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Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by Nobody: 6:19pm On Jul 13, 2014 |
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Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by Nobody: 6:20pm On Jul 13, 2014 |
freshdude2: Stop twisting my words, The daily-fvcking mail. Just STOP. |
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by Anacksunamun: 6:25pm On Jul 13, 2014 |
freshdude2: Don't be the clown who twists other people's arguments to make yourself sound smart. Perhaps, my earlier post is the slippery slope that made you into an idiiot. Ain't it funny how she made homosexuality acceptable on the basis of it's one's séxual preference and as long as it's consensual, there's nothing wrong in it; but once Coogar pointed out that incést if it's consensual and between two adults should not be condemned, as with polygamy (according to her logic), she steered the ship of the discourse to another direction trying make it seem, only her has the moral compass to determine which sexùal preference is worth engaging in? Utter bullocks!! No need debating this topic, the truth is there for any discerning mind to decipher. 2 Likes |
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by Anacksunamun: 6:31pm On Jul 13, 2014 |
njokusboy: . I read dat post like 10 times and I didn't see where he said that homosexxuality was a precursor for incest.... He was merely pointing out the fact dat in the long run, incest would become acceptable same way homesexxuality is now in western communities.....sometime ago, homosexxuality was forbidden, if homosexxuality which was forbidden, some time ago is as common as skating today in America, what stops incest from progressing likewise... They afterall follow the same mentality, its between adults, its consensual, a proof that "they were born dat way" could also be established/invented... Its dat simple... Hehehe.. In future bet me, we might not be alive to witness it, incést will be legalised. All it'd take is for one dimwit to champion the cause on the basis of fundamental human rights. After all, if bestiálity, homosexuality, etc., can be legalised, what's stops incést lovers from having their own? |
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by Nobody: 6:35pm On Jul 13, 2014 |
coogar: Yeeeeeeeshhhh! I said THE POPULATION. The intricacies of the US POPULATION are not the same as other WESTERN COUNTRIES. I asked you why if freedom = chaos, you're overlooking the western countries with negligible rates in these areas! You still haven't answered that -unsurprisingly. Then YOU brought CHINA into it for its population SIZE and asked why it had lower incarceration rates, to which I replied: "The fact is, Americans are locked up for crimes — from writing bad checks to using drugs — that would rarely produce prison sentences in other countries! And they are kept incarcerated far longer than prisoners in other nations which makes the incarceration rate HIGHER. Why are you being so willfully ignorant?? which obvious reasons? China's discipline! Do you anything about about China?? You're on a LOOP. |
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by Nobody: 6:43pm On Jul 13, 2014 |
njokusboy: . Okay, tell us what makes in'ce'st worse than homosexxuality... Also tell us, why u think in'ce'st cannot become acceptable over time considering the fact that homosexxuality was... I believe I answered the bolded directly to you and other so. numerous occasions. I've also been explaining my POV from the very beginning. In fact, I'm the only one here who has. Did you not see my posts? Can you tell me why you consider incest better than homosexuality?? |
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by Nobody: 6:43pm On Jul 13, 2014 |
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Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by coogar: 6:44pm On Jul 13, 2014 |
EnlightenedSoul: says the same flip-flopper that claimed freedom in the USA is fairly the same as that of the western europe. all of a sudden, the intricacies are different? oh my gosh - you are plumbing the depths of idiòcy - the depths jacques costeau wouldn't dare reach.
so the harsh punishment for any mistake is also the reason american teenage girls are promiscuous? it's the reason they can't keep it together? according to your logic, crime & punishment spiked the teenage pregnancy rate....... spërm flakes have occupied your cranial cavity.
no, i don't know anything about china. this is actually the first time i am hearing there's a country called china. what a twit!!! if china's disciplinary measure seems to be working, why don't western societies adopt their methods? that's the question you cannot answer - you keep jumping from one edge to another like a toad high on meth. |
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by Nobody: 6:56pm On Jul 13, 2014 |
EnlightenedSoul:. U said they were not the same, which is true... U have only stated ur preference for one over the other.... We are telling you they follow the same logic and if one could be legalised, why not the other... If u have any logical reason why in'ce'st cannot be legalised state them and if u have stated them before and I was so blind, I didn't see them... Quote them... |
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by Kslib(m): 6:59pm On Jul 13, 2014 |
Chai! Dis boy again and argument.. Dem swear for you? 1 Like |
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by Nobody: 7:00pm On Jul 13, 2014 |
njokusboy: . Okay, tell us what makes in'ce'st worse than homosexxuality... Also tell us, why u think in'ce'st cannot become acceptable over time considering the fact that homosexxuality was... . |
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by Anacksunamun: 7:01pm On Jul 13, 2014 |
freshdude2: Stop twisting my words, Sweety. LMAO!! A lawyer is already defending his client. You're a genius, it's truly a matter of time. |
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by Nobody: 7:01pm On Jul 13, 2014 |
coogar: My goodness! YES, the FREEDOMS are fairly the same. Jacques Costeau is proving to have more wayyy more intellectual capital than you could ever claim. so the harsh punishment for any mistake is also the reason american teenage girls are promiscuous? it's the reason they can't keep it together? according to your logic, crime & punishment spiked the teenage pregnancy rate....... WTF are you going on about now? Can you stick to facts instead of delivering your lame offside analogies? You can't pull something out from your asscrack and stick it an no, i don't know anything about china. this is actually the first time i am hearing there's a country called china. what a twit!!! Than why isn't it within your mental capacity to realize that you're comparing apples to oranges? if china's disciplinary measure seems to be working, why don't western societies adopt their methods? that's the question you cannot answer - you keep jumping from one edge to another like a toad high on meth. *Facepalm* The fvck makes you think the US would want to copy China?? It may just be that it really is the first time you're hearing about China. It may be the first time you're hearing about the US! Arrant nonsense. |
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by Nobody: 7:03pm On Jul 13, 2014 |
Anacksunamun:At this point, I don't know if this is her pattern of thought or just a deliberate desperate attempt at saving face. |
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by Nobody: 7:05pm On Jul 13, 2014 |
Kslib: Chai! Dis boy again and argument.. Dem swear for you?. Hahaha, my brother, I dey try understand some people reasoning... U know say pple different, we dey learn everyday..... |
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by coogar: 7:10pm On Jul 13, 2014 |
EnlightenedSoul: same freedom but there are different intricacies in the freedom? you are a mongolian idïot!
i am not having any intelligent discussion with you. this is coogar taking the shyte on a delivery chic from papa johns. crime & punishment - the reason american prisons are filled to the brim. so what's responsible for the promiscuity?
how is it apple & oranges? why are you such a disgrace to the citadel of learning you spawned from? can you boldly say the money invested in your education was well-spent? the question is simple enough - what is responsible for your promiscuity in western countries?
apart from the fact that america is their biggest debtor, there's a lot to copy from them even if we ignore the issues of what we are discussing - the ills of the western society. |
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by Nobody: 7:11pm On Jul 13, 2014 |
EnlightenedSoul:Well, it didn't happen then?! You need to eat ewa agoin. |
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by Anacksunamun: 7:14pm On Jul 13, 2014 |
freshdude2: At this point, I don't know if this is her pattern of thought or just a deliberate desperate attempt at saving face.You're still thinking? The embolden is all she's been doing all these while. Same way she accused POPULATION of being the reason for high crime rate and teenage pregnancies; Coogar showed her that India and China has twice America's population and still don't have the same crime rate as USA, and she did what she knows how to do best, FLIP-FLOPPING. |
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by Nobody: 7:15pm On Jul 13, 2014 |
freshdude2: Well, it didn't happen then?! You need to eat ewa agoin. Idk wth that is, but whatever. Tbh, I didn't even bother reading it. That's The Daily-freakin'-Mail. |
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by Anacksunamun: 7:17pm On Jul 13, 2014 |
freshdude2: Well, it didn't happen then?! You need to eat ewa agoin.If it's from Fox news, she'd have said "the Fox-fvcking news. JUST STOP." . Quit wasting your time, she'll never accept her wrongs. |
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by coogar: 7:17pm On Jul 13, 2014 |
Anacksunamun: You're still thinking? The embolden is all she's been doing all these while. Same way she accused POPULATION of being the reason for high crime rate and teenage pregnancies; Coogar showed her that India and China has twice America's population and still don't have the same crime rate as USA, and she did what she knows how to do best, FLIP-FLOPPING. yes now, the intricacies in the population size are different. she doesn't even know the teenage pregnancy chart was per 1,000 women. i have lost hope in her since yesterday & don't be surprised she's a graduate of one of those obscure schools in eastern nigeria......nigeria can't just stop producing half-baked twits who cannot discern their left hand from their right. |
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by Nobody: 7:24pm On Jul 13, 2014 |
njokusboy: . U said they were not the same, which is true... U have only stated ur preference for one over the other.... We are telling you they follow the same logic and if one could be legalised, why not the other... If u have any logical reason why in'ce'st cannot be legalised state them and if u have stated them before and I was so blind, I didn't see them... Quote them... Lol@preference. It's not a preference, it's the acceptance of one based on the current scientific research available, and common sense. That's what we'd call a baseless crutch argument. On what basis should one cause the other to be legalized? Incèst is against the law. Homosexuality never was. They're two completely different things. It's like saying, oh now look pedophilia will be legalized 'cuz of those homos. Please. So on what basis? |
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by Anacksunamun: 7:24pm On Jul 13, 2014 |
coogar:LOL. She always have the perfect dumb excuse whenever she's caught. I won't be caught dead discussing this issue with her. The evidences against her lame replies are astounding. Schooled in Nigeria? I doubt. From the few things I know about her, she grew up in the States/lived most of her life in the States (I might be wrong though, just guessing). |
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by coogar: 7:29pm On Jul 13, 2014 |
Anacksunamun: the tortuous knots of logic she's tied herself in the last 24 hours have been mammoth! instead of her to raise her hands up & admit she's clueless, she's using google to tell me teenage pregnancy & 2 million prison population is "containable".
she's a polytechnic graduate! one of those schools where paying in cash or in kind attract A grades faster than you can spell your name. |
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by Kslib(m): 7:29pm On Jul 13, 2014 |
njokusboy: . Hahaha, my brother, I dey try understand some people reasoning... U know say pple different, we dey learn everyday.....E good !! Anyway its nice to know that you are still very much consistent in the game.. |
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by Nobody: 7:38pm On Jul 13, 2014 |
Anacksunamun: If it's from Fox news, she'd have said "the Fox-fvcking news. JUST STOP." . Quit wasting your time, she'll never accept her wrongs. That's DAMN RIGHT actually. Fox isn't a credible news source. Same as the Daily Mail, and even WIKI. |
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by Nobody: 7:39pm On Jul 13, 2014 |
EnlightenedSoul:. Okay, state the current scientific research and make me see the common sense.... U seem to enjoy chasing rabbits, u wanna misquote me and turn everytin around the same way u misquoted freshdude..... Dis is an old trick.... Both are consentual, both are between adults... Both are equally debasing.... if one can be legalised, why can't the other... 1 Like |
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by Nobody: 8:09pm On Jul 13, 2014 |
coogar: My gosh, he gets it Same freedoms, different intricacies within the population - the culture, the melting pot, the African American community, racial tensions, etc etc!! I am not having any intelligent discussion with you. this is coogar taking the shyte on a delivery chic from papa johns. crime & punishment - the reason american prisons are filled to the brim. so what's responsible for the promiscuity? What do you mean by promiscuity? Looll You're now judging how much sex people are having, mr. matchmaker? Thailand holds the title last I checked. how is it apple & oranges? Now this is silly. You want me to explain how China and the US are an apples to oranges comparison? They're different in pretty much every way imaginable :-/ apart from the fact that america is their biggest debtor, there's a lot to copy from them even if we ignore the issues of what we are discussing - the ills of the western society. Like what? A vague opinion piece with zero points. China is fast becoming first GDP. Living in an America that ranks second in GDP to China will still be far, far better than living in China. |
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by coogar: 8:20pm On Jul 13, 2014 |
EnlightenedSoul: you are a disgrace.... which culture? i laid the booby-trap so obvious and yet you still fell in it. there's no melting point or culture in america that isn't elsewhere. america wasn't the only place that carted slaves from africa - stop making flimst excuses for the irresponsible lives you lead out there.
teenage pregnancy isn't promiscuity? like i keep reiterating, you lack the gift of foresight. go and read about teenage mothers & their likelihood to have kids that will get pregnant in their teens as well.
they aren't any different. china takes his discipline seriously, US is free for all. china operates a modest freedom/rights, america can't even be bothered - they claim it's a land of the "free" except that a staggering 2 million of their citizens are locked up.
zero points? who are china's biggest debtor? do you even read the news? china is a super-power now, don't even kid yourself about it. every country wants to be on the side of china. america's GDP means squat! GDP my left bütt. if you really sit down & analyse how GDP stats are calculated, you wouldn't even bring it up. nigeria has the highest GDP in africa & they aren't better than togo. |
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by Nobody: 8:20pm On Jul 13, 2014 |
njokusboy: . Okay, state the common scientific research and make me see the common sense.... U seem to enjoy chasing rabbits, u wanna misquote me and turn everytin around the same way u misquoted freshdude..... Dis is an old trick.... Both are consentual, both are between adults... Both are equally debasing.... if one can be legalised, why can't the other... How did I misquote him? Just look at the bold. Also notice the serious butt-kissing that's going on in here. Anyway, you're already stepping in with the wrong foot with all your bias and sentiments. I've honestly had enough of that. If you consider me dishonest, I'd rather not continue. Keep to your ideas. |
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by Nobody: 8:54pm On Jul 13, 2014 |
EnlightenedSoul:. Lolzz, I don't kiss a'r'se, if I honestly thought you had a good point, I'd have supported you... I think its better we end the argument.... |
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by Nobody: 9:02pm On Jul 13, 2014 |
coogar: you are a disgrace.... Trap?! On something you couldn't comprehend for the last day or so? Credibility down with the bolded. The US is not like the UK is not like the Netherlands is not like Canada. The dynamics of the population is different. For instance, of the 2 million incarcerated, African Americans account for HALF that number at nearly 1 million (12% of the population). Normal across the board? I think deep down you know that US can hardly compare to other countries. teenage pregnancy isn't promiscuity? like i keep reiterating, you lack the gift of foresight. go and read about teenage mothers & their likelihood to have kids that will get pregnant in their teens as well. Forget foresight, you lack basic elementary understanding. It's why your brain works in a loop? So revisiting....again: Teenage pregnancy is teenage pregnancy. Pregnancy is not directly proportional to how promiscuous the society is. Hence the reason Thailand, which is apparently the most promiscuous place in the world, isn't even close to our high in TP's. UK has lower stats then we do, are you implying it's because they're not having sex? Rubbish! Are you implying that teenagers in Europe and other Western countries are abstaining? Bullshyt. It's prevention! TP is down 65% in the last 50 years and continues to nosedive. I've already explained this in detail. That last point is no surprise. It's a general fact that holds everywhere, and can be linked to the socio-economic background. they aren't any different. LMAO. Ok. I'm done. zero points? who are china's biggest debtor? do you even read the news? china is a super-power now, don't even kid yourself about it. every country wants to be on the side of china. america's GDP means squat! GDP my left bütt. if you really sit down & analyse how GDP stats are calculated, you wouldn't even bring it up. nigeria has the highest GDP in africa & they aren't better than togo. That could be argued, regardless, the statement still stands. China's caught up on trade, but it's still struggling in other areas of it's economy and it's still very competitive. Besides that, the general quality of life is incomparable. China being a superpower hasn't yet changed that. Hopefully it will improve. G'byeeeeeeeeeee. |
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