Ok @another...day2:now I wish I didn't cave on thursday..it'd have been a whole week of no maturb*tion

The thing is that you went several days without giving in to the fleshly temptation. Celebrate that victory and continue to strive for longer and longer intervals between lapses. You will succeed!

op keep it up!

AnOlderAmerican: The thing is that you went several days without giving in to the fleshly temptation. Celebrate that victory and continue to strive for longer and longer intervals between lapses. You will succeed!

thanks so very much...thanks freda...I just wish other NLanders will get to see this and maybe join in

I feel very good about vincvin's ability to conIrol the urges to engage in the unclean habit and to regain mastery over his body leading it around and not him being led by it; even food and water in excess are bad for us. This process will involve honesty and all must answer the questions truthfully or NEVER GET WELL.

Vincvin these are here for the general public, you will receive yours with specific instruction via enmail.
Question 1.

1. Are you afraid that others will discover the serious depth of your addiction?
2. Have you masturbated during work, school, or religious services?
3. Do you feel guilty about masturbating?
4. Do you feel dirty?
5. Do you feel that masturbation is "out of control?"
6. Are you also being unfaithful?
7. How many hours of porn do you watch in an average week?
8. Do you masturbate when you feel bored?
9. Do you masturbate to reward yourself?
10. Do you masturbate to one climax/orgasm or multiple?

Questions 2.

1. Are you unable to concentrate at work or study contemplating the act of self servicing?
2. DO YOU HAVE A SPIRITUAL CORE BELIEF SYSTEM?
3. WHAT ARE YOUR PERSONAL RELIGIOUS VIEWS ON MASTURBATION?
4. Do you fantasize while self abusing about violent, rough sex, rape, bondage, erotic bazaar sexual scenes involving group sex, two women and one man two men and one woman, same sex relations, or sex with animals?
5. Did you begin to masturbate alone or with peers of same sex and age?
6. Were you sexually molested?
If applicable. Was the victim male of female?
Was the person ever brought to Justice?
7. Have you ever participated in Mental Health or Sexual Addiction Therapy?
8. Are you able to display self governing in other aspects of your life such as eating, alcoholic beverages, spending, gambling...
9. Can you BE PAINFULLY HONEST WITH YOUR SELF?
10. Name 4 things below that set you off. What thoughts lead to masturbation?

For many today, sin is an unacceptable concept. Some use “sin” humorously as an old-fashioned term to describe human foibles. They do not realize that “we must all be made manifest before the judgment seat of the Christ, that each one may get his award for the things done through the body, according to the things he has practiced, whether it is good or vile.” (2 Corinthians 5:10) Others may make the casual remark: “I can resist anything but temptation!”

Some people live in a culture that thrives on instant gratification, whether it involves food, sex, fun, or achievement. Not only do they want everything but they want it right now! (Luke 15:12)

They do not look beyond immediate pleasure to the future joy of “the real life.” (1 Timothy 6:19) The Bible, however, teaches us to think carefully and to be far-sighted, keeping clear of anything that would harm us spiritually or otherwise. Says an inspired proverb: “The shrewd one that has seen the calamity has concealed himself; the inexperienced that have passed along have suffered the penalty.”—Proverbs 27:12.4 

When Paul wrote to Christians living in Corinth—a city known for its moral depravity—he offered a realistic warning against temptation and the power of sin. He said: “Let him that thinks he is standing beware that he does not fall. No temptation has taken you except what is common to men. But God is faithful, and he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear, but along with the temptation he will also make the way out in order for you to be able to endure it.” (1 Corinthians 10:12, 13)

All of us—young and old, male and female—encounter many temptations in school, at work, or elsewhere. Let us, therefore, examine Paul’s words and see what meaning they have for us.Do Not Be Overconfident5 Paul states: “Let him that thinks he is standing beware that he does not fall.” Overconfidence about our moral strength is risky. It betrays a lack of understanding of the nature and power of sin. Since people like Moses, David, Solomon, and the apostle Peter fell into sin,
should we feel that we are not vulnerable? (Numbers 20:2-13; 2 Samuel 11:1-27; 1 Kings 11:1-6; Matthew 26:69-75)

“The wise one fears and is turning away from badness, but the stupid is becoming furious and self-confident,” says Proverbs 14:16. Moreover, Jesus said: ‘The spirit is eager, but the flesh is weak.’ (Matthew 26:41)

Since no imperfect human is immune to corrupt appetites, we need to take Paul’s warning seriously and resist temptation, or we take the risk of falling.—Jeremiah 17:9.


1 John 1: 8 If we make the statement: “We have no sin,”+ we are misleading* ourselves+ and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confessional our sins,+ he is faithful and righteous so as to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.+10 If we make the statement: “We have not sinned,” we are making him a liar, and his word is not in us.+

It is wise to prepare for trouble that may occur unexpectedly. King Asa recognized that a period of peace was the right time for him to build his defenses. (2 Chronicles 14:2, 6, 7) He knew that it would be too late to prepare at the moment of attack. Similarly, decisions about what to do when temptations arise are best made with a cool head in the peace of untroubled moments. (Psalm 63:6)

Daniel and his God-fearing friends made their decision to be faithful to the law of Jehovah before they were pressured to eat the king’s delicacies. Hence, they did not hesitate to stick to their convictions and not partake of unclean food. (Daniel 1: Before tempting situations arise, let us strengthen our resolve to remain morally clean. Then we will be able toresist sin. What comfort we derive from Paul’s words: “No temptation has taken you except what is common to men”! (1 Corinthians 10:13)

The apostle Peter wrote: “Take your stand against [the Devil], solid in the faith, knowing that the same things in the way of sufferings are being accomplished in the entire association of your brothers in the world.” (1 Peter 5:9) Yes, others have faced similar temptations and have successfully resisted them with God’s help, and so can we. However, as true Christians living in a depraved world, all of us can expect to be tempted sooner or later. How, then, can we be confident of victory over human weakness and temptation to sin?

We Can Resist Temptation!

A basic way to quit “being slaves to sin” is to avoid temptation when possible. (Romans 6:6) 

Proverbs 4:14, 15 urges us: “Into the path of the wicked ones do not enter, and do not walk straight on into the way of the bad ones. Shun it, do not pass along by it; turn aside from it, and pass along.” We often know beforehand whether a certain set of circumstances would likely lead to sin. Therefore, the obvious thing to do as Christians is to “pass along,” staying away from anyone and anything and any place that could kindle wrong desires and inflame us with unclean passions.9 Running away from a tempting situation is another basic step toward victory over temptation. Paul counseled: “Flee from fornication.” (1 Corinthians 6:18) And he wrote: “Flee from idolatry.” (1 Corinthians 10:14)

The apostle also warned Timothy to flee from an inordinate yearning for material riches, as well as “from the desires incidental to youth.”—2 Timothy 2:22; 1 Timothy 6:9-11.10

 Consider the case of Israel’s King David. As he gazed from his palace roof, he saw a beautiful woman bathing, and wrong desires filled his heart. He should have left the roof and fled from the temptation. Instead, he inquired about this woman—Bath-sheba—and the results were devastating. (2 Samuel 11:1–12:23) On the other hand, how did Joseph act when his master’s immoral wife urged him to lie down with her? The account tells us: “As she spoke to Joseph day after day he never listened to her to lie alongside her, to continue with her.” Even without the commands of the Mosaic Law, which had not yet been given, Joseph answered her by saying: “How could I commit this great badness and actually sin against God?” One day she grabbed hold of him, saying: “Lie down with me!” Did Joseph stay there and try to reason with her? No. He “took to flight and went on outside.” Joseph did not give sexual temptation a chance to overtake him. He fled!—Genesis 39:7-16.11 

Running away is sometimes considered cowardly, but physically removing ourselves from a situation is often the wise course to take. Perhaps we are experiencing a recurring temptation at work. Though we may not be able to change jobs, there may be other ways to remove ourselves from tempting circumstances. We need to flee from anything we know to be wrong, and we should be determined to do only what is right. (Amos 5:15)

Elsewhere, fleeing temptation would require avoiding pornographic Internet sites and questionable places of entertainment

. It might also mean discarding a magazine or finding a new set of friends—those who love God and who may be able to help us.
(Proverbs 13:20) Whatever tempts us to sin, we are wise if we determinedly turn our back on it.—Romans 12:9.How Prayer Can Help12 Paul gives this heartening assurance: “God is faithful, and he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear, but along with the temptation he will also make the way out in order for you to be able to endure it.” (1 Corinthians 10:13) One way that Jehovah assists us is by answering our prayers for his help in coping with temptation. Jesus Christ taught us to pray: “Do not bring us into temptation, but deliver us from the wicked one.” (Matthew 6:13) In response to such heartfelt prayer, Jehovah will not abandon us to temptation; he will deliver us from Satan and his crafty acts. (Ephesians 6:11, footnote) We should ask God to help us recognize temptations and have the strength to resist them. If we implore him not to allow us to fail when we are tempted, he will help us so that we are not overreached by Satan, “the wicked one.”13 Especially do we need to pray fervently when confronted by persistent temptation.

Some temptations can cause powerful inner struggles, with thoughts and attitudes that dramatically remind us of how weak we really are. (Psalm 51:5) For instance, what can we do if we are tormented by recollections of some former depraved practice? What if we are tempted to return to it? Rather than merely trying to suppress such feelings, take the matter to Jehovah in prayer—repeatedly if necessary. (Psalm 55:22) With the power of his Word and holy spirit, he can help us to cleanse our mind of unclean inclinations.—Psalm 19:8, 9.14 Noting his apostles’ drowsiness in the garden of Gethsemane, Jesus urged: “Keep on the watch and pray continually, that you may not enter into temptation. The spirit, of course, is eager, but the flesh is weak.” (Matthew 26:41) One way to overcome temptation is to be alert to the various forms that temptation can take and be sensitive to its subtleties. It is also vital that we pray about the temptation without delay so that we may be spiritually equipped to fight it. Because temptation strikes where we are most vulnerable, we cannot resist it alone.

Prayer is essential because the strength that God gives can shore up our defenses against Satan. (Philippians 4:6, 7) We may also need the spiritual assistance and prayers of “the older men of the congregation.”—James 5:13-18.Actively Resist Temptation15 Besides avoiding a temptation when possible, we must actively resist it until it passes or the situation changes. When Jesus was tempted by Satan, he resisted until the Devil went away. (Matthew 4:1-11) The disciple James wrote: “Oppose the Devil, and he will flee from you.” (James 4:7) Resistance begins by fortifying our mind with God’s Word and firmly deciding that we will adhere to his standards.

We do well to memorize and meditate on key scriptures that deal with our specific weakness. It would be wise to find a mature Christian—perhaps an elder—with whom to share our concerns and upon whom we can call for help when temptation strikes.—Proverbs 22:17.16 

The Scriptures urge us to put on the new personality. (Ephesians 4:24) This means allowing Jehovah to mold and change us. Writing to his fellow worker Timothy, Paul said: “Pursue righteousness, godly devotion, faith, love, endurance, mildness of temper. Fight the fine fight of the faith, get a firm hold on the everlasting life for which you were called.” (1 Timothy 6:11, 12)

We can “pursue righteousness” by diligently studying God’s Word in order to get an intimate knowledge of his personality and then by conducting ourselves in accord with his requirements. A full schedule of Christian activities, such as preaching the good news and attending meetings, is also vital. Drawing close to God and taking full advantage of his spiritual provisions will help us to grow spiritually and remain morally upright.—James 4:8.17 Paul assures us that any temptation we experience will never go beyond our God-given ability to deal with it. Jehovah will ‘make the way out so that we are able to endure it.’ (1 Corinthians 10:13)

Indeed, God does not allow a temptation to become so overwhelming that we would lack sufficient spiritual strength to maintain integrity if we continue to rely upon him. He wants us to succeed in actively resisting temptation to do what is wrong in his sight. Moreover, we can have faith in his promise: “I will by no means leave you nor by any means forsake you.”—Hebrews 13:5.18 Paul was not uncertain about the outcome of his personal struggle against human weakness. He did not consider himself a pitiful and impotent pawn of his fleshly desires. On the contrary, he said: “The way I am running is not uncertainly; the way I am directing my blows is so as not to be striking the air; but I pummel my body and lead it as a slave, that, after I have preached to others, I myself should not become disapproved somehow.” (1 Corinthians 9:26, 27)

We too can wage a successful battle against the imperfect flesh. By means of the Scriptures, Bible-based publications, Christian meetings, and mature fellow Christians, our loving heavenly Father provides constant reminders that assist us to pursue an upright course. With his help, we can gain the victory over human weakness!Do You Recall?• What does it mean to ‘mind the flesh’?• How can we prepare for temptation?• What can we do to cope with temptation?• What role does prayer ]The Bible does not teach that we are helpless victims of our fleshly desires.

@vincin
Don't give up even if you slip up once just get back and continue

hope americano here as not scared you off with his chapter like posts
You CAN overcome this

@anolderamerican
i know your intentions are good but ur posts maybe throwing other porn addicts off

Trust me I believe in a spiritual and/or a secular approach to dealing with s e x addictions. The course chosen based upon scripture was tailored specifically for the o.p. who reported a fundamentalism background. As you may be aware, often guilt feelings and shame hinder positive efforts to identify the triggers, carry on a dialog with one's self, substitute the desire with a non sexual mental or physical activity, so the Creator's loving reassurance to HIS creation is a powerful source of comfort, motivation, and dynamic energy to successfully break the habit.

God has done it...

@vinvinc .. I see u dawg.. U be my senior ..
@ anolderamerican, really, u'll scare people off.. and i dont think religion will help, like u only quote d bible, + religious societies are divided over this SS issue..

Started when i was 18, now am 20.. also addicted, am always like: ''Bleep all d girls! i dont need them for shit!''
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Personally i dont think ma5turbation without pron is wrong especialy when ur single, and have a very high sexual drive (like moa).. u'll be kidding urself if u think u remain single nd not wankoff at all, (even a pope once gave in) its almost impossible once uv started, so iv reach a compromise to try and limit d dreaded habit to once in two months, i think thats decent enough, till i find me a gurl.. plus i wont leave all those sperms building up there over time, which could result in prostate cancer ..
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.mind u, iv not drawn a conclusion, this re just my thoughts, if their's any one who's single nd used to wankingoff then stopped suddenly nd stayed clean for up to a year pls speak up, i stand to be corrected.....


So Folks, what do u think?

I only shared GOD'S view of the habit as expressed in the Holy Bible which labels it as an " unclean" act, even a form of idolatry because one makes his male reproductive organ or her genitals the center of the universe while self servicing setting obedience and chastity aside. Furthermore, it is glaringly apparent that you failed to read my complete post before drawing erroneous, harsh, unfavorable conclusions; my posts are packed full of compassion, empathy, understanding, and reasonableness. I suggest you re-examine the facts before you come at or around me. For the record, self service is a sin but isn't a gross sin such as fornication, oral, anal, bestiality, child molestation, murder, stealing, drunkenness, gambling, or spiritism...however, being an addict and practicing it could put one's eternal destiny at serious risk!

To the 18 y/o:



The fact that you feel unhappy and tbat something is wrong reveals just how troubled you are. Now, the one million naira question is do you really want to slow down to a halt the self servicing or go cold turkey?

Smokers who desire Christian baptism are afforded a period of 6 months to rid themselves of tobacco. The True God is loving and understanding, but, is not to be mocked, he knows sincere efforts from mere temporary expressions of guilt and shame.

I feel 2 days ago jeez feeling guilty

@anolderamerican
Its the length of your posts not the content. Good work tho

JynxDane: @vinvinc .. I see u dawg.. U be my senior ..
@ anolderamerican, really, u'll scare people off.. and i dont think religion will help, like u only quote d bible, + religious societies are divided over this SS issue..

Started when i was 18, now am 20.. also addicted, am always like: ''Bleep all d girls! i dont need them for shit!''
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Personally i dont think ma5turbation without pron is wrong especialy when ur single, and have a very high sexual drive (like moa).. u'll be kidding urself if u think u remain single nd not wankoff at all, (even a pope once gave in) its almost impossible once uv started, so iv reach a compromise to try and limit d dreaded habit to once in two months, i think thats decent enough, till i find me a gurl.. plus i wont leave all those sperms building up there over time, which could result in prostate cancer ..
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.mind u, iv not drawn a conclusion, this re just my thoughts, if their's any one who's single nd used to wankingoff then stopped suddenly nd stayed clean for up to a year pls speak up, i stand to be corrected.....


So Folks, what do u think?

the poster wants to wean himself off - its gotten to the point where its affecting his daily life and productivity already. He needs to gain control and stop letting it rule his life. Good to know you have gotten control - sp3rm doesnt build up bros na lie no link to prostrate cancer either.

Sperm can not build up as it is either released during involuntary nocturnal emissions or while urinating.

anolderamerican:

Sperm can not build up as it is either released during involuntary nocturnal emissions or while urinating.
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Salsera
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the poster wants to wean himself off - its gotten to the point where its affecting his daily life and productivity already. He needs to gain control and stop letting it rule his life. Good to know you have gotten control - sp3rm doesnt build up bros na lie no link to prostrate cancer either.

@anolderamerican... Oh really..

@Salsera.. true, there used to be a time like that but not anymore, its not worth it...

@both of u.. So there's no danger in storing up sperms¿¿ ... Tell that to this researchers:..

Sex Reduces Risk for Prostate Cancer
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In 2003, Australian researchers published a study showing that the more often men ejaculate between the ages of 20 and 50, the less likely they are to develop prostate cancer. According to the author of the study, men in their 20s should probably be ejaculating once a day. A similar study performed a year later by the National Cancer Institute showed that men who ejaculated at least five times a week, whether through sex or masturbation, were less likely to get prostate cancer. "The claim physiologically," Goldstein told us, "is that if you empty out the tank every so often, it's healthier than holding onto the material within the tank."

http://funmikemmy..com/2013/11/revealed-12-ways-sex-helps-you-live.html

@anolderamerican

true, i didnt finish ur post, stopped when u started quoting all those bible pages.. (av got to take some responsibilities, God wont solve all my problems, if he was ment to then why install a brain in my skull?) .. ..
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guess i was too forward wif my counter religion chants though.... Merci..

You have to try as much to stop objectifyin girls,thats d root of your prob.Also,daily bible readin makes ur mind lighter.

Thank you guys for your contributions. I'd already abandoned this thread..I caved again..it felt good having abstained for days .I had given up nd. Hd decided to just continue !but nw....I really do nEed help.I want to stop!...so sorry anOlderamerican american..I feel like I have failed you,all of you.

enomasly: I feel 2 days ago jeez feeling guilty

hey enomasly.

Mmmm. And i taught mine was worse, bros u started early oo. Well i'm in too but i would wanna stop. Smhw it always kicks bak in, im sure u undastnd na. Well hearing ur benefits, im gonna start from tonite. God so help me to survive dis time. Pls could u guys liv bible out of it, lets tlk outsyd of it abeg.

Vincin am here : i had also abandoned d thread b4 and uche i was even about sugestin we drop d bible stuff its kinda iirrkkkyy maybe we cud get a routine or somtin

vincvin: Thank you guys for your contributions. I'd already abandoned this thread..I caved again..it felt good having abstained for days .I had given up nd. Hd decided to just continue !but nw....I really do nEed help.I want to stop!...so sorry anOlderamerican american..I feel like I have failed you,all of you.

you haven't failed anybody,keep fighting and you will get there.

OmoKhary: you haven't failed anybody,keep fighting and you will get there.

ok.thanks

Uchexxy: Mmmm. And i taught mine was worse, bros u started early oo. Well i'm in too but i would wanna stop. Smhw it always kicks bak in, im sure u undastnd na. Well hearing ur benefits, im gonna start from tonite. God so help me to survive dis time. Pls could u guys liv bible out of it, lets tlk outsyd of it abeg.

great! Strting all over and I'm determined nt to fail this time. strt by deleting d porn on ur phone.

AnOlderAmerican: Trust me I believe in a spiritual and/or a secular approach to dealing with s e x addictions. The course chosen based upon scripture was tailored specifically for the o.p. who reported a fundamentalism background. As you may be aware, often guilt feelings and shame hinder positive efforts to identify the triggers, carry on a dialog with one's self, substitute the desire with a non sexual mental or physical activity, so the Creator's loving reassurance to HIS creation is a powerful source of comfort, motivation, and dynamic energy to successfully break the habit.

ok maybe you should try the secular approach

Again the only way to overcome any addiction is to recognize a higher power that you are incapable of overcoming it alone without assistance. That higher power could even be a supportive friend.

Everybody who has suffered a lapse and relapse SHOULD be CONCERNED. As they are WARNING SIGNS SIGNALING FULL LOSS
Of SEXUAL CONTROL MAY FOLLOW.

Do not play mind games comvincing yourself you have no self control and you are going to relapse anyway so why not today

If you give in to weakness, temptation, fleshly desires and m a s t u r b a t e once or twice a week it isn't as bad as every day, to illustrate; "one or two fried plantain chips doesn't equal a whole bag of plantain chips".

Keep a calender, check off thr days of abstinence and put a downward facing (No religious significance attached ) arrow on days that you self serviced.

Has this been helpful?

Would you welcome more posts?

AnOlderAmerican: Again the only way to overcome any addiction is to recognize a higher power that you are incapable of overcoming it alone without assistance. That higher power could even be a supportive friend.

Everybody who has suffered a lapse and relapse SHOULD be CONCERNED. As they are WARNING SIGNS SIGNALING FULL LOSS
Of SEXUAL CONTROL MAY FOLLOW.

Do not play mind games comvincing yourself you have no self control and you are going to relapse anyway so why not today

If you give in to weakness, temptation, fleshly desires and m a s t u r b a t e once or twice a week it isn't as bad as every day, to illustrate; "one or two fried plantain chips doesn't equal a whole bag of plantain chips".

Keep a calender, check off thr days of abstinence and put a downward facing (No religious significance attached ) arrow on days that you self serviced.

1:Has this been helpful?

2:Would you welcome more posts?

1:yes 2:yes

PERIOD 1. 30 DAYS YOU CAN NOT EXCEED " 10 " TIMES SO SPACE YOUR SELF SERVICING AND KEEP ACCURATE RECORD

PERIOD 2. 30 DAYS YOU CAN NOT EXCEED "8" TIMES SO SPACE YOUR SELF SERVICING and keep accurate record

PERIOD 3. 30 DAYS YOU CAN NOT EXCEED "6" TIMES SO SPACE self servicing and Keep accurate record

PERIOD 4. 30 DAYS YOU CAN NOT EXCEED "5" Times SO SPACE YOUR SELF SERVICING and Keep accurate record

PERIOD 5. 30 DAYS YOU CAN NOT EXCEED "3" Times So space Your Self servicing and Keep accurate record

Period 6. 30 DAYS YOU CAN NOT Exceed "1" time. Record occasion

If you believe you can commit to the above regimen. Sign on and begin today!