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Re: Nigeria Airbrushed Out Of Mandela’s Life Story by Nobody: 1:45pm On Dec 12, 2013 |
Horus: Asides quelling apartheid (which Nigeria never experienced) and trying to reconcile whites and blacks, what specific leadership qualities in Mandela should Nigerian leaders imitate? Please don't say anything about transparency and anti-corruption because many other leaders in the world are just as imitable in those areas. We just like to do follow follow with everybody. |
Re: Nigeria Airbrushed Out Of Mandela’s Life Story by seangy4konji: 1:46pm On Dec 12, 2013 |
it nor concern me |
Re: Nigeria Airbrushed Out Of Mandela’s Life Story by ImHotepX: 1:53pm On Dec 12, 2013 |
In as much as this isn't the right time to start dissecting Nelson Mandela due to all the sacrifices he made. Yes, he did sacrifice a lot and I doubt there would ever be any black/African person like Nelson Mandela again. The consciousness is different now and we as black people are too much in-love with the white-media created world and modernity that we don't rate anyone except the white-massa shoves him/her down our throats. There are tons of black political prisoners still in prison for fighting for black people - how many of us remember or celebrate them? So we can't fault white people for telling the story of the image they created the way they want it to be told. However, we need to understand that there were two Nelson Mandela. The first one was the freedom fighter - the one we've all forgotten. And the second one was the most celebrated and most loved one created by white people. I believe a lot of African academics and even the ANC share this sentiment based on what I've read from different online outlets across the continent. Hence why there was a campaign for him to be buried as the former - the freedom fighter. But that campaign was black-balled into abyss. I guess that's why Thabo Mbeki also wasn't allowed to speak at his funeral. They created the image and you can't stop them from burying him the way they want to bury him. The same way King James wrote the Bible the way he wanted it to be written - and that has been the standard for holy scriptures since then. You have to follow the rules of the owners of the world. For the real Mandela to be celebrated, then not only Nigeria would have to me mentioned. Zimbabwe, Gaddafi and Libya, and Fidel Castro and Cuba would also have to be cited. Nigeria contributed a lot. So did Mugabe and Zimbabwe. Same for Gaddafi and Libya. And Fidel Castro's Cuba tied the noose around the neck of apartheid South Africa with the Angolan war, hence why all the countries around South Africa got their independence and that isolated apartheid South Africa. It's very complex and you don't expect those who created the post-apartheid Nelson Mandela - the same people who supported apartheid South Africa to tell you how they were complicit in the same devilish and dehumanising system of government - do you? So you need to let it go. Finally, in as much as I don't like Nigeria that much for being a failure, for failing black people after so much promise in the 60's and for keeping my people in a permanent state of perpetual retrogression - I'd say Nigeria has done a lot of Africa and the black folks. It's just a shame that Nigeria itself is a failure and it has failed its people. It's not just South Africa. I believe almost all Africa countries have at one time or the other benefited from Nigeria. Heck, Nigeria did pay the salaries of teachers and government workers in Jamaica and some other countries in the Caribbean in the 70's, during the oil boom. That's Nigeria for you. However, that doesn't negate the failure that the country is. I just hope they teach you lot your history in Nigeria! Hotep! 4 Likes |
Re: Nigeria Airbrushed Out Of Mandela’s Life Story by Secularist: 1:54pm On Dec 12, 2013 |
BluIvy: You better apologize to the Nigerian people, coming here on a NIgerian forum calling NIgerians shallow. Stop the generation bluivy, pikin wey dem born yesterday , its not cool anymore. |
Re: Nigeria Airbrushed Out Of Mandela’s Life Story by Elose11(m): 2:27pm On Dec 12, 2013 |
vicoloni: I had refrained from joining any school of thought on Nigeria's political arena for many reasons but after reading this piece I am forced to express my utter disappointment and disgust in the way Mr. President is running the affairs of this great nation called Nigeria.With people like you, thinking with you a-nus instead of brain, one is not surprised if we are treated with disdain by other countries. Who is Obasanjo that his letter will cause the president to resign? Is Obj Nigeria? Disrespect of Nigeria by SA did not start from this govt. It began from Abacha. It was even during this govt that SA was forced to its kneels when Nigerians were deported last year over yellow fever vaccination. If SA decided to bit the finger that fed them, we leave them to their conscience. 1 Like |
Re: Nigeria Airbrushed Out Of Mandela’s Life Story by ManTiger(m): 2:32pm On Dec 12, 2013 |
Built2last: why are you surprised? its not a new thing under heaven for you to help people and they turn arround and pay you with evil. Not Just civil servants contributed. they came to my primary school back then under Shagari that we should contribute. I remember giving the 50 kobo i had on me that day. Even when i never knew what the struggle was all about.@Bolded, i donated 10k i'm sure you'll remember the toney red 10k. Sure, SA has gone past many african countries and will do anything not to let anybody or national ruin their name. Its a pity they rival with us at all spot! |
Re: Nigeria Airbrushed Out Of Mandela’s Life Story by corinna: 2:39pm On Dec 12, 2013 |
That is life for you. What happened to Nigeria is what happens to everyday people. You help somebody and immediately he/she gets out of the ditch you become his or her enemy. Even when narrating their success history; you never get mentioned. Only those who recognised when they already become somebody when they are nothing or people who oppresed them with their wealth get praised. Lesson i have learnt is help others but upgrade yourself otherwise those you helped will be too ashamed to identify with you if you made nothing of yourself. 2 Likes |
Re: Nigeria Airbrushed Out Of Mandela’s Life Story by Horus(m): 2:41pm On Dec 12, 2013 |
nnenna.1: So you dont see any qualities in Nelson Mandela? |
Re: Nigeria Airbrushed Out Of Mandela’s Life Story by Sike(m): 3:12pm On Dec 12, 2013 |
Whatever! We love what we love. |
Re: Nigeria Airbrushed Out Of Mandela’s Life Story by satowind(m): 3:16pm On Dec 12, 2013 |
Sowhizy: U can't even show ur face on ur profile. Is a shame a guy is prettier than u. Aba girl |
Re: Nigeria Airbrushed Out Of Mandela’s Life Story by texazzpete(m): 3:28pm On Dec 12, 2013 |
ebucha: We African are the ones debasing ourselves. A french man can never insult a fellow french man for not speaking fluent spanish, but here, we so much glorify the queen of England that fluent English is misconstrued for intelligence. If Germans, the fastest growing economy in europe and china, the worlds fastest growing economy had dissipated much time on Flawless english, I doubt if they will be where they are today. I know my fellow country men will crucify me here for this statement, but as you type on your device, remember that 90% of the components of your device are mathematical derivatives/programmes. Please stop seeking for an excuse for your ineptitude. Your 'french man' analogy was extremely dumb. English is our official language, spanish is NOT an official language in France. As befitting its status as an official language, English is taught to everyone who is supposedly formally educated from infancy to University level. Inability to speak or write decent English after more than 15 years of education SHOULD be derided and the intelligence of the offending party must be questioned. I wish this would be the last time someone makes this kind of statement, but i've been on NL since 2007 and I know every once in a while, someone pops up to make this same silly comment. |
Re: Nigeria Airbrushed Out Of Mandela’s Life Story by ImHotepX: 3:39pm On Dec 12, 2013 |
Let me just conclude with this post. In the last few days, I've done a proper analysis of the great icon, Nelson Mandela, and I believe I kind of rate him more than I used to. I believe if I were in his shoes - I would have done the same thing. If I had gone to prison for 27 years, only to come out to see a continent that was in a worse state under indigeneous rule than it was under colonialism. Civil wars everwhere. Military tyrants enslaving their own people. Extreme corruption, hunger, poverty and underdevelopment as the face of post-colonial Africa. Africa's only hope, Nigeria, in a state of anarchy. And a South Africa under apartheid rule as the only shinning light of the continent, with a lot to gain from a compromise - even if it meant being slaves under minority rule. I would have compromised and titled towards being a slave in "heaven" than being free in "hell." Let's be honest - the black race is accursed! I guess that was why he had to settle for less and embrace the status quo, with the hope that future generations in South Africa would turn it around when they become educated enough to understand the necessary steps in taking power. I doubt Nelson Mandela would be angry with the omission of Nigeria from his story because if there was any country he hated, that country has to be Nigeria. I believe that stems from seeing a country with so much potentials in ruin is enough for anyone to hate such a country. Especially when at one point in history, the hope and destiny of a whole race was tied to that country. He never hid his hatred for Nigeria. And that was a man in which hatred/hate was foreign to - so you lot need to understand why you need to smack yourselves rather than pointing fingers everywhere. Also, despite how Mugabe was painted black everywhere - Mandela and South Africa indirectly supported everything he did. Mugabe's like a god in South Africa. Mandela was also an upright/upstanding man - and he's the type that would never deny his "friends" regardless of what anyone says. A very loyal icon. Nelson Mandela described Fidel Castro as, “In all my years in prison, Cuba was an inspiration and Fidel Castro a tower of strength.” Go read about the battle of Cuito Cuanavale in Angola 1988 and how it was the turning point for apartheid South Africa. That was Cuba's contribution. Nelson Mandela once described Muammar Gaddafi as "Brother Leader" and said this to those who had something negative to say about his bromance with Muammar Gaddafi: "Those who feel irritated by our friendship with President Gaddafi can go jump in the pool." Then went further in 1999 by saying this: "No-one can deny that the friendship and trust between South Africa and Libya played a significant part in arriving at this solution. It vindicates our view that talking to one another and searching for peaceful solutions remain the surest way to resolve differences and advance peace and progress in the world. It was pure expediency to call on democratic South Africa to turn its back on Libya and Gaddafi, who had assisted us in obtaining democracy." Heck, one of his grand sons was named Gaddafi after the late Libyan leader. That was Nelson Mandela for you. Very loyal to his friends. So before we critique the man's legacy - we need to understand the reasons and circumstances in which he made whatever decision(s) he made. And why he wouldn't want his legacy to be associated with Nigeria. Finally, no matter what you lot say on here - nothing can negate his status as the most celebrated and accomplished black hero ever! Only Michael Jackson was close. Maybe, Obama and Muhammed Ali would also be close when it's all said and done. The most important thing is that the man never complained about the celebrity status those who jailed him gave him. He loved and embraced it. I went to his statue at the Parliament Square two days ago to pay my last respect to him. And loads of people were also there despite the cold weather and the frost. 3 Likes |
Re: Nigeria Airbrushed Out Of Mandela’s Life Story by Gudiza(m): 4:10pm On Dec 12, 2013 |
Promhize: .....When you are doing good, you do it because you know its the right thing not because of the praise you would receive. safarigirl: .....When you help someone out, you need not continually remind them of that help, because they won't have any reason to appreciate that help anymore. We've done our part, they may not thank us because we're not having the best of times currently, but let posterity judge us all, whether they recognise us or not won't affect our economy or end the rot in our education system. |
Re: Nigeria Airbrushed Out Of Mandela’s Life Story by Gudiza(m): 4:32pm On Dec 12, 2013 |
We pushed “our” Mandela back into the arms of his jailers even after he had been set free from a physical prison because he realised that African leaders may be parading themselves around in luxury cars and private jets but they were still ideologically imprisoned. |
Re: Nigeria Airbrushed Out Of Mandela’s Life Story by imauri: 4:43pm On Dec 12, 2013 |
all nigerians would say is it is high time you do this and that... all they do is speak big grammar online but docile as a drug fuelled addict... yes people run away from nigerians because they are ashamed... A president that has promoted corruption to the fullest, cannot be seen on center stage representing What? saying What?.. (tisk tisk too shameful)... A country that simply has no more morals where money rules over everything including humanity! nigeria is imploding, nigeria will implode.... when the country dies, Jonatan and abati and all their clowns will flee the country and leave those asking for his re-election to shed their blood.... Oil and greed is our curse.. never tot id ever say this but General sanni Abacha was a million times better than Jonatan.... the stats dont lie.... OP nice one there....check how much oil was, check currency check it all..... nigeria was not indebted to the imf...Our colonial masters(IMF) never left... they made a silent come back capitalising on our curse.. greed ... someone said.. mandelas incarceration was a time capsule shielding him from the corruption that engulfed the whole of africa.... i agree... |
Re: Nigeria Airbrushed Out Of Mandela’s Life Story by Nobody: 4:48pm On Dec 12, 2013 |
BluIvy: Checked your posts, what I saw was quite sad, that you are a lady makes it worse. Anyway, are you disputing the fact that we helped, supported Mandela, ANC and South-Africa?? |
Re: Nigeria Airbrushed Out Of Mandela’s Life Story by Nobody: 5:13pm On Dec 12, 2013 |
Promhize: So did we and many other countries but you do not see us throwing this at their faces at everyturn, using it as some kind of insult, blackmail or an opportunity to make them feel indebted to us. We have never demanded a payback or recognition from SA becouse we did what we did, they never begged us to do it. If Botswana, Nigeria or any other country did not help someone else would have. This my bone of contention with how most Nigerians think. Nothing personal, really. |
Re: Nigeria Airbrushed Out Of Mandela’s Life Story by Nobody: 5:25pm On Dec 12, 2013 |
BluIvy: Yeah, my opinion too. If you saw my previous post on the thread, I said something similar. Good to know you have nothing against Nigeria , we africans, we are brothers & sisters. 1 Like |
Re: Nigeria Airbrushed Out Of Mandela’s Life Story by john6006: 6:00pm On Dec 12, 2013 |
Mandela Never forget africa but,africans forget africa.Ignorant to change. |
Re: Nigeria Airbrushed Out Of Mandela’s Life Story by osystein(m): 6:39pm On Dec 12, 2013 |
Nigerians hate themselves more than foreigners do, most would probably airbrush nigerians from other tribes from their own story and that of their people. 1 Like |
Re: Nigeria Airbrushed Out Of Mandela’s Life Story by Chartey(m): 7:53pm On Dec 12, 2013 |
Mandela sold out abeg. Black SA didn't gain economic freedom. As much as I dislike Mugabe's tactics, I can't just fault his core vision. In my opinion, Nkrumah was a far more influential African great as he fought for AFRICA's freedom and not just for Ghana. Only that he would have been another Mugabe had that coup not thrown him out. |
Re: Nigeria Airbrushed Out Of Mandela’s Life Story by delerx(m): 8:38pm On Dec 12, 2013 |
dedons: I returned and saw under the sun that the race is not to the swift,nor the battle to the strong,neither yet bread to the wise,nor yet riches to men of understanding,nor yet favour to men of skill;but time and chance happens to them all. |
Re: Nigeria Airbrushed Out Of Mandela’s Life Story by iamdsam: 9:08pm On Dec 12, 2013 |
Bank Manager: That's why we ought to concentrate more on "National Policy" than "Foreign Policy"..There were many challenges in Nigeria from the 70s upward.Even though we had a buoyant economy,instead of developing our country FIRST,we started helping others.You've said it all. You're so right. 1 Like |
Re: Nigeria Airbrushed Out Of Mandela’s Life Story by GentleFrank(m): 9:15pm On Dec 12, 2013 |
... passing ooo !!! |
Re: Nigeria Airbrushed Out Of Mandela’s Life Story by eaglechild: 11:22pm On Dec 12, 2013 |
satowind: @op is regrettable what nigeria as a country have to pass through because of the fact that nigerians are greedy. Makes me wana cry but I won't cause today is my birthday....happy birthday to me. Judging from your pic, you are old enough to realize that this is nairaland not facebook. Pls spare us the agony of having to see your pictures. Apparently you get a hard on by looking at your pictures on the internet so you have decided to inundate all topics whether related or not with them. If you want to post your pics pls open a thread, and waank away. |
Re: Nigeria Airbrushed Out Of Mandela’s Life Story by MitchDLeo(m): 12:28am On Dec 13, 2013 |
This is the problem Nigeria is facing. All we do is criticize each other. eaglechild: |
Re: Nigeria Airbrushed Out Of Mandela’s Life Story by DerideGull(m): 1:47am On Dec 13, 2013 |
Ojowanle: It’s amusing to see the same people who jailed Mandela several years ago falling over themselves to eulogise him at his death. This is not only because he showed in his life time that he is made of better material than all of them put together but also because we Africans allowed them to take centre stage. You could not be more correct. In addition, Africans are sentimental goats and can never match the deftness of Europeans especially on the propaganda front. Europeans made sure Mandela parted ways with Winnie and arranged a waste pipe for him as a wife. |
Re: Nigeria Airbrushed Out Of Mandela’s Life Story by ImHotepX: 2:01am On Dec 13, 2013 |
DerideGull: I agree. Winnie was too much of a black woman for the post-apartheid Mandela to handle. You wouldn't want them to destroy their investment - would you? They would have given him an ivory queen but that would have destroyed the whole agenda, hence why they gave him a coconut. Most black women these days are coconuts and most of them are barely intelligent and superficial. So no hard feelings there. It was just a case of giving Mandela the modern-day chicken-headed black woman. |
Re: Nigeria Airbrushed Out Of Mandela’s Life Story by 1009ja: 2:36am On Dec 13, 2013 |
Other than crying, what else can I do (for my country)? Is it okay for me to pray and ask God to let all past and present Nigerian leaders to reap the fruits of their labours on all of us? Who amongst them will be free from that ultimate punishment? Are our leaders not condemning themselves to the same fate they have slushed on us; they have see us suffer every day. Can I pray for a 'miracle'. A 'miracle' for our looters to have a collective change of heart. Would that be possible? When would we collectively say.....ENOUGH. |
Re: Nigeria Airbrushed Out Of Mandela’s Life Story by iamdsam: 6:30am On Dec 13, 2013 |
You posted the whole truth. A revolution is the only solution to Nigeria's problem because our corrupt leaders ain't ready to change. The revolution would take many of them out. |
Re: Nigeria Airbrushed Out Of Mandela’s Life Story by Nobody: 6:38am On Dec 13, 2013 |
ImHotep-X: Great post Uhuru 24-7 |
Re: Nigeria Airbrushed Out Of Mandela’s Life Story by eaglechild: 7:16am On Dec 13, 2013 |
Mitch D Leo: This is the problem Nigeria is facing. All we do is criticize each other.Nope The problem with Nigeria is that we keep shut and watch things go bad. |
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