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Angels Have No Wings, Says Catholic ‘angelologist’ by gbolakpine(m): 4:55pm On Dec 20, 2013
Different people with different thoughts... For all of you who thinks Angels fly with wings as aid, a catholic Angelologist has come out to boldly say that there is nothing like wings at the back of angels. Here is what he had to say...

Angels exist but do not have wings and are more like shards of light, the heavenly beings are now back in vogue thanks to New Age religions. “I think there is a re-discovery of angels in Christianity,” Father Renzo Lavatori told AFP on the sidelines of a conference on angels in a lavishly-frescoed Renaissance palace in Rome.

“You do not see angels so much as feel their presence,” said Lavatori, adding: “They are a bit like sunlight that refracts on you through a crystal vase.” The senior clergyman was taking part in a debate this week on angelic art by the Fondazione Archivio Storico, an Italian art foundation, and was held in the Vatican-owned Palazzo della Cancelleria.

Professor Valerio Massimo Manfredi, an art historian taking part in the conference, said the first mention of the word “angelos” came from the Mycenaean civilization in Greece more than 3,000 years ago. The word means “messenger” in ancient Greek. Monsignor Giovanni Tonucci, head of the Loreto Marian sanctuary, said that angels were “pure souls” whose lack of a defined form had allowed artists through the ages to let their creative imagination run wild.

“Following the cultural history of angels is following the history of humanity, or at least of our civilization,” the organisers said. “Angels have helped drive religious and philosophical thought and have given birth to sublime forms of poetic and artistic expression,” they said. Lavatori said the popularised image of angels is a necessary result of their being “back in fashion” but is dismissive of all the angel art around Christmas. “There is space for that, but you have to understand that these are not real representations.

Angels do not have wings or look like cherubs,” he said. The widely-published Catholic clergyman is also a “demonologist” and says angels are more needed than ever because increasing secularisation and materialism in society have left an “open door” for the devil. “There is a lot more interference from diabolical forces. That is why you see queues of people outside the exorcists’ offices in churches,” he said. “Pope Francis talks more about the devil than about angels and I think rightly so. But it’s still early, he will get round to the angels too.”

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Re: Angels Have No Wings, Says Catholic ‘angelologist’ by Nobody: 5:19pm On Dec 20, 2013
I would like to know how he ascertained such information, are they based on empirical knowledge.
Lastly how do they fly? Abi dem dey use jetpack?
Re: Angels Have No Wings, Says Catholic ‘angelologist’ by Acidosis(m): 7:28pm On Dec 20, 2013
Big.game:
I would like to know how he ascertained such information, are they based on empirical knowledge.
Lastly how do they fly? Abi dem dey use jetpack?

Spirit beings don't fly.. They appear.

Angels aren't birds.

On the day of rapture, in a matter of milli seconds, the elects would be transformed and then UP in the sky to meet the Lord.

No one is flying like birds.

Its a simple explanation that demands no fossil record. Some verses in the bible used the phrase - "...and the angel of the Lord appeared unto.."

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Re: Angels Have No Wings, Says Catholic ‘angelologist’ by ManhunterTM(m): 9:12pm On Dec 20, 2013
So bros, I've been meaning to ask this question for a long time now.
In the bible, some angels left their perfect heaven after checking out the backsides of a few women; Please, bros, what caused such a behaviour, why did spiritual beings long so much for the material?

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Re: Angels Have No Wings, Says Catholic ‘angelologist’ by lanrexlan(m): 6:31am On Dec 21, 2013
This is what we called 'The strange biblical Angels'.In another place,you will see angels eating.
Re: Angels Have No Wings, Says Catholic ‘angelologist’ by Emusan(m): 8:56am On Dec 21, 2013
Manhunter™:
So bros, I've been meaning to ask this question for a long time now.
In the bible, some angels left their perfect heaven after checking out the backsides of a few women; Please, bros, what caused such a behaviour, why did spiritual beings long so much for the material?

Where did you see this in the Bible?
Re: Angels Have No Wings, Says Catholic ‘angelologist’ by ManhunterTM(m): 9:21am On Dec 21, 2013
Emusan:

Where did you see this in the Bible?


Genesis 6 vs 2 :
the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
Re: Angels Have No Wings, Says Catholic ‘angelologist’ by Emusan(m): 2:10pm On Dec 21, 2013
Manhunter™:


Genesis 6 vs 2 :
the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

This verse is talking about how man multiplied in time of Noah before the flood. Not Angel married human.


Shalom!
Re: Angels Have No Wings, Says Catholic ‘angelologist’ by CriminalIbos: 3:30pm On Dec 21, 2013
....picture of angel without wings or this is fake new!!!
Re: Angels Have No Wings, Says Catholic ‘angelologist’ by Acidosis(m): 5:46pm On Dec 21, 2013
Emusan:

This verse is talking about how man multiplied in time of Noah before the flood. Not Angel married human.


Shalom!

Thanks, Sir...
Re: Angels Have No Wings, Says Catholic ‘angelologist’ by mumumugu(m): 6:46pm On Dec 21, 2013
Angels have feathers
Re: Angels Have No Wings, Says Catholic ‘angelologist’ by samsard(m): 12:50am On Dec 22, 2013
Emusan:

This verse is talking about how man multiplied in time of Noah before the flood. Not Angel married human.


Shalom!
here you are so 'religious' yet you misinterpret a simple bible verse. SMH for you.
Since when did the old testament start referring to men as "the sons of god"? Man, go and read job Chapter 1. The sons of god are spirit-beings not humans
Re: Angels Have No Wings, Says Catholic ‘angelologist’ by samsard(m): 12:52am On Dec 22, 2013
Acidosis:

Thanks, Sir...
Bro, ignore him. The sons of god as used there refers to spirit-beings not "multiplying humans"
Re: Angels Have No Wings, Says Catholic ‘angelologist’ by Brimmie(m): 12:53am On Dec 22, 2013
And Jesus has no moustache!?
Re: Angels Have No Wings, Says Catholic ‘angelologist’ by ManhunterTM(m): 7:34am On Dec 22, 2013
Emusan:

This verse is talking about how man multiplied in time of Noah before the flood. Not Angel married human.


Shalom!
Dishonest as usual. When did "sons of God" (usually used to refer to God's angels ) become humans?
Re: Angels Have No Wings, Says Catholic ‘angelologist’ by Syncan(m): 9:41am On Dec 22, 2013
Manhunter™:
Dishonest as usual. When did "sons of God" (usually used to refer to God's angels ) become humans?

I do not think he is dishonest.

The new testament enlightened us on the fact that Adam was known as the "son of God" LK 3:38. In Genesis chapter 5 we see a genealogy account starting from Adam via Seth his son.

Take special note of Gen 4:26 thus: And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the LORD

Compare with "But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:" John 1:12
and
"For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God".Rom 8:14

We see that it is God who confers the Sonship on any man. The means of doing this depends on him, could be as in the case of Adam who he created in his Image, or in the case of study where they began to call upon His name again, or in the case of those who received Christ, or as Rom 8 :14 says "as many as are led by the spirit of God".

This is in contrast to those who "left the presence of the lord" as seen in Cain (Gen 4:16), or those who "are carnally minded" Rom 8. These for the purpose of distinction are termed "of men" or "of flesh".

It simply means we can say that the children of Seth lineage, at that point in Gen 6:1-4, saw the children of the lineage of Cain and married them.

Lk 20:34-36 seem to suggest that angels are out of the question here.

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Re: Angels Have No Wings, Says Catholic ‘angelologist’ by Krasid(m): 10:07am On Dec 22, 2013
Big.game:
I would like to know how he ascertained such information, are they based on empirical knowledge.
Lastly how do they fly? Abi dem dey use jetpack?
Fly ke, Where are they flying to?

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