In Matthew chapter 1, vs 1 to 16, it stated the genealogy of Jesus. One peculiar thing about this is that 5 women were mentioned. The rest were men. And those 5 women were harlots!

The first one is Tamar. Who is Tamar? Well, read Genesis 38:12-19 and discover her peddling her wares. She even peddled to her own father-in-law.

The second one is Rahab. Rahab was a confirmed harlot of the land of Jericho in Canaan. see Joshua 2:1

The third one is Ruth. Most people believe that Ruth had lesbian relationship with Naomi but what was without doubt was that she freely and loosely forced herself on a sleeping man like a dog on heat. Ruth 3:6-14

The fourth one is Bathsheba, the ashawo mistress of king David. She was sleeping with David even though she was married. And she even managed to get her husband murdered because she can't keep her legs closed. 2 Samuel 11:2-5

The last but not the least is Mary herself. The jury is still out on how she got knocked up but the established fact is that it was outside marriage and it wasn't done by her fiance.

So you can now begin to understand why the guy turned out the way he did and how he had this affinity and special relationship with the harlot, Mary Magdalene.

Dude be careful....

@Alfa Seltzer: People are fooled or deceived when they are presented with half-truth, twisted facts and derailed conclusions like you just did here. I pray God will open your understanding and reveal the truth to you through his Holy spirit.

So wats ur point mo'fo'? One day God'll show u dat he's truly d Almighty God.

247notire: So wats ur point mo'fo'? One day God'll show u dat he's truly d Almighty God.

You are no better than him by using such vulgar word.

Ain't the Christians suppose to lead by example? Or is it just a state of convenience?

Your God will smite you first of all, for embarrassing him like this, assuming that he's real, before doing anything else.

It is very unfortunate for you to point out this from Holy Book of God. Book of God? Anyway Luke 3:23 says : ''And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being ( as was supposed ) the son of Joesph.. Acknowledged today by a thousand million muslims that Jesus Christ (peace be upon him) was born miraculously without any male intervention; the followers of Christ created two separate genealogies for a man who had no genealogy. Between the Gospels of Matthew and Luke they give this Mighty Messenger of God sixty six fathers and grandfathers. And of these two separate lists only one name is common to these two lists and that is of Joseph the Carpenter, who does not fit in anywhere because, as Luke records above, he was only the'' SUPPOSED'' FATHER OF JESUS(PEACE BE UPON HIM).

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The third one is Ruth. Most people believe
that Ruth had lesbian relationship with Naomi
but what was without doubt was that she
freely and loosely forced herself on a sleeping
man like a dog on heat. Ruth 3:6-14

Which of the books of Ruth?

Only in peace loving christians can take this poo...

I went through all the aforementioned chapters... And I found out at the end that she didn't sleep with the man and the man actually commended her for keeping herself from youthful guys and other men.

So what the heck are you saying?

@OP, Please what are Ÿ̲̣̣̣̥ø̲̣̣̥u̶̲̥̅̊ trying †̥o prove by writin dis??

although all the things you stated are not true, my question is how does it bother you.. Are you not a satanist.

Go and worship ur satan and leave us be. or are u already tired of worshipping him..if so surrender your life to God ALmighty.

Titiluvly: @OP, Please what are Ÿ̲̣̣̣̥ø̲̣̣̥u̶̲̥̅̊ trying †̥o prove by writin dis??

Nothing. Just to give people information.

emmysenior:

Which of the books of Ruth?

Only in peace loving christians can take this poo...

I went through all the aforementioned chapters... And I found out at the end that she didn't sleep with the man and the man actually commended her for keeping herself from youthful guys and other men.

So what the heck are you saying?

I dont think you know who the OP is.

He is a satanist and worships satan the father of all lies that is why he is pouring out lies and deception here.

The Bible decribed who Alfa seltzer and his father is in John 8:44:

'44. You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.'

All the examples (lies) he quoted are false and twisted to make him look right.

You guys. I am only quoting your bible.

onechance: Dude be careful....

I am.

@op
God allowed this to show the humility in his birth..as a messiah,he should have been Born to a royal family..


All This disrespect you are showing To God because You Are an Atheist,on That judgement day you will see...you will bite your fingers and regret Of doing All this...

Alfa Seltzer: You guys. I am only quoting your bible.

u are nt quoting the bible rather u want to manipulate it for ur neferious lying schemes..

joel lala:

u are nt quoting the bible rather u want to manipulate it for ur neferious lying schemes..

Can you point out these lies?

Bros, you get mouth abi? Try go yearn this one Winner's Chapel...you will be FLAYED!

Them go use you do suya .

aManFromMars:

Can you point out these lies?

ruth never slept with the man he said she slept with after u read it up u will find out..also there was no chapter that stated ruth had a lesbian relationship wit naomi..if d op has proof let him show us.

For bathsheba case her husband died (d death was planned by david) b4 david took her into his house, so that he can marry her and fulfill his lustful desires and nt the lies the op is spreading here. She wasnt married anylonger as her husband died b4 david took her in. Read 2samuel 11 vs 26-27.

Mary was already carrying jesus via the immaculate conception of the holy spirit before she was married to joseph.. Read Mathew 1 vs18

so i can authoritatively say by the power of God Almighty that the op is a liar and his father the devil whom he worships is the father of all lies.

God i thank u for exposing nd shaming the devil

joel lala:

ruth never slept with the man he said she slept with after u read it up u will find out..also there was no chapter that stated ruth had a lesbian relationship wit naomi..if d op has proof let him show us.

For bathsheba case her husband died (d death was planned by david) b4 david took her into his house, so that he can marry her and fulfill his lustful desires and nt the lies the op is spreading here. She wasnt married anylonger as her husband died b4 david took her in. Read 2samuel 11 vs 26-27.

Mary was already carrying jesus via the immaculate conception of the holy spirit before she was married to joseph.. Read Mathew 1 vs18

so i can authoritatively say by the power of God Almighty that the op is a liar and his father the devil whom he worships is the father of all lies.

God i thank u for exposing nd shaming the devil

Did I say that Ruth slept with the man? I said she forced herself on him. Go and read the passages I quoted. She freely without invitation by the man went to the man's bed and asked the man to bang her. The man refused and handed her over to another man. She was just loosely and shamelessly going around looking for who to sleep with her. That's what I said. That's what the bible said.

As for Bathsheba, again read the passage I provided. or better still, read the whole chapter. David got his mistress pregnant while the husband was busy fighting at the war front. He recalled the husband and asked him to go home to his wife so that it would look like the pregnancy was the husband's own. But when the husband refused to go back to his house, David got him killed and married his adulterous wife. That's what the holy bible said.

As for Mary, she was the fiancee of Joseph before she got pregnant.

Matthew 1:18

18 This is how the birth of Jesus the Messiah came about: His mother Mary was pledged to be married to Joseph, but before they came together, she was found to be pregnant through the Holy Spirit.

I don't know where you get your authority from because it isn't from the bible. So you have none and either you or your bible is lying in this instance. Which one is it?

Hehehehehe.

obadiah777: YOU DO ERR @OP, EVERYTHING YOU SEE THERE IS SYMBOLIC.

There was no rahab, Ruth,or Bathsheba. They all symbolise er...er...
Yadayadayada..

Alfa Seltzer:

Did I say that Ruth slept with the man? I said she forced herself on him. Go and read the passages I quoted. She freely without invitation by the man went to the man's bed and asked the man to bang her. The man refused and handed her over to another man. She was just loosely and shamelessly going around looking for who to sleep with her. That's what I said. That's what the bible said.

As for Bathsheba, again read the passage I provided. or better still, read the whole chapter. David got his mistress pregnant while the husband was busy fighting at the war front. He recalled the husband and asked him to go home to his wife so that it would look like the pregnancy was the husband's own. But when the husband refused to go back to his house, David got him killed and married his adulterous wife. That's what the holy bible said.

As for Mary, she was the fiancee of Joseph before she got pregnant.

Matthew 1:18

18 This is how the birth of Jesus the Messiah came about: His mother Mary was pledged to be married to Joseph, but before they came together, she was found to be pregnant through the Holy Spirit.

I don't know where you get your authority from because it isn't from the bible. So you have none and either you or your bible is lying in this instance. Which one is it?

u keep shaming urself..u quoted mathew 1 vs18 but u forgot that therd was a but after the bold..why? This is to let u knw that mary had immaculate conception without her doing anything sexual with any man..also joseph knew about it and was okay with it..showing that she was no harlot as u manipulatively want it to look like..as for ruth, her mother in law gave her directions which she obeyed..ruth 3 vs3..
Nw do u knw that in Ruth 3vs 11 boaz the man in the picture made it clear to us that everyone in his town know that ruth is a virtuous woman. So hw is she a harlot. Will a harlot be knwn as a virtuous woman?.Also in verse 10, boaz words seem to suggest that due to his old age he may hav been shy in approaching her,which neccessitated ruth approaching him. And verse 14 shows that there is a precaution to avoid the possibility of anyone misunderstanding ruths action which u are trying so hard to do.

As for bathsheba, it was david that made her do what she did since david was king she had to obey..an ordinary man couldnt do to her wat king david did..this shows how quickly sin can pollute the heart of even the most noble of Gods people..and God was displeasd wit david..infact this is the first time dat david displeasd d Lord 2sam 11 vs 27..so how are they harlots?

And i get my authority from God Almighty Luke 10 vs 19..so am going to say it again that u are a manipulative and decietful liar sent 4rm the father of all lies.

joel lala:


u keep shaming urself..u quoted mathew 1 vs18 but u forgot that therd was a but after the bold..why? This is to let u knw that mary had immaculate conception without her doing anything sexual with any man..also joseph knew about it and was okay with it..showing that she was no harlot as u manipulatively want it to look like..as for ruth, her mother in law gave her directions which she obeyed..ruth 3 vs3..
Nw do u knw that in Ruth 3vs 11 boaz the man in the picture made it clear to us that everyone in his town know that ruth is a virtuous woman. So hw is she a harlot. Will a harlot be knwn as a virtuous woman?.Also in verse 10, boaz words seem to suggest that due to his old age he may hav been shy in approaching her,which neccessitated ruth approaching him. And verse 14 shows that there is a precaution to avoid the possibility of anyone misunderstanding ruths action which u are trying so hard to do.

As for bathsheba, it was david that made her do what she did since david was king she had to obey..an ordinary man couldnt do to her wat king david did..this shows how quickly sin can pollute the heart of even the most noble of Gods people..and God was displeasd wit david..infact this is the first time dat david displeasd d Lord 2sam 11 vs 27..so how is she a harlot?

Just like your master, you twist and turn in order to defend confirmed harlots. You even deliberately misquote your own holy book. And you claim things that I didn't say.

Firstly, in my op, it doesn't matter whether holy spirit or angel gabriel or whoever got mary pregnant. My point was that it wasn't her fiance. Period.

Concerning Ruth, again I never said she slept with the man. She threw herself on the man under advisement and the old man rejected her maybe because viagra hadn't been invented then. He sent her to sleep with another man. I don't see what was there to misunderstand. The man went to sleep and in the middle of the night was startled by a naked woman in his bed. The woman begged to be shagged and the man told her to try someone else, politely.

I can only laugh at your defence of Bathsheba. It wasn't her fault? She was only obeying the king? Anyway, at least you now accepted that she slept with david while her husband was still alive. Keep reading the book and opening your eyes.

Alfa Seltzer:

Just like your master, you twist and turn in order to defend confirmed harlots. You even deliberately misquote your own holy book. And you claim things that I didn't say.

Firstly, in my op, it doesn't matter whether holy spirit or angel gabriel or whoever got mary pregnant. My point was that it wasn't her fiance. Period.

Concerning Ruth, again I never said she slept with the man. She threw herself on the man under advisement and the old man rejected her maybe because viagra hadn't been invented then. He sent her to sleep with another man. I don't see what was there to misunderstand. The man went to sleep and in the middle of the night was startled by a naked woman in his bed. The woman begged to be shagged and the man told her to try someone else, politely.

I can only laugh at your defence of Bathsheba. It wasn't her fault? She was only obeying the king? Anyway, at least you now accepted that she slept with david while her husband was still alive. Keep reading the book and opening your eyes.

i showed u the verse where boaz even recognized Ruth as a virtuous woman..can a virtuous woman be a harlot? Why wasnt boaz pissed off if she was a harlot like u claim?

Also a harlot is descibed as a woman that has several sexual relationship with different MEN...but mary didnt sleep with any man b4 she met joseph..her conception was a miracle..

As for batsheba u keep making me laugh at ur falacious evidence..everyone knws that the king has power to do whatever he likes with out questions...if bathsheba was the one that at first went to david chambers nd seduced david then she would hav been the major cause..but we all knw that it was davids lust that made him order for her to be brought to his chamber.

So all u posted are nothing but fallacies and lies

joel lala:


i showed u the verse where boaz even recognized Ruth as a virtuous woman..can a virtuous woman be a harlot? Why wasnt boaz pissed off if she was a harlot like u claim?

Also a harlot is descibed as a woman that has several sexual relationship with different MEN...but mary didnt sleep with any man b4 she met joseph..her conception was a miracle..

As for batsheba u keep making me laugh at ur falacious evidence..everyone knws that the king has power to do whatever he likes with out questions...if bathsheba was the one that at first went to david chambers nd seduced david then she would hav been the major cause..but we all knw that it was davids lust that made him order for her to be brought to his chamber.

So all u posted are nothing but fallacies and lies

In any case, you made no efforts to defend Tamar and Rahab, the original harlots that transferred their ashawo genes to the rest of their lineage.

To respond to you, Boaz's opinion of her doesn't matter. What matters was her act and it is indisputable that she jumped into his bed and begged to be serviced.

I sort of agree that it seems like a miracle that a harlot would conceive.

Concerning your stance on king David and her mistress, it is like saying that Monica Lewinsky is just an innocent victim of a sex hungry president. Laughable.

Alfa Seltzer:

In any case, you made no efforts to defend Tamar and Rahab, the original harlots that transferred their ashawo genes to the rest of their lineage.

To respond to you, Boaz's opinion of her doesn't matter. What matters was her act and it is indisputable that she jumped into his bed and begged to be serviced.

I sort of agree that it seems like a miracle that a harlot would conceive.

Concerning your stance on king David and her mistress, it is like saying that Monica Lewinsky is just an innocent victim of a sex hungry president. Laughable.

tamar and rahab i will talk about them very soon by the grace of God..also like i said in respect to ruth, can one be a harlot and be virtuous? Becos boaz and the whole town knew ruth to be virtuous and respectd her for it which i posted the verse as evidence for all to see..also a harlot hav sex with various men but guess what, ruth didnt sleep with boaz dat night..BTW she just followed the orders of naomi whom she respectd.. so ur claim about her being a harlot is also false..as for mary i guess there is nothing u can show as proof that she slept wit another man b4 joseph..

Then using monica lewinsky as a frame excuse is so lame because
Monica was an official aide hired to satisfy d president desires meaning that she willingly applied for it unlike bathsheba dat was on her own but couldnt say no to the king...remember that ordinary women then did nt have much human rights to back her unlike today if she dare disobey nd disrespect the king.

All u posted from the beging of this thread is simply sardonic and false.

joel lala:


tamar and rahab i will talk about them very soon by the grace of God..also like i said in respect to ruth, can one be a harlot and be virtuous? Becos boaz and the whole town knew ruth to be virtuous and respectd her for it which i posted the verse as evidence for all to see..also a harlot hav sex with various men but guess what, ruth didnt sleep with boaz dat night..BTW she just followed the orders of naomi whom she respectd.. so ur claim about her being a harlot is also false..as for mary i guess there is nothing u can show as proof that she slept wit another man b4 joseph..

Then using monica lewinsky as a frame excuse is so lame because
Monica was an official aide hired to satisfy d president desires meaning that she willingly applied for it unlike bathsheba dat was on her own but couldnt say no to the king...remember that ordinary women then did nt have much human rights to back her unlike today if she dare disobey nd disrespect the king.

All u posted from the beging of this thread is simply sardonic and false.

Please simply answer the following questions with yes or no or just shut up:

1 - Did Ruth jump into a man's bed at night and ask for sex?
2 - Did Bathsheba sleep with David while she was still married?
3 - Did Mary have a child that was not her husband's?

If the answer to all these are yes, then they are nothing but harlots. Whatever justifications you are trying to give are irrelevant.

I await your apology of how Rahab, a biblical proclaimed Jericho harlot is not one.

@Alfa, so some of his ancestors were harlots-ok! At least he was clean and even your holy book claims that.

But the last time I checked, the founder of ur religion was a big harlot too for as at the time he died, what was the number of wives he had again? I guess he delight on what lies in between the legs of women, including a 9 year old.

Alfa Seltzer:

Please simply answer the following questions with yes or no or just shut up:

1 - Did Ruth jump into a man's bed at night and ask for sex?
2 - Did Bathsheba sleep with David while she was still married?
3 - Did Mary have a child that was not her husband's?

If the answer to all these are yes, then they are nothing but harlots. Whatever justifications you are trying to give are irrelevant.

I await your apology of how Rahab, a biblical proclaimed Jericho harlot is not one.

why should i answer ur questions when u refused to answer mine first.

iv4fb: @Alfa, so some of his ancestors were harlots-ok! At least he was clean and even your holy book claims that.

But the last time I checked, the founder of ur religion was a big harlot too for as at the time he died, what was the number of wives he had again? I guess he delight on what lies in between the legs of women, including a 9 year old.

actually @Alfa is not a muslim but a satanist

joel lala:

why should i answer ur questions when u refused to answer mine first.

The answer to your question is yes. Biblically speaking.
The same way that a just and righteous man would offer his terrified teenage daughters to anal rapists to do whatever they want with.

Alfa Seltzer:

The answer to your question is yes.

then the answer to urs is none of the above ...
As for rahab yes i admit she was a harlot nd the only harlot in ur list but still give me time to say something about her.