Trey knowles: And how many years before one can be a doctor cause i read a blog dat it takes close to twelve years

That's very true, especially if you are lucky, intelligent and smart, it may be more than 12years or less, cos you'll write various exams, various stages/levels/phases you'll have to pass thru, especially for an outsider, its more difficult, but you can do it, its a matter of determination. There is one examination you'll write in Africa too, so its a long process, but in the end, its worth it! Cos of the pay, but i don't think i can dabble into that, i'll advise have your MBBS degree first in Nigeria or somewhere else, then you can start applying for international professional exams in whichever area you wanna specialise in. With a first degree in MBBS or any related fields you won't spend up to 12 years

babyosisi:

I hear you well
Nobody says life is easy
Not to diss anyone but there are a lot of people in Nigeria that make money by embezzling public funds and obtaining bribes
It is a common way to make money
People who work in pension office have always taken about the 200 Naira change on top of my father's pension since he retired and that is when they decide to pay it
Imagine 200 Naira from every pensioner in a whole state,how much is that monthly?
So When these people build mansions,you want to compare them to yourself making an honest living and paying your taxes.
Everyone mooching off the government and other people in some fashion
I went to get a Nigerian passport in my state capital,they charged me three times the amount and gave me a receipt with the official fee
You want to compare yourself with that person?
Or is it the pastor fleecing the flock you want to compare to?
Those with relatives and connection in Aso rock and govt house that became multi millionaires overnight after their relatives got into places of authority.


You and your wife need to cut your coat according to your size and don't compete with anyone
Live frugally
Buy things you can comfortably afford
For a house let the income of one person be used to qualify for mortgage
Shop wisely
Save save save
Don't get into the Nigerian party lifestyle scene and waste money on nonsense to show off and belong
I drive an 8 year old car and I plan on driving it till my oldest two graduate college.
My friends drive Mercedes and Lexus,I am not moved one bit
They know I can afford to walk into a car lot and drive off with a Mercedes
Kini big deal
Set your priorities right


I agree with your last paragraph and I wrote that earlier
If you are already settled and making a good living in Nigeria,stay back there
Come and vacation and go back home
This thread is mainly for the younger people just starting off

Financial prudence is important, manage ur resources, this is not naija that u can do "JamaJama"

Save n only aqcuire/buy stuffs that you need. Nor do copy copy

Babyosisi, Dayokanu, Wallie et. al - You guys are just so on point.

I agree with all your points.

babyosisi:

The tribalism in Nigeria is a million times worse than racism
Racism can be grounds for dismissal at a job and colossal lawsuits,tribalism in Nigeria is the order of the day
It is entrenched in the code of conduct,it dictates who gets admission to a university and who doesn't
Who gets a job and who doesn't
Your tribe dictates when you get promoted in the military etc
It up even determines who rules the country
Can you beat that?
As we speak a group called Boko haram is slaughtering people solely for their religion and you speak of discrimination
What is worse than that?
If you want to see a real hood go to Nigeria
85% of people live in places worse than any hood in the USA with no flush able toilets or drinking water so what exactly is your point young man?

God punish poverty. All dis bashing here na becos of amelika, ewuo bia mama nneka i no go amelika agen o!. Take it or leave it, success can find u anywere only what u ve to do is to focus. No place is better!

ozo_emeka: Is it falsehood?

So those pictures are NOT REAL? There are no homeless people in america, hobos? I'm making that up?

The hood is not real? I just photoshopped that?

Racism does not exist? Trayvon Martin is a fairy tale?

Africans don't get caricatured for their "accents"? TV ads don't portray Africa as ONE COUNTRY with starving kids?

PLEASE by ALL MEANS, prove me wrong if any of the "claims" I made are false

What is false is LYING to people and telling them America is all skyscrapers.

Those things you posted are real like most Projects are really scary in America cus I almost got shot by a hungry Nigger when I went to see my girl who gave me an address and I found out it was a project.Very bad neighborhood.
One can still make it through the means stated by babyosisi but it all boils down to ones attitude and zeal to succeed in life in America or any other part of the world. All is about sacrifice and nothing comes easy.

Gayigaskia: I live in America for the past 15 years, i make good salary my wife is a RN we have 3 kids, and sometimes we struggle for cash. That situation scares me a lot because our kids are young and really i don't want to live like this having high blood pressure wahala all the time. The problem with America is you don't really own anything, everything is bills on top of that there always things that eat up your savings. ie: charges from late fees,speeding tickets, insurance copays and so on. When you compare to your friends in Africa, they have not many worries as far as kids are concern since you don't have to for baby sitting ; you will have a aunt, cousin, niece to do the home works for you, everything you own is owned straight up , there is no monthly payments wahala. If you are able to open your own business or secure a decent job in Nigeria, it would be way better than living in America.

I hate when people say this. Live within ur means. Don't buy a 2014 BMW X6 because your neighbor has it. Buy a used 2006 car and pay it in full. Don't live in a $500k home, go for $150k and pay 20-30% down. Don't finance ur lifestyle because your friends and co-workers are doing it and it shall be well with u.

Is it advisable to study for d first degree here in Nigeria? Or to start everything in u.s. Which one is more valuable

druid06:

Thanks for the information. That Ozo Emeka is such a kill joy and an enemy of progression. Since the U.S is too inhumane to reside there, what's he still doing there.. If he doesn't accept the situation with the U.S, like my good friends the rednecks would say. GET OUT!.

I'm currently planning to move to Canada. It's a work in progress and I still have some few years in Nigeria. I would be grateful if someone starts a thread on there too.

Great thread by the way. I love the way you flow in pidgin...

Eerrrrh! Canada and the US are two completely different countries. Im sure you know that.

Afam4eva:
If i remain in Nigeria, i might join Ogboni. My head wan scatter for here.

Ajibel: @babyosisi,,, I have a bff who wants to study medicine (paediatrics) in the states... Can you (or anyone) suggest some schools she can attempt please. Thanks in anticipation. I'm making my findings too, buh it maybe easier to hear from you (or others)

Compared to any part of the world, America has one of the best medical colleges, the least medical college in America is better than any in Nigeria. There are several and many medical colleges from John Hopkins, to harvard, newyork university, university of chicago, university of pittsburg, just do your research well, the only problem is the cost, tuition is as much as 50grand in some places, the least should be around 20,000dolls, but he or she can get schorlarship through SAT's and some other means. The tuition fee is fucking expensive.

Considered studying medicine in the states too, before i opted out, i am a medical student in Nigeria, but sometimes when i am dreaming i do see myself bagging a john hopkins university MBBS degree. And another thing, the best brains get admitted into these universities, also they admit a few and nothing short of the best

I am presently an undergraduate studying political science in Nigeria. I plan to further my studies in the states and stay after my Masters there. Please what are my chances in securing employment after masters in USA?

Gayigaskia: I live in America for the past 15 years, i make good salary my wife is a RN we have 3 kids, and sometimes we struggle for cash. That situation scares me a lot because our kids are young and really i don't want to live like this having high blood pressure wahala all the time. T[b]he problem with America is you don't really own anything, everything is bills on top of that there always things that eat up your savings. ie: charges from late fees,speeding tickets, insurance copays and so on[/b]. When you compare to your friends in Africa, they have not many worries as far as kids are concern since you don't have to for baby sitting ; you will have a aunt, cousin, niece to do the home works for you, everything you own is owned straight up , there is no monthly payments wahala. If you are able to open your own business or secure a decent job in Nigeria, it would be way better than living in America.

You don't sound like somebody who will survive a day in Africa, go and live in Africa and see how the system works then you will appreciate America more.

Its speeding ticket in America and in Nigeria its police extortion whether you break the traffic law or not. Don't even conclude until you move to Africa.

Trey knowles: Is it advisable to study for d first degree here in Nigeria? Or to start everything in u.s. Which one is more valuable

First degree gives you an edge, you can further thereafter in the states. Its very much easier for a highschool graduate in the state to admitted into college than for you without a first degree maybe with just your o'levels, hope you gat ma point?

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I hate when people say this. Live within ur means. Don't buy a 2014 BMW X6 because your neighbor has it. Buy a used 2006 car and pay it in full. Don't live in a $500k home, go for $150k and pay 20-30% down. Don't finance ur lifestyle because your friends and co-workers are doing it and it shall be well with u.

Thank you!!!

Na wa ooo see yankee guys dey talk good things about the country,where are the UK guys now?we need more information about the country

Thank you so much.
I don't mean 5 kids though, three children + parents. But I understand you.
But isn't there a way for legal residence? Just asking!
Thank again.

dayokanu:

College is the same thing as University

If you dont have papers means if you dont have legal residence . A green card dont try it especially with a family because how would you cope with a family of 5 with legal residence. Without legal residence you can barely get a job, get a drivers license or even rent an apartment

If you are single you can sleep on friends couch etc but how can you do that with 5 kids?

justwise:

Thank you!!!

You don't have to take any loans at all and it shall be "weller" with you!

babyosisi:

Don't mind that boy
As a science graduate,if you are ready to teach,there is work for you as long as you have papers which is not hard to get for a young able bodied man.
There are many Nigerians girls looking for husbands,I won't advise you marry someone just for green card but you can find someone and marry them for real and get your green card through them.
Schools here are looking for Science teachers especially maths and Physics
I have a friend who studied at ABSU and is now a Biology teacher in a high school
She started out as a substitute teacher and eventually applied and was hired full time without teacher certification
She is now certified and earning over 50K as a school teacher
You can then enroll part time for a masters degree and boost your career while you teach
States like New York are very flexible in things like that
If you are young and get a visa and have someone that can house you a while,come .
Don't let anyone discourage you
It is not a bed of roses but it can be done.people have done it

It is easier if you come as a single man

. Story, hw much does a sub teacher make? Can u pay ur bill with dat? U made it sound easy meanwhile it won't be easy..u talk about green card like its a piece of cake, mhen.. Stop deceiving people with ur bull crap story .. Ur eye go see fire before u even balance up .. With a green card it may be a bit easy if u are ready to do any work( certificate? Put am for one side) meanwhile, if u come in with a visa, chai.. Prepare urself because it will not be easy.. I mean NOT EASY..

kaka22: I am presently an undergraduate studying political science in Nigeria. I plan to further my studies in the states and stay after my Masters there. Please what are my chances in securing employment after masters in USA?

@all...I'm waiting for your response to my question...

@babyosisi and all,
I will be coming to the US next year with my wife on DV visa,my wife studied chemistry,shuld she go for masters in chemistry or go for pharmacy? Pls. i need ur contributions.

TCPonly: @babyosisi and all,
I will be coming to the US next year with my wife on DV visa,my wife studied chemistry,shuld she go for masters in chemistry or go for pharmacy? Pls. i need ur contributions.

If she can get into pharmacy school,that will be a better option IMHO
Being a science major already,she has a big advantage
She will be in familiar territory.
Pharmacists make a good living here

ozo_emeka: Listen to the trash you are offering. He should marry someone for a green card?

If you are ACTUALLY nigerian american (not one of those immigrants who managed to get "papers" you would encourage him to look at programs like the Meyerhoff Program for people in STEM (Science, Technology, Engineering and Math), you will encourage him to take advantage of organizations that offer scholarships to Africans or people from disadvantaged backgrounds.

You will encourage him to apply to NASA, they accept immigrants and provide you a work visa


But no, you, the "one who knows what she is talking about" is suggesting to a "graduate looking for greener pastures" to commit a crime (marry a girl for papers) and risk going to jail.

GREAT ADVICE

This guy men STEM only give u work permit after u got a degree what off if u fund urself after a year and u cant afford for the remaining years. Also Nasa receive applications from everywhere in the world it will be hard to get ajob. Other organizations that give scholarship some a re partial and is also hard to get too. Marriage is like the only option but as she said look for someone u love not just for Green card.

Shankboye: . Story, hw much does a sub teacher make? Can u pay ur bill with dat? U made it sound easy meanwhile it won't be easy..u talk about green card like its a piece of cake, mhen.. Stop deceiving people with ur bull crap story .. Ur eye go see fire before u even balance up .. With a green card it may be a bit easy if u are ready to do any work( certificate? Put am for one side) meanwhile, if u come in with a visa, chai.. Prepare urself because it will not be easy.. I mean NOT EASY..

Have I told anyone it was easy?
Have I advised anyone they can ride a jet working as a substitute teacher
Isn't it options of what they can do and what others have done that I'm offering?
If you have ideas and suggestions please provide it
That is the essence of this thread
Even if you are driving cab,tell people how to get into the cabbie industry

adconline:

I hate when people say this. Live within ur means. Don't buy a 2014 BMW X6 because your neighbor has it. Buy a used 2006 car and pay it in full. Don't live in a $500k home, go for $150k and pay 20-30% down. Don't finance ur lifestyle because your friends and co-workers are doing it and it shall be well with u.

I think you misread me, i am not any of those guys you were talking about. I drive a Pilot old one 03 to be exact bought cash. Now we can argue about this all day; in America you make money and they will take it right back no matter how you do. Now there are ways to save, but i'm not for the sake of it put my kids in bad neighborhoods where they will go to bad schools just to end up smoking weed at early ages.

ikp4succes:

This guy men STEM only give u work permit after u got a degree what off if u fund urself after a year and u cant afford for the remaining years. Also Nasa receive applications from everywhere in the world it will be hard to get ajob. Other organizations that give scholarship some a re partial and is also hard to get too. Marriage is like the only option but as she said look for someone u love not just for Green card.

Thank you o
There are 20 something and thirty sumtin year old girls here born to Nigerian parents
We want to wear asho ebi
Some have married nigerian immigrants
I have attended the weddings
Some have married men they met on trips to Nigeria
I have attended a wedding like that too
Not everyone does fake marriage for papers
I don't advocate that
Find someone,fall in love and marry for real and get your papers
It is perfectly legal

Doesn't have to be Nigerian


Some of the people discouraging others did fake marriages that got k leg along the way and immigration is pursuing them and they will be talking bad about America

pls OP, i hv a kid broda tht studied dentistry in 9ja nd is hoping to travel to yankee this year. Wht r his chances ova thr. I need ur response ASAP. Thanx

adconline:

I hate when people say this. Live within ur means. Don't buy a 2014 BMW X6 because your neighbor has it. Buy a used 2006 car and pay it in full. Don't live in a $500k home, go for $150k and pay 20-30% down. Don't finance ur lifestyle because your friends and co-workers are doing it and it shall be well with u.

Don't think you live in America or you know about America judging from your post. Except you want to be debt ridden then you can go for every fancy, latest and extravagant things you like or come across.

Even the indigenes i mean the full blooded americans that by default have better opportunities and advantages than you have are frugal and disciplined for them to succeed, excluding those born with silver spoons, ask bill gates, mark zuckerburg, warren buffet their success stories and many more. For an average Man to make it in life you must be purposeful and have a savings, also discipline and denial matters. You don't just buy or eat all goodies your eyes deem fit if you are not very wealthy. Not even in america where you'll find attractive thingsI think the rich are more disciplined than the poor cos they spend mostly on what will make them richer. So bro, frugality is the key to success, save and save for the raining days, by doing so you helping yourself, you'll be the one to reap the benefits, your children will benefit from it. A word is enough for the wise.

Moreover, if you like go for 2014 range rover, luxury home and other exotic and luxury things, except if you are from a wealthy home or very weathy on your own, i mean annual salary above 350grand, then you'll live to tell the story, i know of a family here in Naija, the man earns over 200k monthlY, the wife not working, he has children many(over 5 in number) but he spends lavishly, clubs, cars, women, alcohol... Suddenly he got sick and died, he has nothing to show for except the house he was building for over 6years and not yet completed, i just pity the poor young children, what will they say about their father, Irresponsible is the word. He bought a car of about 8million, that can buy 3 good cars in naija, i ask my self whatl for? They have sold the car now, for the family upkeep. Life is all about choices, so its ya'choice to live whichever way you like, you'll live to tell the story, or someone will tell your story when you're gone, only which story will they talk about?

@OP, what are my options? I am an RN with a BSc in Nursing. I have passed the CGFNS exams. An agent(American) was assisting in processing an EB-3 visa for until the visa retrogression set in.

justwise: [/b]

You don't sound like somebody who will survive a day in Africa, go and leave in Africa and see how the system works then you will appreciate America more.

Its speeding ticket in America and in Nigeria its police extortion whether you break the traffic law or not. Don't even conclude until you move to Africa.

My man i used to drive tokumbo from Cotonou to Kano and Abuja thru Niger Republic after i graduated from Kad Poly. trust me here in the US the government extort money from you all the time. after all my governor is called Martin O'malley

Trey knowles: Is it advisable to study for d first degree here in Nigeria? Or to start everything in u.s. Which one is more valuable

An American degree trumps that of 9ja for now so if you have the money , go to over there
however if you don't have the cheddah like that, go over there and do your masters

clefstone: pls OP, i hv a kid broda tht studied dentistry in 9ja nd is hoping to travel to yankee this year. Wht r his chances ova thr. I need ur response ASAP. Thanx

There are only few states that allow foreign trained dentists to take their licensure exams and one of those states is California
It is a series of exams that could take over 2 years to complete and at the end of it,you can only practice in California

His best bet will be to seek admission for what they call advance standing
It is a program run by some dental schools where foreign dentists can go in and do an accelerated program for an American dental degree for 2 or 3 years depending on the school.

It is very competitive to get in

He needs a high score in part one and two national dental board examinations
A good TOEFL with TWE score
His transcript evaluated
Before he can even apply to a school

One of such schools is NYU dental school
Another is Loma Linda in California
There are others

Let him go to their websites and check on the admission requirements for foreign trained dentists