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Re: Boko-Haram: Shekau Reappears, In Video Claims Resposiblity For Attacks On JTF by Nobody: 8:56pm On Dec 26, 2013
DMainMan:

U that even ask the question know dat it can never b true. Na wa for u or are u still a learner.

The Quran contains at least 109 verses that
call Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the
sake of Islamic rule. Some are quite graphic,
with commands to chop off heads and fingers
and kill infidels wherever they may be
hiding. Muslims who do not join the fight are
called 'hypocrites' and warned that Allah will
send them to Hell if they do not join the
slaughter.

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Re: Boko-Haram: Shekau Reappears, In Video Claims Resposiblity For Attacks On JTF by Mishydoo(m): 8:59pm On Dec 26, 2013
Incompetent nigerian forces.....how dare they lie the whole nation that hez dead wen he is still alive and scheming!

https://www.nairaland.com/1472161/pastors-prophesy-where-boko-haram
Re: Boko-Haram: Shekau Reappears, In Video Claims Resposiblity For Attacks On JTF by fkaz(m): 9:00pm On Dec 26, 2013
Is this not the same shekau nigeria army said they have killed, because U.S govt placed bounty on him.
Now i refuse to believe the so-called nigeria army any time they claim to kill 50, 100 1000 boko-haram member again. Nigeria army have now become a conduit pipeline in looting govt found
Re: Boko-Haram: Shekau Reappears, In Video Claims Resposiblity For Attacks On JTF by tintingz(m): 9:02pm On Dec 26, 2013
Frankenstein: He said the holy Koran and hadith support his actions. Is that true, nairaland Muslims?
NO! Not true, shekau is a bigot, liar and hell bound.

And btw that video must be old video.
Re: Boko-Haram: Shekau Reappears, In Video Claims Resposiblity For Attacks On JTF by Nobody: 9:03pm On Dec 26, 2013
azeezlateefah:
what do u know about quran and hadith that this fool is using as a shield..do u av a copy ? READ QURAN CHAPTER 2 VERSE 255-259 THEN YOU'LL KNOW SHECOW IS FYTING FOR HIMSELT NOT MUSLIMS...PEACE


Quran (2:216) - " Fighting is prescribed for you ,
and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye
dislike a thing which is good for you, and that
ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah
knoweth, and ye know not."

Not only does this
verse establish that violence can be virtuous,
but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is
intended only in self-defense, since the
audience was obviously not under attack at
the time. From the Hadith, we know that this
verse was narrated at a time that Muhammad
was actually trying to motivate his people into
raiding merchant caravans for loot.

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Re: Boko-Haram: Shekau Reappears, In Video Claims Resposiblity For Attacks On JTF by Nobody: 9:05pm On Dec 26, 2013
Thank God GEJ said he doesn't know if this guy is dead or not cause they would have called him names by now. The Nigerian military is begining to look like a joke, they can't even kill an ordinary shekau.

The Federal Government should set aside a secret terrorism anti force that will take care of this idiiott called shekau, I think someone in the JTF must be working with this guy. If tis guy is alive truly then there aint a reason to ever trust the Nigerian military
Re: Boko-Haram: Shekau Reappears, In Video Claims Resposiblity For Attacks On JTF by tintingz(m): 9:05pm On Dec 26, 2013
AKUNWATA1:

The Quran contains at least 109 verses that
call Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the
sake of Islamic rule. Some are quite graphic,
with commands to chop off heads and fingers
and kill infidels wherever they may be
hiding. Muslims who do not join the fight are
called 'hypocrites' and warned that Allah will
send them to Hell if they do not join the
slaughter.
And where does the Quran say such? Stop reading out of context
Re: Boko-Haram: Shekau Reappears, In Video Claims Resposiblity For Attacks On JTF by Mina98(f): 9:07pm On Dec 26, 2013
This video was posted almost 2 months ago,stale news undecided
Re: Boko-Haram: Shekau Reappears, In Video Claims Resposiblity For Attacks On JTF by Mishydoo(m): 9:08pm On Dec 26, 2013
mrphysics: lets ask prophet T.B Joshua if
1. the man is still alive?
2. if he has any power to destroy Nigeria or democracy
3. if t.b joshua can pray and God will paralyse d man etc

https://www.nairaland.com/1472161/pastors-prophesy-where-boko-haram
Re: Boko-Haram: Shekau Reappears, In Video Claims Resposiblity For Attacks On JTF by nagoma(m): 9:13pm On Dec 26, 2013
Someone is really really desperate to link the terror group BH with Islam. I wonder who that actor in the video was. It was certainly not Shekau and the few seconds clip has no relation with the OP narrative.
Re: Boko-Haram: Shekau Reappears, In Video Claims Resposiblity For Attacks On JTF by tintingz(m): 9:15pm On Dec 26, 2013
AKUNWATA1:


Quran (2:216) - " Fighting is prescribed for you ,
and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye
dislike a thing which is good for you, and that
ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah
knoweth, and ye know not."

Not only does this
verse establish that violence can be virtuous,
but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is
intended only in self-defense, since the
audience was obviously not under attack at
the time. From the Hadith, we know that this
verse was narrated at a time that Muhammad
was actually trying to motivate his people into
raiding merchant caravans for loot.
LOL see how you quote the Quran out of context...muslims are only instructed to fight for self-defense by fighting does who fight them.

"Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loveth not transgressors. (Quran, 2:190)"

Note the verse said "do not transgress limit"

Allah further said

"But if the enemy incline towards peace, do thou (also) incline towards peace, and trust in God: for He is One that heareth and knoweth (all things). (Quran, 8:61)"

Now this is clear if the enemy incline toward peace there should be peace. Read the Quran and understand it before posting

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Re: Boko-Haram: Shekau Reappears, In Video Claims Resposiblity For Attacks On JTF by tutu1: 9:15pm On Dec 26, 2013
I AM SURE APC GO DONE GO MEET AM TO JOIN THEIR PARTY, LAST TIME I CHECKED THEY WERE RECRUITING ANY THING OPPOSITION LOL
Re: Boko-Haram: Shekau Reappears, In Video Claims Resposiblity For Attacks On JTF by Imagod(m): 9:18pm On Dec 26, 2013
fkaz: Is this not the same shekau nigeria army said they have killed, because U.S govt placed bounty on him.
Now i refuse to believe the so-called nigeria army any time they claim to kill 50, 100 1000 boko-haram member again. Nigeria army have now become a conduit pipeline in looting govt found
who else has the feeling that this guy is a member of boko haram? Hahaha
Re: Boko-Haram: Shekau Reappears, In Video Claims Resposiblity For Attacks On JTF by rapturereal: 9:37pm On Dec 26, 2013
signs of the endtime. And mr Shekau or whatsoever u call urself, u're not God. U can not create an ant and therefore, u have no right to take life. You will be judged one day. Your counterparts such as Saddam Hussein, Osama, Ghadaffi, etc have all receive their rewards. U're just a sawdust before our Lord Jesus christ. D God who created u and gave u life dat u're using to take other people's own wil soon judge u.

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Re: Boko-Haram: Shekau Reappears, In Video Claims Resposiblity For Attacks On JTF by DMainMan: 9:38pm On Dec 26, 2013
AKUNWATA1:

The Quran contains at least 109 verses that
call Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the
sake of Islamic rule. Some are quite graphic,
with commands to chop off heads and fingers
and kill infidels wherever they may be
hiding. Muslims who do not join the fight are
called 'hypocrites' and warned that Allah will
send them to Hell if they do not join the
slaughter.
























Guy y lying na. Is this how you people do your evangelism to lie against oda people religion. Na wa for you o.

Even a seven year old kid know dat Shekau is an oppressor acheiving his own goal lying under religion. Grow up kid. U ar not getting younger.

Stop inciting violence. U ar beta dan dis.

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Re: Boko-Haram: Shekau Reappears, In Video Claims Resposiblity For Attacks On JTF by seunmatt: 9:42pm On Dec 26, 2013
Retarded Idiot: Who is Shekau? undecided

Is he Nigeria's President? angry angry angry

Ur name becomes ugringringringringrin
Re: Boko-Haram: Shekau Reappears, In Video Claims Resposiblity For Attacks On JTF by DMainMan: 9:45pm On Dec 26, 2013
tintingz: LOL see how you quote the Quran out of context...muslims are only instructed to fight for self-defense by fighting does who fight them.

"Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loveth not transgressors. (Quran, 2:190)"

Note the verse said "do not transgress limit"

Allah further said

"But if the enemy incline towards peace, do thou (also) incline towards peace, and trust in God: for He is One that heareth and knoweth (all things). (Quran, 8:61)"

Now this is clear if the enemy incline toward peace there should be peace. Read the quran to understand before posting

Nyc 1. Dis guys just misinterprete the Holy Quran. It is not even there fault as one of their pastor must have told them these lies. Why wont he, when he is busy finding ways of collecting 10%.

What pains me is dat most of these guys have neva read the Holy Qura'n allowing themselves to b prone to brainwashing by their leaders and d media.
Re: Boko-Haram: Shekau Reappears, In Video Claims Resposiblity For Attacks On JTF by tintingz(m): 9:48pm On Dec 26, 2013
DMainMan:

Guy y lying na. Is this how you people do your evangelism to lie against oda people religion. Na wa for you o.

Even a seven year old kid know dat Shekau is an oppressor acheiving his own goal lying under religion. Grow up kid. U ar not getting younger.

Stop inciting violence. U ar beta dan dis.
Don't mind him he only want to start religion bashing in this thread.

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Re: Boko-Haram: Shekau Reappears, In Video Claims Resposiblity For Attacks On JTF by tintingz(m): 9:50pm On Dec 26, 2013
DMainMan:

Nyc 1. Dis guys just misinterprete the Holy Quran. It is not even there fault as one of their pastor must have told them these lies. Why wont he, when he is busy finding ways of collecting 10%.

What pains me is dat most of these guys have neva read the Holy Qura'n allowing themselves to b prone to brainwashing by their leaders and d media.

LOL, it is called lying by evangelism grin

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Re: Boko-Haram: Shekau Reappears, In Video Claims Resposiblity For Attacks On JTF by lincolnj88: 9:51pm On Dec 26, 2013
[quote author=tintingz]LOL see how you quote the Quran out of context...muslims are only instructed to fight for self-defense by fighting does who fight them.

"Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loveth not transgressors. (Quran, 2:190)"

Note the verse said "do not transgress limit"

Allah further said

["But if the enemy incline towards peace, do thou (also) incline towards peace,[/u] and trust in God: for He is One that heareth and knoweth (all things). (Quran, 8:61)

Now this is clear if the enemy incline toward peace there should be peace. Read the Quran and understand it before
Qur'an 5:32

What you are actually presented with by Muslims is a distorted, out-of-context and wholly misleading paraphrasing of the following verse:
On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if anyone slew a person - unless it be in retaliation for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew all mankind: and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all humanity.
Qur'an 5:32

Its Context

Firstly, this verse is written in past tense (Ordained, not Ordain) and clearly does not apply to Muslims but to "the Children of Israel" i.e. the Jews who, according to Islam, recieved an earlier set of scriptures. In fact, it's mistakingly referencing a rabbinical commentary found in the Talmud as if it were the words of God.

Secondly, when the clause which allows killing is reinserted and we read it in context with the following two verses directed at Muslims (notice the reference to Allah's messenger and the switch to present tense), what first appeared on the surface to be a peaceful message, is in actual fact a chilling warning to non-believers

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Re: Boko-Haram: Shekau Reappears, In Video Claims Resposiblity For Attacks On JTF by lincolnj88: 9:52pm On Dec 26, 2013
Qur'an 5:32

What you are actually presented with by Muslims is a distorted, out-of-context and wholly misleading paraphrasing of the following verse:
On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if anyone slew a person - unless it be in retaliation for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew all mankind: and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all humanity.
Qur'an 5:32
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Analysis
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Its Context

Firstly, this verse is written in past tense (Ordained, not Ordain) and clearly does not apply to Muslims but to "the Children of Israel" i.e. the Jews who, according to Islam, recieved an earlier set of scriptures. In fact, it's mistakingly referencing a rabbinical commentary found in the Talmud as if it were the words of God.

Secondly, when the clause which allows killing is reinserted and we read it in context with the following two verses directed at Muslims (notice the reference to Allah's messenger and the switch to present tense), what first appeared on the surface to be a peaceful message, is in actual fact a chilling warning to non-believers:

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Re: Boko-Haram: Shekau Reappears, In Video Claims Resposiblity For Attacks On JTF by waleadex(m): 9:55pm On Dec 26, 2013
Why I won't doubt his claim of still being alive is because JTF didn't capture his corpse. So,it's a 50-50 thing but I am just so sure his days are numbered if alive.
Plus,I am not just happy today reading all disturbing headlines on NL today as they are all linked to Islam,I am really disturbed. All I just wish for now is that Allah should restore the peace in which Islam is known for,and to clear of those who keep ascribing all forms vices with Islam!

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Re: Boko-Haram: Shekau Reappears, In Video Claims Resposiblity For Attacks On JTF by duni04(m): 9:59pm On Dec 26, 2013
But there's something i don't understand. How can hundreds of people be riding in a convoy with tanks and armored vehicles, and then go and overrun a whole military barracks! They even had time to make a video of it! We're supposed to have 2 or 3 satellites in space, drones (locally made ones and the ones we bought from Israel), Military aircrafts, planes and jets. How on earth is it even possible to steal an armored tank and hide it? There's just something very fishy about what's going on in Bornu state. We need fearless journalists to go in there and find out the real situation of things.
Re: Boko-Haram: Shekau Reappears, In Video Claims Resposiblity For Attacks On JTF by Youngtekkey(m): 10:05pm On Dec 26, 2013
that islam and peace are two different words that can never go together...islam is a religion of rebellion and terrorists,killing is their pride and is ordained by their moon-god(allah)

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Re: Boko-Haram: Shekau Reappears, In Video Claims Resposiblity For Attacks On JTF by MicroBox: 10:10pm On Dec 26, 2013
Which language was he speaking (Shekau) that is neither Hausa language nor Arabic
Re: Boko-Haram: Shekau Reappears, In Video Claims Resposiblity For Attacks On JTF by meforyou1(m): 10:13pm On Dec 26, 2013
Bloody terrorist coward. What's hadith by the way? Another blood-filled Islamic document. And u say we wount chase ayatollah okorocha away from IMO govt house in 2015? And that Igbo can't support GEJ till 2019? We will with all our might
Re: Boko-Haram: Shekau Reappears, In Video Claims Resposiblity For Attacks On JTF by cole265(m): 10:17pm On Dec 26, 2013
Retarded Idiot: Who is Shekau? undecided

Is he Nigeria's President? angry angry angry
Yes! ...mumu!

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