESET button.

e.g if we say power must rotate from North to South would it be acceptable to move power from Olusegun Obasanjo to Bukola Saraki
Power rotation cannot be agreed in the night it must be done in broad daylight

Is long overdue..

omonnakoda:
Did you see the agreement or did you sign.

There is nothing ike south in Nigeria . Which Zone ?
The so called zones are a fiction and fraud. If you want to talk of zones you must do a National conference. You hear Arewa all the time have you ever heard of a Southern Nigeria Political meeting. Did Southern Nigeria agree on Obasanjo?
There is not enough information to determine if the PDP practices zoning e.g in Delta state Ibori handed over to his cousin .Was that zoning. How did Yar'adua emerge was it by zoning if so share the evidence for this

That is the North's agenda, this whole talk of zoning. The North West and the East is the basis on which our Founding father agreed Independence. How can the North then decide to merge East and West. Which Ibo man or Ijaw man signe up to that arrangement. Please name them

One Aboki will just wake up one day and tell you there are 6 "geopolitical zones and there is power rotation from North to South Why not rotate from East to West.

The reality is power was ceded to Yoruba because of JUNE 12.
Any discussion of zoning should happen AFTER with very clear rules and agreement.
The position should be that after resolving the June 12 problem we press the RESET button.

e.g if we say power must rotate from North to South would it be acceptable to move power from Olusegun Obasanjo to Bukola Saraki
Power rotation cannot be agreed in the night it must be done in broad daylight

Honestly, i don't like engaging in subjective arguments.
if you say there is nothing like zoning and rotation in PDP , then you are entitled to your opinion.

if you say that the country is not basically divided into north and south with the north comprising of north east, north west and north central zones while the south is basically divided into south west,south east and south south zones ,you are also entitled to your opinion.

What is obvious is that all above are easily verifiable facts.it does not matter if anyone agrees with it or not.

As for the agreement i mentioned earlier, you are missing point. once we agree zoning and rotation exist in PDP, then you cannot accuse any group for agitating that it is their turn.

That was the point i was making.

software man:

Honestly, i don't like engaging in subjective arguments.
if you say there is nothing like zoning and rotation in PDP , then you are entitled to your opinion.

if you say that the country is not basically divided into north and south with the north comprising of north east, north west and north central zones while the south is basically divided into south west,south east and south south zones ,you are also entitled to your opinion.

What is obvious is that all above are easily verifiable facts.it does not matter if anyone agrees with it or not.

As for the agreement i mentioned earlier, you are missing point. once we agree zoning and rotation exist in PDP, then you cannot accuse any group for agitating that it is their turn.

That was the point i was making.

Your point is pointless because we do not agree zoning and rotation exists in PDP . I gave the example of Ibori . Dela state is diverse enough for zoning to be verifiable.
if you don't like "subjective" arguments as you call them naff off from nairaland and spare us your arrogance.
if your facts are easily verifiable substantiate them.
The reality is there is no consensus on the existence of so called zones. Northerners contested against Obasanjo when he went for his second term so there is no formal zoning arrangement that has been put before the public EVER. Any arrangement is purported,currently disputed and unverifiable

jamace: Those who said GEJ is an earthworm with out a backbone can see that the earthworm has an in-built spring that propels it.

i suppose you, and the many jonathan apologist on this forum, are asumming that jonathan has finally decided to take the fight to his enemies and give them hell. You don't know jonathan at all.

Please do not take my words for it. just watch jonathan's next three steps / actions and come back and tell me whether it will be consistent with that of someone who is now ready for a fight.

see. Jonathan does not have the kind of decisiveness and guts of an OBJ because he has never being his own man. most Jonathan actions depends on the advice of several people and sometimes this advice are diametrically contradictory so his fickle mindedness is always the outcome.
I will give you just one example: When the governor of sokoto state was suspended,many of the jonathan apologists on this forum engaged in the usual chest beating(as they are doing now) only for jonathan to retrace his steps some weeks later when the governor fought back.

secondly, if you notice, on the very day this matter broke out, tukur was ready for a fight; what did jonathan do? appeasement.

i have carefully studied this president's managerial and leadership style. this is how this man is. he is weak and indecisive!Most times he is confused.

This is my own personal opinion of jonathan. I will be glad when am proven wrong.

Jonathan's lack of backbone is obvious to all the people around him- friends and foe alike- and all are capitalizing on it

omonnakoda:
Your point is pointless because we do not agree zoning and rotation exists in PDP . I gave the example of Ibori . Dela state is diverse enough for zoning to be verifiable.
if you don't like "subjective" arguments as you call them naff off from nairaland and spare us your arrogance.
if your facts are easily verifiable substantiate them.
The reality is there is no consensus on the existence of so called zones. Northerners contested against Obasanjo when he went for his second term so there is no formal zoning arrangement that has been put before the public EVER. Any arrangement is purported,currently disputed and unverifiable

precisely my point. if we do not agree on the basic fact of zoning and rotation in PDP, then don't let us dissipate energy any further.
We will just end up going back and forth.
You have expressed your point of view and i have expressed mine.

software man:

precisely my point. if we do not agree on the basic fact of zoning and rotation in PDP, then don't let us dissipate energy any further.
We will just end up going back and forth.
You have expressed your point of view and i have expressed mine.

so shut up and let us have some quiet

omonnakoda: so shut up and let us have some quiet

This is a public forum. Express your views as others would come here to express theirs.
If you want to have some quiet, then just log off!

DoubleFaith: Jonah Jang's faction of the NGF secretariat should also be sealed... Umu anu!

Guy, na true you talk.

Jonathan is NOT weak and indecisive,he is only a DEMOCRAT who believes in dialogues and takes decisions in line with the wishes of the people,but since some nothern political extremists have decided to challenge him to a fight,let him deploy all his arsenals and fight them to a standstill.We are solidly behind him.

software man:
i suppose you, and the many jonathan apologist on this forum, are asumming that jonathan has finally decided to take the fight to his enemies and give them hell. You don't know jonathan at all.

Please do not take my words for it. just watch jonathan's next three steps / actions and come back and tell me whether it will be consistent with that of someone who is now ready for a fight.

see. Jonathan does not have the kind of decisiveness and guts of an OBJ because he has never being his own man. most Jonathan actions depends on the advice of several people and sometimes this advice are diametrically contradictory so his fickle mindedness is always the outcome.
I will give you just one example: When the governor of sokoto state was suspended,many of the jonathan apologists on this forum engaged in the usual chest beating(as they are doing now) only for jonathan to retrace his steps some weeks later when the governor fought back.

secondly, if you notice, on the very day this matter broke out, tukur was ready for a fight; what did jonathan do? appeasement.

i have carefully studied this president's managerial and leadership style. this is how this man is. he is weak and indecisive!Most times he is confused.

This is my own personal opinion of jonathan. I will be glad when am proven wrong.

Jonathan's lack of backbone is obvious to all the people around him- friends and foe alike- and all are capitalizing on it

Jman06: Jonathan is NOT weak and indecisive,he is only a DEMOCRAT who believes in dialogues and takes decisions in line with the wishes of the people,but since some nothern political extremists have decided to challenge him to a fight,let him deploy all his arsenals and fight them to a standstill.We are solidly behind him.

Honestly, you did not get my point.What decisiveness means is that at a point you make a decision on an issue and take consistent action in that direction.
if i may ask you, do you think Jonathan has decided on a definite line of action on PDP's break up? No.

You just watch his actions and body language in the coming days and weeks.

And when you say we are solidly behind him, who are the we?

They should seal Awusa People's Congress (APC) building as well.

Tinubu is trying to use all his money to install a proxy president by supporting Bukohari.

software man:

Honestly, you did not get my point.What decisiveness means is that at a point you make a decision on an issue and take consistent action in that direction.
if i may ask you, do you think Jonathan has decided on a definite line of action on PDP's break up? No.

You just watch his actions and body language in the coming days and weeks.

And when you say we are solidly behind him, who are the we?

"We are solidly behind him" is self explanatory.
##Team Freash Air##

ilugunboy: A detachment of armed policemen has been drafted to the secretariat of the new faction of Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) in Abuja to seal off the secretariat.



http://saharareporters.com/news-page/nigeria-police-invade-headquarters-new-pdp-abuja

A whole lot of hogwash!!!

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up GEJ!

[size=18pt]What do these rogues want?

GEJ should not contest 2015

Bamanga Tukur must step down

GEJ should call the EFCC OFF![/size]

Theives!

Clerverly: Jona is becoming ruthless!

please know that pdp is one party for if there is a new pdp they should register with inec and form a legitimate party.counterfeit is not tolerated so leave GEJ out of this matter.