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Re: .:: Non-tithers Are Criminals ::. by seunoni34(m): 9:41am On Jul 13, 2014
Eyop:
You are the one that refuses to be wise. I'll rather give the 10% out to the needy,those that are in the hospitals unable to pay their bills,beggars,orphanage,etc than give that to a pastor
But I'm very sure you are yet to do this. Just say u can't give tithe simple!
Re: .:: Non-tithers Are Criminals ::. by MarkMiwerds(m): 9:44am On Jul 13, 2014
Scyllapatron:

if the entire wealth belong to your broke ass jewish deity, why does he demand 10% of my salary? he must be so greedy and discontented.....


God does not demand 1/10th of anyone's income. He never did in His Word, He doesn't today. He does not, and will not tell man to do something that contradicts His written Word.

His Word says,

2 Corinthians 9:6-7 But this I say, He which soweth sparingly shall reap also sparingly; and he which soweth bountifully shall reap also bountifully. Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver.

The above verses reveal that God does not dictate the amount we are to give. He said we are to choose ourselves what we want to give.

Elsewhere, He said,

2 Corinthians 8:12-13 For if there be first a willing mind, it is accepted according to that a man hath, and not according to that he hath not. For I mean not that other men be eased, and ye burdened:

God's Word says our giving should not put us in financial stress while others lives are made easier. Quite contrary to what the Pastors are teaching, eh? God wants you to live within your means. The pastors want you to give even if it causes you to lack necessities.

Do not sneer at the true God. He is not as these pastors paint him to be. It is their wicked and deceitful actions that are against your living comfortably, not God's.

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Re: .:: Non-tithers Are Criminals ::. by olashas(f): 9:44am On Jul 13, 2014
Happywoman: My one kobo una no go see.
Even apostle Paul worked .Imagine ! A whole one tenth of what I make because una dey find free money web God no tell una to take. una wan hammer ba? Join the hardworking hustlers.
2moro, una go build university, banks etc
In fact make religious bodies sef begin pay tax ! Why not !

thievess!
Fashola wan start am o, church no gree
Re: .:: Non-tithers Are Criminals ::. by olashas(f): 9:45am On Jul 13, 2014
Eyop:
You are the one that refuses to be wise. I'll rather give the 10% out to the needy,those that are in the hospitals unable to pay their bills,beggars,orphanage,etc than give that to a pastor
Big ups bro cool

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Re: .:: Non-tithers Are Criminals ::. by Eyop: 9:45am On Jul 13, 2014
seunoni34:
But I'm very sure you are yet to do this. Just say u can't give tithe simple!
Giving tithe is foolishness. Give offering and not tithe.

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Re: .:: Non-tithers Are Criminals ::. by Eyop: 9:47am On Jul 13, 2014
olashas:
Big ups bro cool
wink Sexy you...

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Re: .:: Non-tithers Are Criminals ::. by seunoni34(m): 9:49am On Jul 13, 2014
Blasphemy everywhere, I can see why some peeps will die poor. "My people perish for Lack of knowledge"

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Re: .:: Non-tithers Are Criminals ::. by Nobody: 9:50am On Jul 13, 2014
Idrismusty97: Honestly it have now turn to a sort of competitions between churches. Where i stayed i am surrounded with more than 5 different churches! They are not far from each other, at least you can see 3 of them from my compound. In a certain street i saw two different churches facing each other! When one is praying the other is singing, Sometimes both would be singing absolutely different songs. No Harmony at all it is just pure competition. There is another church call "Redeemed". There is no where you won't find this church in all sizes and colour. It is not enough to build just one big church in a certain area but they would build 3 not far from each other with the same name redeem.

sometimes you have to feel pity for these people, pentecostal christianity has put people in a state of mental disarray and perpetual insatiability,
fear, insecurity, intellectual poverty, anger, envy, confusion, depression, no peace of mind, always restless and never contented in life.

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Re: .:: Non-tithers Are Criminals ::. by MarkMiwerds(m): 9:50am On Jul 13, 2014
Umunede: Jesus said in Matt 23:23 "Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites. For ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin and have ommitted the weightier matters of the law, judgement, mercy and faith: these ought ye to have done and not to leave the other undone.". Clearly, Jesus didn't condemn paying of tithe. Why are we condemning what Jesus didn't condemn. Paying of tithe is only one of many things expected of a christian as we see in the verse.
Wrong! Jesus was telling the Pharisees in Israel that they were to tithe. And what they were to tithe was exactly what they were tithing... mint, anise, cummin... garden produce.

Christians are not required to tithe their money to the Church.

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Re: .:: Non-tithers Are Criminals ::. by timilehing(m): 9:50am On Jul 13, 2014
EvilBrain1: If god wants money, he should get a job just like everybody else.
I read through this thread and I can conclude that
"MANY ARE MAD BUT FEW ARE ROAMING"!!

Have ever seen a treasury-loaded or a bullion spaceship traveling to heaven to deliver tithes and offerings to God? He made everything in this world for us to enjoy, how much more could be underneath His feet?
One thing is sure either you're m.ad/in.sane, pay your tithe to God's house or pay it to hospitals/police/robbers & co. gladly in several folds.
No man ever spent his tithe without paying to God or Devil.
Re: .:: Non-tithers Are Criminals ::. by jamesbridget13(f): 9:51am On Jul 13, 2014
U re entitled 2 ur opinions ooo but pls am begging some persons to stop mocking God.
Re: .:: Non-tithers Are Criminals ::. by aljpimp(m): 9:51am On Jul 13, 2014
why the controversy about God and tithe.No one is forced to believe as u all are entitled to ur choices...why not do good things as commanded by God while on earth than begging for second chance when ur existence on earth is no more..The fact that you believe in God does not change him from being God..we humans just love to believe things that will bring justice to our evil consciences
Re: .:: Non-tithers Are Criminals ::. by timilehing(m): 9:53am On Jul 13, 2014
EvilBrain1: If god wants money, he should get a job just like everybody else.
I read through this thread and I can conclude that
"MANY ARE MAD BUT FEW ARE ROAMING"!!
Have ever seen a treasury-loaded or a bullion spaceship traveling to heaven to deliver tithes and offerings to God? He made everything in this world for us to enjoy, how much more could be underneath His feet?
One thing is sure either you're m.ad/in.sane, pay your tithe to God's house or pay it to hospitals/police/robbers & co. gladly in several folds.
No man ever spent his tithe without paying to God or Devil.
Re: .:: Non-tithers Are Criminals ::. by Nobody: 9:58am On Jul 13, 2014
Umunede: Jesus said in Matt 23:23 "Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites. For ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin and have ommitted the weightier matters of the law, judgement, mercy and faith: these ought ye to have done and not to leave the other undone.". Clearly, Jesus didn't condemn paying of tithe. Why are we condemning what Jesus didn't condemn. Paying of tithe is only one of many things expected of a christian as we see in the verse.

Assuming you are right, have you noticed that all the items mentioned for tithing were agicultural produce ?

t'ithe of mint and anise and cummin '

So tell us, how did we get to $$$$$$ from agricultural products ?

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Re: .:: Non-tithers Are Criminals ::. by Nobody: 9:59am On Jul 13, 2014
Scyllapatron:

sometimes you have to feel pity for these people, pentecostal christianity has put people in a state of mental disarray and perpetual insatiability,
fear, insecurity, intellectual poverty, anger, envy, confusion, depression, no peace of mind, always restless and never contented in life.

100% correct , I was once there and to be honest regret the wasted years in this cult that could have been used for more productive ventures.

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Re: .:: Non-tithers Are Criminals ::. by danielmichael(m): 9:59am On Jul 13, 2014
That's the reason y u will see sum pastors in hell...bkos dey neva wana preach on dis particula stuff

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Re: .:: Non-tithers Are Criminals ::. by donchuky(m): 10:00am On Jul 13, 2014
Debt. 14vs22. Set aside a tithe - a tenth of all that your fields produce each year 23. Then go to the one place where the Lord your God has chosen to be worshipped; and there in his present eat the tithes of your corn, wine and olive oil, and the first - born of cattle and sheep. Do this so that you may learn to honour the Lord your God always. 24 if the place of worship is too far from your home for you to carry there the tithe of the product that the Lord has blessed you with, then do this 25. Sell your produce and take the money with you to the one place of worship 26.spend it on wathever you want - beef, lamb, wine, beer - and there, in the present of the Lord your God, you and your families are to eat and enjoy yourself. 27. Do not neglect the Levites who live in your towns; they have no property of their own 28. At the end of every third year bring the tithe of all your crops and store it in your towns 29. This food is for the Levites, since they own no property, and for the foreigners, orphans, and widows who live in your towns . They are to come and get all they need. Do this and the Lord your God will bless you in everything you do.
You can also read Deut. 12vs5-7 or Numbers 18 or Leviticus. These are some bible scriptures your men of God can never quote for you when talking about tithes. You can also ready 1Cor.16v2. I am not condemning people who pay or who does not pay but act as your spirit leads you but the bible should be a standard in everything we do.
Re: .:: Non-tithers Are Criminals ::. by winner01(m): 10:04am On Jul 13, 2014
Kenny4lyfe: Nσω, вєƒσrє уσυ ∂rαω тнαт є-dαggєr яєα∂ ωнaт тнє ωσя∂ σƒ God ѕαуѕ αвσυт тнιѕ ¢αrєƒυℓℓу:
Malachi 3:8
Wιℓℓ α мαη rσвв Gσ∂?
уєт ує нανє rσввє∂ мє!
вυт ує ѕαу, "ωнєrєιη нανє ωє rσввє∂ тнєє?"
ιη тιтнєѕ αη∂ ιη σƒƒєяιηgѕ!"

The hand writing is clearly written on the wall as you can see!
How can a Non-Tither/Anti-Tither possibly justify him/herself before God with this declaration? #TeamAnti_Tithers over to you!
nice job, your aim and motive is clear.....No matter your campaign against tithes, let God be true and every man a liar (Rom 3:4) .....According to the christian belief, giving or sowing guarantees receiving or reaping (As long as the earth remaineth)Gen 8:22 .... Paying tithes, giving to the needy, sowing into the ministry, sowing into the lives of Men of God and such forms of giving is an essential part of christianity....Mock God,mock the scriptures,make write ups to discourage people from the path of righteousness,mockery did not start in your generation and probably will not end in it. May God forgive you.
Re: .:: Non-tithers Are Criminals ::. by lakefist(m): 10:05am On Jul 13, 2014
kbshow100: I'm sorry father,I can't fuel your jet while still hungry. I know you don't mind me dying of hunger so far as I pay my tithe. To hell with tithe #TeamSayNoToTithe
i pray God give u the understanding of his words. And please mind what you say so that you Wont commit sin against your creator.
Re: .:: Non-tithers Are Criminals ::. by Toks2008(m): 10:08am On Jul 13, 2014
I Have stopped blaming Atheists because if you look at it critically, Who is GOD? where did he come from? How can we just believe that there is a supreme being, the maker of heaven and earth and we all just have to obey one funny commandments and worship an unseen GOD.

Infarct, i honestly support the notion that GOD does not exist but this is also foolishness in itself because believing there is no GOD is believing that I DO NOT EXIST.

Lets assume there is no GOD,lets assume there is no heaven and hell and lets assume that all things i see right now was formed by a big bang and even my existence was as a result of random evolution of life but then there must be a source of that particle, that perceived bang must be caused by something and this beautiful world we see must definitely originate from a source and that source is good enough to be My GOD.

I chose to call that bang Jehovah, i chose to worship that non existing thing that brought all what i see and even me to existence.

And i have decided to also acknowledge that thing i have taken as my creator as also my provider,my healer,my all and that thing will i go back to when i drop dead one day and go back to that thing i call Jehovah.

Believing that there is GOD(Jehovah who made heaven and earth) is a privilege and those of us who believe in GOD should be happy and be grateful to be among those who will have something to go back to when we die and for those who believe there is no GOD, two things are involved,.

Accept his existence when you are alive and if you realize he does not exist when you seize to exist in this product of a big bang, you will lose absolutely nothing.

Or reject his existence and discover you are wrong after leaving this world and you will have everything to lose.

I rest my case.
Re: .:: Non-tithers Are Criminals ::. by kevoh(m): 10:09am On Jul 13, 2014
To all tithers (most especially) and non-tithers, Christians, Atheists, Muslims,Traditional Religion Believers e.t.c on this thread. Since we are all arguing talking about giving money here, I would like you all to do the needful on this thread if you have not done so:

https://www.nairaland.com/1806328/n4-million-sos-appeal-child

And if you have already donated to save her and still feel like doing more, please do not hesitate.

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Re: .:: Non-tithers Are Criminals ::. by winner01(m): 10:10am On Jul 13, 2014
frosbel:

100% correct , I was once there and to be honest regret the wasted years in this cult that could have been used for more productive ventures.
A cult does not allow u to leave unscathed... Now that's what peace is.

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Re: .:: Non-tithers Are Criminals ::. by Nobody: 10:10am On Jul 13, 2014
MarkMiwerds: God does not demand 1/10th of anyone's income. He never did in His Word, He doesn't today. He does not, and will not tell man to do something that contradicts His written Word.

His Word says,

2 Corinthians 9:6-7 But this I say, He which soweth sparingly shall reap also sparingly; and he which soweth bountifully shall reap also bountifully. Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver.

The above verses reveal that God does not dictate the amount we are to give. He said we are to choose ourselves what we want to give.

Elsewhere, He said,

2 Corinthians 8:12-13 For if there be first a willing mind, it is accepted according to that a man hath, and not according to that he hath not. For I mean not that other men be eased, and ye burdened:

God's Word says our giving should not put us in financial stress while others lives are made easier. Quite contrary to what the Pastors are teaching, eh? God wants you to live within your means. The pastors want you to give even if it causes you to lack necessities.

Do not sneer at the true God. He is not as these pastors paint him to be. It is their wicked and deceitful actions that are against your living comfortably, not God's.

a pastor told my friend's pregnant wife that she was having a baby-boy, he told her not to go for ultrasound scan, that ultrasound means she is doubting god's prophecy. the pastor told my friend and his wife to make a covenant-vow of N250,000 to god, they did, in the 9th month of her pregnancy, the pastor told her to come and give a testimony of a baby-boy in advance, she and her husband bought many items for the church, with extra N50,000 for the man of god. she gave testimony of a baby-boy and the entire church were shouting haleluyah!! the pastor told her to name the child in advance, in front of the pulpit she gave the baby a boy's name and the entire church were shouting haleluyah!!
on her due date, she gave birth to a lovely baby-girl cheesy grin lol!
the foolish woman was so ashamed, she informed the pastor and the pastor said that he saw the vision, that the enemies of her husband changed the gender of the baby..... cheesy grin grin grin
this is a true-life-story, long story sha but i just summarized it. ......, pentecostal christianity is a joke..

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Re: .:: Non-tithers Are Criminals ::. by IGLE25(m): 10:11am On Jul 13, 2014
The Christian God is broke, how come is the Pastors that owe most of the private universities in Nigeria and also owe most of the private jets we heard of Nigerians having.... Wake up and leave that your religion that is after killing innocent souls... Boko Haram memeber like you.....Make you no allow God slap your face...
Scyllapatron: the christian god is broke, he needs money, he needs money, he needs money .
pay your tithe, pay your tithe, or he will not bless you. ... grin
he needs money. grin
Re: .:: Non-tithers Are Criminals ::. by winner01(m): 10:12am On Jul 13, 2014
Eyop:
Giving tithe is foolishness. Give offering and not tithe.
you said so, and my Bible tells me something else, I'm thinking about who I should belief...I choose my Bible over a skunk.
Re: .:: Non-tithers Are Criminals ::. by Eyop: 10:14am On Jul 13, 2014
Scyllapatron:

a pastor told my friend's pregnant wife that she was having a baby-boy, he told her not to go for ultrasound scan, that ultrasound means she is doubting god's prophecy. the pastor told my friend and his wife to make a covenant-vow of N250,000 to god, they did, in the 9th month of her pregnancy, the pastor told her to come and give a testimony of a baby-boy in advance, she and her husband bought many items for the church, with extra N50,000 for the man of god. she gave testimony of a baby-boy and the entire church were shouting haleluyah!! the pastor told her to name the child in advance, in front of the pulpit she gave the baby a boy's name and the entire church were shouting haleluyah!!
on her due date, she gave birth to a lovely baby-girl lol!
the foolish woman was so ashamed, she informed the pastor and the pastor said that he saw the vision, that the enemies of her husband changed the gender of the baby.....
this is a true-life-story, long story sha but i just summarized it. ......, pentecostal christianity is a joke..
grin grin grin

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Re: .:: Non-tithers Are Criminals ::. by IGLE25(m): 10:14am On Jul 13, 2014
I love your quote Brother.... May God be with you.... I believe their god seek for help...
indomitable234:

Yeah if 'god' wants money he should get a job
but my God is the owner of the universe,all the gold and silver are his,the cattle upon the ten thousand hills are his so your god can go get a job
Re: .:: Non-tithers Are Criminals ::. by Nobody: 10:15am On Jul 13, 2014
seunoni34: Blasphemy everywhere, I can see why some peeps will die poor. "My people perish for Lack of knowledge"

it is intellectual poverty that makes you think that if you pay 10% of your hard earned salary to another man, you will get rich.

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Re: .:: Non-tithers Are Criminals ::. by Eyop: 10:16am On Jul 13, 2014
winner01: you said so, and my Bible tells me something else, I'm thinking about who I should belief...I choose my Bible over a skunk.
And who's telling you not to believe your bible undecided Seek wisdom to understand your Bible

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Re: .:: Non-tithers Are Criminals ::. by Votukpa(m): 10:16am On Jul 13, 2014
For all those mocking God, your spiritual eyes are simply closed...and rightly so...for your own good. You will 'see' one day...that day.

For those supporting the tithe doctrine blindly, take your time and read this...know the truth and believe it. http://www.bible-truths.com/tithing.htmlhttp://www.bible-truths.com/tithing.html

This puts the final nail on the coffin of the tithing confusion.
Re: .:: Non-tithers Are Criminals ::. by MarkMiwerds(m): 10:17am On Jul 13, 2014
winner01: you said so, and my Bible tells me something else, I'm thinking about who I should belief...I choose my Bible over a skunk.
Where does your Bible tell you that God requires you to tithe your Naira? Can you post the verse?

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Re: .:: Non-tithers Are Criminals ::. by Votukpa(m): 10:18am On Jul 13, 2014
Votukpa: For all those mocking God, your spiritual eyes are simply closed...and rightly so...for your own good. You will 'see' one day...that day.

For those supporting the tithe doctrine blindly, take your time and read this...know the truth and believe it. http://www.bible-truths.com/tithing.htmlhttp://www.bible-truths.com/tithing.html

This puts the final nail on the coffin of the tithing confusion.

http://www.bible-truths.com/tithing.html. sorry

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