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Re: Baker Faces Jail For Refusing To Bake Cake For Gay Couple by dinachi(m): 8:47pm On Dec 10, 2013 |
10 Reasons Why Homosexual “Marriage” is Harmful and Must be Opposed 1. It Is Not Marriage Calling something marriage does not make it marriage. Marriage has always been a covenant between a man and a woman which is by its nature ordered toward the procreation and education of children and the unity and wellbeing of the spouses. The promoters of same-sex “marriage” propose something entirely different. They propose the union between two men or two women. This denies the self-evident biological, physiological, and psychological differences between men and women which find their complementarity in marriage. It also denies the specific primary purpose of marriage: the perpetuation of the human race and the raising of children. Two entirely different things cannot be considered the same thing. 2. It Violates Natural Law Marriage is not just any relationship between human beings. It is a relationship rooted in human nature and thus governed by natural law. Natural law’s most elementary precept is that “good is to be done and pursued, and evil is to be avoided.” By his natural reason, man can perceive what is morally good or bad for him. Thus, he can know the end or purpose of each of his acts and how it is morally wrong to transform the means that help him accomplish an act into the act’s purpose. Any situation which institutionalizes the circumvention of the purpose of the sexual act violates natural law and the objective norm of morality. Being rooted in human nature, natural law is universal and immutable. It applies to the entire human race, equally. It commands and forbids consistently, everywhere and always. Saint Paul taught in the Epistle to the Romans that the natural law is inscribed on the heart of every man. (Rom. 2:14-15) 3. It Always Denies a Child Either a Father or a Mother It is in the child’s best interests that he be raised under the influence of his natural father and mother. This rule is confirmed by the evident difficulties faced by the many children who are orphans or are raised by a single parent, a relative, or a foster parent. The unfortunate situation of these children will be the norm for all children of a same-sex “marriage.” A child of a same-sex “marriage” will always be deprived of either his natural mother or father. He will necessarily be raised by one party who has no blood relationship with him. He will always be deprived of either a mother or a father role model. Same-sex “marriage” ignores a child’s best interests. 4. It Validates and Promotes the Homosexual Lifestyle In the name of the “family,” same-sex “marriage” serves to validate not only such unions but the whole homosexual lifestyle in all its bisexual and transgender variants. Civil laws are structuring principles of man's life in society. As such, they play a very important and sometimes decisive role in influencing patterns of thought and behavior. They externally shape the life of society, but also profoundly modify everyone’s perception and evaluation of forms of behavior. Legal recognition of same-sex “marriage” would necessarily obscure certain basic moral values, devalue traditional marriage, and weaken public morality. 5. It Turns a Moral Wrong into a Civil Right Homosexual activists argue that same-sex “marriage” is a civil rights issue similar to the struggle for racial equality in the 1960s. This is false. First of all, sexual behavior and race are essentially different realities. A man and a woman wanting to marry may be different in their characteristics: one may be black, the other white; one rich, the other poor; or one tall, the other short. None of these differences are insurmountable obstacles to marriage. The two individuals are still man and woman, and thus the requirements of nature are respected. Same-sex “marriage” opposes nature. Two individuals of the same sex, regardless of their race, wealth, stature, erudition or fame, will never be able to marry because of an insurmountable biological impossibility. Secondly, inherited and unchangeable racial traits cannot be compared with non-genetic and changeable behavior. There is simply no analogy between the interracial marriage of a man and a woman and the “marriage” between two individuals of the same sex. 6. It Does Not Create a Family but a Naturally Sterile Union Traditional marriage is usually so fecund that those who would frustrate its end must do violence to nature to prevent the birth of children by using contraception. It naturally tends to create families. On the contrary, same-sex “marriage” is intrinsically sterile. If the “spouses” want a child, they must circumvent nature by costly and artificial means or employ surrogates. The natural tendency of such a union is not to create families. Therefore, we cannot call a same-sex union marriage and give it the benefits of true marriage. 7. It Defeats the State’s Purpose of Benefiting Marriage One of the main reasons why the State bestows numerous benefits on marriage is that by its very nature and design, marriage provides the normal conditions for a stable, affectionate, and moral atmosphere that is beneficial to the upbringing of children—all fruit of the mutual affection of the parents. This aids in perpetuating the nation and strengthening society, an evident interest of the State. Homosexual “marriage” does not provide such conditions. Its primary purpose, objectively speaking, is the personal gratification of two individuals whose union is sterile by nature. It is not entitled, therefore, to the protection the State extends to true marriage. 8. It Imposes Its Acceptance on All Society By legalizing same-sex “marriage,” the State becomes its official and active promoter. The State calls on public officials to officiate at the new civil ceremony, orders public schools to teach its acceptability to children, and punishes any state employee who expresses disapproval. In the private sphere, objecting parents will see their children exposed more than ever to this new “morality,” businesses offering wedding services will be forced to provide them for same-sex unions, and rental property owners will have to agree to accept same-sex couples as tenants. In every situation where marriage affects society, the State will expect Christians and all people of good will to betray their consciences by condoning, through silence or act, an attack on the natural order and Christian morality. 9. It Is the Cutting Edge of the Sexual Revolution In the 1960s, society was pressured to accept all kinds of immoral sexual relationships between men and women. Today we are seeing a new sexual revolution where society is being asked to accept sodomy and same-sex “marriage.” If homosexual “marriage” is universally accepted as the present step in sexual “freedom,” what logical arguments can be used to stop the next steps of incest, pedophilia, bestiality, and other forms of unnatural behavior? Indeed, radical elements of certain “avant garde” subcultures are already advocating such aberrations. The railroading of same-sex “marriage” on the American people makes increasingly clear what homosexual activist Paul Varnell wrote in the Chicago Free Press: "The gay movement, whether we acknowledge it or not, is not a civil rights movement, not even a sexual liberation movement, but a moral revolution aimed at changing people's view of homosexuality." 10. It Offends God This is the most important reason. Whenever one violates the natural moral order established by God, one sins and offends God. Same-sex “marriage” does just this. Accordingly, anyone who professes to love God must be opposed to it. Marriage is not the creature of any State. Rather, it was established by God in Paradise for our first parents, Adam and Eve. As we read in the Book of Genesis: “God created man in His image; in the Divine image he created him; male and female He created them. God blessed them, saying: ‘Be fertile and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it.’” (Gen. 1:28-29) The same was taught by Our Savior Jesus Christ: “From the beginning of the creation, God made them male and female. For this cause a man shall leave his father and mother; and shall cleave to his wife.” (Mark 10:6-7). Genesis also teaches how God punished Sodom and Gomorrah for the sin of homosexuality: “The Lord rained down sulphurous fire upon Sodom and Gomorrah. He overthrew those cities and the whole Plain, together with the inhabitants of the cities and the produce of the soil.” (Gen. 19:24-25) 6 Likes |
Re: Baker Faces Jail For Refusing To Bake Cake For Gay Couple by Kzyah: 8:53pm On Dec 10, 2013 |
breezy047: This is getting out of hand.i tire o. Dem no get handiwork sha. |
Re: Baker Faces Jail For Refusing To Bake Cake For Gay Couple by chynazom(f): 9:17pm On Dec 10, 2013 |
This is just like suing a landlord because he did not rent his apartment to a particular person...*person dey quarrel you for ur own thing* Or suing Mr. Seun cos he did not accept an advertisement *no insult intended* As long as refusal is not done harshly.. 3 Likes |
Re: Baker Faces Jail For Refusing To Bake Cake For Gay Couple by dinachi(m): 9:21pm On Dec 10, 2013 |
chynazom: This is just like suing a landlord because he did not rent his apartment to a particular person...*person dey quarrel you for ur own thing* Perfect! |
Re: Baker Faces Jail For Refusing To Bake Cake For Gay Couple by sowprice(m): 9:23pm On Dec 10, 2013 |
only God knws wt ds world is turnin2.worser dan sodom and gomorah |
Re: Baker Faces Jail For Refusing To Bake Cake For Gay Couple by dinachi(m): 9:28pm On Dec 10, 2013 |
This case is a watershed and I think the man should get a good lawyer to make a mince meat of them. What the government is telling the man is to JETTISON his religious beliefs in favor of homosexuality ! So government now legislate peoples religious beliefs in the US that prides itself as the center of freedom? |
Re: Baker Faces Jail For Refusing To Bake Cake For Gay Couple by VirginFinder: 10:04pm On Dec 10, 2013 |
Romans 1:21-28 21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. 22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, 23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. 24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: 25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. 26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet. 28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; 1 Like |
Re: Baker Faces Jail For Refusing To Bake Cake For Gay Couple by hayubee(m): 10:14pm On Dec 10, 2013 |
Soon it will be compulsory to be an homosexual |
Re: Baker Faces Jail For Refusing To Bake Cake For Gay Couple by TV01(m): 10:20pm On Dec 10, 2013 |
carr101: Stop hating, my LGBT rights doesn't take away your heterosexual rights! It only means we all get to enjoy our inalienable HUMAN rights. Surely this is not too difficult to comprehend?? "Inalienable human rights?" A mans right to rectally penetrate another male - an inalienable human right? Their right to have legal and societal endorsement of such a "relationship" as marriage - an inalienable human right? The right to have the law force everyone to endorse the act as moral and the relationship as valid - an inalienable human right? The act is dehumanising, degrading and dysfunctional. The relationship is disordered, amoral, and a lie, whatever you codify legally. Marriage is and will always remain a male & female union Moral, natural - and if you believe, divine - law all attest to this. And if one believes otherwise, one is alienated. TV 3 Likes |
Re: Baker Faces Jail For Refusing To Bake Cake For Gay Couple by Obiossy(m): 10:21pm On Dec 10, 2013 |
Like seriously..seun,racism is different ,this is a religious belief.. He is practicin his religiön..he is entitled to the right to say i dnt support obamahealth care..this is also applicable to the acceptance of gays,by baking the cake 4 them ,he is encouraging them. 1 Like |
Re: Baker Faces Jail For Refusing To Bake Cake For Gay Couple by meforyou1(m): 10:36pm On Dec 10, 2013 |
Why are we having so many gay stories on the fp of nairaland these days? It's against our culture. Let the western world embrace polygamy, which is our culture in africa, before preaching gay rights to us. 1 Like |
Re: Baker Faces Jail For Refusing To Bake Cake For Gay Couple by TV01(m): 10:37pm On Dec 10, 2013 |
Seun: There was a time when living as a black American was very inconvenient because most places of business would refuse to serve black people. Can you imagine going to a restaurant with your white friends only to be told that they "don't serve your type here?" Or a petrol station? Or to not be allowed to attend a good school even though your academics are strong? That's what America was like before the laws that convicted this man were created. It does a lot of damage to members of minority groups if people are allowed to refuse to do business with "their type". A nice enough sound bite, but entirely wrong - scientifically and factually. Sodomy is a practice, not a genetically predetermined or immutable characteristic. Ethnicity and race are. Sodomites are not physically or functionally any different from "normal" people. they self- identify and indulge in sodomy as a choice. Secondly, he did not refuse them service because they are "gay", he refused to bake a cake celebrating the lie that is same-sex marriage, as untrue, immoral, degrading and against his religious beliefs. He would have to violate his own conscience to satisfy their falsely contrived inalienable right. A pornographer asks to buy bread, no problem. A pornographer asks to purchase pastry no problem. A pornographer asks you to bake a cake detailing a lewd act. If it violates your faith, simply refuse. That's what happened here. Who would force a halal butcher to stock pork? Thirdly please don't compare sodomitic activism to black civil rights. They are nothing alike and an insult to those that fought for them and those that continue to be denied them. TV 4 Likes |
Re: Baker Faces Jail For Refusing To Bake Cake For Gay Couple by Ezegozie(m): 10:39pm On Dec 10, 2013 |
Tonniey: na the owner of Nairaland you dey talk to like dis o oo. Abi you want your whole ancestors banned from Nairaland? lOL |
Re: Baker Faces Jail For Refusing To Bake Cake For Gay Couple by beryl04(m): 11:08pm On Dec 10, 2013 |
Egba girl:Read that post and d subsequent ones I wrote and u'll find the inference of my being gay there! I was discriminated against cos am nigerian and cos am not effeminate! That's no basis for discrimination at all cos just as straight people allow gays into their clubs ,the gay clubs shd also allow straight into their clubs and infact,that the way it is most of the time.there discrimination was mostly borne out of d fact that they don't want nigerians especially straight ones into their club for obvious reasons and besides after that nite I sort of became a VIP in d club whenever am in SA. |
Re: Baker Faces Jail For Refusing To Bake Cake For Gay Couple by beryl04(m): 11:17pm On Dec 10, 2013 |
flexshop: Pray tell Mr,why was d blacks discriminated against if not cos of religion? Just give me 1 good reason why racism was and is still justfied in some places if not cos the Holy book talked about some inferior race. |
Re: Baker Faces Jail For Refusing To Bake Cake For Gay Couple by GagaBoy: 11:23pm On Dec 10, 2013 |
$Πøwpr¡Π¢€: I love how wen it comes to gays, its the world is turning to sodom and gomorrah. the world is going to shiit anyways and its not because of gays. u find a 13 year old girl already having sex. pornography everywhere, our celebs going nude and our icons in sex scandals, corruption everywhere. Even nairaland sexuality section paints a clear picture of the world. Am not criticising anyone but stop being hipocritcal, we are all sinners here. what makes ur sin less evil than another. Am atheist by the way. |
Re: Baker Faces Jail For Refusing To Bake Cake For Gay Couple by beryl04(m): 11:27pm On Dec 10, 2013 |
wman: Don't mind him, that's why I refused to answer him cos they only choose to hear,see and believe what they want to! Nairalanders and nigerians. smh at una! |
Re: Baker Faces Jail For Refusing To Bake Cake For Gay Couple by GSKing: 11:28pm On Dec 10, 2013 |
dinachi: 10 Reasons Why Homosexual “Marriage” is Harmful and Must be OpposedIrritating ignorance! As for your 10th point, stick it up your religiously homophobic azss, you brainwashed backward minded bigot! 1 Like |
Re: Baker Faces Jail For Refusing To Bake Cake For Gay Couple by Damola12: 11:29pm On Dec 10, 2013 |
Dear gay people..,we dont care what u do in the closet of your rooms.we dont care if u choose to marry each other but where we draw the line is at being forced to like u,do business with u,or generally relate with u..a human being reserves the right to chooose to be gay and if we respect that i think its not too much to ask that u respect our right to not like u or do business with u for reasons of our choosing..what stops a gay person from getting a baker that doesnt have a problem with gay people...the theme of the "gay struggle"is basically a right to CHOOSE so why are people against a bakers choice. No disrespect to bakers but its not related to life its not like a doctor or pharmacist or nurse refusing medical services to them..those have a code of ethics binding them to render services to everybody which is ok. At this rate a time will come when someone will tell u seun that u are discriminating against his right to advertize on your site because he cant afford your fee..it can be called discrimination against the poor or whatever colourful name they choose to give it..i can Really go on and on but i think i hav made my point...it boils down to freedom to make choices and we dont owe gay people any concessions. Yours in the struggle..Damola12 3 Likes |
Re: Baker Faces Jail For Refusing To Bake Cake For Gay Couple by GSKing: 12:01am On Dec 11, 2013 |
^Nonsense! It's still not by force to comment! Stop remixing what billions have said already! |
Re: Baker Faces Jail For Refusing To Bake Cake For Gay Couple by dinachi(m): 12:30am On Dec 11, 2013 |
GSKing:As usual, you cant counter the points because your anus is bleeding! GSKing: ^Nonsense! It's still not by force to comment! Stop remixing what billions have said already!Must you comment? You make no sense at all! 1 Like |
Re: Baker Faces Jail For Refusing To Bake Cake For Gay Couple by GSKing: 12:37am On Dec 11, 2013 |
dinachi:Go and sleep Aboki, I won't feed your ignorance and promote bigotry here..! |
Re: Baker Faces Jail For Refusing To Bake Cake For Gay Couple by dahfweshdude69: 12:39am On Dec 11, 2013 |
pure madness...he won't bake a cake for them , So?..he owns his business and has every single right to decline a customers offer.. they are violating his right... how will a sane human wake up one morning and feel he/she is attracted to the same sex?, an act we can't see among animals.. every single homo a.s.s.h.o.l.e needs therapy... a whole year for deliverance... madness at the highest level... no single f.a.g should cross my path and yarn dust for my side... Nah die b dat |
Re: Baker Faces Jail For Refusing To Bake Cake For Gay Couple by GSKing: 12:51am On Dec 11, 2013 |
dahfweshdude69: pure madness...he won't bake a cake for them , So?..he owns his business and has every single right to decline a customers offer.. they are violating his right... how will a sane human wake up one morning and feel he/she is attracted to the same sex?, an act we can't see among animals.. every single homo a.s.s.h.o.l.e needs therapy... a whole year for deliverance... madness at the highest level... no single f.a.g should cross my path and yarn dust for my side... Nah die b datYou have no right to deny your clients the services they are paying for which you weren't restricted from starting up... this is a crime of Hate..! Your law in Nigeria might not recognize customers rights but their laws protect every client/customer!!! As for all your sentences that ended with a question mark, Google is your friend! |
Re: Baker Faces Jail For Refusing To Bake Cake For Gay Couple by dinachi(m): 12:59am On Dec 11, 2013 |
GSKing:Answer the salient points raised or go and treat your bleeding anus, simple! It is ignorance of the highest order to say that people do not choose who they work for. It is like you want to resign from a company citing your religious beliefs and they refuse your resignation and punish you for CHOOSING to terminate your services. Any good lawyer worth his salt will so make the baker look good that they will elect him for mayor! As for your embarrassing naivety on what a marriage is.......... |
Re: Baker Faces Jail For Refusing To Bake Cake For Gay Couple by dahfweshdude69: 1:05am On Dec 11, 2013 |
GSKing:u must b joking ...as long as he owns his business, he has every right to decline and accept any offer... Who he accepts or rejects is none of our business... and if he dislikes f.a.g.g.o.t.s , he has the right to dislike them as long as he doesn't violate their rights..in this case he simply refused an offer from them... When I say homo fools are mad.. I really mean it...do they think everyone likes them? hell no... no difference between them and animals.. animals don't do creepy stuffs like that...comparing them with animals is bad... animals are even better. :-| |
Re: Baker Faces Jail For Refusing To Bake Cake For Gay Couple by GSKing: 1:21am On Dec 11, 2013 |
dinachi:A good lawyer You say? In what country? definitely not the liberal ones..! About marriage, don't fool yourself, this is 2013 not 1020 BC... I don't have strength for fucktards this night... my pillow needs to feel my head..! btw... what made you think I have a bleeding anus? My azzs hole is intact you bloody religious mofo |
Re: Baker Faces Jail For Refusing To Bake Cake For Gay Couple by GSKing: 1:23am On Dec 11, 2013 |
dahfweshdude69: u must b joking ...as long as he owns his business, he has every right to decline and accept any offer... Who he accepts or rejects is none of our business... and if he dislikes f.a.g.g.o.t.s , he has the right to dislike them as long as he doesn't violate their rights..in this case he simply refused an offer from them... When I say homo fools are mad.. I really mean it...do they think everyone likes them? hell no... no difference between them and animals.. animals don't do creepy stuffs like that...comparing them with animals is bad... animals are even better. :-| Refer to my antepenultimate post on this thread! Mi o raye shi...t mehn... |
Re: Baker Faces Jail For Refusing To Bake Cake For Gay Couple by Anvaller: 1:39am On Dec 11, 2013 |
wman: Well in that case, ur attitude shows the problem i have with gay ppl and their sympathizers they are the most brutal but still claim to be victims all the time. Without verbally abusing u, u called me and more than 15 ppl that liked my post "mofos" really? This guy failed to state that he was gay. from his comment that i quoted, he only said the following: "I went to a club I was not allowed in cos i wasnt looking gay enough and i was Nigerian." U must not be gay to enter some gay clubs, some straight ppl go to gay clubs too as long as they are not disgusted with what they see there. ok my question to u... if the gay dude went to a gay clup in S.A and the fellow gay ppl like him bounced him so what is our own problem about that? Why is he telling us here about it? He should have looked for a gay forum to discuss that. If even gays are discriminating against themselves, why do they care so much about straight ppl? |
Re: Baker Faces Jail For Refusing To Bake Cake For Gay Couple by MRSANITY(m): 1:49am On Dec 11, 2013 |
manny4life:Always on gay themed posts, to drop a line or two in support of homosexuality. |
Re: Baker Faces Jail For Refusing To Bake Cake For Gay Couple by GeneralJ(m): 2:44am On Dec 11, 2013 |
Bleep the world |
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