ooman:

ah, so funny



we created or made matter, same way you think your god did.

Unless you are saying that a bunch of scientists caused something to be without needing any material then it is definitely not the same.

ooman:
life is not an irreducible unit, you have a proof to the contrary? am all ears.

Not until you tell us where this venture will lead and its relevance to the present discourse.

ooman:
my gal dey, find yours

I will; soon enough!

striktlymi:

Unless you are saying that a bunch of scientists caused something to be without needing any material then it is definitely not the same.

OK, this made my day. You actually believe that there could be a life form somewhere who could make something from nothing? ah, guy, put on your thinking cap.

striktlymi: Not until you tell us where this venture will lead and its relevance to the present discourse.

am speechless, you dont even know the relevance of life being or not being an irreducible unit and your are debating this with me? damn

striktlymi: I will; soon enough!

i take it your dead jewish white master hasnt told you to get a gal, right?

ooman:

OK, this made my day. You actually believe that there could be a life form somewhere who could make something from nothing? ah, guy, put on your thinking cap.

Now you are getting to know the difference between "Create" and "Make" as per my usage. Only God has demonstrated an ability to cause stuff into existence.

ooman:
am speechless, you dont even know the relevance of life being or not being an irreducible unit and your are debating this with me? damn

No I don't! Tell us the relevance.

ooman:
i take it your dead jewish white master hasnt told you to get a gal, right?

It's a free world pappi...you can take it the way you want.

striktlymi:

Now you are getting to know the difference between "Create" and "Make" as per my usage. Only God has demonstrated an ability to cause stuff into existence.

Only in myth doe this happen. Nothing comes from nothing, this is your own argument. But now you are telling me a god can come from nothing and make something from nothing? guy, be reasonable.

striktlymi: No I don't! Tell us the relevance.

Simple, it means life is made up of simpler matter. It means life can be broken down, destroyed, whatever, but life is not irreducible, so there cant be an eternal god. only energy is eternal, and its no life at all.

striktlymi: It's a free world pappi...you can take it the way you want.

you know that is right

ooman:

Only in myth doe this happen. Nothing comes from nothing, this is your own argument. But now you are telling me a god can come from nothing and make something from nothing? guy, be reasonable.

Yeah right! I have seen enough in my 'puny' existence to know that not everything can be shrugged off as mythical.

ooman:
Simple, it means life is made up of simpler matter. It means life can be broken down, destroyed, whatever, but life is not irreducible, so there cant be an eternal god. only energy is eternal, and its no life at all.

1) Can you prove that life is made up of simple matter?

2) I'd like to see you demonstrate that life can be destroyed. Note my usage of life.

3) Without energy, will the brain survive?

ooman:
you know that is right

Wrong!

If I go out with a gal, it's because I choose to. I ask for guidance from God most definitely but I make the decision.

striktlymi: Without God there wouldn't be life in the first place.

God is life and everything came to be because He is. In Him was (is) life and the life was the light of men John 1:4

When one truly experiences God. When one has true knowledge of God, he will understand that life without God is not life at all. It's hell. Death.
When I got to know God. I got life. Seperation from God is death.

The thief comes not but to steal and to kill, and to destroy. I have come that they may have life, and live it to the full.
-Jesus Christ

striktlymi:

In that sense Christianity does not reject every beliefs or sense of morality. To the one 'exposed' to the Christian way by 'revelation', yes you prbably are right but when it comes to one who knows 'nothing' of the Christian way then your thoughts are quite incorrect.

#Life indeed would have no meaning without God because he is life.

Hence there lies a motive to invent God, a psychological demand to make out of existence sanity.

striktlymi:

Yeah right! I have seen enough in my 'puny' existence to know that not everything can be shrugged off as mythical.

Like i dont have experiences!! deluded little thing

striktlymi: 1) Can you prove that life is made up of simple matter?

yep, except you wanna tell me bacteria have souls and souls jump into viruses when they get into a host and jump out when not in a host.

striktlymi: 2) I'd like to see you demonstrate that life can be destroyed. Note my usage of life.

just shoot yourself in the head, or put a life cell in fire.
#irritating question

striktlymi: 3) Without energy, will the brain survive?

nope

striktlymi: Wrong!

If I go out with a gal, it's because I choose to. I ask for guidance from God most definitely but I make the decision.

same thing. you get guidance from your white master, whatever slave. I need you to do my laundry.....

Pastor Olu T:
God is life and everything came to be because He is. In Him was (is) life and the life was the light of men John 1:4

Did God really walk in the garden,did God really eat food with Abraham ? And what made you believe these stories anyway?

Are you talking about a different God here? Can God create imperfection? Can God's imperfections lead to God being destroyed?

What is God really? The bible said God is not a God of confusion,so why so many confusion regard God itself? If God should show itself to the ancient Israelis, cant it do the same today?




Just curious. Answer these question if you wish to...... Pastor

ifeness:

Did God really walk in the garden,did God really eat food with Abraham ? And what made you believe these stories anyway?

Are you talking about a different God here? Can God create imperfection? Can God's imperfections lead to God being destroyed?

What is God really? The bible said God is not a God of confusion,so why so many confusion regard God itself? If God should show itself to the ancient Israelis, cant it do the same today?




Just curious. Answer these question if you wish to...... Pastor

the confusion is on your side.

Chibuebem: the confusion is on your side.

I did not ask you any question,did i?

ifeness:

I did not ask you any question,did i?

no you didn't. Sorry

Life is nothing without God(Olodumare). Olodumare is the source of life

Pastor Olu T:
God is life and everything came to be because He is. In Him was (is) life and the life was the light of men John 1:4

True!

Kay 17:

Hence there lies a motive to invent God, a psychological demand to make out of existence sanity.

Nah mehn! You only want to make yourself believe that.

ooman:

Like i dont have experiences!! deluded little thing

It's quite probable, you do not have the requisite experience.

ooman:
yep, except you wanna tell me bacteria have souls and souls jump into viruses when they get into a host and jump out when not in a host.

I do not see any proof in the above comment.

ooman:
just shoot yourself in the head, or put a life cell in fire.
#irritating question

nope

Lol!!!

The question irritates you? Maybe you need to think about it a bit more. Let's give you a pointer or two to give your thoughts some direction...

You believe the brain can't work without energy.

You believe energy can neither be created nor destroyed by any know human means.

If something dies, it can be argued that the item is destroyed.

Death for humans, basically occurs when the brain stops working.

The brain only stops working when there is no energy to power it.

If energy cannot be destroyed, why then do you think we 'die' when the brain lacks energy?

Think about it carefully this time before you answer.

ooman:
same thing. you get guidance from your white master, whatever slave. I need you to do my laundry.....

Sorry pappi...I don't do dirty boxers.

macof: Life is nothing without God(Olodumare). Olodumare is the source of life

True!

Chubhie: If you understand that there is the physical and meta physical part of existence, you may elect to blank your mind and pretend there exists nothing outside of the world of perception and live your life to the fullest and enjoying the best of the sensual pleasures of the material plane. But, to what end? Return to your maker,acknowledge him and live an holy life on the foundation of Christ. Your source/father in heaven loves you so much even upon all the mockery you do subject him to and only wishes you don't die in your sins/ignorance.

Truly said

ifeness:

Did God really walk in the garden,did God really eat food with Abraham ? And what made you believe these stories anyway?

Are you talking about a different God here? Can God create imperfection? Can God's imperfections lead to God being destroyed?

What is God really? The bible said God is not a God of confusion,so why so many confusion regard God itself? If God should show itself to the ancient Israelis, cant it do the same today?




Just curious. Answer these question if you wish to...... Pastor

Great questions Ife, I will choose not to answer ur questions one by one bt wholly 'cos that's not what make me believe.
What make me believe so strongly is simply 'cos of the encounters I have had n having in this xtian journey. I dont just believe this things 'cos I was told or 'cos it felt convenient, I believe 'cos I can't do otherwise n would be so dumb to neglect all my experiences.
Now I dont have to go into my experiences, bt I have this to say; I have been preaching for years now n my life is constantly threatened n also there is a price on my head. Do u think if this is not real someone would even bother to try to stop me?
The day u come to terms that all this is real that's the day things would start making meaning to u n u will see life in the true sense!

.

striktlymi:

Nah mehn! You only want to make yourself believe that.

Noo, a valid conclusion from the premises you agreed to. If Life is nihilistic, the least man can do is provide a shelter from such nihilistic doom, is to invent a solution. Also we can conclude that man has a natural yearn to release himself from nihilistic doom. Thus a motive to create God.

God the only means to find meaning.

Kay 17:

Noo, a valid conclusion from the premises you agreed to. If Life is nihilistic, the least man can do is provide a shelter from such nihilistic doom, is to invent a solution. Also we can conclude that man has a natural yearn to release himself from nihilistic doom. Thus a motive to create God.

God the only means to find meaning.

I don't think you got a grasp of what I agreed with.

striktlymi:

I don't think you got a grasp of what I agreed with.

You agreed Life on its own (without God) is meaningless.

Kay 17:

You agreed Life on its own (without God) is meaningless.

In the sense that there is nothing like life without God. Check my OP...God is life itself.

striktlymi:

In the sense that there is nothing like life without God. Check my OP...God is life itself.

I'm talking about meaning of life

So far life without God has been okay. Save for the pretense to Christianity pending when I'm sure of what path I'll take. I do not intend to be a closet atheist or deist, since I wasn't a closet Christian: and moreso since despite the aversion to irreligiin in Nigeria it's seems things are better co pared to places like say Pakistan or Indonesia.

striktlymi:

It's quite probable, you do not have the requisite experience.

Like i was never a xtian, deluded little thing.

striktlymi: I do not see any proof in the above comment.

proof of what?

striktlymi: Lol!!!

The question irritates you? Maybe you need to think about it a bit more. Let's give you a pointer or two to give your thoughts some direction...

You believe the brain can't work without energy.

You believe energy can neither be created nor destroyed by any know human means.

If something dies, it can be argued that the item is destroyed.

Death for humans, basically occurs when the brain stops working.

The brain only stops working when there is no energy to power it.

If energy cannot be destroyed, why then do you think we 'die' when the brain lacks energy?

Think about it carefully this time before you answer.

still an irritating question, maybe what you got wrong is thinking the life in the brain is energy. Energy only powers the brain like it powers your computer, life itself is the right configuration of elements, powered by energy, to support the continuous life processes. So when the brain lacks power, it dies, no more relationship between them.

and its not just man that cannot create and destroy energy, no one can demonstrate their gods can, so no one, including all gods, can

striktlymi: Sorry pappi...I don't do dirty boxers.

common slave, what if your white master jesus ask you to do his dirty boxer, can you say that to him?

ooman:
still an irritating question, maybe what you got wrong is thinking the life in the brain is energy. Energy only powers the brain like it powers your computer, life itself is the right configuration of elements, powered by energy, to support the continuous life processes. So when the brain lacks power, it dies, no more relationship between them.

You liken the energy the brain uses to that of a computer?

striktlymi:

You liken the energy the brain uses to that of a computer?

its all the same energy in different form. I take it you dont even know you produce electricity inside you, and that some fish produce enough voltage to kill other life forms immediately, like the eel?

oga oo.

ooman:

its all the same energy in different form. I take it you dont even know you produce electricity inside you, and that some fish produce enough voltage to kill other life forms immediately, like the eel?

oga oo.

Smh!!!

striktlymi:

Smh!!!

what can i say