Sal C: And the bible also told us how peter, paul, james and co died.

italo:

They are different.

Paul never had a Church.

Paul worked with Christ's established Church.

Kumuyi is on his own. Nobody sent him any message and he reports to no one.

He's just a CEO running a business.

italo:

I will if you show me where the Bible says Kumuyi is a "pastor."

Or do you want me to just follow Deeper Life Church tradition?

adsonstone:
1. They have 3more deuterocanonical books than you do. (worthy of note, they were part of the catholic church in the 4th century you claim you compiled the bible....how come you have two different books in one church?)

2. They disagree with your concept of papal infalibility.
3. Baptism by sprinkling is not left out of things they disbelieve in. Infact, they do their infant baptism by imersion.
4. Infant communion.
5. They allow priests to marry (i wonder where you guys learnt that priests shouldnt marry and made it a 'law' in your church).
6. They reject (your concept of) the topic of this thread- purgatory!

chukwudi44:

1.the father is GOD
2.The son is GOD
3.tHE Spirit is GOD
4.ALL three are one GOD
5.Jesus died for our Salvation
6.Jesus rose on the third day
7.Mary remained a perpertual virgin
8.Beleif in the validity of infact baptism
9.Prayers for the dead
10.Veneration of saints
11.Use of Images
12.Beleif on the sacraments
13.Beleif on the docrine of apostolic succession
14.Beleif in the validity of the deutoroncanonms
15.Belief in the validity of scriture + sacred tradition
16.Beleiof in the writings of the early chruch fathers
17.Beleif on the ecumenical councils before the schism

........ETC

amara.lizzy%40y:
if u no longer knw wht to say 2 defend ur purgatory u keep quite n stp divertin 2 cover up.

amara.lizzy%40y:
if u no longer knw wht to say 2 defend ur purgatory u keep quite n stp divertin 2 cover up.

amara.lizzy%40y:
my dear i can't cm and drag wif u ova a dead man. d rich man is stil in hel fire til 2day take it or live it.

adsonstone: Now, to explain the 'assumed purgatory' concept, catholics (eg Sal C) have changed the words of even our Lord Jesus Christ.
Jesus said the rich man was in hell, catholics say its Purgatory.
How pathethic. Smh

adsonstone:

If you say the catholic church is the 'true church' by the reason of the sins protestants accuse you of, and the orthodox is 'more guilty' definitely the orthodox must be the 'more true church'.

-They have 3more deuterocanonical books than you do. (worthy of note, they were part of the catholic church in the 4th century you claim you compiled the bible....how come you have two different books in one church?)

-They disagree with your concept of papal infalibility.
- Baptism by sprinkling is not left out of things they disbelieve in. Infact, they do their infant baptism by imersion.
- Infant communion.
- They allow priests to marry (i wonder where you guys learnt that priests shouldnt marry and made it a 'law' in your church).
- Finally, they reject the topic of this thread- purgatory!

Etc

Sal C: Before you conclude, you can help kingk answer the question I asked him since yesterday.

Enigma:

Nice.

I have a similar compilation of things/doctrines that the Eastern Orthodox (aka Orthodox Catholic Church) disagree with the Roman Catholic church denomination about.

And of course you are right, Eastern Orthodox can actually be said to be the true "Catholics" and not so much the Roman Catholic organisation. Roman Catholic is Roman Catholic --- NOT "the Catholic".

Only by wuruwuru mathematics of 5-4=5 (or some other folly) will someone say that the Roman Catholic organisation is "the Catholic Church".

italo:

Please just tell me where 1Cor3:15 is referring to.

Heaven or hell.

Jehovah's Witness JMAN05 even says it is earth.

I have answered one million questions on this thread already.

People hardly answer mine.

adsonstone:

Paul did not state that.

adsonstone:
Though, we can reason and draw likely locations they can be (which may not be the exact).

adsonstone:
Before we start that reasoning, I'll like you to answer this.

Where exactly is Abraham's bosom?
Is it heaven, or is it also in hell or maybe a place on its own?

adsonstone:
Yes, people feel compassion in hell.

Reason: Jesus said the rich man was in hell....and we know he felt remorse and compassion.
Or do you want me to change what Jesus said?

adsonstone:


pls, put it down for Chukwudi44 and educate him, he said the roman catholic and orthodox are 99.9999% in doctrinal concordance.

ajayikayod:

Mr, d bible is not a yes or no letters. U study to know. I gave u an option for us to study all u do is give me a yes or no. Bad students do dt.

italo:

Its the easiest question in the world.

Where is 1 Cor 3:15 talking about...heaven, hell or earth?

Attempting questions is also a vital part of learning.

My teachers often started their lectures with questions - teasers. And I passed my exams.

Answer if you can, then go on to expantiate.

But if you cant answer, dont bother.

adsonstone:

about that one, it has been concluded.
Jesus said Hell, you and the catholic church say purgatory. Will you deny or will you eat your words?

By the way, what did u ask kingk?

italo:

Its the easiest question in the world.

Where is 1 Cor 3:15 talking about...heaven, hell or earth?

Attempting questions is also a vital part of learning.

My teachers often started their lectures with questions - teasers. And I passed my exams.

Answer if you can, then go on to expantiate.

But if you cant answer, dont bother.

amara.lizzy%40y:
y won't i quote u, wen u were d one dat quoted me first. did u c italo deny wht he says abt d rich man yet ur hear takn his para. i believ u guys dn't knw any oda tin 2 say dan going roundabout arguing.

adsonstone:

who does your pope report to?
Tell me.

adsonstone:

who does your pope report to?
Tell me.

italo:


To the Church, even though he is the visible head, Peter.

Kumuyi reports to no one but himself. He is neither Peter nor Paul. He is a false teacher, not of the fold.

He is just the sole-entrepreneur to his business empire.

ajayikayod:

If u put in better effort to study d pretext u will kno it refered to all believers building (service to God) to be tested by fire. Dt includes Paul, Mary, Popes, u etc.

From ur claim on purgatory as d location of d fire trial, dt means Paul, Mary (ur beloved mother Mary), Ur Popes hav all been to d purgatory. If i draw further on ur believe dt d purgatory is meant to clean some sins. That means Paul, Mary, Popes hav all suffered thr becos definately no one is absolutely righteous (pure) in obeying d law.

U better be ready too because u mit burn hard.

six one:

Which visible head Peter? By what means? Reincarnation? Was peter called father in contrast to what Jesus taught that no religious figure should be called father on earth? Your ignorance is really increasing

six one:

Which visible head Peter? By what means? Reincarnation? Was peter called father in contrast to what Jesus taught that no religious figure should be called father on earth? Your ignorance is really increasing

six one:

And why is italo dodging this post? Too complicated for His brain to comprehend?

ajayikayod:

Dt showed in all ur post. But a bad approach to d scripture. Go study bro and stop treating d scripture lik ur school materials, u ll fail excellently.

adsonstone:

they're not different just as Paul's churches are not different from Christ's church. If you cant interprete for yourself, its advisable to go to the Church to be on the safe side

Enigma:

Did you not see when the apostle Peter wore a tiara and crowns?

Did you not see the apostle Peter resplendent and living in opulence in The Vatican?

Did you not see the apostle Peter having other "bishops" and "cardinals" kissing his ring and his feet?

Did you not see the apostle Peter wearing his papal robes, clothes, fisherman's rings etc?

Did you not know that the apostle Peter was NOT married?

And so on and so on and on and on .........