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Re: Women Wearing Trousers: Conversation With A Brother by haibe(m): 8:23am On Dec 06, 2013
Goshen360:
You cherry pick the law where suitable to justify your opinion.

That is the I.D of a hypocrite.

Imagine SisterMe saying, Deuteronomy 22:5 applies to christians but Deuteronomy 22:11 does not, I cannot but SMH!!
Re: Women Wearing Trousers: Conversation With A Brother by raficki87(m): 8:31am On Dec 06, 2013
Nnamdikko: Believe me, no matter how decent a trouser may look, it still has it's way of attracting men.
Don't be deceived!
Make no mistake!
so what about the girls who no matter what they wear it attracts guys wella small waist and wide hips should they remain indoors for life becuz men would think unholy thoughts abt them? or they should be wearing iro and buba etc under this hot sun every day of their lifes

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Re: Women Wearing Trousers: Conversation With A Brother by Zeeworld: 8:41am On Dec 06, 2013
I'm not surprise though., generation of vIpers, looking 4 d slightest opportunity to hold on to. Repent or go to Hell
Re: Women Wearing Trousers: Conversation With A Brother by Paultue: 8:44am On Dec 06, 2013
When the bible says that which partaneth, its talking about the nature of a person and not dressing per say. Its talking about your nature as a man or woman. Take for example, its natural for a man to get married to a woman and not man to man or woman to woman. Thats what that scripture is dealing with. Study your bible very well. Thanks

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Re: Women Wearing Trousers: Conversation With A Brother by Izz9111: 9:03am On Dec 06, 2013
Trousers in History

In Asia both women and men have long worn pants for warmth, comfort, and convenience. In Rome and Greece women and men wore tunics.
In the fourth century, women in the Western world wore pants, which they adapted from the Persians. At that time, pants were considered unmanly.
By the Middle Ages in Europe women were wearing dresses and men were wearing breeches.
After the French Revolution, men took off their high heels, silk stockings, and wigs and began wearing trousers.

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Re: Women Wearing Trousers: Conversation With A Brother by haibe(m): 9:21am On Dec 06, 2013
HISTORY OF TROUSERS

Trousers first enter recorded history in the
6th century BCE, with the appearance of
horse-riding Iranian peoples in Greek
ethnography . At this time, not only the
Persians , but also allied Eastern and Central
Asian peoples such as the Bactrians,
Armenians , Tigraxauda Scythians and
Xiongnu Hunnu, are known to have worn
them. [5][6] Trousers are believed to have
been worn by both sexes among these early
users. [7]

EXTRACTED FROM WIKIPEDIA
Re: Women Wearing Trousers: Conversation With A Brother by haibe(m): 9:28am On Dec 06, 2013
WOMEN WEARING TROUSERS AFTER 1990

Although women had been wearing trousers
for outdoor work thousands of years earlier
in the Western world, by the time of
Christianization it had become taboo for
women to wear trousers. It was Eastern
culture that inspired French designer Paul
Poiret (1879–1944) to become one of the first
to design pants for women. In 1913 Poiret
created loose-fitting, wide-leg trousers for
women called harem pants, which were based
on the costumes of the popular opera
Sheherazade. (Written by Nikola Rimsky-
Korsakov [1844–1908] in 1888, Sheherazade
was based on a famous collection of legends
from the Middle East called 1001 Arabian
Nights.) [34] It was only in the 1960s that
trousers became acceptable wear for Western
women. [35]

EXTRACTED FROM WIKIPEDIA


So it's obvious it is only in the western world that women 'were' not earlier know for trousers but trousers have been worn by both sexes among the early users
Re: Women Wearing Trousers: Conversation With A Brother by haibe(m): 9:31am On Dec 06, 2013
I hope you guys are learning now?

Trousers in the western world was adapted after thousands of years they have been worn by both sexes In other cultures.

Women in the western world also decided to adapt it, so why the discrimination on women only?

We can as well say it is a sin for Western men to wear trousers since women were among the first set to wear trousers in other cultures. .but this doesn't make sense of course, any culture can choose to dictate its wears, no sin.
Re: Women Wearing Trousers: Conversation With A Brother by Nobody: 9:42am On Dec 06, 2013
Mazi_Omenuko: Whenever someone quotes Deut 22:5 for me as a basis for women not to put on trousers; I just ask the person to read the same chapter down to the last verse and tell me if he/she keeps all the laws there-in.
Deuteronomy > 22.9 Thou shalt not sow thy vineyard with divers seeds: lest the fruit of thy seed which thou hast sown, and the fruit of thy vineyard, be defiled.
Meaning, if you plant cassava and maize in the same farmland, you have sinned and ur farm is defiled.
Deuteronomy > 22.11 Thou shalt not wear a garment of divers sorts, as of woollen and linen together.
Meaning; you can't wear a cloth of 70% cotton, 30% linen. It must be linen or silk or cotton all thru.
Now, how many of these old mosaic laws do you keep? Why pick verse 5 and ignore the rest?
Truth is, we are not under the law anymore; so let's stop trying to achieve self righteousness b'cos our righteousness is like a filty rag. The laws of the old testament has been done away in Christ.2 Corinthians > 3.14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.[/b]
It seems some people although they are not Christians just like to argue mainly for the purpose of leading the gullible astray
Those verses are not about farming although it is still good practise to observe them. Who ploughs with an ox and donkey together ? Is that normal. Who sows oats and barley in the same spot?And who sews wool with cotton? Even 100% cotton shirts give the best quality.
Rather it is referring to the law of separation. Meaning that Christians should have no fellowship with unfruitful works of darkness and that they should not be unequally yoked with unbelievers.
Re: Women Wearing Trousers: Conversation With A Brother by Nobody: 9:45am On Dec 06, 2013
haibe: I hope you guys are learning now?
Trousers in the western world was adapted after thousands of years they have been worn by both sexes In other cultures.
Women in the western world also decided to adapt it, so why the discrimination on women only?
We can as well say it is a sin for Western men to wear trousers since women were among the first set to wear trousers in other cultures. .but this doesn't make sense of course, any culture can choose to dictate its wears, no sin.

Truth is that you sound gay. Which man spends all day arguing that women should wear trousers even though it is contrary to scriptures. How does the matter affect you anyway if you're truly a man.

Which church do you go to and what is your real gender?
Re: Women Wearing Trousers: Conversation With A Brother by haibe(m): 9:46am On Dec 06, 2013
tensor777:
It seems some people although they are not Christians just like to argue mainly for the purpose of leading the gullible astray
Those verses are not about farming although it is still good practise to observe them. Who ploughs with an ox and donkey together ? Is that normal. Who sows oats and barley inthe same spot?And who sews wool with cotton? Even 100% cotton shirts give the best quality.
Rather it is referring to the law of separation. Meaning that Christians should have no fellowship with unfruitful works of darkness and that they should not be unequally yoked with unbelievers.

Christians? lol

so you have no better interpretation of Deuteronomy 22:5?? you don't think it means something else like Deuteronomy 22:11?

Brother, you are just not straight.
Re: Women Wearing Trousers: Conversation With A Brother by haibe(m): 9:50am On Dec 06, 2013
tensor777:

Truth is that you sound gay. Which man spends all day arguing that women should wear trousers even though it is contrary to scriptures. How does the matter affect you anyway if you're truly a man.

Which church do you go to and what is your real gender?

The matter affects me because I know how believers who ought to have been saved missed the chance simply because some legalistic preachers go about preaching trousers and the law instead of the gospel.

So I am now female because I am exposing your hypocrisy in cherry picking?

you need help! !

I created this thread for this , if you don't like it don't comment.

btw, I never said women should wear trousers, I said decent trousers are not sinful for ladies.
Re: Women Wearing Trousers: Conversation With A Brother by Nobody: 9:53am On Dec 06, 2013
haibe: I hope you guys are learning now?
Trousers in the western world was adapted after thousands of years they have been worn by both sexes In other cultures.
Women in the western world also decided to adapt it, so why the discrimination on women only?
We can as well say it is a sin for Western men to wear trousers since women were among the first set to wear trousers in other cultures. .but this doesn't make sense of course, any culture can choose to dictate its wears, no sin.
They say by their fruits you shall know them. So to your mind culture should dictate a person's dressing not the Word of God and the Holy Spirit.
And why bring up strawman other cultures argument when we are talking about present day Nigerian culture. Lets get down to brass tacks here. Indian women may and do wear decent trousers under their sari BUT the trousers Nigerian ladies wear to churches in Nigeria are very indecent and highly inappropriate.
Now talking about discrimination. Are men arguing to wear skirts or to leave their hair covered in church.
You don't at all sound like a Christian. So what are you doing here?
Re: Women Wearing Trousers: Conversation With A Brother by haibe(m): 9:58am On Dec 06, 2013
tensor777:
They say by their fruits you shall know them. So to your mind culture should dictate a person's dressing not the Word of God and the Holy Spirit.
And why bring up strawman other cultures argument when we are talking about present day Nigerian culture. Lets get down to brass tacks here. Indian women may and do wear decent trousers under their sari BUT the trousers Nigerian ladies wear to churches in Nigeria are very indecent and highly inappropriate.
Now talking about discrimination. Are men arguing to wear skirts or to leave their hair covered in church.
You don't at all sound like a Christian. So what are you doing here?

And I ask, where does the word of God say a trousers must be a man's clothing only.

were robes not worn by both sexes?

It seems you are not in a brain mood, I have not encouraged inappropriate or indecent trousers here, and do not make generalisations without being 100% sure, if you have seen women on indecent trousers it doesn't mean all nigerian women wear indecent trousers.
Re: Women Wearing Trousers: Conversation With A Brother by Nobody: 9:58am On Dec 06, 2013
haibe:
Christians? lol
so you have no better interpretation of Deuteronomy 22:5?? you don't think it means something else like Deuteronomy 22:11?
There you go again. Who are you to fault my interpretation of scripture. What authority do you have to do this and under what power are you putting up these pointless arguments on this thread?
Once again What church do you go to?
Re: Women Wearing Trousers: Conversation With A Brother by haibe(m): 10:00am On Dec 06, 2013
tensor777:
There you go again. Who are you to fault my interpretation of scripture. What authority do you have to do this and under what power are you putting up these pointless arguments on this thread?
Once again What church do you go to?

you interpreted Deuteronomy 22:11 in a stylish way to avoid criticisms and accusations.

And I ask what of Deuteronomy 22:5?
Re: Women Wearing Trousers: Conversation With A Brother by haibe(m): 10:07am On Dec 06, 2013
tensor777:
Those verses are not about farming although it is still good practise to observe them. Who ploughs with an ox and donkey together ?

So this is your own interpretation of that verse right? A vineyard is a house abi?

Don't be a pharisees, if you want to be under the law, then obey all..how is that so hard for someone that loves to keep the law?
Re: Women Wearing Trousers: Conversation With A Brother by Nobody: 10:07am On Dec 06, 2013
haibe:
And I ask, where does the word of God say a trousers must be a man's clothing only.
were robes not worn by both sexes?
It seems you are not in a brain mood, I have not encouraged inappropriate or indecent trousers here, and do not make generalisations without being 100% sure, if you have seen women on indecent trousers it doesn't mean all nigerian women wear indecent trousers.
The bible talks about male clothing and female clothing. Do I need to break it down further. Meaning clothing appropriate for the male anatomy and clothing appropriate for the female anatomy. And no the bible does not need to mention trousers singlets and socks before you get the picture except you just want to argue.

I have told you what I feel about the inappropriate trousers ladies wear to church in Nigeria. And it is highly indecent also. You can take that on board if you like.
However the wise Christian ladies in Nigeria should simply wear long skirts and blouse or iro and buba to church. Its as simple as that.
Re: Women Wearing Trousers: Conversation With A Brother by haibe(m): 10:13am On Dec 06, 2013
tensor777:
The bible talks about male clothing and female clothing. Do I need to break it down further. Meaning clothing appropriate for the male anatomy and clothing appropriate for the female anatomy. And no the bible does not need to mention trousers singlets and socks before you get the picture except you just want to argue.

I have told you what I feel about the inappropriate trousers ladies wear to church in Nigeria. And it is highly indecent also. You can take that on board if you like.
However the wise Christian ladies in Nigeria should simply wear long skirts and blouse or iro and buba to church. Its as simple as that.

Was it right for male and female to wear robes in the bible age?

you seem to be diverting the topic to decency or indecency, so all the ladies you see in england that wears trousers are indecent?

Once again, don't make generalisations without being 100% sure, can you proudly go out and say ALL NIGERIAN WOMEN THAT WEAR TROUSERS ARE INDECENT?
Re: Women Wearing Trousers: Conversation With A Brother by haibe(m): 10:15am On Dec 06, 2013
tensor777:
However the wise Christian ladies in Nigeria should simply wear long skirts and blouse or iro and buba to church. Its as simple as that.

Okay they should wear iro and buba to church but can wear trouser suits to office right?

Preachers like you only turn people to hypocrites
Re: Women Wearing Trousers: Conversation With A Brother by amaralizzy40y: 10:21am On Dec 06, 2013
Dn't let devil decieve u cos if he do so, he wil kill u and distroy u. There is a way dat seem right unto a man but d end of dat road is total destruction.
Re: Women Wearing Trousers: Conversation With A Brother by Nobody: 10:22am On Dec 06, 2013
haibe:
Was it right for male and female to wear robes in the bible age?
you seem to be diverting the topic to decency or indecency, so all the ladies you see in england that wears trousers are indecent?
Once again, don't make generalisations without being 100% sure, can you proudly go out and say ALL NIGERIAN WOMEN THAT WEAR TROUSERS ARE INDECENT?
You are the one making the argument for ladies to wear trousers not me. So why are you asking me whether all Nigerian women that wear trousers wear indecent ones? Besides we are talking about Christian ladies not unbelievers who can basically wear what they like in a free country
To me Nigerian Christian women should simply not wear trousers either to the church or to the office. I've already told you what they should wear.
Re: Women Wearing Trousers: Conversation With A Brother by haibe(m): 10:25am On Dec 06, 2013
tensor777:
You are the one making the argument for ladies to wear trousers not me. So why are you asking whether all Nigerian women that wear trousers wear indecent ones? Besides we are talking about Christian ladies not unbelievers who can basically wear what they like in a free country
To me Nigerian Christian women should simply not wear trousers either to the church or to the office. I've already told you what they should wear.

I am not making any argument for ladies to wear trousers, I am saying ladies wearing trousers is fine provided they are decent

What of shirts, can they wear shirts to work?
Re: Women Wearing Trousers: Conversation With A Brother by haibe(m): 10:26am On Dec 06, 2013
tensor777: Ladies shouldn't wear trousers to work but iro and buba... grin I will store this in my archive
Re: Women Wearing Trousers: Conversation With A Brother by Timijo(m): 10:30am On Dec 06, 2013
vickyO:
Did I say it was directed at me? I just laughed at your claims. Cause it sounded delusional to me.
The carnal mind cannot understand the things of the Spirit.
Keep on following the multitudes.
Re: Women Wearing Trousers: Conversation With A Brother by Nobody: 10:32am On Dec 06, 2013
haibe:

What of shirts, should they wear shirts to work?
Nigerian Christian Ladies should wear blouses to work. Why would they want to wear male shirts for goodness sake?
Re: Women Wearing Trousers: Conversation With A Brother by amaralizzy40y: 10:33am On Dec 06, 2013
[quote
author=amara.lizzy%40y]Dn't let devil decieve u cos if he do so, he wil
kill u and distroy u. There is a way dat seem right unto a man but d
end of dat road is total destruction. devil is moving like hungry lion seeking 4 whom to devour.[/quote]
Re: Women Wearing Trousers: Conversation With A Brother by haibe(m): 10:34am On Dec 06, 2013
tensor777:
Nigerian Christian Ladies should wear blouses to work. Why would they want to wear male shirts for goodness sake?

According to Image123 blouses are also shirts, how can you reconcile this with your claim?

Also can you put on a female's shirt?
Re: Women Wearing Trousers: Conversation With A Brother by Timijo(m): 10:35am On Dec 06, 2013
haibe:

ok sir, don't judge calling people messengers of satan too, afterall you may later find out you have been wrong all the while
What name do you expect me to call people who are sent by the devil to spread his doctrines like a wild fire in this end time?
Re: Women Wearing Trousers: Conversation With A Brother by Nobody: 10:37am On Dec 06, 2013
haibe:

According to Image123 blouses are also shirts, how can you reconcile this with your claim?

Also can you put on a female's shirt?

Am I Image123? What concerns me with what he wrote? You need to take that up with him when he comes back.
And why would I want to put on a blouse/female shirt?
Re: Women Wearing Trousers: Conversation With A Brother by haibe(m): 10:38am On Dec 06, 2013
Timijo: What name do you expect me to call people who are sent by the devil to spread his doctrines like a wild fire in this end time?

This your comment is disrespectful, what if they were never sent by the devil but to make people focus on the important things in christendom?
Re: Women Wearing Trousers: Conversation With A Brother by haibe(m): 10:39am On Dec 06, 2013
tensor777:

Am I Image123? What concerns me with what he wrote? You need to take that up with him when he comes back.
And why would I want to put on a blouse/female shirt?

Since female's do have their shirts, what is wrong with them wearing it?

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