The Bible’s answer

The Bible does not give a specific date for the birth of Jesus Christ, as these reference works show:

“"The true birth date of Christ is unknown."”—New Catholic Encyclopedia.

“"The exact date of Christ’s birth is not known."”—Encyclopedia of Early Christianity.

While the Bible does not directly answer the question, ‘When was Jesus born?’ it does describe two events surrounding his birth that lead many to conclude that he was not born on December 25.
Not in winter

The registration. Shortly before Jesus was born, Caesar Augustus issued a decree ordering “"all the inhabited earth to be registered."” Everyone had to register in “"his own city,"” which might have required a journey of a week or more. (Luke 2:1-3) That order—probably made to support taxation and military conscription—would have been unpopular at any time of year, but it is unlikely that Augustus would have provoked his subjects further by forcing many of them to make long trips during the cold winter.

The sheep. Shepherds were “"living out of doors and keeping watches in the night over their flocks."” (Luke 2: The book Daily Life in the Time of Jesus notes that flocks lived in the open air from “"the week before the Passover [late March]"” through mid-November. It then adds: “"They passed the winter under cover; and from this alone it may be seen that the traditional date for Christmas, in the winter, is unlikely to be right, since the Gospel says that the shepherds were in the fields."”

In early fall

We can estimate when Jesus was born by counting backward from his death on Passover, Nisan 14 in the spring of the year 33 C.E. (John 19:14-16) Jesus was about 30 years old when he began his three-and-a-half-year ministry, so he was born in the early fall of 2 B.C.E.—Luke 3:23.
Why is Christmas on December 25?

Since there is no evidence that the birth of Jesus Christ occurred on December 25, why is Christmas celebrated on this date? The Encyclopaedia Britannica says that church leaders probably chose it “"to coincide with the pagan Roman festival marking the ‘birthday of the unconquered sun,"’” at the time of the winter solstice. According to The Encyclopedia Americana, many scholars believe that this was done “"in order to make Christianity more meaningful to pagan converts."”

this wont go down the throat of christains

rmaubsiau: this wont go down the throat of christains

They are NOT Christians. Please, cos I go to church on sundays handling bibles singing aloud praying for enemies to die, die ,die , die... Focusing more on prosperity rather than spirituality... Praying to be the first in all things , to be VIP and others a Less Important persons? Well , find a better word sir and NOT Christians

hooged:
The Bible’s answer

The Bible does not give a specific date for the birth of Jesus Christ, as these reference works show:

“"The true birth date of Christ is unknown."”—New Catholic Encyclopedia.

“"The exact date of Christ’s birth is not known."”—Encyclopedia of Early Christianity.

While the Bible does not directly answer the question, ‘When was Jesus born?’ it does describe two events surrounding his birth that lead many to conclude that he was not born on December 25.
Not in winter

The registration. Shortly before Jesus was born, Caesar Augustus issued a decree ordering “"all the inhabited earth to be registered."” Everyone had to register in “"his own city,"” which might have required a journey of a week or more. (Luke 2:1-3) That order—probably made to support taxation and military conscription—would have been unpopular at any time of year, but it is unlikely that Augustus would have provoked his subjects further by forcing many of them to make long trips during the cold winter.

The sheep. Shepherds were “"living out of doors and keeping watches in the night over their flocks."” (Luke 2: The book Daily Life in the Time of Jesus notes that flocks lived in the open air from “"the week before the Passover [late March]"” through mid-November. It then adds: “"They passed the winter under cover; and from this alone it may be seen that the traditional date for Christmas, in the winter, is unlikely to be right, since the Gospel says that the shepherds were in the fields."”

In early fall

We can estimate when Jesus was born by counting backward from his death on Passover, Nisan 14 in the spring of the year 33 C.E. (John 19:14-16) Jesus was about 30 years old when he began his three-and-a-half-year ministry, so he was born in the early fall of 2 B.C.E.—Luke 3:23.
Why is Christmas on December 25?

Since there is no evidence that the birth of Jesus Christ occurred on December 25, why is Christmas celebrated on this date? The Encyclopaedia Britannica says that church leaders probably chose it “"to coincide with the pagan Roman festival marking the ‘birthday of the unconquered sun,"’” at the time of the winter solstice. According to The Encyclopedia Americana, many scholars believe that this was done “"in order to make Christianity more meaningful to pagan converts."”

the question is was he ever born or just another myth?

7–2 BC

martha: 7–2 BC

bullshyt..... First question to ask is did he really exist or was he just one of the those mythological characters created by roman-greeko fairy tale. how come it was so easy to have his words written down by Hod knows who but thesame aliens can mot tell exactly when the dude was born exactly....stoopid tales. The bible is one big fraud.

yes you are correct. JESUS was born in the early fall. infact the 17th day of the month of TISHRI the 7th month in the midst of the FEAST OF THE TABERNACLES. This corresponds to our sept to early oct. Is it in the BIBLE? YES

rhymz: bullshyt..... First question to ask is did he really exist or was he just one of the those mythological characters created by roman-greeko fairy tale. how come it was so easy to have his words written down by Hod knows who but thesame aliens can mot tell exactly when the dude was born exactly....stoopid tales. The bible is one big fraud.

Father forgive this guy for he doesnt know what he is saying

martha: Father forgive this guy for he doesnt know what he is saying

You are the one that needs some brain surgery if you think Jesus Christ realy was a person that actually existed at some point. Even Paul the almighty Christian Forger did not know who really Jesus was instead he gave his own Gnostic version of a christ different from the one in the gospels..... Paul was not aware of Jesus's miracles or sayings yet he was preaching about q christ that was a contemporary....open your eyes and see all the inconsistencies of the bible.

andico34: yes you are correct. JESUS was born in the early fall. infact the 17th day of the month of TISHRI the 7th month in the midst of the FEAST OF THE TABERNACLES. This corresponds to our sept to early oct. Is it in the BIBLE? YES

By the way, how come it is so hard to tell the exact date when Jesus was born, yet they claim he started teaching in the temple at the age of 12 and died at 32. How can you put
a figure to a man's age when you can't exactly
tell when he was born? Na wa o!

rhymz: You are the one that needs some brain surgery if you think Jesus Christ realy was a person that actually existed at some point. Even Paul the almighty Christian Forger did not know who really Jesus was instead he gave his own Gnostic version of a christ different from the one in the gospels..... Paul was not aware of Jesus's miracles or sayings yet he was preaching about q christ that was a contemporary....open your eyes and see all the inconsistencies of the bible.

Ok...

rhymz: You are the one that needs some brain surgery if you think Jesus Christ realy was a person that actually existed at some point. Even Paul the almighty Christian Forger did not know who really Jesus was instead he gave his own Gnostic version of a christ different from the one in the gospels..... Paul was not aware of Jesus's miracles or sayings yet he was preaching about q christ that was a contemporary....open your eyes and see all the inconsistencies of the bible.

Sorry Mr. Rhymz , Please don't send me to the surgeon yet ... I just wanna know your religion and how far you have traveled globally... Please I beg of you, don't send me to the hospital.. I just wanna be a friend

martha: U are a fool with pride

Hashanah....typical of Christ like goons to get militant when logic fails them or facts expose their ignorance.....I challenge you to come up with documented evidence of Jesus's existence, if you can't then go to hell, you're just another Christian goon with q bamboozled mental capacity.....you probably have been told that you will go to hell if you dare question the biblical fables that is rife with lies and inconsistencies. can you tell us what Jesus looked like? abeg go siddon for gutter you nincompoop

iamSi:

Sorry Mr. Rhymz , Please don't send me to the surgeon yet ... I just wanna know your religion and how far you have traveled globally... Please I beg of you, don't send me to the hospital.. I just wanna be a friend

what exactly is your point, Mr

rhymz: Hashanah....typical of Christ like goons to get militant when logic fails them or facts expose their ignorance.....I challenge you to come up with documented evidence of Jesus's existence, if you can't then go to hell, you're just another Christian goon with q bamboozled mental capacity.....you probably have been told that you will go to hell if you dare question the biblical fables that is rife with lies and inconsistencies. can you tell us what Jesus looked like? abeg go siddon for gutter you nincompoop

Ok..

Hmmm

martha: I'm a polite person. I'll tell you excuse me and shut the f*ck up in the same sentence.

tell that to Jesus, I am sure that will get you Richie heaven.

1. MOSES' SWIFT PERSONALITY
NUM 12:3
"Now the man Moses was very meek, above all
the men which were upon the fact of the
earth."
NUM 31:14, 17 &18
"And Moses was wroth...And Moses said unto
them, "Have ye saved all the women alive? ...
Now therefore kill every male among the little
ones, and kill every woman, ... But all the
women children ... keep alive for yourselves."
lol. . Wow, the meekest Man on earth gave
these orders
2. JESUS' FIRST SERMON WAS IT ON THE
PLAIN OR MOUNTAIN?
MAT 5:1,2
"And seeing the multitudes, he went up into a
mountain: and when he was set, his disciples
came unto him: And he opened his mouth, and
taught them, saying...."
LUK 6:17,20
"And he came down with them, and stood in
the plain, and the company of his disciples, and
a great multitude of people...came to hear
him.. And he lifted up his eyes on his disciples
and said..."
3. JESUS' LAST WORDS ON THE CROSS
MAT 27:46,50
"And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a
loud voice, saying, "Eli, eli, lama sabachthani?"
that is to say, "My God, my God, why hast thou
forsaken me?" ...Jesus, when he cried again
with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost."
LUK 23:46
"And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice,
he said, "Father, unto thy hands I commend my
spirit:" and having said thus, he gave up the
ghost."
JOHN 19:30: "When Jesus therefore had
received the vinegar, he said, "It is finished:"
and he bowed his head, and gave up the
ghost."
4. HOW MANY TIMES DID THE rooster CROW?
MARK14:72
And the second time the rooster crew. And
Peter called to mind the word that Jesus said
unto him, Before the rooster crow twice, thou
shalt deny me thrice. And when he thought
thereon, he wept.
MAT 26:74
Then began he to curse and to swear, saying, I
know not the man. And immediately the rooster
crew.
MAT 26:75
And Peter remembered the word of Jesus,
which said unto him, Before the rooster crow,
thou shalt deny me thrice. And he went out,
and wept bitterly.
LUK 22:60
And Peter said, Man, I know not what thou
sayest. And immediately, while he yet spake,
the rooster crew.
LUK 22:61
And the Lord turned, and looked upon Peter.
And Peter remembered the word of the Lord,
how he had said unto him, Before the rooster
crow, thou shalt deny me thrice.
JOH 13:38
Jesus answered him, Wilt thou lay down thy life
for my sake? Verily, verily, I say unto thee, The
rooster shall not crow, still thou hast denied me
thrice.
JOH 18:27
Peter then denied again: and immediately the
rooster crew
5. WHOM DIDI THEY SEE AT THE TOMB?
MAT 28:2
And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for
the angel of the Lord descended from heaven,
and came and rolled back the stone from the
door, and sat upon it.
MAT 28:3
His countenance was like lightning, and his
raiment white as snow: MAT 28:4 And for fear
of him the keepers did shake, and became as
dead men.
MAT 28:5
And the angel answered and said unto the
women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek
Jesus, which was crucified.
MAR 16:5
And entering into the sepulchre, they saw a
young man sitting on the right side, clothed in a
long white garment; and they were affrighted.
LUK 24:4
And it came to pass, as they were much
perplexed thereabout, behold, two men stood by
them in shining garments
JOH 20:12
And seeth two angels in white sitting, the one
at the head, and the other at the feet, where
the body of Jesus had lain. God change?
6. YEARS OF FAMINE
II SAMUEL 24:13:
So God came to David, and told him, and said
unto him, shall SEVEN YEARS OF FAMINE come
unto thee in thy land? or will thou flee three
months before thine enemies, while they
pursue. thee?
I CHRONICLES 21:11
SO God came to David, and said unto him,
Thus saith the LORD, Choose thee. Either
THREE YEARS OF FAMINE or three months to
be destroyed before thy foes, while that the
sword of thine enemies overtaketh thee; Moved
David to anger?
II SAMUEL 24
And again the anger of the LORD was kindled
against Israel, and he moved David against
them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah.
I CHRONICLES 21
And SATAN stood up against Israel, and
provoked David to number Israel.
7. DID THOSE WITH SAUL/PAUL HEAR A VOICE
AT HIS CONVERSION?
ACT 9:7
And the men which journeyed with him stood
speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man.
ACT 22:9
And they that were with me saw indeed the
light, and were afraid; but they heard not
the voice of him that spake to me.
8. HOW EXACTLY DID JUDAS DIE?
MAT 27:5
"And he cast down the pieces of silver into the
temple and departed, and went out and hanged
himself."
ACT 1:18
"And falling headlong, he burst asunder in the
midst, and all of his bowels gushed out."
9. ASCENDING TO HEAVEN
2KI 2:11
"And Elijah went up by a whirlwind into
heaven."
JOH 3:13
"No man hath ascended up to heaven but he
that came down from heaven, ...
10. WHO MOVED DAVID AGAINST ISREAL?
II SAMUEL 24
And again the anger of the LORD was kindled
against Israel, and he moved David against
them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah.
I CHRONICLES 21
And SATAN stood up against Israel, and
provoked David to number Israel.
11. THE SINS OF THE FATHER
ISA 14:21
Prepare slaughter for his children for the
iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise,
nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the
world with cities.
DEU 24:16
The fathers shall not be put to death for the
children, neither shall the children be put to
death for the fathers: every man shall be put to
death for his own sin.

here goes the inerrant word of God outdoing itself with inconsistencies and rubbish imcomprehensible fables...lol

rhymz: the question is was he ever born or just another myth?

So the person's birth which divided history into BC and AD is a myth?? This world must be mythical then. Even the famous atheists do not question the birth of Christ.

haibe:

So the person's birth which divided history into BC and AD is a myth?? This world must be mythical then. Even the famous atheists do not question the birth of Christ.

hahaha...how old is the kid who invented the BC and the AD dating system, Christians or Muslims?..lol
which famous atheist do not question the birth of Christ, Oyedepo or Adeboye! what a joke.

rhymz: tell that to Jesus, I am sure that will get you Richie heaven.

Ok...

martha: Wat is wrong with this one? why are u kissing his butt? smh see as u dey downgrade urself

Do we now have Christian Boko Harams ? _ OH!!! You wanna fight back? I see, Please OOOOoo _ don't cross your line OOOoo, you don't wanna be sent back to where you really belong oooooo _ See hypocrites , thought u advocating for Jesus. See utterance sef, NL should be banning under aged now ooo.

iamSi:

Do we now have Christian Boko Harams ? _ OH!!! You wanna fight back? I see, Please OOOOoo _ don't cross your line OOOoo, you don't wanna be sent back to where you really belong oooooo _ See hypocrites , thought u advocating for Jesus. See utterance sef, NL should be banning under aged now ooo.

Ok...

rhymz: hahaha...how old is the kid who invented the BC and the AD dating system, Christians or Muslims?..lol
which famous atheist do not question the birth of Christ, Oyedepo or Adeboye! what a joke.

So History division into BC and AD is new to you? Why not reject it and make a change since the birth of Christ is mythical. .

An atheist is one of those who confirmed the shroud of turin to be an archaeological evidence of the existence of Christ.

James campbell, an atheist proved the birth of Christ was not dec 25 but months before implying Christ actually lived.

While trying to be skeptical, learn to apply at least an atom of intelligence.

rhymz: what exactly is your point, Mr

Never Mind bro, Opened the wrong door... I was actually signing out... Just found myself amidst psychos...

martha: U lack common sense... Ur trynna gain favour from a fool and that also makes u one... I can only please one person per day, today is not your day and tomorrow doesn't look good either so screw u and go back to d poultry where u belong... Indigenous dimwit

Calm down sis.

haibe:

Calm down sis.

Ok

haibe:

So History division into BC and AD is new to you? Why not reject it and make a change since the birth of Christ is mythical. .

An atheist is one of those who confirmed the shroud of turin to be an archaeological evidence of the existence of Christ.

James campbell, an atheist proved the birth of Christ was not dec 25 but months before implying Christ actually lived.

While trying to be skeptical, learn to apply at least an atom of intelligence.

hahaha.....are you trying to be smart or your ability to comprehend simple logic is flawed.... you were trying to justify the birth of your Christ through the dating system of BC and AD and I queried your logic by asking you to tell me how logical it is for you to use a Christian invention to support the birth of Christ....outside of the biblical fairy tale, there is no known historical document that points to or talked about Christ and his work yet there are thousands of books written about prominent people that existed at the time, unless it is a coincidence that he Christ was particularly singled out not to be properly documented by the known historians of the time then how do you explain his existence. Jesus is a mixed of different mythological characters put together, there is a reason why no one can point to how he looks, his birth or even his so-called disciples.....all we have are pseudo documents from unknown authors named after his disciples....and you think people should not ask questions?

martha: U lack common sense... Ur trynna gain favour from a fool and that also makes u one... I can only please one person per day, today is not your day and tomorrow doesn't look good either so screw u and go back to d poultry where u belong... Indigenous dimwit

Do you ever read your bible ? Or the best you could do is attacking people, calling people names? Well , I have got a verse for you : Proverbs 26 : 4, 5

" Do not answer any one S-T-U-P-I-D according to his/her F-O-O-L-I-S-H-N-E-S-S that you yourself also may NOT become equal to him/her"

Got loads of better things to do and don't prove I-N-S-A-N-E no more on NL _ its never meant for this .

Never come back here if you are what you said you are , and if you do come back ... That means you are Just as we all thought...then again watch those your S-W-ear words - Followers of Christ don't do that either...

iamSi:

Do you ever read your bible ? Or the best you could do is attacking people, calling people names? Well , I have got a verse for you : Proverbs 26 : 4, 5

" Do not answer any one S-T-U-P-I-D according to his/her F-O-O-L-I-S-H-N-E-S-S that you yourself also may NOT become equal to him/her"

Got loads of better things to do and don't prove I-N-S-A-N-E no more on NL _ its never meant for this .

Never come back here if you are what you said you are , and if you do come back ... That means you are Just as we all thought...then again watch those your S-W-ear words - Followers of Christ don't do that either...

Ok...

rhymz: hahaha.....are you trying to be smart or your ability to comprehend simple logic is flawed.... you were trying to justify the birth of your Christ through the dating system of BC and AD and I queried your logic by asking you to tell me how logical it is for you to use a Christian invention to support the birth of Christ....outside of the biblical fairy tale, there is no known historical document that points to or talked about Christ and his work yet there are thousands of books written about prominent people that existed at the time, unless it is a coincidence that he Christ was particularly singled out not to be properly documented by the known historians of the time then how do you explain his existence. Jesus is a mixed of different mythological characters put together, there is a reason why no one can point to how he looks, his birth or even his so-called disciples.....all we have are pseudo documents from unknown authors named after his disciples....and you think people should not ask questions?

This guy is dull, I have said when trying to be skeptical, learn to apply at least an atom of intelligence.

How am I supposed to tell you how Christ looks? You do think there are sophisticated painting edges at that time like we have today? or what kind of look are you expecting? Can you show me a picture of how someone looked as at the time of Jesus.

If you need an archaeological evidence, I have talked about the shroud of turin here.

In addition to the contemporary archaeologists, scholars, and historians, who confirm that Jesus Christ existed, there are also a number of ancient historians who have recorded excerpts and events from Jesus' life.

These guys are secular historians, and although they did not accept Jesus as the Son of God, they did acknowledge his life, death, and teaching.

You talk of Cornelius Tacitus - Governor of Asia,
Suetonius, and even the disciples of Jesus are a prove that Jesus existed, or you do not also believe the disciples existed? lol you will increase your confusion because even the Roman pagans that matryed them are proves

Also I don't know why you said the birth of Jesus is only documented in the bible, a non christian book called the quran documents the birth of Christ, the book of momon does, the grey message does, infact I can count.

My advise is don't try to lay baseless arguments when there are many proves against you. With all due respect, you just made yourself look dull here and am allergic to people like you, when you have a serious argument against something, you can call on my attention but for now I do have better things to attend to than your biased and deficiently baseless points.


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