ckkris: Obasanjo, an army engineer and Garrison Commander at Ibadan, like his colleague Victor Banjo, MAY have supported Biafra, at least initially, together with Gov Adebayo, and even Awolowo. That was the reason Banjo moved troops to Ore, and sent letter to Ibadan, by August 8. And Ogbemudia was with Banjo. But by August 12, Awo made a statement that he was supporting the Federal Govt, contradicting his previous pledge of NEUTRALITY. Civil War history will reveal many surprises.

ImperialYoruba:

You dont come here talking !may have!. Give facts!! Did Obasanjo and Awo support Biafra or not?

vedd: Nice job, beautiful presentation of historical facts. Ethnic setimental bigots should keep off.

khamas19: ....sorry oo but can someone please elucitdate on the issue that Adekunle wanted to off them Isama


why would he want to do that?

ckkris: Isama has explained it severally, that it could be battle fatigue. Battlefield is a place everyone must look out for him/herself constantly, 24/7. An ally could suddenly turn a rifle against a closest buddy. Its called WAR.

ckkris: Obasanjo, an army engineer and Garrison Commander at Ibadan, like his colleague Victor Banjo, MAY have supported Biafra, at least initially, together with Gov Adebayo, and even Awolowo. That was the reason Banjo moved troops to Ore, and sent letter to Ibadan, by August 8. And Ogbemudia was with Banjo. But by August 12, Awo made a statement that he was supporting the Federal Govt, contradicting his previous pledge of NEUTRALITY. Civil War history will reveal many surprises.

debetmx:

Obasanjo never supported biafra. For any reason Yoruba officers had been bypassed during the promotion promo by Aguiyi Ironsi for ibo and ibo speaking Officers. Victor Banjo had sent Wole Soyinka to Obasanjo to seek free passage to Lagos for a fee because there was no way the ill trained and equipped biafra forces could get to Lagos without being crushed but Obasanjo rejected the offer. It's totally condemnable that biafran propagandists, the cantankerous coward and even unborn ibos have accused Banjo of treachery. Victor Banjo at any point never supported secession which he showed in his speech to the Mid-West, words and deeds. Victor Banjo had stayed in the State House with ojukwu but moved out when the cantankerous coward declared secession. ojukwu probably chose Victor Banjo to lead the suicide expedition to Lagos so as to have him (Banjo) killed, which he finally succeeded by accusing of planning a coup. God bless Victor Banjo he took the bullet with his chest buffed out. That is an example of a man died for what he believed in.

Governor Adebayo Adeyinka was pro- Federal and never supported secession and war. Awolowo initially sympathized with the biafrans until the treacherous bastard tried to occupy our land using a Yoruba Officer.

King Tom:

My friend, I did not write this book to stir up ethnic sentiments. Vedd has already warned you to keep off.

debetmx:

Obasanjo never supported biafra.

ckkris: Obasanjo supported the NEUTRALITY of the Western Region, up to the first week of August 1967. True or false? Why is unwilling to speak about his roles during that period? Awolowo relied on Gov Adebayo, Obasanjo the Garrison Commander, and few others, for Military Advice. Let Obasanjo publish the letters in his possession. Things will become very clear to all. Isama has mentioned Obasanjo, why doesn't he respond?

debetmx:

I still repeat Obasanjo never supported biafra. Also Adebayo never supported secession. I read it somewhere that when Awolowo came back from Enugu as head of the team who went to reconcile and conciliate with ojukwu, he approached senior Yoruba Officers about the possibility of Western Region seceding too and they asked him if he had the troops and weapons to do. Awolowo never raised the issue again. I guess it was Maj. Gen. Oluleye.

Obasanjo wrote a letter to GE, he has not responded.

T9ksy:

I believe what ckkris is saying is that Awolowo, Obj and the yorubas were NEUTRAL in the war at the onset and why then

didn't they maintain this neutrality whilst the ibos fight it out with their real enemies, the northerners, on yoruba soil? Why didn't Obasanjo

provide a free passage to Banjo and his biafran troops to Lagos, as part of his indifference to the war between the two former allies?


Am i right, ckkris?

debetmx:

Obasanjo never supported biafra. For any reason Yoruba officers had been bypassed during the promotion promo by Aguiyi Ironsi for ibo and ibo speaking Officers. Victor Banjo had sent Wole Soyinka to Obasanjo to seek free passage to Lagos for a fee because there was no way the ill trained and equipped biafra forces could get to Lagos without being crushed but Obasanjo rejected the offer. It's totally condemnable that biafran propagandists, the cantankerous coward and even unborn ibos have accused Banjo of treachery. Victor Banjo at any point never supported secession which he showed in his speech to the Mid-West, words and deeds. Victor Banjo had stayed in the State House with ojukwu but moved out when the cantankerous coward declared secession. ojukwu probably chose Victor Banjo to lead the suicide expedition to Lagos so as to have him (Banjo) killed, which he finally succeeded by accusing of planning a coup. God bless Victor Banjo he took the bullet with his chest buffed out. That is an example of a man died for what he believed in.

Governor Adebayo Adeyinka was pro- Federal and never supported secession and war. Awolowo initially sympathized with the biafrans until the treacherous bastard tried to occupy our land using a Yoruba Officer.

debetmx:

I still repeat Obasanjo never supported biafra. Also Adebayo never supported secession. I read it somewhere that when Awolowo came back from Enugu as head of the team who went to reconcile and conciliate with ojukwu, he approached senior Yoruba Officers about the possibility of Western Region seceding too and they asked him if he had the troops and weapons to do. Awolowo never raised the issue again. I guess it was Maj. Gen. Oluleye.

debetmx:

I only tried to put the records straight about Victor Banjo and if I overstepped my limits, I tender my unreserved apologies.

It just sucks when a group of people refer derogatorily to some persons just because they come from a particular tribe irrespective of what they did for them.

ckkris: The Civil War history of the United States is sold on the streets of Nigeria. Is it not necessary, that decision makers during the Nigerian Civil War, DECLASSIFY letters and other documents that can help people to STUDY those events? General Isama has written about field decisions. The speculations on who did what can be resolved if others respond to Isama's claims, that are mostly supported by General Akinrinade. If Ogbemudia has given any version, I haven't seen it. They will all be helpful.

Bash92: @ckkris
Am sorry if i sound disrespectful, but let us use our common sense here. You expect the Yoruba's to give the Biafran army a free passage to Lagos,so that they can turn there land to a battle feed?
What of the number of Yoruba's that will die during the battle in Lagos, in which Yoruba may gain nothing but incur severe damage.
Why cant they attack from the north, who they are in war with?

debetmx:

I know Ogbemudia has written a book about the civil war.

T9ksy:

I believe what ckkris is saying is that Awolowo, Obj and the yorubas were NEUTRAL in the war at the onset and why then

didn't they maintain this neutrality whilst the ibos fight it out with their real enemies, the northerners, on yoruba soil? Why didn't Obasanjo

provide a free passage to Banjo and his biafran troops to Lagos, as part of his indifference to the war between the two former allies?


Am i right, ckkris?

Sloan:

Wait, did you mean to write that or it dropped out from your head while you were subconscious? Why do you people not see common sense and use it prudently? So, you mean the Yorubas should give you free passage through their land? Why did you not give free passage to all the minorities to keep their land and people away from biafra? No, you had to grab those lands and force their people to become biafra soldiers but you are begging a bigger power to close their eyes so you can go through their lands? The height of irresponsible stupi.dity! What is free in war? Did Ojukwu not have that planned and figured out before he declared secession and brought war? Oh, and you trying to gain access to our land because you are interested in attacking the Northerners but you first come West? If it is not madness, then it means you and your ilk have no grey matter upstairs! If you want to fight the northerners, then go directly to the north; not miss your way to another man's land because that is why you were handed your ass on a blood stained platter! Ibos should stay away from Yorubaland, YOU ARE NO LONGER WELCOME IN OUR LAND simple and I don't care what you or anyone thinks about my position!

ckkris: Good question. Include Prof Oluwasanmi, then VC Unibadan. Major General James Olutoye provided some insights in his own bio.

Sloan:

Wait, did you mean to write that or it dropped out from your head while you were subconscious? Why do you people not see common sense and use it prudently? So, you mean the Yorubas should give you free passage through their land? Why did you not give free passage to all the minorities to keep their land and people away from biafra? No, you had to grab those lands and force their people to become biafra soldiers but you are begging a bigger power to close their eyes so you can go through their lands? The height of irresponsible stupi.dity! What is free in war? Did Ojukwu not have that planned and figured out before he declared secession and brought war? Oh, and you trying to gain access to our land because you are interested in attacking the Northerners but you first come West? If it is not madness, then it means you and your ilk have no grey matter upstairs! If you want to fight the northerners, then go directly to the north; not miss your way to another man's land because that is why you were handed your ass on a blood stained platter! Ibos should stay away from Yorubaland, YOU ARE NO LONGER WELCOME IN OUR LAND simple and I don't care what you or anyone thinks about my position!

King Tom:

Please Ladies and Gentlemen, I have stated earlier that this post was not meant to stir up ethnic tensions. Having read the past post-civil war comments and witnessed harsh words that were traded. I have decided to do what I call damage control. Therefore, Sloan I urge you to toe the path of Debetmx and tender an apology. This is meant to be a panel of interesting debates, not a mini war theatre where insults are hurled from one to the other.

Sloan:

Guy, I spoke my mind (and no doubt a lot of others) BUT I stand down on your very gracious appeal.