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Re: Proposed National Conference: A Case For Kwara State by Katsumoto: 4:25pm On Oct 23, 2013 |
hercules07: This is accurate. |
Re: Proposed National Conference: A Case For Kwara State by hercules07: 4:26pm On Oct 23, 2013 |
honifome: that's not true.The fall of ilorin to Fulani is as a result of disunity within.Chivalry was part of the yoruba character, the Ibadans were once betrayed by the Egbas, in atonement, the Egbas allowed the Ibadans to take one of their towns unchallenged, the idiot sent by the ibadans was incompetent and could not even defeat the town, the egbas allowed them to send someone else to sack the town the second time and slates were wiped clean. |
Re: Proposed National Conference: A Case For Kwara State by smajatt(m): 4:43pm On Oct 23, 2013 |
good thread |
Re: Proposed National Conference: A Case For Kwara State by honifome(m): 5:31pm On Oct 23, 2013 |
hercules07:As younger generations,can't we amend our fathers itches? |
Re: Proposed National Conference: A Case For Kwara State by twosquare(m): 6:42pm On Oct 23, 2013 |
silent don: In 1817, Afonja of Ilorin was the Are-OnaAole cursed the Oyo chiefs against d popular notion that he cursed the Yoruba race....No person have d authority or power or might to curse an entire race...Aole doesnt have such pedigree... .not with the use of potion and magic....And Alaafin Aole is not a good person according to history. His leadership was mega-crap!!! |
Re: Proposed National Conference: A Case For Kwara State by bola4dprec(m): 7:09pm On Oct 23, 2013 |
Kwara own better now what about this ? Eko was the land area now known as Lagos Island where the king's palace was built. Modern-day Lagos was founded by the Benin in the sixteenth century. All the Kings of lagos were buried in Benin. They passed on taxes to the Oba of Bini until the British came and explained that there was no need to send taxes to Benin anymore especially as the Benin themselves were paying taxes to Britain. It was during his reign that the direct influence of the Benin on Lagos ended. British came all the way from Europe to rule over southern and Northern protectorate no complaint filed, why cited Ilorin as a case study I hate some Igbomina people. |
Re: Proposed National Conference: A Case For Kwara State by Katsumoto: 7:13pm On Oct 23, 2013 |
bola4dprec: Kwara own better now what about this ? Eko was the land area now known as Lagos Island where the king's palace was built. Modern-day Lagos was founded by the Benin in the sixteenth century. All the Kings of lagos were buried in Benin. They passed on taxes to the Oba of Bini until the British came and explained that there was no need to send taxes to Benin anymore especially as the Benin themselves were paying taxes to Britain. It was during his reign that the direct influence of the Benin on Lagos ended. British came all the way from Europe to rule over southern and Northern protectorate no complaint filed, why cited Ilorin as a case study I hate some Igbomina people. Dude, Please stay on the sidelines; you aren't making any sense. Who didn't complain about the British ruling Nigeria? Is Britain still ruling Nigeria? |
Re: Proposed National Conference: A Case For Kwara State by bola4dprec(m): 7:21pm On Oct 23, 2013 |
Katsumoto:you never know anything indirect rule continue take for instance Henry Okah and James Ibori matters for instance whether you like it on not Fulani is the strongest lineage in the whole world try to pick up sensory faculty |
Re: Proposed National Conference: A Case For Kwara State by Sloan: 7:21pm On Oct 23, 2013 |
bola4dprec: Kwara own better now what about this ? Eko was the land area now known as Lagos Island where the king's palace was built. Modern-day Lagos was founded by the Benin in the sixteenth century. All the Kings of lagos were buried in Benin. They passed on taxes to the Oba of Bini until the British came and explained that there was no need to send taxes to Benin anymore especially as the Benin themselves were paying taxes to Britain. It was during his reign that the direct influence of the Benin on Lagos ended. British came all the way from Europe to rule over southern and Northern protectorate no complaint filed, why cited Ilorin as a case study I hate some Igbomina people. I think you are losing your marbles or better, all the screws in your head! Is it not fool.ishness to hate people because they have made a different decision than yours? Go and join anywhere except the Yoruba SW, we don't want or need you even to feed to our dogs! |
Re: Proposed National Conference: A Case For Kwara State by bola4dprec(m): 7:30pm On Oct 23, 2013 |
It's so hard to forget pain, but it's even harder to remember sweetness. Ilorin remain headquarters of north central under the leadership of mai maritaba seriki Ilory Alh Dr. Zulu Gambari Sheu paaaaaapu Sheu paaaaaaaapu Sloan: |
Re: Proposed National Conference: A Case For Kwara State by Sloan: 7:38pm On Oct 23, 2013 |
bola4dprec: It's so hard to forget pain, but it's even harder to remember sweetness. Ilorin remain headquarters of north central under the leadership of mai maritaba seriki Ilory Alh Dr. Zulu Gambari Sheu paaaaaapu Sheu paaaaaaaapu Zulu Gambari and yourself will get 1 vote each (making 2), so no need for you to die of heart attack just yet! The people who want out will be allowed and you who want to stay can also stay, that is how it will be. I bet in a few years, wa gbe igba bara come to the Western Region to look for jobs and your children, telling us you have a Yoruba name and we will say, sorry you are not from OUR REGION! Go to your chosen Region to get a job to feed your family! |
Re: Proposed National Conference: A Case For Kwara State by bola4dprec(m): 7:44pm On Oct 23, 2013 |
We the people of the Federal Republic of Nigeria Having firmly and solemnly resolve, to live in unity and harmony as one indivisible and indissoluble sovereign nation under God, dedicated to the promotion of inter-African solidarity, world peace, international co-operation and understanding And to provide for a Constitution for the purpose of promoting the good government and welfare of all persons in our country, on the principles of freedom, equality and justice, and for the purpose of consolidating the unity of our people. Forget western region Nigeria is one. There's no need to curse God if you're an ugly duckling. He chooses those strong enough to endure it so that they can guide others who've felt the same. Sloan: |
Re: Proposed National Conference: A Case For Kwara State by Nobody: 8:03pm On Oct 23, 2013 |
Nothing will come out of Jonathan's national conference, it's a ruse in the true sense of the word. But there might be a post election crisis in 2015 that will bring a genuine national conference (depending on the ferocity of the crisis). |
Re: Proposed National Conference: A Case For Kwara State by lertee(f): 8:06pm On Oct 23, 2013 |
bola4dprec: It's so hard to forget pain, but it's even harder to remember sweetness. Ilorin remain headquarters of north central under the leadership of mai maritaba seriki Ilory Alh Dr. Zulu Gambari Sheu paaaaaapu Sheu paaaaaaaapu |
Re: Proposed National Conference: A Case For Kwara State by bola4dprec(m): 8:17pm On Oct 23, 2013 |
comprehend it anyhow lertee: |
Re: Proposed National Conference: A Case For Kwara State by bola4dprec(m): 8:19pm On Oct 23, 2013 |
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Re: Proposed National Conference: A Case For Kwara State by Nobody: 8:41pm On Oct 23, 2013 |
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Re: Proposed National Conference: A Case For Kwara State by Akanbiedu(m): 11:08pm On Oct 23, 2013 |
PStylish: How do you know this, because he said so? I believe OP is working for Jonathan. Jonathan handlers know an alliance between Yoruba and Hausa-Fulani elites will deal a big blow to his 2015 and at such have been working to create enmity between the two. The strategy is to awaken those things that bring division to both. Sudden renaming of UNILAG to Moshood abiola University and release of Major Almustapha are pointers to this. This ilorin issue may not be unconnected. I may be wrong though. |
Re: Proposed National Conference: A Case For Kwara State by jpphilips(m): 8:27am On Oct 24, 2013 |
lygn19: Obigbo LGA in Rivers state |
Re: Proposed National Conference: A Case For Kwara State by Desola(f): 8:36am On Oct 24, 2013 |
Akanbi_edu: Hmmm... |
Re: Proposed National Conference: A Case For Kwara State by BigBlackDick: 9:59am On Oct 24, 2013 |
This thread is superb!!!!!!!!! |
Re: Proposed National Conference: A Case For Kwara State by 0monnakoda: 10:38am On Oct 24, 2013 |
jp philips:Do you mean Oyigbo |
Re: Proposed National Conference: A Case For Kwara State by macof(m): 2:09pm On Oct 24, 2013 |
twosquare: Aole cursed the Oyo chiefs against d popular notion that he cursed the Yoruba race....No person have d authority or power or might to curse an entire race...Aole doesnt have such pedigree... .not with the use of potion and magic....And Alaafin Aole is not a good person according to history. His leadership was mega-crap!!! Who said he cursed the Yoruba race Abeg o park one side He cursed the children of afonja not the Yoruba race |
Re: Proposed National Conference: A Case For Kwara State by macof(m): 2:15pm On Oct 24, 2013 |
bola4dprec: Kwara own better now what about this ? Eko was the land area now known as Lagos Island where the king's palace was built. Modern-day Lagos was founded by the Benin in the sixteenth century. All the Kings of lagos were buried in Benin. They passed on taxes to the Oba of Bini until the British came and explained that there was no need to send taxes to Benin anymore especially as the Benin themselves were paying taxes to Britain. It was during his reign that the direct influence of the Benin on Lagos ended. British came all the way from Europe to rule over southern and Northern protectorate no complaint filed, why cited Ilorin as a case study I hate some Igbomina people. There's no confusion with Eko(Lagos island) or the entire state of Lagos. They are awori people who migrated from Ile-Ife, they know their history and tho a bit sired to Bini due to the long homage pay to them. Awori are full Yoruba, not Edo or any other |
Re: Proposed National Conference: A Case For Kwara State by macof(m): 2:18pm On Oct 24, 2013 |
bola4dprec: you never know anything indirect rule continue take for instance Henry Okah and James Ibori matters for instance whether you like it on not Fulani is the strongest lineage in the whole world try to pick up sensory facultysays someone who has a Yoruba name "bola" |
Re: Proposed National Conference: A Case For Kwara State by Katsumoto: 2:47pm On Oct 24, 2013 |
macof: says someone who has a Yoruba name "bola" That is one of the most severe case of 'Stockholm Syndrome' if his real name isn't Muhammadu. |
Re: Proposed National Conference: A Case For Kwara State by Sloan: 2:52pm On Oct 24, 2013 |
bola4dprec: We the people of the Federal Republic of Nigeria Either you are a little kid not to know that the current constitution was written by the military and corrupt looters without the agreement of the so called "WE" you are celebrating. In any case, WE the people are now interested in crafting a mutually acceptable constitution and there's nothing for you to cry about there because we want a real constitution, not the fraud you are celebrating. |
Re: Proposed National Conference: A Case For Kwara State by bola4dprec(m): 3:59pm On Oct 24, 2013 |
If you are to be baba alawo you are going to make market well walahi you really spoke my mind here Katsumoto: |
Re: Proposed National Conference: A Case For Kwara State by bola4dprec(m): 4:02pm On Oct 24, 2013 |
In fact I am gathered a lot of experience from argument, I really appreciate your brotherhood role you played here but next time try to be more civil thanks for the hint so far. Sloan: |
Re: Proposed National Conference: A Case For Kwara State by twosquare(m): 8:35pm On Oct 24, 2013 |
silent don: In 1817, Afonja of Ilorin was the Are-Ona macof: macof: macof:dats who said it..... |
Re: Proposed National Conference: A Case For Kwara State by birdman(m): 3:23am On Oct 25, 2013 |
shymexx: I took several swipes actually . but yeah, its a forum and we all are just throwing ideas out there, which is a good thing. I admit I could have been more "diplomatic"
I had a back-and-forth with Jarus on this same issue in the past. I will admit I have run into Ilorin Yoruba who are culturally Northern. No offense to Jarus, but in every case you could tell there had been some sort of foreign mind transplant, kind of like black latinos who will rather identify with white latinos against african americans even though they are constantly at the bottom of the ladder. In any case though, the overwhelming population is Yoruba. If there is any concern about them, it would be that their being muslim makes them tolerate hausa/fulani bullsh*t when they should not. But you could make the same arguments for Yoruba christians and the west. We cannot build a true nation without a strong moral foundation. If we dismiss our brothers without a fair shot, we introduce the seed of division that will eventually consume us. In a free, fair referendum, Ilorin is solidly southwest. CyberG: Now, I should mention that consideration about "what they bring to the table" should be jettisoned quickly and deleted from the minds of the Yorubas because this is the BIGGEST problem of Nigeria now because it points to nothing but MATERIALISM which has bred corruption and everything else is an attempt to continue gaining more "materialism" be it tribalism or playing the religion card, etc. The Yorubas while rich, are NOT about materialism, primitive acquisition, etc because you can have everything and no one will ever reckon with you - a good name is better than silver and gold! I think CyberG put it better than I could. Lets not allow political and economic convenience to trump values. |
Re: Proposed National Conference: A Case For Kwara State by Nobody: 11:00am On Oct 25, 2013 |
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