Its sad how most southern contributers on nairaland have come to symbolise the north as everything bad. A southerner is married and no issues,oh lets blame the north,obasanjo steals money,lets blame the north,nddc chairman burns 270million in a cementary,lets blame the north,ibori steals money lets blame the north,neap takes light,letsa blame the north,anenih doesn’t fix benin-ore road,oh lets blame the north,a southerner arrested for drug peddling,lets blame the north,HABA!

I’ll would like to look at some of these issues

Asari dokubo (of all people) stands up to call people parasites! How? Asari as I know is the epitome of laziness and the new symbol of any man who at 40yrs is stilling living with his parents and collects weekly allowance or how else can you explain who stands on a piece of land and takes up arms because oil is found there(which he knows nothing about its formation or did Asari plant oil in the delta?).how can he be calling some one who actually farms or some one who is rearing cattle (even if he is a herdsman he is actually working) a parasite? Will any sane person call a man who is toiling the soil for food lazy and then say the one who stands and says “aah theres oil in my land” hardworking? For me this is a more or less the case of a lazy brat waiting for inheritance money period! The people of texas and Norway regardless of the abundance of oil in their land have found better and useful things to do with their lives. There is oil in your land so what? The land is polluted so what? Is it more polluted than Hiroshima? Should the people of Hiroshima resign themselves to faith? Haba Asari do something meaningful with your hands and lets see if anyone will collect it from you. A state like delta is collecting twice the allocation the whole of north east is collecting and yet they cant develop a population of 2million! Aint that a shame? So without oil they cannot develop abi? If so thy are worst than the northerners they so much hate!

The north will suffer with out the south. Anyone who nsays that is an ignorant fool who needs a brain check! Go to federal statistics office and check the records. The north produces only 8% of its estimated food capacity,the south on the other hand gets about 87% of its food needs from the north. Now tell me if Nigeria should split wouldn’t the south be importing food from the north? If yes,do you think the tuber of yam you buy at say 250naira will still be sold at that amount? The answer is no,oil money will be used to buy food(hope you guys read about the world food crisis) more like iraq,and guess who will be the beneficiary! Nigeria nay the north has the capacity to feed the whole of Africa and much more. Necessity is the mother of inventions,take away oil and you will see food!. And talking about parasite,you get 87% of your food needs from someone you are calling a parasite.funny.

The north is an arid land. Yes sokoto,kano,jigawa e,t,c but there is also benue,taraba,kogi,nasarawa,plateau,southern gombe,southern adamawa,kwara,bauchi,niger and southern kaduna, are these areas also arid? And has it occurred to the southerners that these areas joined together are bigger than the whole south in terms of landmass? As for those comparing the north with chad and niger these countries are completely arid unlike the north.

The north contributes nothing to VAT because of sharia and alcohol blah blah blah. Lets be a bit objective here. Using statistics,the people of benue,southern kaduna and plateau (jos) consume alcohol more than any part of the country yet some one will say because of sharie ban on alcohol the north contributes nothing to VAT. It is a well known fact that the hausa stock are amongst the worlds biggest smokers yet they don’t contribute to VAT abi? Recharge cards,fuel e,t,c is only sold in the south abi? Come to think of it dangote is the biggest employer of labour asides government yet the north contributes nothing abi? HABA!

Nigeria”s bad image! Aah aah what has this got to do with the north?if anyone looks down on you because of the green passport the reason is quite simple,southern prostitution, southern visa racketeering, southern drug peddling, southern yahoo(which is now glorified in their music), southern 419, southern forgery, and southern fellows who because of low self esteem leave their country in droves to become second class citizens in another men’s country! If things are so bad in the country why not stick around and contribute your own positive part? If Americans or the Japanese had left their countries in droves like that to become fishermen in others country will their country be what it is today?

You people should hold your peace and leave the north alone! If an individual does something hold the individual responsible and leave the north alone!
Your governors are there,if you are so good develop at your own pace instead of looking northwards to apportion blame atleast that’s what Fashola is doing.
Remove the log in your eyes before you struggle with the toothpick in another mans eye!

All tribes should try to stop bashing each other with such intensity as if their own tribe is a perfect one.

Pipe dream, I know, but really, this tribal bashing doesnt show maturity at all.


Asari is even an Alhaji. I'm surprised he's castigating the north.

@poster
a huge applause to u. situation well analysed.

@ DRANOEL

Good thinking  

@truly-opal

thank you very much,

we cant as a men keep complaining that mummy has not fed us and so therefore we will not eat

As someone from the Middle-belt,if this bashing will make the North and possibly the Middle Belt to wake up then let it be.A sitiuation where pethe Oligarchy in the north and MiddleBelt hide behind Religion and Tradition respectively to  enslave their citizens must stop. Let this be a wake up call for people in the North and Middle Belt to empower themselves Educationally and economically rather than just being content with what comes from the Federal coffersand generally stop being ambitionless.Start developing agro-based industries and Solid Minerals so as to develop themselves and also help diversify this Monoculture Economy.enough with the use of Religion ang tradition to blindfold their followers.Enough with the blind followership.Enough with the senseless slaughter of our southern brothers and christians in the North under the  guise of Religion.Let the structure of the country be re-organized to meet the aspirations of all nigerians, so that cabal that benefits from this present arrangement does not see any oppurtunity to use divide and rule tactics.then we will have acountry that we can be proud of.

Northern bashing by south, southern bashing by north- its this bashing of regions by other regions, that people focus on instead of finding ways to improve their lives.

Dont know why Africans find it so hard to look beyond their ingrained prejudices. Or at least learn how to get along and use your excess misplaced energy for progress instead of regress.

sheesh.

I for one support the peacful seperation of the northern and southern belt of the country. Lets see how the north will deal with being completely cut of from the sea region in terms of importation, oil revenues and survival.

Ifd al lthe oil revnues were diverted to the actual  states that actually contribute to its production I don't see how the south will not have enough income to buy the food supply it needs and have enough reserve to import and practise technology based farming systems akeen to the vegetation of the south.

Frankly speaking I don't see any usefulness the north offers the southern part of Nigeria in terms of ingenuity,innovation, economic activity other that food.

morpheus24:

I for one support the peacful seperation of the northern and southern belt of the country. Lets see how the north will deal with being completely cut of from the sea region in terms of importation, oil revenues and survival.

Ifd al lthe oil revnues were diverted to the actual  states that actually contribute to its production I don't see how the south will not have enough income to buy the food supply it needs and have enough reserve to import and practise technology based farming systems akeen to the vegetation of the south.

Frankly speaking I don't see any usefulness the north offers the southern part of Nigeria in terms of ingenuity,innovation, economic activity other that food.

stop dreaming.

If the north divides from the south, what prevents the north from invading the south anyway, if push comes to shove?

They'll have the full support of the middle east and the tacit support of the western world who may provide vocal encouragement to both sides so they ( the west) will gain regardless who wins.

or do you think Europeans wont do business with the north out of love for the south?

tpia:

stop dreaming.

If the north divides from the south, what prevents the north from invading the south anyway, if push comes to shove?

They'll have the full support of the middle east and the tacit support of the western world who may provide vocal encouragement to both sides so they ( the west) will gain regardless who wins.

or do you think Europeans wont do business with the north out of love for the south?

Gone are the days of the situation that took place during the Nigerian/Biafran war in as far as allies are concerned. We are dealing with the threat of terrrorism, islamic fundamentalism, religious persecution and so on. i dulb the West willb e as forth coming as in the past in supporting the north as was imperative in the past due to the cold war syndrome.

Maybe support from the middle east but not in as far as invading a country that is seeking independence from its neighbours on religious and ethnic grounds. i would love to live side by side with the northernes as many of y youth years were speknt there but in my adulthood have come to realise that our destinies are taking a very divergent path. One inclined to western values of democracy, freedom of thought and progress and the other stuck in the past with authocractic like figures who wish to leave the people uneducated and under control.

morpheus24:

Lets see how the north will deal with being completely cut of from the sea region in terms of importation, oil revenues and survival.

44 countries of the world are without direct access to the sea and therefore shipping trade. Of those countries two are described as double landlocked because they are surrounded by countries that are also landlocked. They are: Liechtenstein and Uzbekistan. morpheus24 you may tend to ask your self how come many of these countries are doing just fine, and at the same countries with long costal areas are worse off.

Afghanistan  Andorra  Armenia  Austria  Azerbaijan  Belarus  Bhutan  Bolivia  Botswana  Burkina Faso
Burundi  Central African Republic  Chad  Czech Republic  Ethiopia  Hungary  Kazakhstan  Kyrgyzstan
Laos  Lesotho  Liechtenstein  Luxembourg  Macedonia  Malawi  Mali  Moldova  Mongolia
Nepal  Niger  Paraguay  Rwanda  San Marino  Serbia  Slovakia  Swaziland  Switzerland  Tajikistan
Turkmenistan  Uganda  Uzbekistan  Vatican City  West Bank  Zambia  Zimbabwe

tpia:

They'll have the full support of the middle east and the tacit support

Why the sub division (middlebelt) when we are dealing with two regions.

morpheus24:

Frankly speaking I don't see any usefulness the north offers the southern part of Nigeria in terms of ingenuity,innovation, economic activity other that food.

When all your ingenuity and innovations are geared towards the commission of crimes such as 419, fraud & fake & substandard products. Unlike the Western world and Far East that has used their human ingenuity for socio-economic development.

@tpia,

tpia:

stop dreaming.

If the north divides from the south, what prevents the north from invading the south anyway, if push comes to shove?

This line of reasoning (which is becoming the norm on this forum whenever issues relating to North-South divide comes up) is most untrue, unfortunate and will never happen in the real world. Even Russia, with all her gra gra is pulling out big time from Georgia as we speak.  You don't just go attacking another country (especially an oil rich country) without meeting some stringent criteria, which under normal conditions must be ratified by the UN.

Which push will come to shove if the South separates from the North? And what makes you think the South, especially the South-South will not do all in her power to stop any external agression from some nomadic herdsmen in the North?

Truth is that a lot of things will prevent the North from attacking the South if the South separates from Nigeria. One of them is the fact that the North will then be powerless to attack the South.

ono:

Truth is that a lot of things will prevent the North from attacking the South if the South separates from Nigeria. One of them is the fact that the North will then be powerless to attack the South.

The North will not attack the south in case of any succession. The attack would come within. The South South will demand succession from the East & West and when that happens it will be a free for all fight between the various ethnic groups in the Niger Delta.
What will the North be doing? Your guess is as good as mine.

MC Usman:

44 countries of the world are without direct access to the sea and therefore shipping trade. Of those countries two are described as double landlocked because they are surrounded by countries that are also landlocked. They are: Liechtenstein and Uzbekistan. morpheus24 you may tend to ask your self how come many of these countries are doing just fine, and at the same countries with long costal areas are worse off.

Afghanistan  Andorra  Armenia  Austria  Azerbaijan  Belarus  Bhutan  Bolivia  Botswana  Burkina Faso
Burundi  Central African Republic  Chad  Czech Republic  Ethiopia  Hungary  Kazakhstan  Kyrgyzstan
Laos  Lesotho  Liechtenstein  Luxembourg  Macedonia  Malawi  Mali  Moldova  Mongolia
Nepal  Niger  Paraguay  Rwanda  San Marino  Serbia  Slovakia  Swaziland  Switzerland  Tajikistan
Turkmenistan  Uganda  Uzbekistan  Vatican City  West Bank  Zambia  Zimbabwe

Why the sub division (middlebelt) when we are dealing with two regions.



When all your ingenuity and innovations are geared towards the commission of crimes such as 419, fraud & fake & substandard products. Unlike the Western world and Far East that has used their human ingenuity for socio-economic development.

At least you admit the south has more ingenuity than the North which is paramount to the succes of any nation. I am ready to leave the north with all your food and trade that in for the chance to succeed as a nation with self determination.

Lets compare apples with apples and oranges with oranges. The history of the countries you are talking about cannot be compared to the situation in Nigeria otherwise go ask the Ethiopians why they are so pissed off at the Eritreans and how that regions break away has affected them economically.

@ mcUsman: I said Middle east, not Middle Belt.

@ morpheus and ono: you need to follow the world economy before assuming things will continue the way they are ad infinitum.  We are in the age of globalization, so thinking Nigeria is at the center of the universe, is a big error. If the global economy crashes, then some countries will no longer abide by the current rules. Thats why in western countries, anytime they start feeling pinched financially, they start lashing out at immigrants and demanding they go back home.

Looking at Congo and the Sudan, which factions are winning and which factions are losing? Trying to match yourselves man for man by doing numerical counts like kindergarten kids, is childish. War is much more complicated than all that.

This isnt about secession. Its about regions doing what they feel needs to be done in order to survive ( or get richer).

When you all are shouting about the north being cattle rearers and poverty stricken, it doesnt take a rocket scientist to focus on the fact that if your claims are indeed true, then it may be a better move to simply invade your more prosperous neighbors to the south. As was done before.

Not to mention the fact that its these same northerners you depend on for cattle when performing social functions and for elevated social status in your local community. No be them dey supply the cows una dey take do burial? Who in the south can can host a "befitting" burial of his relation using only goats? You people need to think, for real. You depend on the north in more ways than you want to admit.

And like I said, anyone thinking Europeans will make tribalism a personal do or die thing, is fooling themselves. In case you're counting on European support.  Mercenaries are known to switch sides.

morpheus24:

At least you admit the south has more ingenuity than the North

Criminal ingenuity

Let's face it.The north is to Nigeria what Africa is to the rest of the world.While runnin several paces the south wld hav to stop & retrogress several steps bakwards to allow the north catch up.this has rilly stunted the growth of this country.before anybody accuses me of being discriminatory pls read
[url=http://north's vicious circle of poverty]north's vicious circle of poverty[/url] or [url=http://kano a city of beggars]kano a city of beggars[/url]

Futhermore,taq a look at Soludo's/CBN findings which put the northern region in the stone age of human development.Taq oil out of the equation,the north can still not do without the south on so many grounds.

tpia:

@ mcUsman: I said Middle east, not Middle Belt.

@ morpheus and ono: you need to follow the world economy before assuming things will continue the way they are ad infinitum.  We are in the age of globalization, so thinking Nigeria is at the center of the universe, is a big error. If the global economy crashes, then some countries will no longer abide by the current rules. Thats why in western countries, anytime they start feeling pinched financially, they start lashing out at immigrants and demanding they go back home.

Looking at Congo and the Sudan, which factions are winning and which factions are losing? Trying to match yourselves man for man by doing numerical counts like kindergarten kids, is childish. War is much more complicated than all that.

This isnt about secession. Its about regions doing what they feel needs to be done in order to survive ( or get richer).

When you all are shouting about the north being cattle rearers and poverty stricken, it doesnt take a rocket scientist to focus on the fact that if your claims are indeed true, then it may be a better move to simply invade your more prosperous neighbors to the south. As was done before.

Not to mention the fact that its these same northerners you depend on for cattle when performing social functions and for elevated social status in your local community. No be them dey supply the cows una dey take do burial? Who in the south can can host a "befitting" burial of his relation using only goats? You people need to think, for real. You depend on the north in more ways than you want to admit.

And like I said, anyone thinking Europeans will make tribalism a personal do or die thing, is fooling themselves. In case you're counting on European support.  Mercenaries are known to switch sides.

Marginalizing people or regions in a country is a dangerous combination in a country as diverse as Nigeria. If we are to follow the trends of globalization in terms of how the world is moving economically then it is in the best interest of the south south to seperate from the north. I am under no assumption that all they do there is rear cattle. Advocating some sort of seperation does not mean we cannot trade with the Northeners when it comes to these commodities you speak off. I mean really is using a cow versus a goat something of high importance in determining if a country should together.

The countries that broke away from the soviet union did so for a reason( the world was going capitalist and democratic) otherwise I wonder why they didn't choose to stick with Union seeing that it was advantageous to them in terms of size and technological know how.

I am not blaming the north for anything, only that if they choose to self determine themselves with sharia courts, islamic fundamentalist and systematic authocratic rule. I don't want a piece of it nor their cows, milk or groundnut. We'll learn to live without it.

As someone from the Middle-belt,if this bashing will make the North and possibly the Middle Belt to wake up then let it be.A sitiuation where pethe Oligarchy in the north and MiddleBelt hide behind Religion and Tradition respectively to enslave their citizens must stop. Let this be a wake up call for people in the North and Middle Belt to empower themselves Educationally and economically rather than just being content with what comes from the Federal coffersand generally stop being ambitionless.Start developing agro-based industries and Solid Minerals so as to develop themselves and also help diversify this Monoculture Economy.enough with the use of Religion ang tradition to blindfold their followers.Enough with the blind followership.Enough with the senseless slaughter of our southern brothers and christians in the North under the guise of Religion.Let the structure of the country be re-organized to meet the aspirations of all nigerians, so that cabal that benefits from this present arrangement does not see any oppurtunity to use divide and rule tactics.then we will have acountry that we can be proud of

.


Attaboy!!!!, Good point,

44 countries of the world are without direct access to the sea and therefore shipping trade. Of those countries two are described as double landlocked because they are surrounded by countries that are also landlocked. They are: Liechtenstein and Uzbekistan. morpheus24 you may tend to ask your self how come many of these countries are doing just fine, and at the same countries with long costal areas are worse off.

Afghanistan Andorra Armenia Austria Azerbaijan Belarus Bhutan Bolivia Botswana Burkina Faso
Burundi Central African Republic Chad Czech Republic Ethiopia Hungary Kazakhstan Kyrgyzstan
Laos Lesotho Liechtenstein Luxembourg Macedonia Malawi Mali Moldova Mongolia
Nepal Niger Paraguay Rwanda San Marino Serbia Slovakia Swaziland Switzerland Tajikistan
Turkmenistan Uganda Uzbekistan Vatican City West Bank Zambia Zimbabwe

How many of the countries listed above are fairing well except the Vatican that is a pseudo country?

MC Usman:

Criminal ingenuity

Don't forget one of the greatest mathematicians in the world today, oh yeah the highest percentage of educated Africans, highest form of civilized nigerians who are not prone to brainwashing. polio scare or conspiracy to wipe northeners out with HIV.

Admit it man the north has nothing to offer the south. NOTHING!!!!

NARTO wants North to acquire Chevron 

  Written by Yunus Abdulhamid, on 18-08-2008 01:07
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There is a growing support    for the acquisition of    Chevron Oil Nigeria Plc by any company from the Northern extraction following plans by owners of the foreign oil firm to relinquish their holdings.

Three out of the six oil major companies in the country, namely: Conoil, African Petroleum and Oando, are owned by companies from one geopolitical zone

Recently, a Northern group had launched a campaign in support of a company from the North to express desire to acquire the major oil conglomerate.

It even took the campaign to the presidency to assist any company from the geopolitical zone that has managerial, technical and financial capacity to acquire the oil giant.

The group’s insistence on a company from the North was hinged on the fact that the three out of the six oil major companies in the country, namely: Conoil, African Petroleum and Oando, are owned by companies from one geopolitical zone.

The national Operations Coordinator of the National Association of Road Transport Owners (NARTO), Alhaji Lawan Isa threw his weight behind the plan.

According to him, it is a thing of pride to the region, urging all well meaning individuals to support and encourage the move as it has tremendous benefits.

Speaking to Daily Trust weekend Isa appealed to the presidency, members of NARTO and other stakeholders to support the bid. He also urged Northern business men to rise up to the challenge to invest in oil and gas business as the world’s attention is still very focused on the sector beside establishing industries that would speed up development of the vast region.[b]

“The North is still backward, and we have to change the situation for the better. The time of hiding wealth or money in the house is over. It is now time to invest such wealth in key sector of the economy for the betterment of all,” he said.[/b]He said at least each region should have owned a major oil company, saying the South West alone owned three out of the six major oil companies in the country.

The NARTO boss said more than 80% of the country’s fuel transportation vehicles were owned by business men from the North and it was only fair for the North to have one of the major oil firms.

Isa also added that the south east ought to have one to balance the ‘equation’.

He said every region has capable companies that could buy any major oil company that plans to relinquish their holdings in it.

This was written by a northerner not me.Anybody claiming the north can do well without the south is only living in a fools' paradise.

You left your other great exploits

The greatest Armed Robber (Shina Rambo)
The crying General (Oladipo Diya)
The greatest Indian hemp smoker (Fela sadly he died of HIV)
The most embarrassing incest president ( :-Xbasanjo)

So much for ,  

@poster, the last segment of your first post is exactly what you are accusing the Southerners of doing. You quickly jump to the defence of the North on all allegations levy against them by the Southerners. If, according to you and some other analyst on this forum and other places, the North can survive without the south and they are not parasites _{(because that's what they are to me. I'm also getting used to being labelled a fraudster)}, let them move away and keep their food and let the south keep whatever they have to survive.

Please stop talking about cows, sheep, goats, fowls coming from the North. Rice consumed in Nigeria today are not from the North. Handsets, Jeep, cars, most of our clothes_okirika and many other important commodities are not from the North and we've been having them in abundance _{only that money to buy sometimes could be scarce}

MC Usman:

You left your other great exploits

The greatest Armed Robber (Shina Rambo)
The crying General (Oladipo Diya)
The greatest Indian hemp smoker (Fela sadly he died of HIV)
The most embarrassing incest president ( :-Xbasanjo)

So much for ,  

And the greatest criminals, looters, murderers and brutal dictators that ever lived

Sanni Abacha
Ibrahim Babangida
Murtala Mohammed
Suku buku Dimka

All of them all illiterates with the brain of teenagers.

I don't know why we are even arguing here. If we are the ones causing problem in naija then go ahead and form your Islamic republic of nigeria and we'll be the peoples democratic republic of Nigeria so your dictators can rule you and show you the way to heaven. Oloshi!!!

morpheus24:

Oloshi!!!

Dan buro uba

morpheus24:

And the greatest criminals, looters, murderers and brutal dictators that ever lived

Sanni Abacha
Ibrahim Babangida
Murtala Mohammed
Suku buku Dimka
All of them all illiterates with the brain of teenagers.

I don't know why we are even arguing here. If we are the ones causing problem in naija then go ahead and form your Islamic republic of nigeria and we'll be the peoples democratic republic of Nigeria so your dictators can rule you and show you the way to heaven. Oloshi!!!

God bless!!! It's amazing how someone in his right senses can just decide to leave these people out of bad lists in Nigeria. Those guys and other monsters are the worst things ever to happen to Nigeria.

MC Usman:

Dan buro uba

kachi buruku ubanka shegia!!!

morpheus24:

kachi buruku ubanka shegia!!!

Shege wa ya koya berebere Hausa

MC Usman:

Shege wa ya koya berebere Hausa

At least I know enough to understand you.

abdurrazaq:

@poster, the last segment of your first post is exactly what you are accusing the Southerners of doing. You quickly jump to the defence of the North on all allegations levy against them by the Southerners. If, according to you and some other analyst on this forum and other places, the North can survive without the south and they are not parasites _{(because that's what they are to me. I'm also getting used to being labelled a fraudster)}, let them move away and keep their food and let the south keep whatever they have to survive.

Please stop talking about cows, sheep, goats, fowls coming from the North. Rice consumed in Nigeria today are not from the North. Handsets, Jeep, cars, most of our clothes_okirika and many other important commodities are not from the North and we've been having them in abundance _{only that money to buy sometimes could be scarce}

it amuses me how the same Asari Dokubo tends to want an ijaw nation and you are here talking about souths survival,infact lets face it squarely on the six zones and then we will see who survives and who doesnt survive!
its a ahame you are talking about rice,so thats all you eat in your house abi? the recent body language from the north shows they no longer care about anyones ox.

talking about land lock,doesnt rivers benue and niger pour into the delta? and if the south refuses the dredging,cant it be done through river benue via the cameroun route?

how many of the solid minerals in this country are actually being tapped? and which region has it most?