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Re: South African President Mbeki Formally Resigns by doe82: 7:31pm On Sep 22, 2008
yemivictor:

Yar'adua is purportedly running the country on someone else's kidney & still won't quit!

I can't laugh jare!! grin grin grin

whoose kidney he uses shouldnt be an issue here but doing what is rigth for the country.we dont care if he has kidney or not as long as he leads us to a new path of sanity
Re: South African President Mbeki Formally Resigns by EmemJU(f): 8:08pm On Sep 22, 2008
RSA is way ahead of us whether we like it or 'yes', when i see things like this i pray and fast for my fatherland, when will we ever find such men in nigerian politics?
Re: South African President Mbeki Formally Resigns by Truequest(m): 9:37pm On Sep 22, 2008
[center]South Africa's ruling African National Congress (ANC) has chosen Kgalema Motlanthe as caretaker president[/center]


South Africa's ruling African National Congress (ANC) has chosen a caretaker president to replace Thabo Mbeki.

Sources within the party have named deputy leader Kgalema Motlanthe, an ally of party leader Jacob Zuma.

Mr Zuma said on Monday the decision would only be formally announced when parliament meets - on Thursday - to vote on the appointment.

Thabo Mbeki resigned on Sunday over claims of political interference in a corruption case against Mr Zuma.

He denies the allegations but said he was stepping down at the request of the ANC in the interests of party unity.

In his first comments on the case, Mr Zuma said it was one of the most difficult decisions in the ANC's history.

But Archbishop Desmond Tutu said he was "deeply disturbed" by Mr Mbeki's forced resignation, saying the interests of the ANC had been put before those of the nation.

"Our country deserves better. The way of retribution leads to a banana republic," he said.

Mr Zuma, however, promised a smooth transition.
Re: South African President Mbeki Formally Resigns by A40(m): 12:50am On Sep 23, 2008
yemivictor:

Yar'adua is purportedly running the country on someone else's kidney & still won't quit!

I can't laugh jare!! grin grin grin

You guys are diabolical grin cant stop laughing

@topic
Its very shocking he must be a white man disguised in black skin African leaders dont know when to quit tongue
Re: South African President Mbeki Formally Resigns by mojojojo(m): 3:24am On Sep 23, 2008
this will never happen in nigeria.  nigerians almost look indebted to our "theives leaders".

@joshjosh

Come on, we have had three presidents in Nigeria that have resigned.
Obasanjo (First coming)
Babangida
Abdulsalam
Re: South African President Mbeki Formally Resigns by luvli(f): 9:26am On Sep 23, 2008
Come on, we have had three presidents in Nigeria that have resigned.
Obasanjo (First coming)
Babangida
Abdulsalam
[quote][/quote]

u might as well tell me the pope is black.
Re: South African President Mbeki Formally Resigns by aceman(m): 9:32am On Sep 23, 2008
Will Zuma make a good president? His style resembles that of Adedibi
Re: South African President Mbeki Formally Resigns by faoni572(m): 9:41am On Sep 23, 2008
doe82:

whoose kidney he uses shouldnt be an issue here but doing what is rigth for the country.we don't care if he has kidney or not as long as he leads us to a new path of sanity

lol,  I can't stop laughing here cheesy shocked
Re: South African President Mbeki Formally Resigns by carmelily: 10:45am On Sep 23, 2008
An African President?? Resign??

Wake me up when this dream is over. He didn't try to start a senseless civil war? Doesn't he have a son to "take over"? or perhaps, he merely "stepped aside" grin grin grin
Re: South African President Mbeki Formally Resigns by Angelheart: 11:08am On Sep 23, 2008
I applaud my president for stepping down without any resistance. Says a lot about what kind of a leader he was. The same ZUma was asked to resign as a vice president a year ago but he resisted. Which led to his arse being fired. Nonetheless, good luck to him (Zuma).

My President, go and rest. You have done your bit and a lot for South Africa economically. Lets see what Zuma has to offer. Aluta Continua!!
Re: South African President Mbeki Formally Resigns by ochiaha1(m): 1:07pm On Sep 23, 2008
Its so sad to see a true leader and statesman like Thabo Mbeki resign from the position of South African President.

It goes to show that the South African are politically matured, they have had 14 years of continuos democratic rule (1994- present day) in their country.

Its not impossible that the above incident can happen in Nigeria in the near future as I believe that a country evolves politically, with time and political experience.

Lets hope that if Jacob Zuma , the African National Congress leader, later wins the planned election of mid-2009 and becomes South African President, that he does not go into the office with a gloating or vindictive attitude towards Mbeki and his supporters as this will portray him as being very small-minded and not large-hearted enough to be the President of South Africa. cool
Re: South African President Mbeki Formally Resigns by JUNIT1(m): 4:47pm On Sep 23, 2008
noone wants zuma as president in this country, he allergedly raped a girl, and he's stil involed in a long court case regarding this issue, that was one of the reasons mbeki quit.this is bad for SA
Re: South African President Mbeki Formally Resigns by yemivictor: 5:57pm On Sep 23, 2008
After all said & done, i personally believe the reason for Mbeki's resignation runs deeper than what's been handed out!
Re: South African President Mbeki Formally Resigns by ThisDumebi: 6:14pm On Sep 23, 2008
shocked angry sad embarassed This is Big Brother "Nigeria"!! Thabo Mbeki will you please report to Aso Rock!!

(Mbeki walks in and takes a seat)

Aso Rock: Is it true that you have resigned?

Thabo Mbeki: Well, I had to considering -

AR: Hold itttt!! Considering what Do you realise that this is Africa and nothing of such happens just like that? Dem do you? Please please please just find your way back to power because sooner very soon my people are going to use that against me to press for my own resignation!!

(TM leaves AR) If your people want you to resign why wont you? Maybe there is a grave reason for their yearning!! If you love your country, please grant their wishessss!!!
Re: South African President Mbeki Formally Resigns by Angelheart: 8:10pm On Sep 23, 2008
Ive been skipping from forum to forum and reading numerous Newspapers today. Mbheki's resignation is making headlines.  What's amazing however, is  the 'armchair' journalism that has been employed. Everybory is sceptical about the economic future in SA and how South Africa is going down due to black management. It then struck me that things are not as bad as they seem.  Even after the resignation of 11 ministers. Look at it this way:
When the ANC took over from the Afrikanders, we were told that this is the end of South Africa.  When Trevor Manuel (The minister of finance) took over from the then minister of finance (Chris Lebenberg), all the whities imigrated to Australia. When Tito Mbhoweni (Our Governor), took over from Chris Stalls, the people went tinto a frenzy and mostly moved to the UK. When Mandela announced that he will be stepping down, they saw it as the END! But was it? NO!! In essence, today is no different.

I'm still not happy with Zuma taking over however, South Africa will live on and will remain to be/have the strongest economy in Africa.

Aluta Continua!!We keep striving on!!
Re: South African President Mbeki Formally Resigns by carmelily: 9:10am On Sep 24, 2008
Angelheart:

South Africa will live on and will remain to be/have the strongest economy in Africa.

dream on. with all that xenophobia puhleeez
Re: South African President Mbeki Formally Resigns by Malila: 9:34am On Sep 24, 2008
One thing I don't understand is why should Mbeki resign before the election?
Why not stay till election is over, winner is declared and then hand over power smoothly?
Re: South African President Mbeki Formally Resigns by Angelheart: 10:59am On Sep 24, 2008
Carmelilly said: 'dream on. with all that xenophobia puhleeez'
I will waste my bandwidth by getting involved in a dialogue with you when you answer these questions:

What is xenophobia?
What is racism?
What effects does xenophobia and racism have on a countries'economy?
What is the difference between xenophobia and racism?
Is America not ONE of the racist countries in the world?
Who are the major investors in SA?? Can you name any African countries?
Is there Xenophobia in Nigeria and is the Naira doing well??
Re: South African President Mbeki Formally Resigns by Malila: 12:00pm On Sep 24, 2008
Angelheart:

Carmelilly said: 'dream on. with all that xenophobia puhleeez'
I will waste my bandwitch by getting involved in a dialogue with you when you answer these questions:

What is xenophobia?
What is racism?
What effects does xenophobia and racism have on a countries'economy?
What is the difference between xenophobia and racism?
Is America not ONE of the racist countries in the world?
Who are the major investors in SA?? Can you name any African countries?
Is there Xenophobia in Nigeria and is the Naira doing well??

Hello Angel,

Before I comment on Xenophobia I have one issue. Why is Mbeki resigning before the election of his successor? I hear there's pressure from ANC that he resigns and leave the country to interim government. But why has ANC chosen to pressurize him into resigning before elections?

And on Xenophobia, well I live in Tanzania and your ambassador here was put on a hot seat regarding killings of other Africans in South Africa. What he said was that these other Africans were seen as a threat to the well being of black South Africans. he cited one example of Somali traders who would set shops in black neighbourhoods and sell stuff for much cheaper that black South Africans operating nearby would do thus taking most of the customers. This made them angry and thus attacked the foreigner.

Well, if that's the way to go then I bet no South African would be allowed to set shop in any other African country. The Chinese might get massacred all over the world I guess.
Re: South African President Mbeki Formally Resigns by jemit(m): 4:54pm On Sep 24, 2008
i'm surprised that everyone is happy dat Thabo Mbeki has resigned

he has been a good president and a good leader, he has been loyal to south africa, africa and more importantly ANC. jacob zuma has used his influence and power to make this happen.

mbeki has very good intentions and is a great leader though some of his local policies have not worked out well. his administration has made the south african economy bouyant and his foreign policies are great.

unfortunately for him the south african masses dont like him, i guess because of his educational background and mayb his 'supposed' social class. they seem to prefer Zuma, who is more social and is a friend to everybody.

i hope this political instability in SA will not affect their hosting of the World cup2010, remember the western countries are looking for a way to get that right from africa.

i just wish mbeki well in his future endeavours and hope that Zuma or any next president will be a better president.

and definitely SA is a more democratic nation than nigeria, come-on, they were colonizes by the americans what do u expect.
Re: South African President Mbeki Formally Resigns by Malila: 5:15pm On Sep 24, 2008
jemit:

i'm surprised that everyone is happy that Thabo Mbeki has resigned

he has been a good president and a good leader, he has been loyal to south africa, africa and more importantly ANC. jacob zuma has used his influence and power to make this happen.

mbeki has very good intentions and is a great leader though some of his local policies have not worked out well. his administration has made the south african economy bouyant and his foreign policies are great.

unfortunately for him the south african masses don't like him, i guess because of his educational background and mayb his 'supposed' social class. they seem to prefer Zuma, who is more social and is a friend to everybody.

i hope this political instability in SA will not affect their hosting of the World cup2010, remember the western countries are looking for a way to get that right from africa.

i just wish mbeki well in his future endeavours and hope that Zuma or any next president will be a better president.

and definitely SA is a more democratic nation than nigeria, come-on, they were colonizes by the americans what do u expect.

Jemit,

It was found out that Mbeki is behind the charges against corruption and rape facing Zuma now. Mbeki was engineering this case to keep Zuma from contesting presidential post. ANC, being a reputable party it is, was not going to swallow this so Mbeki had to face the music.

Poor Mbeki. If he thinks Zuma is not presidential material he should perhaps have left him alone, or find other ways of making him look silly.
Re: South African President Mbeki Formally Resigns by skyy04(m): 5:37pm On Sep 24, 2008
President to resign? This will never happen in Nigeria! even if the so called president is impeached.

For the sake of embezzlement they will rather die on the throne than resign

This a lesson for all african rulers shocked grin
Re: South African President Mbeki Formally Resigns by Nobody: 6:13pm On Sep 24, 2008
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Re: South African President Mbeki Formally Resigns by blackspade(m): 6:50pm On Sep 24, 2008
I can't wait until Zuma takes office, South Africa needs a socialist/populist like him to drastically bring down their unemployment rate, and actually worry about the people. Mbeki has paid too much attention to private business investment, and basically ignored the HIV/AIDS epedemic, and really didn't pay enough attention to the people who needed attention the most. He did start a program to replace shantytowns by achieving a certain quota of replacement housing a year, but he hasn't brought in enough jobs, nor has he paid enough attention to education.

They have these "Black Empowerment" laws, but that mostly limits Black Africans to jobs like construction and such. I feel if Mbeki would have invested more into education, that would do much more for the Black South African group, because it will create a huge number of skilled workers, who could vastly replace the need for White workers. Just my 2cents. wink

ZUMA '09!
Re: South African President Mbeki Formally Resigns by mikesleek(m): 12:47am On Sep 25, 2008
thats the greatest surprise i got. well it just means that africa is moving from its depresion into light, who says we would not tke over the world?
Re: South African President Mbeki Formally Resigns by adconline(m): 4:28am On Sep 25, 2008
So this means that a few political jobbers could overthrow a democratically elected government. I think they overturned the will of the people by overthrowing Mbeki at a gun point. Another political experiment running amuck
Re: South African President Mbeki Formally Resigns by Mpele(m): 9:58am On Sep 25, 2008
Its good that Mbeki is going. The has been focusing too much on Africa with his Nepad and African Renaissance. What we needed was South African renaissance. He focused his energies on solving conflicts and in the process forgot about us. The foreign affairs minister was basically doing nothing.

But overall he was a good president. He will leave us with the 25th biggest economy in the world. His legacy will never be erased. He must not be blamed for the HIV/Aids rate as he never told people to go and sleep around.
Re: South African President Mbeki Formally Resigns by carmelily: 10:33am On Sep 25, 2008
Angelheart:

Carmelilly said: 'dream on. with all that xenophobia puhleeez'
I will waste my bandwidth by getting involved in a dialogue with you when you answer these questions:

why would i want to answer your questions when you already say it would be a waste of resources talking to me? am i so desperate to talk to you? please,comot for my face.

Malila:

And on Xenophobia, well I live in Tanzania and your ambassador here was put on a hot seat regarding killings of other Africans in South Africa. [b]What he said was that these other Africans were seen as a threat to the well being of black South Africans. [/b]he cited one example of Somali traders who would set shops in black neighbourhoods and sell stuff for much cheaper that black South Africans operating nearby would do thus taking most of the customers. This made them angry and thus attacked the foreigner.

Well, if that's the way to go then I bet no South African would be allowed to set shop in any other African country. The Chinese might get massacred all over the world I guess.

That's what a [b]south african ambassador [/b]had to say. yet they dream about grandour. laughable at best.
Re: South African President Mbeki Formally Resigns by Angelheart: 11:40am On Sep 25, 2008
Mpele:

Its good that Mbeki is going. The has been focusing too much on Africa with his Nepad and African Renaissance. What we needed was South African renaissance. He focused his energies on solving conflicts and in the process forgot about us. The foreign affairs minister was basically doing nothing.

But overall he was a good president. He will leave us with the 25th biggest economy in the world. His legacy will never be erased. He must not be blamed for the HIV/Aids rate as he never told people to go and sleep around.

For South Africa to be where it is economically, Mbheki had to focus on Africa and THEE so called African rennaisance. He had to leave the country to bring business home. Something that Zuma will not be able to do. Now that he is gone and we have a strong economy, Zuma and his camp must now work towards 'FIXING' south Africa. Mbheki has made it easy for them.

As for the HIV rates, we all know who is to blame!!
Re: South African President Mbeki Formally Resigns by Mpele(m): 1:19pm On Sep 25, 2008
For South Africa to be where it is economically, Mbheki had to focus on Africa and THEE so called African rennaisance. He had to leave the country to bring business home. Something that Zuma will not be able to do. Now that he is gone and we have a strong economy, Zuma and his camp must now work towards 'FIXING' south Africa. Mbheki has made it easy for them.

As for the HIV rates, we all know who is to blame!!

What makes you to say Zuma will not be able to bring business to South Africa. What is the basis of your argument. As for the HIV rate. No leader can be blamed for that, If you sleep around without using a condom, then you gonna be HIV positive, what does the president have to do with that. Black South Africans should control their hormones and stop bonking on railway lines and then after that blame the president.
Re: South African President Mbeki Formally Resigns by Angelheart: 1:47pm On Sep 25, 2008
Mpele:

What makes you to say Zuma will not be able to bring business to South Africa. What is the basis of your argument. As for the HIV rate. No leader can be blamed for that, If you sleep around without using a condom, then you going to be HIV positive, what does the president have to do with that. Black South Africans should control their hormones and stop bonking on railway lines and then after that blame the president.

**sigh**

Ok Mpele, put your reading skills into practice and stop criss crossing: Nobody SAID the president is to blame for the high HIV rates in SA. Re-visit my post. As for Zuma attracting foreign investment, it is written on the wall clearly. Firstly, he cannot even come up with a clear and a consice manifesto.Moreover, having his corruption dealings exposed to the global stage, who in their righful mind will have the convidence for dealing with money matters with Zuman. Hence the government begged Trevor Mauel to stay on.

Bonking on the railway story: It is out of context and I will leave it as that: Irrelevent!
Re: South African President Mbeki Formally Resigns by Angelheart: 3:06pm On Sep 25, 2008
Mpele, I found an interesting comment by you from another thread, You are criss crossing and you dontknow where you stand. Stop making conflicting statements.

Mpele:

Zuma is bad for South Africa, but at least there forces that are working behind the scene to stop him from becoming the president of SA. Some of us we are really going to miss Pres. Mbeki. At least the man didn't embarass his country like  Zuma is doing now.

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