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The Lineage Of Jesus Is From Mary Not Joseph by nnatom: 10:40pm On Jan 05, 2014 |
pls don't look at my english try and get the message. So many people have been misunderstanding and misinterpreting the immaculate conception. Due to thus fact, I'm writing this to prove the authenticity of the immaculate conception. In doing this, I will use God's promise to explain this. Since we all know that, King David is the man after God's heart and God made a promise to him. CHRONICLE 17:11-14 11 And it shall come to pass, when thy days be expired that thou must go to be with thy fathers, that I will raise up thy seed after thee, which shall be of thy sons; and I will establish his kingdom. 12 He shall build me an house, and I will stablish his throne for ever. 13 I will be his father, and he shall be my son: and I will not take my mercy away from him, as I took it from him that was before thee: 14 But I will settle him in mine house and in my kingdom for ever: and his throne shall be established for evermore. Accepting the above bible passage. therefor, Jesus should come from the lineage of David. Now to trace Jesus lineage back to David, we'll have to look at it from two point of views. 1) There is sexual relationship between Joseph and Mary. 2) There is no sexual relationship between Joseph and Mary. FROM THE 1st VIEW If there is any form of sexual relationship between Joseph and Mary. Therefore Jesus lineage is from Joseph. Now let's trace Joseph lineage to David. Joseph lineage was recorded in MATHEW 1:1-16 King James Version (KJV) The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham. 2 Abraham begat Isaac; and Isaac begat Jacob; and Jacob begat Judas and his brethren; 3 And Judas begat Phares and Zara of Thamar; and Phares begat Esrom; and Esrom begat Aram; 4 And Aram begat Aminadab; and Aminadab begat Naasson; and Naasson begat Salmon; 5 And Salmon begat Booz of Rachab; and Booz begat Obed of Ruth; and Obed begat Jesse; 6 And Jesse begat David the king; and David the king begat Solomon of her that had been the wife of Urias; 7 And Solomon begat Roboam; and Roboam begat Abia; and Abia begat Asa; 8 And Asa begat Josaphat; and Josaphat begat Joram; and Joram begat Ozias; 9 And Ozias begat Joatham; and Joatham begat Achaz; and Achaz begat Ezekias; 10 And Ezekias begat Manasses; and Manasses begat Amon; and Amon begat Josias; 11 And Josias begat Jechonias and his brethren, about the time they were carried away to Babylon: 12 And after they were brought to Babylon, Jechonias begat Salathiel; and Salathiel begat Zorobabel; 13 And Zorobabel begat Abiud; and Abiud begat Eliakim; and Eliakim begat Azor; 14 And Azor begat Sadoc; and Sadoc begat Achim; and Achim begat Eliud; 15 And Eliud begat Eleazar; and Eleazar begat Matthan; and Matthan begat Jacob; 16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ. In Matthew's record, there was an event in verse 11 which is also recorded in JERIMIAH 22:24-30. 24 As I live, saith the LORD, though Coniah the son of Jehoiakim king of Judah were the signet upon my right hand, yet would I pluck thee thence; 25 And I will give thee into the hand of them that seek thy life, and into the hand of them whose face thou fearest, even into the hand of Nebuchadrezzar king of Babylon, and into the hand of the Chaldeans. 26 And I will cast thee out, and thy mother that bare thee, into another country, where ye were not born; and there shall ye die. 27 But to the land whereunto they desire to return, thither shall they not return. 28 Is this man Coniah a despised broken idol? is he a vessel wherein is no pleasure? wherefore are they cast out, he and his seed, and are cast into a land which they know not? 29 O earth, earth, earth, hear the word of the LORD. 30 Thus saith the LORD, Write ye this man childless, a man that shall not prosper in his days: for no man of his seed shall prosper, sitting upon the throne of David, and ruling any more in Judah. Therefore, if Jesus as king who will sit on the throne of David is Joseph's son He will not be king and if Jesus will sit on throne of David. Then, the bible prophecies will be a big lie. Thus, this account shows that Joseph is not the biological father of Jesus but the stepfather. 2nd VIEW if there is no sexual relationship between Joseph and Mary, therefore, Jesus lineage is from Mary. Now let's trace Mary's lineage to David. Mary's father is Joakim( also called Eliakim or Heliakim by d Jews where Eli and Heli is interchanged for God). Also mary is also called the daughter of Heli by the Jews. Since Heli is the father of Mary,then, the lineage of Mary is recorded in LUKE 3:23-38 23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli, 24 Which was the son of Matthat, which was the son of Levi, which was the son of Melchi, which was the son of Janna, which was the son of Joseph, 25 Which was the son of Mattathias, which was the son of Amos, which was the son of Naum, which was the son of Esli, which was the son of Nagge, 26 Which was the son of Maath, which was the son of Mattathias, which was the son of Semei, which was the son of Joseph, which was the son of Juda, 27 Which was the son of Joanna, which was the son of Rhesa, which was the son of Zorobabel, which was the son of Salathiel, which was the son of Neri, 28 Which was the son of Melchi, which was the son of Addi, which was the son of Cosam, which was the son of Elmodam, which was the son of Er, 29 Which was the son of Jose, which was the son of Eliezer, which was the son of Jorim, which was the son of Matthat, which was the son of Levi, 30 Which was the son of Simeon, which was the son of Juda, which was the son of Joseph, which was the son of Jonan, which was the son of Eliakim, 31 Which was the son of Melea, which was the son of Menan, which was the son of Mattatha, which was the son of Nathan, which was the son of David, 32 Which was the son of Jesse, which was the son of Obed, which was the son of Booz, which was the son of Salmon, which was the son of Naasson, 33 Which was the son of Aminadab, which was the son of Aram, which was the son of Esrom, which was the son of Phares, which was the son of Juda, 34 Which was the son of Jacob, which was the son of Isaac, which was the son of Abraham, which was the son of Thara, which was the son of Nachor, 35 Which was the son of Saruch, which was the son of Ragau, which was the son of Phalec, which was the son of Heber, which was the son of Sala, 36 Which was the son of Cainan, which was the son of Arphaxad, which was the son of Sem, which was the son of Noe, which was the son of Lamech, 37 Which was the son of Mathusala, which was the son of Enoch, which was the son of Jared, which was the son of Maleleel, which was the son of Cainan, 38 Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God. I know people will say,it is written, Joseph son of Heli. But the question is can Joseph have two fathers,Jacob and Heli? NO. therfore,he is the son in-law of Heli. In conclusion, Jesus lineage is from Mary and the Immaculate conception is real. thank u. |
Re: The Lineage Of Jesus Is From Mary Not Joseph by sunkoye: 11:17pm On Jan 05, 2014 |
This dilemma was solved by the assertion that whereas Matthew’s genealogy of Jesus was traced through Joseph’s line, Luke’s genealogy of Jesus was through Mary’s lineage. In this way, Jesus could now be from the seed of David after the flesh through Luke’s genealogy. Likewise, establishing Mary's lineage to King David, Luke's genealogy ostensibly solves the problem of what to do with Romans 1:3 (Paul), and enables the Church to claim a physical link between Jesus and King David. |
Re: The Lineage Of Jesus Is From Mary Not Joseph by MEILYN(m): 12:16am On Jan 06, 2014 |
You just go copy and paste trash from all these catholic websites. tell us something new abeg. |
Re: The Lineage Of Jesus Is From Mary Not Joseph by nnatom: 5:53am On Jan 06, 2014 |
MEILYN: You just go copy and paste trash from all these catholic websites. tell us something new abeg. lol look at you who believe dat the immaculate conception is an Immaculate deception in the thread u created. I gat no comment for you. |
Re: The Lineage Of Jesus Is From Mary Not Joseph by SalC: 7:06am On Jan 06, 2014 |
Why do I see people mistake the Virgin birth for immaculate conception? Both are not thesame and this thread and that of Meilyn were actually talking about virgin birth not immaculate conception 1 Like |
Re: The Lineage Of Jesus Is From Mary Not Joseph by MEILYN(m): 8:16am On Jan 06, 2014 |
Sal C: Why do I see people mistake the Virgin birth for immaculate conception? Both are not thesame and this thread and that of Meilyn were actually talking about virgin birth not immaculate conceptionI know. They are different things entirely. |
Re: The Lineage Of Jesus Is From Mary Not Joseph by SalC: 8:31am On Jan 06, 2014 |
MEILYN: I know. They are different things entirely.Ok sire! |
Re: The Lineage Of Jesus Is From Mary Not Joseph by nnatom: 8:36am On Jan 06, 2014 |
Sal C: Why do I see people mistake the Virgin birth for immaculate conception? Both are not thesame and this thread and that of Meilyn were actually talking about virgin birth not immaculate conception thank you Sal c,now I know better. Anyway, I just want to make people like Meilyn get more insights to the fact that,Mary conceived Christ without any form of sexual relationship between Her and Joseph. |
Re: The Lineage Of Jesus Is From Mary Not Joseph by SalC: 10:58am On Jan 06, 2014 |
nnatom:You're always welcome bro |
Re: The Lineage Of Jesus Is From Mary Not Joseph by Nobody: 12:26pm On Jan 06, 2014 |
David and Mary lineage are from King David. . |
Re: The Lineage Of Jesus Is From Mary Not Joseph by MEILYN(m): 4:47pm On Jan 06, 2014 |
nnatom:i hear. |
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