It's interesting that when we want to hire in Nigeria, we think certificates/paper qualifications first, before skills

Should organizations and recruiters not be encouraging prospective candidates to focus less on paper qualifications, and more of skills?

nitrogen: Hmmmmmm!



Oh yes, that's has been the trend and may continue to be, the system wants the best, and the people in the system once advised/and still advise to take more courses to boost your chances, the system isn't big enough to contain/absorb all, so it wants those that are over-qualified (with excess qualifications). What do we do? dance to the system's tune of course, but think of it this way, there is a big difference between the over-qualified and under-qualified, yes, you do not need to spend much to train the over-qualified.



The best recruiters can do is this, 'recruit them, and leave their unnecessary qualifications, recruit them and remunerate them like the others-those without those certs (so far the experience is not there)', by doing that, the craze for more qualifications will be discouraged and eliminated. That is just the only solution, else, the trend will continue and the worse will happen.

PS, This recruiters started this and they should be the one to finish it.

esere826: well, supply always seeks to meet demand

if all coys in nigeria (including the gov) starts hiring based on skills only
I am quite sure that many candidates will abandon the search for certificates

in such a scenario, the new challenge for recruiters will be the quickest and cheapest way to ascertain applicants skill level
in such a world, I guess this will in turn soon lead to certifications to measure peoples skills

emmanuel ewumi:




But the guy with the best academic qualification, does not have to be one with the best skill for the job. Ajanlekoko wants us to focus on both the academic and the skill required for a job.
I prefer work experience to master degrees

esere826: There is a big gap between theoretical learning and actual practice

Actual practice na 3D, it comes with bad Indian managers a certain mix of tools that cannot be possibly thaught in traditional education
except maybe the school gave its students some internships

esere826: Now imagine this,


someone reads about NL from books and then goes for an interview organised by Seun for an NL mod position
Seun asks him how does he react online when a troll pastes an advert on his thread?

You can see from the question above that if u never get into that circumstance before e go hard to answer
If you say that you report to MOD, and Seun asks u how long does it usually take MOD to reply,...what reply u wan give?

But if Seun ask me,......I go give am expert reply
i go tell am say the MOD dey craze, say im no gree answer
that i then went ahead to bash the MOD for being an Igbo, and got banned for dat

Seun will immediately know that I am an expert Nairalander like Ishilove

nitrogen: Wait! During a recruitment exercise, how do you know how skilful Mr X is within hours and without incurring solid expenses? Cos if it is through a session where the candidate talks about his experience and what have we, then the fella without experience can make up his own since he's got the theoretical skills.

PS. Sorry for the lil digression.

esere826: There is a big gap between theoretical learning and actual practice

Actual practice na 3D, it comes with bad Indian managers a certain mix of tools that cannot be possibly thaught in traditional education
except maybe the school gave its students some internships

AjanleKoko: It's interesting that when we want to hire in Nigeria, we think certificates/paper qualifications first, before skills.
I didn't really appreciate the impact, or how deep this was, until recently.

I am currently looking to hire someone for a particular project, and I noticed that all the CVs I got did not really reflect the skill set I was searching for. But I got a lot of CVs with serious qualifications, and even IT certifications. When I discussed with a colleague she was like 'What level of qualification are you looking for? OND, HND, BSC or Masters Degree?' To be candid, that had not even entered my mind.

I can understand the candidates accumulating qualifications in a bid to get noticed. But what I don't get is the recruiters piling on the demand for more than the required qualifications, and not paying attention to the requisite skills a candidate has to offer. Personally, I think the MBA craze has done a fundamental damage to the job market, and turned it into a mere rat race. You have a lot of candidates, mostly with qualifications and no real skills, in a market that's highly undeveloped. Should organizations and recruiters not be encouraging prospective candidates to focus less on paper qualifications, and more of skills?

Some years back, there was this Chevron recruitment for OND-qualified engineers. I know of at least five people who were actually university graduates, but because they had earlier acquired an OND, they were able to get in. Ironic, isn't it?

AjanleKoko:
Some years back, there was this Chevron recruitment for OND-qualified engineers. I know of at least five people who were actually university graduates, but because they had earlier acquired an OND, they were able to get in. Ironic, isn't it?

AjanleKoko: It's interesting that when we want to hire in Nigeria, we think certificates/paper qualifications first, before skills.
I didn't really appreciate the impact, or how deep this was, until recently.

I am currently looking to hire someone for a particular project, and I noticed that all the CVs I got did not really reflect the skill set I was searching for. But I got a lot of CVs with serious qualifications, and even IT certifications. When I discussed with a colleague she was like 'What level of qualification are you looking for? OND, HND, BSC or Masters Degree?' To be candid, that had not even entered my mind.

I can understand the candidates accumulating qualifications in a bid to get noticed. But what I don't get is the recruiters piling on the demand for more than the required qualifications, and not paying attention to the requisite skills a candidate has to offer. Personally, I think the MBA craze has done a fundamental damage to the job market, and turned it into a mere rat race. You have a lot of candidates, mostly with qualifications and no real skills, in a market that's highly undeveloped. Should organizations and recruiters not be encouraging prospective candidates to focus less on paper qualifications, and more of skills?

Some years back, there was this Chevron recruitment for OND-qualified engineers. I know of at least five people who were actually university graduates, but because they had earlier acquired an OND, they were able to get in. Ironic, isn't it?

esere826: Now imagine this,


someone reads about NL from books and then goes for an interview organised by Seun for an NL mod position
Seun asks him how does he react online when a troll pastes an advert on his thread?

You can see from the question above that if u never get into that circumstance before e go hard to answer
If you say that you report to MOD, and Seun asks u how long does it usually take MOD to reply,...what reply u wan give?

But if Seun ask me,......I go give am expert reply
i go tell am say the MOD dey craze, say im no gree answer
that i then went ahead to bash the MOD for being an Igbo, and got banned for dat

Seun will immediately know that I am an expert Nairalander like Ishilove

AjanleKoko:

The structures are there already.
If I want to hire freshers (as in fresh out of school) for any type of job, there are test regimes I can administer to access their level of proficiency.
I don't need to stress on qualifications, unless I am looking for truly brilliant people to help me build the Death Star, or something equally inconceivable It's just that recruiters are lazy, and are always looking for short cuts, plus the obvious Naija factor. You can automate the shortlisting and testing process easily

esere826: Now imagine this,


[size=23pt]someone reads about NL from books and then goes for an interview organised by Seun for an NL mod position
Seun asks him how does he react online when a troll pastes an advert on his thread?
You can see from the question above that if u never get into that circumstance before e go hard to answer[/size]
If you say that you report to MOD, and Seun asks u how long does it usually take MOD to reply,...what reply u wan give?

But if Seun ask me,......I go give am expert reply
i go tell am say the MOD dey craze, say im no gree answer
that i then went ahead to bash the MOD for being an Igbo, and got banned for dat

Seun will immediately know that I am an expert Nairalander like Ishilove

Ola one:
University books nowadays have what we call "simulation"

Sorry, I meant foreign unis

Ola one:
University books nowadays have what we call "simulation"

Sorry, I meant foreign unis

esere826:


Na lie, it is not yet that granular
It is more of case studies that are thaught which gives one a big pix view
some give experiental learning which is more about experiencing general soft skills like leadership


I actually think that simulation, when someone brings it to the market, could be a big money spinner
I am presently looking into it 'casually'

esere826:




I actually think that simulation, when someone brings it to the market, could be a big money spinner
I am presently looking into it 'casually'

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AjanleKoko:

Is that so?

Ola one: The simulation is even on 2 of my [i]old [/i]USBs. I can upload it sef

AjanleKoko:

Be there derailing my thread oh
Strategy ko, simulation ni. Na strategy go build my ecommerce portal wey I dey find programmer for?

Wallie: I think the fundamental issue is supply far out-stripping demand. When you only have 2 positions open and you get 1000 applications, you need an objective way of disqualifying a large majority of the applicants before looking at subjective qualifications. Certifications/degrees are used as the "gateman." For you to see oga, you must have the necessary degree because oga is too busy to see everybody that walks in.

However, the smart applicants will have the requisite minimum degree and/or respond directly to the skills sought.

With regard to MBAs, most reputable schools in the US won’t admit an MBA applicant without real world experience because most companies won’t be interested in your after graduation.