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"Atheistic Belief Is Also From The White Master" by Nobody: 12:06pm On Oct 11, 2013 |
As the title suggests, some christians have made this claim many times in reply to the fact that their christianity is as a result of Europeans colonizing West Africa. Here is a comment portraying such shallow thinking; joel lala:https://www.nairaland.com/1471731/questions-bug-believers-god/2#18720670 Did Atheism come from Europe or Asia? Do these people think that atheism is like a religion that can be traced back to a tribe? I want to know how they know that the first person to say "wait, there is no evidence for this god, I dont believe in it" was a white man? ^^^ The above sentence is why atheism is universal- anyone can choose to be an atheist or not to believe in god without a holy book or other people. One can not be a christian either without a holy book or without another human to tell him about christianity. Advice- stop making claims out of butthurt. Christianity came from your (christians) white master. That is a fact, lying against atheism wont change that 1 Like |
Re: "Atheistic Belief Is Also From The White Master" by ooman(m): 12:17pm On Oct 11, 2013 |
Natural tribes without a god concept The Piraha People: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirah%C3%A3_people For reason sake, this are primitive people who aren't even educated nor know anything about evolution... When will Africans begin to see? 1 Like |
Re: "Atheistic Belief Is Also From The White Master" by ooman(m): 12:24pm On Oct 11, 2013 |
How an Amazonian tribe turned a missionary into an atheist: This missionary, who went to the Piraha people is now an atheist, his story: Daniel Everett, 57, a linguist in the Departmental Chair of Languages, Literatures and Cultures at Illinois State University, told presenter John McCarthy on the Excess Baggage programme, that he had travelled to the Amazon in the 70s to bring the tribe “the joy of faith” only to discover that they were a deeply contented people. In fact they seemed far better contented than he was. ........ .......... ............ According to Wikipedia, Everett “was having serious doubts by 1982, and had lost all faith by 1985 after having spent a year at MIT. He would not tell anyone about his atheism for another 19 years; when he finally did, his marriage ended in divorce and two of his three children broke off all contact.” ...... ............. ................... his full story here : http://freethinker.co.uk/2008/11/08/how-an-amazonian-tribe-turned-a-missionary-into-an-atheist/ 1 Like |
Re: "Atheistic Belief Is Also From The White Master" by Nobody: 12:27pm On Oct 11, 2013 |
ooman: Natural tribes without a god concept Thank you! What pains me is that the regulars will avoid this thread continue their false argument that atheism came from the white master 1 Like |
Re: "Atheistic Belief Is Also From The White Master" by Nobody: 12:34pm On Oct 11, 2013 |
Atheism is based on 'doubt'. Maybe doubt is only local to the white man.. 1 Like |
Re: "Atheistic Belief Is Also From The White Master" by ooman(m): 12:40pm On Oct 11, 2013 |
Atheism & Skepticism in Africa As Durant explains, certain Pygmy tribes found in Africa were observed to have no identifiable cults or rites. There were no totems, no gods, no spirits. Their dead were buried without special ceremonies or accompanying items and received no further attention. They even appeared to lack simple superstitions, according to travelers' reports. Full story here: http://atheism.about.com/od/atheismhistory/a/PrimitiveAtheismSkepticism.htm 1 Like |
Re: "Atheistic Belief Is Also From The White Master" by Nobody: 1:02pm On Oct 11, 2013 |
Logicboy03: @Logiboy and ooman, I got this info from the same link you posted about the Pirahã people, see below: However, they do believe in spirits that can sometimes take on the shape of things in the environment. These spirits can be jaguars, trees, or other visible, tangible things including people. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirah%C3%A3_people Now, do Atheist believe in God, god, spirits, ghosts, Karma etc? The answer is NO...Atheism by strict definition is the lack of a belief in gods, but it's generally extended to the lack of a belief in any supernatural entity or substance. That includes ghosts, spirits, souls, angels, demons, vampires, elves, bogeymen, unicorns, phoenixes and the energies of karma, chi, the Holy Spirit, life-force or The Force... http://asktheatheist.rationalresponders.com/question/do_atheists_believe_in_ghosts_or_spirits You guys believe strongly in evolution, but we all know that Charles Darwin (WHITE MAN) was the first person to formulate a scientific argument for the theory of evolution by means of natural selection. If you accept evolution definitely you also are ensnared by the same white masters that you have accused several religious people of.. Thank you 2 Likes |
Re: "Atheistic Belief Is Also From The White Master" by Nobody: 1:11pm On Oct 11, 2013 |
ooman: Atheism & Skepticism in Africa Now, these sect of Africans dont believe in Evolution or Darwin's theory do they? BTW, who is Charles Darwin that you believe so much in his analogy? I guess he is a black man right? Lets see below: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Darwin If you truly want to be an atheist(esp like the pygmy), you wont believe in anything at all and you should ensure you live a primitive lifestyle |
Re: "Atheistic Belief Is Also From The White Master" by Nobody: 1:13pm On Oct 11, 2013 |
aManFromMars: Atheism is based on 'doubt'. Maybe doubt is only local to the white man.. Guy, why you dey do like this na..Abeg try upload wetin i post for your sticky thread. |
Re: "Atheistic Belief Is Also From The White Master" by Nobody: 2:14pm On Oct 11, 2013 |
Logicboy03: As the title suggests, some christians have made this claim many times in reply to the fact that their christianity is as a result of Europeans colonizing West Africa. Read my post properly, am talking about Nairaland atheist like you who accuse Christainity from coming from white master whereas everything you tend to accept( evolution etc) comes from the white man too. |
Re: "Atheistic Belief Is Also From The White Master" by Nobody: 2:16pm On Oct 11, 2013 |
joel lala: How so? Explain yourself rather than making some ambiguous claims |
Re: "Atheistic Belief Is Also From The White Master" by Nobody: 2:17pm On Oct 11, 2013 |
Logicboy03: You posted a link from a particular thread, i will suggest you go through that thread for further explanation and also my few post on this one as well. |
Re: "Atheistic Belief Is Also From The White Master" by Nobody: 2:20pm On Oct 11, 2013 |
joel lala: Keep looking for maga I read that thread....no sensible explanation. We are here- explain it now 1 Like |
Re: "Atheistic Belief Is Also From The White Master" by Nobody: 2:28pm On Oct 11, 2013 |
Logicboy03: I will repost one of my reply that i posted in this thread again for you to see. @Logiboy and ooman, I got this info from the same link you posted about the Pirahã people, see below: However, they do believe in spirits that can sometimes take on the shape of things in the environment. These spirits can be jaguars, trees, or other visible, tangible things including people. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirah%C3%A3_people Now, do Atheist believe in God, god, spirits, ghosts, Karma etc? The answer is NO...Atheism by strict definition is the lack of a belief in gods, but it's generally extended to the lack of a belief in any supernatural entity or substance. That includes ghosts, spirits, souls, angels, demons, vampires, elves, bogeymen, unicorns, phoenixes and the energies of karma, chi, the Holy Spirit, life-force or The Force... http://asktheatheist.rationalresponders.com/question/do_atheists_believe_in_ghosts_or_spirits You guys believe strongly in evolution, but we all know that Charles Darwin (WHITE MAN) was the first person to formulate a scientific argument for the theory of evolution by means of natural selection. If you accept evolution definitely you also are ensnared by the same white masters that you have accused several religious people of.. Look below, and you will see your own post supporting the thesis of Evolution: Logicboy03: The evolutionary basis for morality is something that has been studied and explained in evolutionary psychology. It is something that is now embedded in moral philosophy. |
Re: "Atheistic Belief Is Also From The White Master" by Nobody: 2:37pm On Oct 11, 2013 |
As long as you strongly believe in the concept of evolution which was created and founded strongly by Charles Darwin (White Man), you my friend is also a slave to the white master....QED..Dont forget the pygmies dont believe in the concept of evolution by Charles darwin, they just live their primitive lives to the fullest..You want to truly be an atheist that isnt under a white man, then Live your life like the pygmies.. |
Re: "Atheistic Belief Is Also From The White Master" by FOLYKAZE(m): 2:39pm On Oct 11, 2013 |
joel lala: Well we are really different pls. I dont believe in Anthropomorphic concept of God......I dont have a problem if God is universe or energy. I believe in spirituality and spirits (spirit is force to me).......no demon or monsters attached Have you seen me arguing evolution? Nope....I value experience than books composed of people's mind. You could be right if your post was directed to 'nairaland atheist'. Im a spiritual atheist. |
Re: "Atheistic Belief Is Also From The White Master" by macof(m): 2:58pm On Oct 11, 2013 |
joel lala:I support ur views here 1 Like |
Re: "Atheistic Belief Is Also From The White Master" by Nobody: 3:14pm On Oct 11, 2013 |
@ Joel Lala 1) Evolution has nothing to do with atheism. One can believe in evolution and be a christian or even a muslim...doesnt matter 2) The Piraha people believe in only what they see.....it doesnt matter if they call jaguars "spirits"...their definition of spirit is different from yours. FAIL |
Re: "Atheistic Belief Is Also From The White Master" by Nobody: 3:17pm On Oct 11, 2013 |
FOLYKAZE: No, you are a deist that wants to roll with the cool atheist kids.... |
Re: "Atheistic Belief Is Also From The White Master" by Nobody: 3:29pm On Oct 11, 2013 |
Logicboy03: @ Joel Lala What are you saying... 1. Any christian/muslim that believes and accepts the concept of evolution can not still be called a christian/muslim because evolution totally contradicts the christain or muslim beliefs..It is just like saying a christian/muslim can still believe in paganism and still be called a christian/muslim..SMH Bros, accept and stop beating about the bush, you too have white masters based on your own accepted concept....If you dont want to have white masters based on the theory of evolution, be free and live like the pygmies that ooman posted who dont believe in God, god, evolution nada..As long as you accept evolution, you too are enslave by white masters.. 2. As for the Piraha people, as long as they believe in spirits, whether na jaguar o, rat, cockroach etc they still believe in a something called spirit.. |
Re: "Atheistic Belief Is Also From The White Master" by Nobody: 3:43pm On Oct 11, 2013 |
joel lala: 1) Some atheists dont believe in evolution. So you can yarn bullsheit all you want 2) SMh |
Re: "Atheistic Belief Is Also From The White Master" by Nobody: 3:57pm On Oct 11, 2013 |
Logicboy03: 1. Yeah, but you do, making you to have a white master.. As for the bolded, it shows your informal fallacy here. 2. |
Re: "Atheistic Belief Is Also From The White Master" by Nobody: 4:03pm On Oct 11, 2013 |
joel lala: lol.....atheism has nothing to do with evolution. Atheism is not science. If accepting evolution as science = having a white master then, using windows/apple = having a white master. You dont evne understand why you christians have a white master. The reason is that your Jesus is painted white in your Nigerian churches due to the fact that it was white colonizers and slave masters that brought the religion to Nigeria. How you can project this to atheism is just bewildering 2 Likes |
Re: "Atheistic Belief Is Also From The White Master" by Nobody: 4:39pm On Oct 11, 2013 |
Logicboy03: First of all, i am talking about your evolution theory here and not the hardware or software that were being made...Also, i mentioned Nairaland Atheist (esp you and ooman) and not your white man's atheist here. You believe and accept that man was formed through evolution theory right? Who formed the concept of evolution here? ans: A WHITE MAN. Since Atheism has nothing to do with evolution, that means according to you, christianiy has nothing to do with evolution, so a christian can say man evolved from apes and also man/earth was made by God right? Wont it contradict what he stands for as a christian and will that sound proper to your own ears? As an African, you are meant to stand to your own concept which you gave a clear example of the pygmies..Now do the pygmies believe they were made through the concept of evolution? the answer is NO..Showing they stand to their own believes..Pygmies will definately use gadget like phones, windows etc but will not accept evolution into their culture. On the other hand, you accept that man was formed from apes via evolution and yet you post the link of the pygmies..Is this not contradictory here. African atheist dont believe in Evolution, but you as an African on the other hand accepted the Theory of Evolution from the white man. As for christian churches painting a white man as Jesus christ in churches is a fallacy because it is not all churches in Nigeria that have painting of Jesus christ.. Bro, you are guilty of having a white master same way as you accuse other religious people here. |
Re: "Atheistic Belief Is Also From The White Master" by FOLYKAZE(m): 4:43pm On Oct 11, 2013 |
Logicboy03: Deist? Someone called me theist, another called me pagan....alien called me pantheist. Which one will I follow? Someone wants to redefine atheism. I always bash you with 'concept of God you disbelief'.....dont press my button. |
Re: "Atheistic Belief Is Also From The White Master" by Nobody: 4:54pm On Oct 11, 2013 |
joel lala: lol.....fail. Evolution is science. Science works whether you believe in it or not. It doesnt matter if it was a white man called Darwin who found evolution or a white man Newton that found the universal laws of gravitation or a Japanese man that found the pricinples of robotics- what matters in science is what works or what is fact. Science doesnt ask you to believe. It is there for you to test or investigate or use via the scientific method. There is no master or slave in science- only hpothesis, tests, research, theories and laws. Religion on the other hand, asks you to submit. Submit your brain to the particular religion or to the God of the religion. Your christian religion in particular tells you to submit to a Jewish God. Your brain is useless- the bible is there to think for you. This is why you believe in wizards and witches. Religion is mental slavery. Guess what? Your ancestors were enslaved by that religion both physically and mentally. Go and watch Django then look at the scene that they were flogging a female slave- the slave master doing the flogging was quoting the bible. F4ck you and your f4cking slave religion |
Re: "Atheistic Belief Is Also From The White Master" by macof(m): 4:59pm On Oct 11, 2013 |
FOLYKAZE:desist, atheist, pantheist English is a bastard, na to check dictionary |
Re: "Atheistic Belief Is Also From The White Master" by ooman(m): 5:58pm On Oct 11, 2013 |
Logicboy03: @ Joel Lala perfect reply... |
Re: "Atheistic Belief Is Also From The White Master" by ooman(m): 6:00pm On Oct 11, 2013 |
Logicboy03: another perfect reply....no need for reiteration.... |
Re: "Atheistic Belief Is Also From The White Master" by ooman(m): 6:02pm On Oct 11, 2013 |
Logicboy03: still another perfect....keep up the good work of logic... |
Re: "Atheistic Belief Is Also From The White Master" by Nobody: 6:03pm On Oct 11, 2013 |
Logicboy03: As long as you believe you evolved from apes, you are and will continue to be a white man's slave.. As long as you continue to use the white man's theory or concept to counter religious beliefs or theories, you will also be ensnared by your white masters..if you dont want to be enslaved by the white man, then look for and use our very own african theories to prove christianity/islam as false... |
Re: "Atheistic Belief Is Also From The White Master" by ooman(m): 6:08pm On Oct 11, 2013 |
joel lala: oh, there are some... Ori lababo, aba forisha sile .... meaning, we should have looked into our selfs rather than worship gods.... and i seem to remember a Yoruba story that says that monkey tried to become human by eating some concoctions prescribed by a herbalist, but ate too much so it remained between human and animal and lot more of Yoruba folklore about change in organisms and weak atheism but here is not the place for reiterating myths.... |
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