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Re: Nigeria U17 Coach Replies Iran Age-cheating Claim by ladenz(m): 10:09am On Oct 31, 2013 |
to further counteract the myopic argument that an average 17 year old cannot be big I can also testify that I used to play basketball with some secondary school boys in a high class private school in Lekki. these boys were in their school's basketball team and naturally the coach selects the biggest and most fit boys to play. these boys knocked me around as if i was a baby and i was at least 10 years older than them. it is very silly to claim a guy is lying just because of his physical appearance. If someone like balotelli grew up in Ghana or Nigeria most people will stupidly claim that he is an age cheat. same can be said of victor moses 1 Like |
Re: Nigeria U17 Coach Replies Iran Age-cheating Claim by femi9naija(m): 10:14am On Oct 31, 2013 |
ashezbrown: well eaglet all the way, bt all dos boz na baba, i tink the younger ones among them will be 22yrs if am nt mistaking, jst imagine ur junior broda of 17yrs at home, u will understand weller.Shey u wan compare ur brother wey dey munch corn flakes, golden morn and noodles to these players who have been training intensively from u13s. they r truly u17s. at least I know chigozie obasi is a 15 year old ss1 student in Ogun |
Re: Nigeria U17 Coach Replies Iran Age-cheating Claim by innocentchuks(m): 10:37am On Oct 31, 2013 |
100ksales.com: U and ur likes are disgrace to this country those who never appreciate their own,those Swedish with their high an build up u do not see them. I am sure i ur field of endavor u do not have much to offer. |
Re: Nigeria U17 Coach Replies Iran Age-cheating Claim by femi9naija(m): 10:50am On Oct 31, 2013 |
illitrate: tell me this mosquito of brazil is 17this 1 17? he looks older than my brother who is in his late 20s. |
Re: Nigeria U17 Coach Replies Iran Age-cheating Claim by dabossman(m): 12:56pm On Oct 31, 2013 |
nolio: We b 3time champions of dis comptetn but non of d boys eva play 4 madrid,barca,man u,arsenal,chelsea,inter,AC not even celta vigo and u tink say na ordinary. If dese boys are dere tru age, y dont we maintain dem like dis up to super eagles? Luk @ argentina team 2dy,its made up of dat U-17 team from holland 2005 wit d likes of messi,zabaleta, and mascherano in it. Sharawy and neymar are from U-17 2009 for italy and brazil. But pls tel me if u wuld see any of dese boys in super eagles in d nxt 4yr cum 2017. Does it mean dey retire imedi8ly afta U-17? So, this argument is still raging. Guy, you only mentioned 3 players from the Argentine U-20 of 2005. I can counter your argument by naming more Nigerians from that tournament who have played/are playing for the Eagles. Taye Taiwo, Elderson Echiejile, Efe Ambrose, Chinedu Obasi, Mikel Obi, late Olufemi Adebayo, Onyekachi Apam and Sani Keita. Now these Argentines were also part of the team that won that tourney, Gustavo Cabral, Julio Barroso, Lucas Biglia, Pablo Vitti, Patricio Pérez, Emiliano Armenteros, Gabriel Paletta, Nereo Champagne, David Abraham, Rodrigo Archubi, Neri Cardozo, Gustavo Oberman, Lautaro Formica. That is more than half of the winning team. How many of them do you know? How many of them can boast of having more than 10 caps for Argentina at senior level? Some of you fail to realize that U-17 and U-20 championships occur every two years. That means a pool of at least 42 youth players are thrown up every two years. That is 84 by the time the senior World Cup comes up. Can they all graduate to senior level? The answer is a big NO! The present first 11 of Nigeria has at least 7 former youth internationals (Ambrose, Omeruo, Echiejile, Mikel, Onazi, Musa, Ideye) from different generations. Go back and look at the Super Eagles over the years, it is the same trend. Our squad to the last World Cup in SA had at least 11 former youth players. Even world champions Spain have players from different generations in it and not just one set. 6 Likes |
Re: Nigeria U17 Coach Replies Iran Age-cheating Claim by Druss(m): 1:49pm On Oct 31, 2013 |
Why wont the Iranian coach say so when Nigerians are mouthing the same words!! I can even read some idiots on this thread claiming U-17 boys cant play ball. I repeat they are idiots. You fall in with them if you fit with the below - If you cant accept the fact that something good can come out of this country. - If you cant believe that Nigerians can excel in anything in the world. - If you believe that Nigerians can only succeed by cheating. Then my friend you are an idiot and you should should go and join another country. Tufiakwa that my seed looks down on itself the way some clowns on this board do. 1 Like |
Re: Nigeria U17 Coach Replies Iran Age-cheating Claim by naptu2: 2:06pm On Oct 31, 2013 |
Some players that have played for both the Golden Eaglets and the Super Eagles. Nduka Ugbade, Wilson Oruma, Victor Ikpeba, Nwankwo Kanu, Celestine Babayaro, Jonathan Akpoborie, Mikel Obi, Chinedu Ogbuke Obasi, Mobi Oparaku, Godwin Okpara, Karibe Ojigwe, James Obiorah, Christopher Nwosu, Angus Ikeji, Benedict Akwuegbu, Isaac Promise, Precious Monye, Haruna Lukman, Rabiu Ibrahim, John Zaki, Ogenyi Onazi and Kenneth Omeruo. |
Re: Nigeria U17 Coach Replies Iran Age-cheating Claim by Greatihex(m): 6:02pm On Oct 31, 2013 |
ighoosagie: make coach Ali Doustimehr apologize for his comment.. E b lyk say u no play ball 4 ur childhood wey make u dy spewing dis tins. |
Re: Nigeria U17 Coach Replies Iran Age-cheating Claim by xgziem(m): 6:52pm On Oct 31, 2013 |
Some guyz wey dey hia jus dey talk trash o @ 17 I dey play ball wit men its seemz na d ajeboz na em full hia guy meet kpako 17 u go kwere |
Re: Nigeria U17 Coach Replies Iran Age-cheating Claim by francisbiz: 9:56pm On Oct 31, 2013 |
vincentont:The problem you have is that you have a mindset before reading my contribution, so you did not read to understand. I said that at at 16 years or 17 years or 18 years one is out of secondary school, and you said that at age 15 most of the students are in secondary schools - SO THEY SHOULD FINISH AROUND AGE 16 WHICH ALSO FALLS INTO MY ARGUMENT. So how absolutely wrong are we? Besides you should understand that these are all statistical projections, that does not mean that we dont have few students who finish secondary schools at age 14 or age 20. Be that as it may, you are not informed about age statistics of students in Nigeria. My projections are very correct in terms of average age of Nigerian primary school and secondary school leavers. Do more research before you conclude. |
Re: Nigeria U17 Coach Replies Iran Age-cheating Claim by ladenz(m): 9:24am On Nov 01, 2013 |
dabossman: the most sensible argument so far. I doff my hat to you and other guys on this thread who made the effort to do some research before arguing. |
Re: Nigeria U17 Coach Replies Iran Age-cheating Claim by jpphilips(m): 10:20am On Nov 05, 2013 |
ighoosagie: make coach Ali Doustimehr apologize for his comment. our reputation precede us, but the Iranian coach is a stark illiterate |
Re: Nigeria U17 Coach Replies Iran Age-cheating Claim by Simonet: 3:17pm On Nov 05, 2013 |
Personally I look forward to the day when the genuine age of our players will be beyond question. It will help our football so much. They should start with an under 10 team. That way it would be more difficult for players to cheat. Then, they must feed the players well for 5 years. I really don't celebrate our under 17 victories until they produce truly exceptional senior level players, and that can only happen if the players we take to this tournament actually will benefit from 6 years additional experience BEFORE becoming senior players. The absence of this is what is affecting our players careers. Once a European club suspects you are lying about your age, they relegate you somewhat because for instance you are actually an average 19 year old claiming to be an exceptional 16 year old. BIG DIFFERENCE! Victory at under 17 should actually never be an end in itself! |
Re: Nigeria U17 Coach Replies Iran Age-cheating Claim by Simonet: 3:43pm On Nov 05, 2013 |
And i make the above statement without prejudice to whatever other counties are doing. The real, Senior world cup actually shows whose football development program is working. FIFA is partly to blame, they seem to be bribing and pacifying African countries with these age grade cups!! |
Re: Nigeria U17 Coach Replies Iran Age-cheating Claim by Obi1kenobi(m): 3:59pm On Nov 05, 2013 |
I was a bit of a terror to all authorities in secondary school. Always in trouble. Always concocting one mischief or the other. I enjoyed being notorious. Right until I got into serious trouble (attracting a week long suspension) for something I didn't commit. And no one - not even my parents - would believe me. It was a life changing experience that heralded a real change in me. I'm just trying to illustrate the perils of earning a bad reputation for anything. Your integrity would always be questioned - even when it shouldn't. Nigeria has an outstanding winning record in the u-17 competitions that was built on the back of age-cheating. The whole world knew this and we never got any respect for the achievement. So even when we're not guilty of cheating, we're always held in suspicion. It's a natural reaction. We know ourselves in this country. We're not very strong on ethics: whether in the business place, or politics, or law enforcement, or academics. If we see any way to manipulate or bend or circumvent the rules, we do it. It's ingrained in the Nigerian character to look for unethical shortcuts. Majority of Jambites for example cheat - or attempt to cheat - in one way or the other. You can be sure that if FIFA hadn't gone scientific to catch age cheats, we'd still be fielding 26-year-olds like Fortune Chukwudi at U-17. The Iranian coach may be wrong in this particular case but I'm sure he's well aware of Nigeria's strong proclivity over the years to bend the rules in these competitions. |
Re: Nigeria U17 Coach Replies Iran Age-cheating Claim by Simonet: 4:13pm On Nov 05, 2013 |
@jp phillips. Your signature is on point |
Re: Nigeria U17 Coach Replies Iran Age-cheating Claim by okunoba(m): 1:04am On Nov 09, 2013 |
Birth and death certificates registration is compulsery in most countries and this is enforced, so it's not possible for a country like Sweden to field over age players. This is not the case n Nigeria, hence the reason it's so easy to lie about age and get away with it, we simply don't keep these records. |
Re: Nigeria U17 Coach Replies Iran Age-cheating Claim by naptu2: 3:51pm On Nov 10, 2013 |
American golfer Tom Shaw claimed throughout his career on the PGA Tour to have been born on December 13, 1942. He was suspected by some of being older, notably by Frank Hannigan, who as Executive Director of the United States Golf Association paired him with the then-19-year-old Ben Crenshaw and 24-year-old Johnny Miller, both known as fast players, for the first two rounds of the 1971 U.S. Open for his apparent amusement. As it turned out, Hannigan was right; in 1988, Shaw produced a birth certificate proving that he had been born on the same date in 1938, which made him eligible for the Senior PGA Tour (now the Champions Tour) starting with the 1989 The father of UCLA blue chip Shabazz Muhammad was found to be lying about his son’s age: |
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