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| Jehovah's Witnesses: A Stable Christian Organization by Maximus85(m): 10:55am On Dec 24, 2013 |
This is why I Love being a Jehovah's Witness. Though we made some wrong calculations in the past, we publicly admitted it cos we believe that the light of the truth is shining ever brighter. We calculated that the end might come in 1975, but looking at what Mat 24:14 says...the end won't come until the goodnews of God's kingdom is preached in all inhabited earth. That's why we concentrate more on preaching and preaching and preaching. We are doing it like Jesus, going from house-to-house. All our doctrine is based in the Bible, We use God's name Jehovah. That name appeared nearly 7000times in the hebrew scriptures (manuscript) because of this, they said we made our own Bible. How many times did that name Jehovah appear in your Bible. Simple english language. What is "I am the Lord God" two titles, just like saying "I am Mr Doctor" in our own translation its "I am Jehovah your God" see the difference? Our Doctrine has never changed since the beginning. We don't celebrate Birthdays, No Christmas, No Blood, No Two Wives, We never believed in Trinity, We never believed that everyone goes to heaven. We don't believe in Hell We don't do politics. We are not pursuing wealth. (we don't teach economic empowerment inside God's house) I saw a pastor on tv with the topic "How to be economically empowered" inside church? I wept. You can go on and on, we've never changed any of our believes and it will never change. 1 Like |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: A Stable Christian Organization by benny4wax(m): 10:56am On Dec 24, 2013 |
nice post op but i would love to counter your said doctrines one after the other..... you made mention that your Doctrines has never changed since the beginning, That maybe true...... you don't celebrate Birthdays? (YOUR CUP OF TEA NOT MINE) you dont celebrate Christmas? (THEN I GUESS YOU ALSO DONT BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST AND HIS MISSION) No Blood, (THEN I SUPPOSE WATERS FLOW THROUGH YOUR VEINS) No Two Wives (THAT BELIEVE IS GENERAL EVEN AMONG PAGANS) You never believed in Trinity, (WHO CARES? BUT WE DO) you never believed that everyone goes to heaven. (TO AVOID BAN, I COMMENT MY RESERVE) you don't believe in Hell (DENIAL IS THE GREATEST DEFENCE MECHANISM OF MAN) you don't do politics. (BLA BLA BLA, TALK TO THE HANDS) are not pursuing wealth. (THEN I ASSUME YOU ALL LIVE IN ABJECT POVERTY  )I ONLY CONCUR WITH YOUR WRITEUP BELOW ...... (we don't teach economic empowerment inside God's house) 'I saw a pastor on tv with the topic "How to be economically empowered" inside church? I wept' A POST WORTHY OF FRONT PAGE...... #TeamRomanCatholicTillIDie# GOD BLESS THE POPE THE PILLAR OF THE CHURCH.............................. |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: A Stable Christian Organization by Nobody: 11:02am On Dec 24, 2013 |
I'm not a member and I don't agree substantially with your doctrines but I think you have outstanding people among your members. People who are decent and unattracted to the trappings and voracious appetite of the modern generation towards wealth and power. 1 Like |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: A Stable Christian Organization by Maximus85(m): 1:25pm On Dec 24, 2013 |
kITA TITA: I'm not a member and I don't agree substantially with your doctrines but I think you have outstanding people among your members. People who are decent and unattracted to the trappings and voracious appetite of the modern generation towards wealth and power. We try to live our lives according to God's standard. Though among us we have those who are just Jehovah's Witnesses by name but not by their ways of life. |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: A Stable Christian Organization by iamSi(m): 1:37pm On Dec 24, 2013 |
[quote author=benny4wax]nice post op but i would love to counter your said doctrines one after the other..... you made mention that your Doctrines has never changed since the beginning, That maybe true...... you don't celebrate Birthdays? (YOUR CUP OF TEA NOT MINE) you dont celebrate Christmas? (THEN I GUESS YOU ALSO DONT BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST AND HIS MISSION) No Blood, (THEN I SUPPOSE WATERS FLOW THROUGH YOUR VEINS) No Two Wives (THAT BELIEVE IS GENERAL EVEN AMONG PAGANS) You never believed in Trinity, (WHO CARES? BUT WE DO) you never believed that everyone goes to heaven. (TO AVOID BAN, I COMMENT MY RESERVE) you don't believe in Hell (DENIAL IS THE GREATEST DEFENCE MECHANISM OF MAN) you don't do politics. (BLA BLA BLA, TALK TO THE HANDS) Is it about what you believe or what the Bible REALLY teaches? Does that matters to you as Christians? |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: A Stable Christian Organization by Maximus85(m): 1:55pm On Dec 24, 2013 |
benny4wax: nice post op but i would love to counter your said doctrines one after the other..... Which other Christian group take the preaching work as sooo serious as the Jehovah's Witnesses? Isn't that the mission of Jesus Christ? People are saying that Christmas is of pagan origin, all you do is rubbish it without checking if what they are saying is true or false. Ordinary Google will help you. |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: A Stable Christian Organization by benny4wax(m): 3:43pm On Dec 24, 2013 |
tell me why you believe Christmas is a pegan believe and i will tell you why i think you are stuppid............ |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: A Stable Christian Organization by Zither(m): 4:35pm On Dec 24, 2013 |
Op, like the way you began the thread. However, your beliefs are sincerely in error. I shall post the Jehovah's Witnesses' beliefs and some facts to serve as future reference point.. "...Of all items listed, only three have been discontinued. (highlighted in red) All are listed, however, to show the absurdity of Watchtower rules and the absolute control leadership has over the lives of members once they join. 1. God is not a Trinity; the doctrine is inspired by the Devil 2. Jesus Christ is a "created being," who at one time did not exist 3. Jesus is not to be worshiped or prayed to-he is only an angel (a.k.a. Michael the archangel) 4. The Holy Spirit is not a person but is "God's active force" i.e. gravity, electricity etc. 5. Heaven is hope only for select Jehovah's Witnesses. The majority of JWs hope to live on "paradise earth" 6. Heaven is limited only to 144,000 Jehovah's Witnesses.There are only 9,105 alive today (2006 figures) 7. Jehovah's Witnesses are the only "true Christians." All churches and denominations are considered "false religion" 8. There is no Hell or eternal judgment ("Hell" is simply the grave) 9. There is no life after death except for the 144,000 Jehovah's Witnesses 10. Salvation is earned only by being a loyal Jehovah's Witness 11. Jesus second coming happened invisibly and secretly in 1914 12. The "first resurrection" occurred in 1918 13. Jesus did not rise from the dead bodily but as a spirit being 14. Jesus was equal to Adam (just a man) 15. Jesus could have sinned and failed in his mission 16. Jesus was not born the savior but became the savior at his baptism 17. God is not omnipresent 18. God is not omniscient 19. JWs are not sure of their salvation 20. All earthly governments are controlled by the Devil 21. The Holy Spirit is only available to select Jehovah's Witnesses 22. They are forbidden to serve in the military 23. They are forbidden to buy Girl Scout cookies 30. They are forbidden to celebrate any holidays (Christmas, Easter, etc.) 31. They are forbidden to celebrate their birthday 32. They are forbidden to run for or hold a political office 33. They are forbidden to vote in any political campaign 34. They are forbidden to serve on a jury 35. They are forbidden to own or wear a cross 36. They are forbidden to speak to former members who are shunned (disfellowshipped) 37. They are forbidden to accept Christmas gifts 38. They are forbidden to purchase Christian products (books, music, plaques, pictures etc.) 39. They are forbidden to read Christian literature 40. They are forbidden to have friends who are not Jehovah's Witnesses 41. They are forbidden to marry a non-Jehovah's Witness 42. They are forbidden to salute the flag, stand for the national anthem, or own a flag 43. They are forbidden to say "God bless you" when someone sneezes. 44. They are forbidden to have a tattoo 45. They are forbidden to use pet foods made with blood or blood products 46. They are forbidden to donate blood or their organs 47. They are forbidden to read any anti-Jehovah's Witness material 48. They are forbidden to interpret the Bible without Watchtower literature to explain it 49. They are forbidden to wear any Christian jewelry 50. They are forbidden to support their country and be patriotic 51. They are forbidden to be involved in martial arts, boxing or wrestling 52. They are forbidden to join any clubs or sports teams 53. They are forbidden to participate in a school play 54. They are forbidden to use any tobacco products 55. They are forbidden to attend the funeral of an ex-Jehovah's Witness 56. They are forbidden to say "good luck" 57. They are forbidden to be a police officer 58. Women are forbidden pray in the presence of men without a hat or head covering 59. They are forbidden to play chess 60. They are forbidden to wear jade jewelry 61. They must not own wind-chimes (they are for chasing away evil spirits) 62. They must read and study Watchtower literature regularly 63. They must go from door to door weekly to gain converts 64. They must attend five meetings per week 65. Only officially approved sexual practices are allowed in marriage 66. Jehovah's Witness Kingdom Halls have no windows 67. If they witness another Jehovah's Witness breaking the rules they must report them to the elders to be interrogated 68. They are forbidden to take a blood transfusion 69. Men are forbidden to wear beards 70. The Watchtower organization is God's prophet on earth today 71. Women must submit to the authority of Watchtower elders 72. They must forgo vacations to attend annual conventions 73. They must study Watchtower books at least six months before they can be baptized 74. Before baptism, one must answer over 80 Bible questions with Scripture references in front of a panel of elders 75. Most of The Book of Revelation applies to the Jehovah's Witnesses 76. They cannot celebrate Mothers or Fathers day (it may produce pride) 77. Kingdom Halls cannot have pews for seating 78. They must appear before a Judicial Committee if they are caught breaking Watchtower rules (Secret files are kept on all members which record these meetings-these files are kept in New York and are never destroyed) 79. All pastors are the "Antichrist" 80. All churches are of Satan 81. God only speaks through the "Governing Body" in Brooklyn, New York 82. They are discouraged from attending college 83. The Lord's supper is only to be eaten by select Jehovah's Witnesses (144,000 group-99.99% of Jehovah's Witnesses are forbidden from taking the Lord's supper) 84. The Lord's supper can only be celebrated annually 85. JWs in times of crisis, are strongly discouraged from consulting with family counselors, including mental health professionals who are not Jehovah's Witnesses 86. Only faithful Jehovah's Witnesses will survive Armageddon 87. If they have a non-Witness spouse their first loyalty is to the elders over their spouse 88. Angels direct the Watchtower organization 89. Judgment day is 1000 years long 90. If you leave Jehovah's Witnesses or are expelled from the organization you will not be resurrected 91. Only Jehovah's Witness prayers are heard by God 92. Man's salvation is secondary in God's plan; Jesus was sent to "vindicate Jehovah's name" 93. God will destroy all non-Jehovah's Witnesses at Armageddon 94. They are strongly discouraged from giving to charity (except Watchtower causes) 95. They must never enter a church building 96. They must never attend a church service 97. They are discouraged from buying a two door car-A "Theocratic" or "spiritually strong" Jehovah's Witness will have a full size car for the door to door work 98. Men must wear short hair 99. They must refer to all Jehovah's Witnesses as "brother" or "sister" 100. They can never question what is printed in Watchtower literature 10l. They must report their witnessing activity to the elders What they're called... -JW services are called "meetings" -JW hymnals are called "song books" (all songs have to be composed by JWs) -The JW religion is referred to by the Witnesses as "The Truth" -The JWs call themselves "The only true Christians" -The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society Inc. of Brooklyn, New York is called "God's Organization" -In conversation JWs call Watchtower headquarters "The Society" -All other religions (pagan, Christian, or any world religion) are called "Babylon the Great" -All Christian pastors and ministers are called the "Antichrist" -Changes in doctrine is called 'New Light'" I got this from a website. It was compiled by a couple who were former members, Paul and Pat Blizard. I know you won't deny the authenticity and accuracy of this compilation. |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: A Stable Christian Organization by Zither(m): 4:49pm On Dec 24, 2013 |
Just a glimpse at this set of beliefs will tell any observer that a lot is amiss in this religion. No offense intended. |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: A Stable Christian Organization by Maximus85(m): 4:52pm On Dec 24, 2013 |
benny4wax: tell me why you believe Christmas is a pegan believe Hmmm! You feel I'll insult you back? We are trained to bear insults and reproach. Its all over the internet, if you can access nairaland, I'm sure you can also access www.google.com. Christmas is said to be the birthday of Jesus. Birthdays was started by pagans. Two Examples recorded in the Bible are Pharaoh and Herod they are idol worshipers. This is proof. And how many prophets or disciples of Jesus was said to celebrate birthdays? Can you boast that christmas was recorded in the Bible? I hope you don't feel stupid to have called someone else stupid. |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: A Stable Christian Organization by Maximus85(m): 5:08pm On Dec 24, 2013 |
Zither: Op, like the way you began the thread. However, your beliefs are sincerely in error. I shall post the Jehovah's Witnesses' beliefs and some facts to serve as future reference point.. [b] Wow! Can you beat your chest and say all these are true? Can you confirm all? Yes some of all these we do but majority of them (laughing) is so ridiculous. "Our Kingdom halls has no Windows" that sound so silly to me. Get to know them as see for yourself. |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: A Stable Christian Organization by Zither(m): 5:13pm On Dec 24, 2013 |
Maximus85:please could you educate us on the ones that are no longer practiced...thank you. |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: A Stable Christian Organization by firestar(f): 5:18pm On Dec 24, 2013 |
Seriously? This is laughable! Zither, good evening. May I ask where you got those findings from? And secondly if you please, have you met any Witness personally? Thank you. |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: A Stable Christian Organization by grandstar(m): 5:37pm On Dec 24, 2013 |
Zither: please could you educate us on the ones that are no longer practiced...thank you. This question can not be answered here. Its too lenghten and its objective is to cause confusion. Best you print it out and meet Witnesses one and one and enquire from them. You will receive answers backed up by the scriptures. The authors are apostates, probably witneses who were disfellowshiped. Apostle Paul said such try and draw away disciples - Acts 20:29-30. Always make sure that what ever is taught is defended by bible scriptures (Acts 17:11). Jesus did that- Matthew 4:1-10 1 Like |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: A Stable Christian Organization by Nobody: 6:34pm On Dec 24, 2013 |
I don't know if they are forbidden from having friends outside their religion but I sure have some really nice friends I relate well with. I also share their belief that heaven is not for everybody. The bible is explicit about who will inherit the earth. Besides, when we recite the Lords prayer, we say "Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven". So, a perfect earth which is also the kingdom of God is meant to be inherited by Gods people. 1 Like |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: A Stable Christian Organization by Maximus85(m): 7:58pm On Dec 24, 2013 |
grandstar: Everything we preach is from the Bible. Ask us any question and we will answer from the holy scriptures. But who said our kingdom halls don't have windows? I can't still stop laughing. |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: A Stable Christian Organization by Zither(m): 9:26pm On Dec 24, 2013 |
firestar: Seriously?Firestar, good evening to you. http://watchthetower.net/reasons.html is where I got the information. Yes I have met Witnesses but, unfortunately, I haven't come across any since discovering the information from the link above. I know it is ridiculous..that was my initial reaction when I read it. However, I have only posted it as it is. You can verify through the link given. |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: A Stable Christian Organization by Maximus85(m): 9:43pm On Dec 24, 2013 |
Zither: Firestar, good evening to you. http://watchthetower.net/reasons.html is where I got the information. Yes I have met Witnesses but, unfortunately, I haven't come across any since discovering the information from the link above. [b]we have just one website www.jw.org go there and see for yourself. |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: A Stable Christian Organization by Zither(m): 9:54pm On Dec 24, 2013 |
grandstar:If a Witness could post a summary of Jehovah's Witnesses' creed, I mean the ones being practiced today, it would be much appreciated. Should I meet a Witness, I am sure to ask him/her to shed more light on the Rules of Jehovah's Witnesses. |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: A Stable Christian Organization by Zither(m): 9:57pm On Dec 24, 2013 |
Maximus85:Will do just that. |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: A Stable Christian Organization by Zither(m): 10:00pm On Dec 24, 2013 |
I want to get my facts straight before anything. I have decided to reserve my comments until I have gone through the JW site. 1 Like |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: A Stable Christian Organization by Maximus85(m): 10:42pm On Dec 24, 2013 |
Zither: I want to get my facts straight before anything. I have decided to reserve my comments until I have gone through the JW site. Dear friend, we don't call it rules. We simply refer to them as Bible principles. We follow them to the letter. Anything without Bible backing, we don't do. Let's take the Blood issue for instance. God told Noah not to eat blood. These other people agreed ooo but they still take blood into their veins. If a doctor said one should not take drugs and the person didn't sniff it but injected it, wouldn't that be same as taking drugs? The modern doctors (Bible aside now) have agreed to the fact that blood transfusion causes more damage. They have come up with alternative treatments. Please just visit the website and see. Search for anything. |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: A Stable Christian Organization by Maximus85(m): 11:20pm On Dec 24, 2013 |
Zither: I want to get my facts straight before anything. I have decided to reserve my comments until I have gone through the JW site. |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: A Stable Christian Organization by NnaNna4(m): 8:31pm On Dec 26, 2013 |
religion with no foundation on christ,Holy Spirit and does not believe in hell $ haeven is nothing but sham |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: A Stable Christian Organization by Nobody: 8:48pm On Dec 26, 2013 |
Nn-a-Nn-a: Granted, Christian religion without foundation in Christ is nothing. But I wonder whom you are referring to. If you are referring to the witnesses, then you really need to know them better. We believe the holy spirit, hell (shoel/hades) and heaven. Those are in the bible. |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: A Stable Christian Organization by Efere701(m): 2:33pm On Dec 27, 2013 |
I was raised a jehovah's witness and I cannot thank Jehovah and my parents enough. I am a nice youngman, and moderate in habits. I cannot count the many things I've gained in the course of my life. I've experience the joy that comes from seeing people's eyes light up as they understand bible truths...calling on people's homes to preach even when they cld be apathetic to our message has taught me patience,love,humility,self-sacrifice, and long suffering. These qualities are lacking in our world today, and to think that I developed them, its a privilege. Í have a wondÉrful brotherhood. People who can render assisstance to me in whatever waÝ possible shld therÉ be a need. I have Jehovah God, who I can be ever close to as long as I live. I'm going to let out something. This world i§ so cold. No love, no loyalty, happiness is empty. In Jehovah's organisation, you can be truly happy because you are taught to apply bible principles...if I was somewhere else I have no idea how my life wldve been,but I'm sure I wldnt have these gains. Get to know Jehovah's witnesses. If you want to follow public opinion,you'll have every reason to dislike or hate them. Take Þime to investigate them, study their beliefs. Check carefully if it is founded on sc®ipture. Many who have done this have been amazed at their discovery. I love people, I share God's will which is that all sorts of persons come to an acurate knowledge and be saved. 2 Likes |
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