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Re: Reasons Why A Diplomatic Solution To The Syrian Crisis Is Unlikely by NairaMinted: 1:53am On Sep 18, 2013 |
Continuity of Agenda: Syria Catastrophe Engineered Under Bush, Executed Verbatim Under Obama https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ha1rEhovONU Wesley Clark ( US 4 Star General ) US will attack 7 countries in 5 years |
Re: Reasons Why A Diplomatic Solution To The Syrian Crisis Is Unlikely by Nobody: 2:12am On Sep 18, 2013 |
The real reason why the countries are pushing for a war is NOT for the sake of the innocents living in Syria. Its for one fundamental principle/reason in our contemporary world. There is money in war. Stockpiles of arms laying idle. Arms need to be sold, there's money to be made. 3 Likes |
Re: Reasons Why A Diplomatic Solution To The Syrian Crisis Is Unlikely by john650(m): 2:15am On Sep 18, 2013 |
I dont know why u.s and its allies hate syria so much to the estent of spreadind false flag news about assad regime. Lets think wisely and deeply: why is u.s funding those rebels/false jihadists in syria, while they are fighting those in other countries. How comes like this? The drumbeat of war is being driven by the ambitions of AIPAC (American Israel Public Affairs Committee). For those who don't know what AIPAC is, it is the lobbying arm of Israeli and Jewish interest in Washington. They have a lot of influential American politicians in their pocket. The US Congress is filled with Americans of Jewish descent, who belong to AIPAC. Senators John McCain and Lindsey Graham, though not of Jewish ancestry, are basically fronts for AIPAC. To oppose AIPAC is to loose election. There are also a lot of leading American businessmen of Jewish descent who fund the activities of AIPAC. By their positioning and strong influence over American foreign policy, virtually all American Presidents dating back to Dwight Eisenhower answer to them. So to answer your question, AIPAC, and by extension the US government believes that the only way Israel will ever have peace in the Middle East is to ensure that Israel remains the strongest nation in the region. And to accomplish this, they have to weaken every nation state that poses a direct threat to the State of Israel. It also means that sometimes the US has to work and support the enemy (rebels/jihadists) to accomplish its goal. Trust me, the relationship is only temporary as we have witnessed in Libya. As the Chinese Xinxua Government News Agency succinctly stated back in February 2013, "the United States is hiding a dagger behind a smile. In other words, while they appear to be acting out of humanitarian concern for the people of Syria, they are actually harboring hegemonistic ambitions." 6 Likes
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Re: Reasons Why A Diplomatic Solution To The Syrian Crisis Is Unlikely by 617aircav: 3:28am On Sep 18, 2013 |
One reason this war will happen. The Military Industrial Complex, which influences law makers and earns billions in wars. The people of America don't want it, we the members of the armed forces don't want. The media is portraying the rebels as freedom democracy fighters. That just makes me laugh. Anyhow, if I'm sent there I'll go. Lol. 5 Likes |
Re: Reasons Why A Diplomatic Solution To The Syrian Crisis Is Unlikely by Godsun(m): 6:23am On Sep 18, 2013 |
Why is Saudi Arabia and Qatar supporting the rebels against Assad? |
Re: Reasons Why A Diplomatic Solution To The Syrian Crisis Is Unlikely by DukeNija(m): 7:08am On Sep 18, 2013 |
25Calibre: Assad's demands are only logical, in times of uncertainty like this, it would be foolhardy to give up any leverage you might have without significant concessions from the other side. I agree with the last half of your comment. But the first paragraph is rubbish! Assad should show commitment to the peace talks and leave Isreal out of this. No one should possess chemical weapons. Russia and China will not enter into this war. Russia can only create room for diplomacy which it has done by negotiating for Syria. Assad should give up his chemical weapons and US will back down. Besides who cared about the Syrian chemical weapons possession till the civil war began? No one. All the major Arab countries are agaainst Assad, he just wants to tbe the biblical Pharaoh. |
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Re: Reasons Why A Diplomatic Solution To The Syrian Crisis Is Unlikely by lomprico(m): 7:59am On Sep 18, 2013 |
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Re: Reasons Why A Diplomatic Solution To The Syrian Crisis Is Unlikely by NairaMinted: 8:20am On Sep 18, 2013 |
Godsun: Why is Saudi Arabia and Qatar supporting the rebels against Assad? I believe this answers your question: http://www.corbettreport.com/bandar-bush-and-the-syrian-subversion/ Regional dominance, the shia /sunni divide, vested interests, greed, etc 1 Like |
Re: Reasons Why A Diplomatic Solution To The Syrian Crisis Is Unlikely by flameforx(m): 8:29am On Sep 18, 2013 |
phayvoursky: ...AND THE BIBLE RECORDED IT IN ISAIAH CHAPTER 17. And this is the quote you will use to brainwash a fellow human being into killing another, or are you forgetting that thousands will still die in the process. And u call it prophecy. So much for being a Christian. SMH |
Re: Reasons Why A Diplomatic Solution To The Syrian Crisis Is Unlikely by HolyHolla(m): 8:35am On Sep 18, 2013 |
I like your excellent write up, Op. But I want to seriously digress to the other side if the divide and give 10 cogent reasons why the US and their allies will not attack Syria for now. Yes, I believe it could still happen at a later date, but not very soon and not based on current situation. 1. An attack on Syria, America knows, would completely distabilize the whole of the Middle East and plunge the area into complete chaos and unending wars. The effect on world peace and fuel prices is making the world jittery and China is one of those nations that depend heavily on Middle East oil and they are opposed to any such development which could exert great pressure on their economy, which is presently under threat. 2. Russia has specifically warned that they would not sit down and watch US attack on Syria, particularly based on present 'evidences' provided for stigmatizing of Syria, which is chemical weapons use; the 'red line'. Russia has backed up their threat by deploying naval forces to the area to fortify their presence in the area. They have also stated that they would "respond appropriately" if there is any attack on Syria. 3. Iran and Hezbollah have specifically reiterated their preparedness to intervene in support of Assad should the US engage in a direct involvement in Syria. I believe that the US understands that they are not joking about it. The war would be carried to western fronts one way or another. We should remember that it was US involvement in Iraq and presence in Saudi Arabia and other Arab nations that birthed al Qaeda. 5. The threat of escalation of hostilities in the area on Israel, US most valued allies in the region, is very strong. Though true that efforts are underway to defend Israel, a risk of anihilation of major cities in Isrsel is not one that US would like to take. This, is the major reason why in the first place, the US has restrained Israel from attacking Iranian nuclear sites. 6. It's going to be a herculean task for the West and their allies to prove that it was the Syrian government that are culpable in the use of chemical weapons. Apart from Russian vindication of Assad over the matter, new evidence, which the West continue to ignore, continously point to Syrian Rebels and their allies, like Saudi Arabia and Qatar governments in supply and deployment of the chemicals. The evidences are becoming so obviously strong that even the Syrian Rebels are blocking UN agents commissioned to look into the chemical attacks. Obviously, they don't want the truth discovered and we should all wonder why. 7. Latest efforts to diplomatically resolve the crisis is seriously being considered by Russia and is acceptable to Syria. Russia is working on means to retrieve and destroy Syrian chemical weapons cache and though he has demanded some conditions, I don't believe Assad would insist too strongly when push comes to shove. Assad himself is looking for survival methods and this is one he will not want to miss out on. 8. Just as US has restrained their guts from attacking Iran, they also know that the risk of attacking Syria is similar. 9. Polls indicate that American public opinions are generally against any direct involvement in Syria, particularly with 'evidence' presented so far. The US would have to wait for a latter time to engage Syria in war. The UK parliament specifically opted out of any such involvement. Germany is also standing back. Only France seems to be a willing ally with the US. They would have to wait for another chance, which would offer acceptable proof of Syrian crossing a valid red line. 10. Yes, Christian analysts have generally agreed that Damascus would be completely destroyed based on biblical prophecies, but the prophecy is expected to be fulfilled by the coming Antichrist. Conclusively, I believe that the time for Syria's attack is not now as conditions are yet to rippen. 3 Likes
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Re: Reasons Why A Diplomatic Solution To The Syrian Crisis Is Unlikely by HolyHolla(m): 9:06am On Sep 18, 2013 |
kossynerule: Well the situation is not that black and white.Assad is a tyrant that has ruled Syria for a long time and he is no longer popular among his people.When the people you are leading no longer want you,the honorable thing is to step down.America has been in the fore-front of ensuring that democracy and its tenets are upheld in every country of the world,and Obama being the ruler of the free nation cannot abandon that role.In war,like politics,the only thing that remains permanent is interest.No permanent enemy.No permanent ally.and Obama needs the syrian rebels to fight Assad.So Obama aligning with the very enemy that he fights is not his fault.Circumstances change.So u guys should cut him some slacks You may be missing something out here. The western media want us to believe that Syrians are completely tired of Assad and, this may be partially true. But they also do not want the alternative presented by an Ismamist government that would be introduced by al Qaeda. This can only be obviously realized if you watch alternative news channels like Press TV, where Syrians on the streets are often interviewed for their own opinions. Already, Islamists in Syria are taking advantage of present chaos to burn churches and murder Christians. What will happen if they eventually take over? I don't like the rule of Assad. I don't like his ascencion to power by inheritance. I don't like his support for Hezbollah... in fact, there are so many things I don't like about Assad and at times when I see him on screen with his long neck stretched out, I want to puke. But this does not mean the truth must not be told. You seem to believe that US should fight Syria. I wonder what their interest in the area really is. It's the Rebels that are committing the most heinous and barbaric crimes. They molest women, cut throats, eat raw human hearts, kill parents while tying their infant children up to watch, destroy heritage sites, burn churches and slaughter Christians who refuse to convert to Islam. In this war, Assad is not guilty of such crimes, but only of military high handedness in his attempts to quell the rebel uprising. 3 Likes |
Re: Reasons Why A Diplomatic Solution To The Syrian Crisis Is Unlikely by Nobody: 9:15am On Sep 18, 2013 |
They dare not try, else third world war on point. |
Re: Reasons Why A Diplomatic Solution To The Syrian Crisis Is Unlikely by ovie1daful(m): 9:24am On Sep 18, 2013 |
donlisa: wit tomuch uniattack of US in world issues dia hegnomity wil soon come 2 an end.. let watch and c. Donlisa. Did you just write in tongues? |
Re: Reasons Why A Diplomatic Solution To The Syrian Crisis Is Unlikely by Guyman02: 9:32am On Sep 18, 2013 |
Keywords Middle East Strategies; Policy Shifts; Bush Administration; Iran; Saudi Arabia; Sunnis; Cheney, Dick (Vice-President) [/quote] Di'ck Cheney is now Joystick Cheney. Haba NL |
Re: Reasons Why A Diplomatic Solution To The Syrian Crisis Is Unlikely by HolyHolla(m): 9:52am On Sep 18, 2013 |
phayvoursky: ...AND THE BIBLE RECORDED IT IN ISAIAH CHAPTER 17. I personally find it quite amusing that those who analyze this scripture and are happy that Damascus would be in ruin as presented by chapters 1 to 3 fail to read the consequences of the reaction on Israel as stated in verses 4 to 11. Note that these verses indicate that when the prophecy of Damascus' destruction is fulfilled, the subsequent chain of reactions would lead to devastation of Israel and finally, verses 12 to 14 confirm that a host of nations would come against and occupy Israel causing great grief to the Israelis. Why are Zionist Christians (those who support all Isreali actions without any reservation) wishing the invasion of Syria would come quick? Realizing that the events come together makes me wonder why some so much want the US to attack and destroy Syria now just because of Assad. Judging by these verses of Bible, destruction as well as great anguish for Jerusalem follows immediately after!!! Do you really, indeed wish and pray "... for the peace of Jerusalem"? It calls for a deeper understanding. 1 Like |
Re: Reasons Why A Diplomatic Solution To The Syrian Crisis Is Unlikely by Nobody: 9:55am On Sep 18, 2013 |
Bad_ass_niggga: you're a bigger phool for quoting that lengthy stuff... THE BAD A$$ NIGGA SERVING IT TO THE DUMB A$$ NIGGA LMAO DID ANY1 ELSE SEE THIS? |
Re: Reasons Why A Diplomatic Solution To The Syrian Crisis Is Unlikely by Nobody: 9:57am On Sep 18, 2013 |
kossynerule: Well the situation is not that black and white.Assad is a tyrant that has ruled Syria for a long time and he is no longer popular among his people.When the people you are leading no longer want you,the honorable thing is to step down.America has been in the fore-front of ensuring that democracy and its tenets are upheld in every country of the world,and Obama being the ruler of the free nation cannot abandon that role.In war,like politics,the only thing that remains permanent is interest.No permanent enemy.No permanent ally.and Obama needs the syrian rebels to fight Assad.So Obama aligning with the very enemy that he fights is not his fault.Circumstances change.So u guys should cut him some slacks JEEZ DUDE! U SOUNDED LIKE A ROBOT BACK THERE 1 Like |
Re: Reasons Why A Diplomatic Solution To The Syrian Crisis Is Unlikely by Nobody: 10:15am On Sep 18, 2013 |
obadiah777: well ww3 on the horizon Heheheheheheheh prophecies getting fulfilled! Yahweh confusing muthafuckas .....Nuke yourselves heathens! Jeremiah 50 9 For, lo, I will raise and cause to come up against Babylon an assembly of great nations from the north country: and they shall set themselves in array against her; from thence she shall be taken: their arrows shall be as of a mighty expert man; none shall return in vain. 14 Put yourselves in array against Babylon round about: all ye that bend the bow, shoot at her, spare no arrows: for she hath sinned against the Lord. 15 Shout against her round about: she hath given her hand: her foundations are fallen, her walls are thrown down: for it is the vengeance of the Lord: take vengeance upon her; as she hath done, do unto her. 16 Cut off the sower from Babylon, and him that handleth the sickle in the time of harvest: for fear of the oppressing sword they shall turn every one to his people, and they shall flee every one to his own land. Jeremiah 51 13 O thou that dwellest upon many waters, abundant in treasures, thine end is come, and the measure of thy covetousness. 14 The Lord of hosts hath sworn by himself, saying, Surely I will fill thee with men, as with caterpillers; and they shall lift up a shout against thee. 20 Thou art my battle axe and weapons of war: for with thee will I break in pieces the nations, and with thee will I destroy kingdoms; 2 Likes |
Re: Reasons Why A Diplomatic Solution To The Syrian Crisis Is Unlikely by Nobody: 11:24am On Sep 18, 2013 |
doubleDx:well dayummm i need to come take lessons from you brother doubleDx. very poignant verses sire 3 Likes |
Re: Reasons Why A Diplomatic Solution To The Syrian Crisis Is Unlikely by MostHigh: 11:28am On Sep 18, 2013 |
doubleDx: doubleDx notin do you at all. The verses are like a double edged sword. 2 Likes |
Re: Reasons Why A Diplomatic Solution To The Syrian Crisis Is Unlikely by MostHigh: 11:29am On Sep 18, 2013 |
obadiah777: well dayummm i need to come take lessons from you brother doubleDx. very poignant verses sire Thats what we call rapid fire ation Sire. Top of the day to you brother. 2 Likes |
Re: Reasons Why A Diplomatic Solution To The Syrian Crisis Is Unlikely by Originalsly: 11:45am On Sep 18, 2013 |
" In the councils of government we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought by military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist." Dwight D. Eisenhower (US President 1954-1961) Hmmm...can't say he didn't know what he was talking about nor warned us. 2 Likes |
Re: Reasons Why A Diplomatic Solution To The Syrian Crisis Is Unlikely by NairaMinted: 11:48am On Sep 18, 2013 |
I have been reading your post and you HollyHolla it seems are an intelligent individual who.looks at the hard facts, uses his/her brain and is capable.of.making sound, logical and pragmatic conclusions based on these facts/evidence or lack thereof. I like people who.are capable by critical reasoning and are not like so many sheeple and zombies out there, governed and guided by what is fed them by authority or the corporate controlled mainstream media. HolyHolla: 2 Likes |
Re: Reasons Why A Diplomatic Solution To The Syrian Crisis Is Unlikely by sylvok: 11:50am On Sep 18, 2013 |
JMOI: [b]"Reasons why" Sounds like a grammatical error to meMy brother your analysis is somhow in line but i assure you, Russia and China will neva engage US but Hezebolla and Iran will definetly attack Israel but that shouldn't be problem. to avert war assad will step down and political solution sort. but i assure you after assad hezebolla question will be raised and dealt with. |
Re: Reasons Why A Diplomatic Solution To The Syrian Crisis Is Unlikely by ifeomabernard(f): 11:53am On Sep 18, 2013 |
US STAY OUT OF SYRIA!!! 3 Likes |
Re: Reasons Why A Diplomatic Solution To The Syrian Crisis Is Unlikely by prettyboi1(m): 12:21pm On Sep 18, 2013 |
Duke_Nija:Lol...I laugh at you guys trusting the u.s. I won't write much Cos a lot of times,you guys are so damn hard to convince. Muammar Gaddafi of Libya had WMDs (weapons of mass destruction) for a long time & insisted he had them to protect his country against invasion. For years,the west & their allies through the puppet body "U.N." put pressure on him to give them up,he refused. They sanctioned his government internationally severally,he still refused. Eventually, he was trying to get in line with western countries & get over any beef & in 2003 or 2005,(I don't remember the year precisely at this moment but it's one of those two years) he finally gave up his WMDs. Fast forward a few years to 2011,Libya was invaded & infiltrated & Gaddafi murdered. Now,if it were you,wouldn't you learn something from that example? 1 Like |
Re: Reasons Why A Diplomatic Solution To The Syrian Crisis Is Unlikely by moshoodn(m): 12:22pm On Sep 18, 2013 |
Its so unfortunate the war chimes are clinging over Syria now... Eventually, Jihad never dies, its continues! When Syria is put down, the jihadist simply move on to find a new turf to fight for Allah, still in the Middle East probably... In the long run, when the $h!t hits the fan, everyone gets sprayed.... Even our own beloved Naija ain't left out... Bottom line::::: PEACE IS ALL I PRAY FOR (WORDS OF R.KELLY). 2 Likes |
Re: Reasons Why A Diplomatic Solution To The Syrian Crisis Is Unlikely by ifeomabernard(f): 12:54pm On Sep 18, 2013 |
What is our national interest if a bunch of Muslim extremist are killing other Muslim extremist? We are going to intervene so after hostilities end, they can kill Americians. Really? STAY OUT OF SYRIA!!!! |
Re: Reasons Why A Diplomatic Solution To The Syrian Crisis Is Unlikely by Underground: 1:03pm On Sep 18, 2013 |
Just in. These are the people the US, Israel, Saudi, Turkey and Qatar are supporting and supplying weapons to........I am so sorry [size=14pt]Horrific footage shows Syrian helicopter pilot who was 'shot down by Turkish forces and then beheaded by rebels[/size] http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2423831/Disturbing-footage-shows-Syrian-helicopter-pilot-shot-Turkish-forces-beheaded-rebels.html |
Re: Reasons Why A Diplomatic Solution To The Syrian Crisis Is Unlikely by plendil: 3:08pm On Sep 18, 2013 |
HolyHolla: I like your excellent write up, Op. But I want to seriously digress to the other side if the divide and give 10 cogent reasons why the US and their allies will not attack Syria for now. Yes, I believe it could still happen at a later date, but not very soon and not based on current situation. Beautiful, incisive analysis. However, I'm not sure it was the attack on Iraq that birthed Alqaeda |
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