ilugunboy:

Can you please shut up if you have no better argument to put up here!

All these silly comparisons should stop...!

So because Boeing recently grounded their new aircrafts because engine faults in high altitude flights (BTW..where did you get that ridiculous claim from) means we should forever forgo ordering new aircrafts for our national carrier....?

Something is definitely wrong with the psyche of some of these lunkheads defending this utterly absurd act.

your psyche is reducing at a geometrical rate as your life span

People should stop being emotional by erroneously asserting the Govt bought old planes.

The new carrier involves Aero contractors cos of the FG stake via AMCON. The Aircraft in question is one of those in Aero fleet repainted to begin business as the Nigeria Eagle.

While that is on, the article says 10 new aircraft are sourced for, with deliveries expected in March next year.

I see no reasons for the ceaseless convulsions on this thread, just to bash this development .

Tex42:
That the plane is 20urs old does not mean it will eventually crash the day it airlift passengers 4rm MMA. Talking 4rm a safety engr. perspective, the plane can cover the length and breadth of planet earth provided it is certified 'mechanically safe' to fly, so what's the ish abt this age thing?!
Our train and even some of our cars Don pass 20yrs without any crash/accident because they are mechanically safe.
But that one no mean say I no want make them to buy new plane 4d national carrier oo!, b4 una quote me.
#teamchangeintheAviationsector.

plane na motor, ship or train? Infact who pay you to write this thing here? GEJ or STELLA?

ilugunboy:

You see Tinubu always chasing you every time..?

or you are purposely assigned as laptop dog number TINUBU?


You laptop dogs are doing a poor job on this thread.....your explanations are not adding up.

This is a project that would have been under planning for like three years now....and all we have for the inaugural ceremony is a 20 years old plane....

You people should fear God nah!

dry joke....coming from someone who feels so insecure

Whatever, as long as the disaster won't affect the good citizens of our country.

Hope Jona and Oduah fly on it to kick off the launch?

Ladies and gentlemen, lets forget about political party and other sentiments for a moment and do a simple experiment. Assuming this is real life and you planned to travel to United States from Nigeria. When you got to the Airport, you were presented with an opportunity to board one of two aircrafts. You were given privy information about the two aircrafts as follows:
Aircraft A: well maintained but 25-year old.
Aircraft B: 5-year old but poorly maintained.

The question now is which of the two aircrafts will you board- Aircraft A or Aircraft B?

The planes age is not a problem, but maintenance culture, old planes still fly EU airspace but with new engines and periodic maintenance.

Aircraft A without a doubt.

Ngwakwe: 20 years old aircraft can be new aircraft depending on approved standards.

What has been the rate of usage?

Refurbished or/and Upgraded?

Were the Engines changed with new types?

Extended Maintenance should be the keyword.

The problem with some peeps is their literal interpretation of the word Refurbish and Upgrade.

please save us the crap, a 20 year old plane is as good as old even if its refurbished.

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fabulous4u:
dry joke....coming from someone who feels so insecure

fabulous4u:
your psyche is reducing at a geometrical rate as your life span

As a matter of policy..I don't respond to cowards or non-conformists that are perpetually under Moderators ban.

Come clean with your real ID....you registered this new ID on 24th Nov primarily to go round a ban.

I expect the mods to be on your case anyway.

Billyonaire: Congratulations to all Nigerians, after years of mismanagement and sale of our National Carrier, GEJ has done it for us. Nigerian Eagle, beginning operations with almost 30 planes is commendable.

Is it 30 planes? So what are these jobless malcontents moaning about?

so dem nor deh probe this thieving biatch again of her thieveryNaija and corruption...So dem don forget dis issueperson weh soppose deh jail deh commisionis she sucking JEGs pennis nior wot she did aint a crime again

It nor concern AYE which plane or who maintain am...Who be d person weh deh commision am.person weh soppose deh jail??and small boy go steal mobile phone dem go deh sentence am to death by hanging

Sincere 9gerian: Ladies and gentlemen, lets forget about political party and other sentiments for a moment and do a simple experiment. Assuming this is real life and you planned to travel to United States from Nigeria. When you got to the Airport, you were presented with an opportunity to board one of two aircrafts. You were given privy information about the two aircrafts as follows:
Aircraft A: well maintained but 25-year old.
Aircraft B: 5-year old but poorly maintained.

The question now is which of the two aircrafts will you board- Aircraft A or Aircraft B?

ROSSIKE: Aircraft A without a doubt.

Very easy decision. Same for me. I'm waiting for the response of the e-warriors.

I do not care what a 4cking news you got....

Your source does not exist.

http://nationalmirroronline.net/new/national-carrier-inauguration-oduah-presents-20-yr-old-plane-to-jonathan/MOBILE_PORTAL_URL?url=%2Fnew%2Fnational-carrier-inauguration-oduah-presents-20-yr-old-plane-to-jonathan%2F

Berem said that sincere Nigerian is mumu because he spoke the truth about how aircraft is being handled. Berem your submission on this issue is still full with the hate you have for this govt and not your knowledge on aviation matters.

awodman:
What is wrong with starting with what you have at the moment?...the bolded above shows clearly that new aircrafts will be added to the fleet come March 2014..then why exactly the hue and cry?...we all know aircrafts are not bought off shelf but pre-ordered...Pls our Journalists should spare us this idiotic sensationalisms

Exactly, some people here do have slow brains in the morning or just ignorant, I dont even think for once they are flying planes that are not up to standadrs abroad cos they wont let them land ie London,If you ever get on the Circle lines in London you would know that this is the oldest underground system in the world, same track still most same trains, just mordernized intanaly.Our problem here in Nigeria is we lack mentainance culture, we have to get new al the time.ATthe moment when we have more fliers from Nigeria, this new window need to open sharp sharp, I will patronize.

cyril10: Berem said that sincere Nigerian is mumu because he spoke the truth about how aircraft is being handled. Berem your submission on this issue is still full with the hate you have for this govt and not your knowledge on aviation matters.

V correct obs.

Sincere 9gerian: Ladies and gentlemen, lets forget about political party and other sentiments for a moment and do a simple experiment. Assuming this is real life and you planned to travel to United States from Nigeria. When you got to the Airport, you were presented with an opportunity to board one of two aircrafts. You were given privy information about the two aircrafts as follows:
Aircraft A: well maintained but 25-year old.
Aircraft B: 5-year old but poorly maintained.

The question now is which of the two aircrafts will you board- Aircraft A or Aircraft B?

Those complaining about age are just ignorant, British airways, Lufthansa, alitalia, air France and those low cost airlines have older planes in their fleets, but most of the engines have been changed and periodically maintained, and are safe for EU airspace.

Nigeria have a bad maintenance culture, even those shouting "old plane" can't even maintain their cars as it should.

The only way we could get our maintenance culture right is to build on workable institutions and that what I understand GEJ is trying to do.
With a workable institutions u can't skip or ignore maintenance schedule. Even those those diasporans shouting foul here knows that's how it works.

ROSSIKE: Is it 30 planes? So what are these jobless malcontents moaning about?

Cos they hate progresss as far as its comming from the SS

Sincere 9gerian: Ladies and gentlemen, lets forget about political party and other sentiments for a moment and do a simple experiment. Assuming this is real life and you planned to travel to United States from Nigeria. When you got to the Airport, you were presented with an opportunity to board one of two aircrafts. You were given privy information about the two aircrafts as follows:
Aircraft A: well maintained but 25-year old.
Aircraft B: 5-year old but poorly maintained.

The question now is which of the two aircrafts will you board- Aircraft A or Aircraft B?

I will tell you this for nothing; with Aircraft 'A' having changed owners a few times since it shipped from its manufacturer, it stands to reason that you are dealing with a few extra unknowns vis-a-vis maintenance regime. As I cautioned earlier, we need to be very clear about the standards we are prepared to accept going forward and do away with the type of unhelpful platitudes usually substituted for sound reasoning.

Returning to address one of your earlier points; the fact that a number of international airlines are still flying older planes is largely down to economy consideration and nothing more. When you are starting afresh, as is the case with our new national carrier, your interests are best served with a clean slate. Thankfully, unlike the pack of misfits that you lead on these boards, even Madam Oduah understands this much.

Aircraft age limit: Four airlines may close down

JULY 23, 2012
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The Minister of Aviation, Mrs. Stella Oduah, had at the Safety Conference of African Aviation Ministers in Abuja on Thursday said the government was already considering lowering the age limit of aircraft that could operate in the country to 15 years.

She admitted that the policy could have a short-term negative impact on the desire to encourage the growth of domestic airlines but added that the issue should be how to strengthen and enhance airlines’ viability as business concerns.

She added, “We will continue to encourage domestic airlines not only to grow in their individual capacities but also to consolidate wherever possible, so as to pool resources together for the emergence of more stable, viable and profitable airlines.”

Statistics on age and histories of Nigerian airlines’ planes obtained from planespotters.net showed that at least 38 out of the 64 Nigerian commercial planes were over 15 years old.

It means that approximately 60 per cent of commercial planes being flown by the domestic airlines face ban over the proposed policy.

The statistics from the planespotters.net showed that apart from the plane that crashed, Dana currently has four Boeing McDonnell Douglass 83 planes that are over 15 years.

All the three Airbus A320-200 in FirstNation’s fleet are over 15 years, according to planespotters.net. Also, all the five Fokker 100 planes in IRS’s fleet are over 15 years old.

All the four Boeing 737-200 and two Boeing 737-300 in Chanchangi’s fleet are over 15 years old.

The three ATR 42 planes in Overland Airways’ fleet are also over 15 years. The age of the two Beechcraft 1900D could not be determined from planespotters.net as of press time.

According to planespotters.net, 11 out of the 12 planes registered under Aero Contractors are over 15 years old. These are seven Boeing 737-500s and four 737-400s. The 12th plane, which is a De Havilland Canada Dash 8, is 12.9 years old.

Also, four out of the 12 planes registered under Air Nigeria are over 15 years old. These are three Boeing 737-300s and one Boeing 737-400. The other planes in the airline’s fleet are less than 15 years. These are five Boeing 737-300, one Airbus A330-200 that is just 6.7 years and two Embraer 190 jets that are about three years. Air Nigeria has, however, returned about four Boeing 737-300 to its lessor, GECAS.

All the 21 planes registered under a major commercial airline in Nigeria are less than 15 years, according to planespotters.net. The ages range from two to 11 years. The airline has Boeing, Airbus and De Havilland Canadian-made planes.

Source

p town man: You have said it all but GoD no go gree them lick our blood

To Him we reserve all our hope in.

If Gej does not sack Stella BMW Oduah.
Then Nigerian should be ready to see more plane crash in her tenure, of which i don't pray for. Little do Nigerians know that aircraft above 20 years
is presumed to be operating above the life
cycle of that aircraft.
while some sentimental and tribalistic creatures will think otherwise.

eGuerrilla:

The hen has come home to roost!

Peace be unto this house! Haba!

Godshand:

Yeah! Thanks, i've tried googles and culdnt get it. Some guys had actually mentioned it on this forum. Just that i missed that thread. Anyone wit the information shld respond pls. Thanks!

Try type the keywords of the said post in the search box and use the "local search" button. I hope that helps!

@ theoctopus,
I may think you are fool. What do you mean we should leave her alone, a 20yr old plane to carry load and combust. A thousand feets above sea level only to come and burst into flames when it touches the ground. Why can't we get only 10 or 5 brand new planes and then manage that one than have 20 which pose as death traps for teeming nigerians wch even our relative may board any of them... Abeg behave o or you sleep

ngozievergreen: So, oduah is still functioning?
Does that mean the Yoruba propaganda didn't work after all?
Respect

you this tribalist fool. why bring in yoruba into the discourse? can't you do without bigotry statement? please don't derail this thread cos your attackers are reading on the sidelines.