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| Creation Reveals The Existence Of A Creator by Nobody: 7:03am On Dec 09, 2013 |
FAITH IS BUILT ON EVIDENCE AND SOUND REASONING The Bible teaches us to treasure knowledge. (Prov. 10:14) Jehovah wants our faith in him to be built on evidence and sound reasoning, not on human philosophy or religious traditions. (Read Hebrews 11:1.) To build strong faith in God, we must first be convinced that Jehovah exists. (Read Hebrews 11:6.) We arrive at that conclusion, not by wishful thinking, but by examining the facts and by using our “power of reason.”—Rom. 12:1. The apostle Paul provides one reason why we can be convinced that God exists, even though we cannot see him. Regarding Jehovah, Paul wrote: “His invisible qualities are clearly seen from the world’s creation onward, because they are perceived by the things made, even his eternal power and Godship.” (Rom. 1:20) How might you help someone who doubts the existence of God to see the truthfulness of Paul’s inspired words? You could consider some of the following evidence from creation that reveals our Creator’s power and wisdom. GOD’S POWER EVIDENT IN CREATION Jehovah’s power is revealed in two shields that keep us safe—the earth’s atmosphere and its magnetic field. The atmosphere, for example, does more than provide us with air to breathe. It also shields us from the majority of the debris that hurtles through space. Chunks of rock that could cause massive damage usually burn up on entering the earth’s atmosphere, creating beautiful bright streaks of light in the night sky. The earth’s magnetic field also protects us from harm. This shield originates deep inside the earth. The earth’s outer core, mostly made of molten iron, generates a powerful magnetic field that envelops us and stretches far into space. This field safeguards us from the radiation emanating from solar flares and explosions in the outer regions of the sun. Thanks to the earth’s magnetic field, these bursts of energy do not scorch all life on the surface of our globe. Instead, they are absorbed and deflected. We see evidence of our magnetic shield at work in the gorgeous multicolored light displays that dance in the sky near the North and South poles. Without a doubt, Jehovah is “vigorous in power.”—Read Isaiah 40:26. GOD’S WISDOM REVEALED IN NATURE Jehovah’s wisdom is revealed in the cycles that sustain life on earth. To illustrate: Imagine living in a densely populated walled city that had no way of importing fresh water or exporting waste products. Such a city would soon become filthy and uninhabitable. In some respects, our earth is like that walled city. It contains a finite amount of fresh water, and we can hardly export waste products into outer space. This “walled city,” however, is able to support billions of creatures, generation after generation. Why? Because of its amazing ability to recycle or exchange the products vital for life. Consider the oxygen cycle. Billions of creatures take in oxygen and give off carbon dioxide. Even so, the supply of oxygen never runs out, and the atmosphere never becomes choked with the “waste” gas, carbon dioxide. Why not? The answer is found in an amazing process known as photosynthesis. Using this process, green vegetation takes in carbon dioxide, water, sunlight, and nutrients and produces carbohydrates and oxygen. When we take in oxygen, we complete the cycle. In a literal way, Jehovah uses the vegetation that he designed to give “to all persons life and breath.” (Acts 17:25) What remarkable wisdom! Jehovah’s brilliance is also revealed in the multitude of creatures that inhabit our remarkable planet. Estimates of the number of species on earth vary from 2 million to 100 million. (Read Psalm 104:24.) Note the wisdom evident in the design of just some of these creatures. The monarch butterfly, for example, has a brain that is only about the size of the tip of a ballpoint pen. Yet, that butterfly has the ability and skill to migrate some 1,800 miles (nearly 3,000 km) from Canada to a particular forest in Mexico, using the sun to help it navigate. How does it manage when the sun shifts across the sky? Jehovah designed its minute brain with the ability to compensate for the sun’s movement. Or consider the eye of the dragonfly. This creature sees by means of two compound eyes. Each eye has some 30,000 individual lenses. Even so, the dragonfly’s tiny brain is able to decipher the signals transmitted from all those lenses and detect the slightest movement in its environment. Even more impressive is the way that Jehovah designed the cells that make up all living creatures. Your body, for instance, is made up of about 100 trillion cells. Inside each of those cells is a tiny ropelike structure known as DNA (deoxyribonucleic acid). It stores most of the information needed to build your entire body. How much information does DNA contain? Compare the storage capacity of one gram of DNA with that of a compact disc (CD). A CD can store all the information contained in a dictionary, which is impressive considering that a CD is merely a thin disc of plastic. However, just one gram of DNA can store as much information as one trillion CDs! To put it another way, a single teaspoonful of dried DNA can store enough information to build 350 times as many humans as are alive today! meeeeeeeen!!! cant people see? King David described the information needed to build a human body as being written in a figurative book. Speaking of Jehovah God, he said: “Your eyes saw even the embryo of me, and in your book all its parts were down in writing, as regards the days when they were formed and there was not yet one among them.” (Ps. 139:16) Understandably, David was moved to praise Jehovah when he considered the way his own body was created. The discoveries made by scientists in recent years have only added to the awe we feel when we contemplate the way that Jehovah made us. These discoveries give us added reason for agreeing with the psalmist who wrote of Jehovah: “I shall laud you because in a fear-inspiring way I am wonderfully made. Your works are wonderful, as my soul is very well aware.” (Ps. 139:14) Really, how could people not see that creation reveals the existence of a living God? 4 Likes |
| Re: Creation Reveals The Existence Of A Creator by truthislight: 8:02am On Dec 09, 2013 |
^ ^ ^ True! I completely agree with that ^. |
| Re: Creation Reveals The Existence Of A Creator by Kay17: 11:42am On Dec 09, 2013 |
The problems of the above: 1. The limitation of language. As long as you keep using the pair "Creator and Creation" , cosomological problems will remain elusive. Such terms have its own baggage with unnecessary assumptions which further burden and deny clarity. Generally, cosmology necessitates causes, yet the word Creator by its natural meaning negates the need for a cause, that if used for any phenomenon such a chair, our mind suddenly cease to make further inquiries about the chair. Just as the mere use of Creator is same with Creation, creation is naturally tied to creator, it readily appeals, yet it is still shallow thinking. 2. You have not still proven the Being of God, rather you mistake Being for consequences. You are not talking about God, rather about the complex and beauty of nature/universe. You are talking about Nature, not God. Since you have not led evidence as to God's Being, then we cannot intelligibly know his actions or deeds! 3. I'm sure you believe God is the single and only exception that everything is designed. The undesigned God. |
| Re: Creation Reveals The Existence Of A Creator by Nobody: 2:48pm On Dec 09, 2013 |
Kay 17: The problems of the above: Ya the undesigned God. the uncaused. You ve not also stated anything to show he does not exist. My write up shows that their must be an intelligent designer who is endowed with wisdom and power to bring what humans cannot be able to make into existence. That it is unreasonable to assert that chance did the work. 1 Like |
| Re: Creation Reveals The Existence Of A Creator by Kay17: 4:59pm On Dec 09, 2013 |
JMAN05: Why can we say God is uncaused and a pen isn't or the multiverse? |
| Re: Creation Reveals The Existence Of A Creator by truthislight: 5:24pm On Dec 09, 2013 |
Kay 17: The problems of the above: You ^ lack the nacessary capacity to know/understand the intricacies of design and procedural functions in bringing about a functional system, hence you narrow mindlessly give in to chance when you see/read one. But for them that appreciates the rigors, meticulousness needed to partan a process even imperfectly to work will surely wonder with great wonderment in the attainment and perfection of such marvels in nature let alone to let it constantly fly for as a "chance", devoid of intelligence even when the process is perfect. What else but shallow ? Just shallow. Smh. 1 Like |
| Re: Creation Reveals The Existence Of A Creator by truthislight: 5:37pm On Dec 09, 2013 |
Kay 17: what has that ^ to do with the obviouse reality of intelligence apparent in nature ?(though you cant comprehen). The obviouse is very obviouse for the decerning mind. The mare fact that you ascribed a none intelligence to a super designed process that even the best minds in man can only labour to copy at a very low success rate shows you are lacking at an angle i dare not say here. No wonder! |
| Re: Creation Reveals The Existence Of A Creator by Nobody: 5:38pm On Dec 09, 2013 |
Kay 17: There is no scientific prove of it, but science will agree that this uncaused MUST be invisible, intelligent and has a great power. His word shows He did the work. |
| Re: Creation Reveals The Existence Of A Creator by Kay17: 12:33pm On Dec 10, 2013 |
@truthislight Can an intelligent being such as a man be uncaused? What is the scientific proof for uncaused? |
| Re: Creation Reveals The Existence Of A Creator by Emusan(m): 3:56pm On Dec 10, 2013 |
Kay 17: The problems of the above: Kay 17 longest time now  You and Ooman just disappear on this forum  It has been long I talk about science but let's do a little exercise Choose one from these two 1) Finite--it means Big Bang occurred and the universe has a boundary 1)Infinite--it means Big Bang didn't occur and the universe has no boundary Good-luck  |
| Re: Creation Reveals The Existence Of A Creator by Emusan(m): 3:57pm On Dec 10, 2013 |
Kay 17: @truthislight For now we scientist don't have answer to this question  |
| Re: Creation Reveals The Existence Of A Creator by Kay17: 4:56pm On Dec 10, 2013 |
^^ Your "friend" the op said that Science supports the uncaused cause! Longest time oh, you rather disappeared |
| Re: Creation Reveals The Existence Of A Creator by truthislight: 8:09pm On Dec 10, 2013 |
Kay 17: @truthislight If you cannot fully appreciate/comprehend the physical you can see in nature and understand that the intelligence in nature cannot come by chance, why will you be able to comprehend the source of the unseen spiritual(none physical) intelligence that is the source of man ? Charity they say begins at home. |
| Re: Creation Reveals The Existence Of A Creator by Nobody: 10:04am On Dec 11, 2013 |
Kay 17: ^^ Must there be an uncaused cause? your answer. |
| Re: Creation Reveals The Existence Of A Creator by Kay17: 8:21am On Dec 12, 2013 |
JMAN05: For there to be an uncaused cause, such entity lacks the capacity to change, because causation in deed change. A cause is a change, so also an effect. Therefore an uncaused "cause" or God cannot create the universe for the lack of the capacity to change. |
| Re: Creation Reveals The Existence Of A Creator by Kay17: 9:16am On Dec 12, 2013 |
truthislight: The intelligent mind of God itself, can be said to be a Marvel, a marvel that preconceived and reflects the Universe! Would you now shoot yourself in the foot by claiming such marvellous Mind appeared out of nowhere?! Or has been existing since eternity and yet you see a small simple dot, you claim its intelligent design! |
| Re: Creation Reveals The Existence Of A Creator by truthislight: 9:54am On Dec 12, 2013 |
Kay 17: Your inability to comprehend the creator of the universe from your finite mind does not erase the reality we see around us here, that intelligent things exist in reality. Do you denie that ? That you closed your mind to this reality, does that automatically means they came by chance as you will have us belief ? Neither does it means that the status quo with all things had always been this way. If your mind cannot deal with the reality we can see, of what significance is the one above your comprehension going to serve you ? *that a fish living in water to survive cannot comprehend why we humans stay out of water and survive does not change the reality/fact that we humans really can survive out of water* 1 Like |
| Re: Creation Reveals The Existence Of A Creator by truthislight: 9:56am On Dec 12, 2013 |
truthislight: |
| Re: Creation Reveals The Existence Of A Creator by Kay17: 10:21am On Dec 12, 2013 |
truthislight: What do you have to say to specifically address the issue of God's mind? I'm waiting. The Op said the beauty and intricate nature of the Universe suggests a Creator and as a general principle; the beauty and infinite intricate nature of God's Mind suggests a creator also!! |
| Re: Creation Reveals The Existence Of A Creator by truthislight: 5:11pm On Dec 12, 2013 |
"No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him." (John 1:18). I dont know why some of you want to use your mind that he created to disect God, how reasonable is that ? Kay 17: "For who hath known the mind of God, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ." (1 Corinthians 2:16). Even the Demons belief their is God, but they shudder. |
| Re: Creation Reveals The Existence Of A Creator by Kay17: 9:28pm On Dec 12, 2013 |
^^ Truthlight, you are seriously confused along with the OP. Because you don't drag faith into debates, and you don't use special pleadings! If you assert God exists, simply prove so. The Op attempted to prove the existence of God through the intricacy and beauty of the Universe, yet he impliedly suggested that the universe is a reflection of God's mind. Automatically, it begshe question, who created God's Mind. NOW all of a sudden, God is incomprehensible, then why claim he iis the uncaused cause? Why claim he is good? Why calim he isn't the Devil if he is soo incomprehensible?! |
| Re: Creation Reveals The Existence Of A Creator by truthislight: 11:48pm On Dec 12, 2013 |
Oh! Were we debating ? I did not notice that! Kay 17: ^^ but this is what the OP has been trying to tell you below: "For every house is builded by someone; but he that built all things is God." (Hebrews 3:4). ..................... Do you belief that ^ ? When you are able to comprehend that ^ simple basic fact and reality, ring ma belj. 1 Like |
| Re: Creation Reveals The Existence Of A Creator by snthesis(m): 11:57pm On Dec 12, 2013 |
truthislight: Oh! Were we debating ?sowii, dat wud b too complex for "them" to understand. its a case of inferiority/superiority complex. inferiority complex not to appreciate d extent of marvel put in place to create a living cell talk less of a human superiority complex to feel "they" are al wise and cud not have being created by a superior being |
| Re: Creation Reveals The Existence Of A Creator by Redlyn: 2:20am On Dec 13, 2013 |
Complex so must have been created by another complex entity. However this last one is so complex he doesnt need to have been created. The way the religious reason. Just making stuff up as they go along. Can a religious person say I don't know? No, they have to invent an explanation for things that are obviously far beyond their understanding like the origin of the universe. |
| Re: Creation Reveals The Existence Of A Creator by Nobody: 6:53am On Dec 13, 2013 |
Kay 17: I take your answer to be yes. ok, How did you arrive at that statement that a cause must change? |
| Re: Creation Reveals The Existence Of A Creator by Kay17: 7:19am On Dec 13, 2013 |
truthislight: Oh! Were we debating ? You still don't see the obvious! God's Mind as a house must be built by somebody, right?! |
| Re: Creation Reveals The Existence Of A Creator by Kay17: 7:25am On Dec 13, 2013 |
JMAN05: Simply to produce an effect! Petrol in your tank will not remain there in infinity while it pushes your car, hot volcanic larva doesn't remain the same to turn into rock. Causality is only possible with change. |
| Re: Creation Reveals The Existence Of A Creator by Nobody: 7:31am On Dec 13, 2013 |
Kay 17: what about the driver, does he change form to control a car? |
| Re: Creation Reveals The Existence Of A Creator by Kay17: 7:47am On Dec 13, 2013 |
JMAN05: Does he expend energy? |
| Re: Creation Reveals The Existence Of A Creator by truthislight: 8:04am On Dec 13, 2013 |
Redlyn: Complex so must have been created by another complex entity. However this last one is so complex he doesnt need to have been created. The way the religious reason. Just making stuff up as they go along. Charity begins at home they say, start fron the one you see in planet earth and show they came by chance. Even the one you see, how absolutely are you able to grasp it, in fact, humans as a whole, are they able to grasp all that happends in nature or they are learning bit by bits ? If so, why jump hastily to the one you cant see to draw absolute conclussions ? Is that ^ a course of wisedom ? Does the evident demonstration of reality in nature support your conclussions ? The house you live in, can it fall from the sky ? Is the sky the place where houses are builth without a builder ? |
| Re: Creation Reveals The Existence Of A Creator by truthislight: 8:08am On Dec 13, 2013 |
Kay 17: You still cant comprehend the basics, that all houses are builth by someone. Just look around you, and think again. Does the evidence supports your conclussions ? |
| Re: Creation Reveals The Existence Of A Creator by truthislight: 8:14am On Dec 13, 2013 |
Kay 17: you are not making sense in that. Do you wish to belief that all you see have always been a constant ? Well, the evidence does not say so. There was a starting point. |
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