Pure rubbish, he is confused may be he had a bad silly dream cos-
Abraham begat Isaac & Ishmael
Isaac - Christianity
Ishmael- Islam

Isaac begat Jacob(Isreal)
Jacob(Isreal) begat the 12(tribes of Isreal)

Abraham, Isaac and Jacob are not Egyptians but the Fathers of Isreal and Christianity, so if Igbo's originated from Gad how come its now Egypt and not Isreal ?, how come Igbo's are mostly Catholic and not Muslems, practising Islam ?

This is just one of Nollywoods 'coming soon' films story lines am sure he was shown the script in respest to his position in the society inorder to honor their release of their film, then he later slept and dreamt of it making him to believe it is true.

We really need to get our facts straight cos the Nigerian Elders of ours will just lead us to doom.

new2020:
Tufukwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. Igbo and who? We can never be from the same place...never. The intelligence gap and physical attraction is so far apart.

I can see that feather on your hat is not for nothing... Ode.

this story should be sold to Gulder Ultimate Search

I really don't understand why some people are dying of ignorance, and yet they claim to know what they know not.

People should stop linking the IGBOS to WHITES; they were never whites but blacks (light skin). Claiming to be what you are not adds no value to your life. Believe it or not, the IGBOS are ANCIENT people (Ndi’gboo) and IGBO language is the very first language to be spoken on earth. IGBO as a language was the very language used for creation.
The DECEPTION was brought by the whites. How? There is not language originally as HEBREW. The so-called HEBREW was a copied work of IGBO. They sound alike does not mean that they are the same. Those people in the HOLY BOOK called HEBREWS are actually IGBOS. Never believe that IGBO is a corruption of HEBREW; rather so-called HEBREW is a corruption of IGBO. ‘ABIAMA’ (called ABRAHAM by the whites) was an IGBO man who made a Covenant with CHUKWUNNA.
In the holy bible, they keep on giving wrong interpretation of names of IGBOS (they could not speak). ‘ISHI-AKU’/ ‘ISA-AKU’ laughed a lot at childhood does not mean that his name means ‘Laughter’. ‘YAKO-OBU’ cheated his brother does not mean that his name means ‘cunning one’, and he fought with an ANGEL does not mean that ‘ISI-ARA-ELU’ means ‘he wrestled with GOD’. The same with ‘AHARA-ONU’, ‘MALA-CHI’ etc... AN THE DESCENDANTS OF JACOB WERE NOT WHITES; THEY WERE BLACKS (LIKE THE IGBOS).
ND’IGBOO (ANCIENT PEOPLE) long existed before every other people. IGBOS are the descendants of CHIMA (SHEM by the whites) and they have long-lived in IGBOLAND of NIGERIA. The people (Prophets and Priests) that they tell you about in the HOLY BOOK are IGBO PROPHETS and PRIESTS (holders of OFO; the symbol of Peace and Righteousness). BUT!!! That does not mean that the DESCENDANTS OF JACOB are not in IGBOLAND (most of them fled to their fathers land after the EXILE). IGBOS are of Ancient Origin, the PEOPLE spoken of by the ‘MOST HIGH’ in ISAIAH 44:7. IGBOS are the people that GOD CALLED HIS OWN PEOPLE.

This is the more reason why you see many people out of ignorance studying HEBREW as a language. Like I said before, there was no such language as HEBREW (copied language); what was in existence was IGBO (the DIVINE LANGUAGE OF GOD). REMEMBER!!! THE SCRIPTURE SAYS that CHRIST WILL RULE THE WORLD AFTER THE ORDER OF MELCHIZEDECK (THE ANCIENT HOLDER Of OFO).
This ignorance goes a long way. That is why most Christians criticize OMENALA ( THE CULTURE OF TRUTH AND RIGHTEOUSNESS) and even the preachers because they have little knowledge of BIBLE. OMENALA was never devised by anyone. Anyone who said that his GRANDFATHER devised OMENALA is a BIG LIAR. Since OMENALA was not devised by man, then how did it come about? This question will make you think more about GOD and his COMMANDMENTS which the so-called CHRISTIANS abolish. They live under deception and they know not much about whom they claim to follow. LET ME NOT SOUND LIKE A FOOLISH PERSON; I GO TO CHURCH but things are not in order. Instead of seeing our cause of banishment (so that we can make it right); they rob us of our money and only see for us curses.
The MINISTERS of God do preach against OMENALA and say that it is evil. Wicked people are against OMENALA. Prostitutes are against OMENALA. EVERYONE IS AGAINST OMENALA. Witches and Wizards in IGBOLAND are against OMENALA. WHY? BECAUSE IT KILLS. THIS IS THE LAW OF RIGHTEOUSNESS built in CULTURE (for the worship of the only TRUE GOD). OMENALA KILLS THOSE WHO ARE EVILDOERS. THEY are afraid of OMENALA because once initiated they must be exposed. OMENALA HAD NEVER KILLED ANYONE THAT IS UPRIGHT. Even when people think that you upright but you are not ‘YOU MUST PAY FOR YOUR SINS’. With OMENALA you dare not COMMIT EVIL (whether in secret or in public place) because it must strike you. What do they preach in churches? You can sin as many times as possible, and after that just say ‘God I am sorry’ and your sins will be forgiven. PEOPLE WORSHIP WHAT THEY KNOW NOT. This makes people less afraid of GOD (THE MOST HIGHEST CREATOR WHO MADE MAN AND HIS ANCIENT PEOPLE). LET US COUNT OUR TEETH WITH OUR TONGUE.

ABIAMA (ABRAHAM) did not give birth to any religion; not even when he was ABIAM (ABRAM). What he had was a way of life (Culture). Religion came into play as a result of MISCONCEPTION. That is why you see the MAJOR RELIGIONS OF THE WORLD fighting against one another in the name of CHUKWUNNA (THE ALMIGHTY GOD THE FATHER). What they call religion all originated from IGBOLAND and they are the various ways through which THE ANCIENT PEOPLE (ND'IGBOO, spoken of in ISAIAH 44:7)worship THE TRUE GOD through OMENALA (CULTURE).

onyedikachiyuda:
I really don't understand why some people are dying of ignorance, and yet they claim to know what they know not.

People should stop linking the IGBOS to WHITES; they were never whites but blacks (light skin). Claiming to be what you are not adds no value to your life. Believe it or not, the IGBOS are ANCIENT people (Ndi’gboo) and IGBO language is the very first language to be spoken on earth. IGBO as a language was the very language used for creation.
The DECEPTION was brought by the whites. How? There is not language originally as HEBREW. The so-called HEBREW was a copied work of IGBO. They sound alike does not mean that they are the same. Those people in the HOLY BOOK called HEBREWS are actually IGBOS. Never believe that IGBO is a corruption of HEBREW; rather so-called HEBREW is a corruption of IGBO. ‘ABIAMA’ (called ABRAHAM by the whites) was an IGBO man who made a Covenant with CHUKWUNNA.
In the holy bible, they keep on giving wrong interpretation of names of IGBOS (they could not speak). ‘ISHI-AKU’/ ‘ISA-AKU’ laughed a lot at childhood does not mean that his name means ‘Laughter’. ‘YAKO-OBU’ cheated his brother does not mean that his name means ‘cunning one’, and he fought with an ANGEL does not mean that ‘ISI-ARA-ELU’ means ‘he wrestled with GOD’. The same with ‘AHARA-ONU’, ‘MALA-CHI’ etc... AN THE DESCENDANTS OF JACOB WERE NOT WHITES; THEY WERE BLACKS (LIKE THE IGBOS).
ND’IGBOO (ANCIENT PEOPLE) long existed before every other people. IGBOS are the descendants of CHIMA (SHEM by the whites) and they have long-lived in IGBOLAND of NIGERIA. The people (Prophets and Priests) that they tell you about in the HOLY BOOK are IGBO PROPHETS and PRIESTS (holders of OFO; the symbol of Peace and Righteousness). BUT!!! That does not mean that the DESCENDANTS OF JACOB are not in IGBOLAND (most of them fled to their fathers land after the EXILE). IGBOS are of Ancient Origin, the PEOPLE spoken of by the ‘MOST HIGH’ in ISAIAH 44:7. IGBOS are the people that GOD CALLED HIS OWN PEOPLE.

This is the more reason why you see many people out of ignorance studying HEBREW as a language. Like I said before, there was no such language as HEBREW (copied language); what was in existence was IGBO (the DIVINE LANGUAGE OF GOD). REMEMBER!!! THE SCRIPTURE SAYS that CHRIST WILL RULE THE WORLD AFTER THE ORDER OF MELCHIZEDECK (THE ANCIENT HOLDER Of OFO).
This ignorance goes a long way. That is why most Christians criticize OMENALA ( THE CULTURE OF TRUTH AND RIGHTEOUSNESS) and even the preachers because they have little knowledge of BIBLE. OMENALA was never devised by anyone. Anyone who said that his GRANDFATHER devised OMENALA is a BIG LIAR. Since OMENALA was not devised by man, then how did it come about? This question will make you think more about GOD and his COMMANDMENTS which the so-called CHRISTIANS abolish. They live under deception and they know not much about whom they claim to follow. LET ME NOT SOUND LIKE A FOOLISH PERSON; I GO TO CHURCH but things are not in order.. Instead of seeing our cause of banishment (so that we can make it right); they rob us of our money and only see for us curses.
The MINISTERS of God do preach against OMENALA and say that it is evil. Wicked people are against OMENALA. Prostitutes are against OMENALA. EVERYONE IS AGAINST OMENALA. Witches and Wizards in IGBOLAND are against OMENALA. WHY? BECAUSE IT KILLS. THIS IS THE LAW OF RIGHTEOUSNESS built in CULTURE (for the worship of the only TRUE GOD). OMENALA KILLS THOSE WHO ARE EVILDOERS. THEY are afraid of OMENALA because once initiated they must be exposed. OMENALA HAD NEVER KILLED ANYONE THAT IS UPRIGHT. Even when people think that you upright but you are not ‘YOU MUST PAY FOR YOUR SINS’. With OMENALA you dare not COMMIT EVIL (whether in secret or in public place) because it must strike you. What do they preach in churches? You can sin as many times as possible, and after that just say ‘God I am sorry’ and your sins will be forgiven. PEOPLE WORSHIP WHAT THEY KNOW NOT. This makes people less afraid of GOD (THE MOST HIGHEST CREATOR WHO MADE MAN AND HIS ANCIENT PEOPLE). LET US COUNT OUR TEETH WITH OUR TONGUE.

what do you guys smoke?

macof:


what do you guys smoke?

lol...i na fit laff as i read that post

macof:


what do you guys smoke?

i swear i was asking myself this same question. These people just keep embarrassing the many sane Igbo people i know. Where is the Psych ward when you need it...

onyedikachiyuda:
I really don't understand why some people are dying of ignorance, and yet they claim to know what they know not.

People should stop linking the IGBOS to WHITES; they were never whites but blacks (light skin). Claiming to be what you are not adds no value to your life. Believe it or not, the IGBOS are ANCIENT people (Ndi’gboo) and IGBO language is the very first language to be spoken on earth. IGBO as a language was the very language used for creation.
The DECEPTION was brought by the whites. How? There is not language originally as HEBREW. The so-called HEBREW was a copied work of IGBO. They sound alike does not mean that they are the same. Those people in the HOLY BOOK called HEBREWS are actually IGBOS. Never believe that IGBO is a corruption of HEBREW; rather so-called HEBREW is a corruption of IGBO. ‘ABIAMA’ (called ABRAHAM by the whites) was an IGBO man who made a Covenant with CHUKWUNNA.
In the holy bible, they keep on giving wrong interpretation of names of IGBOS (they could not speak). ‘ISHI-AKU’/ ‘ISA-AKU’ laughed a lot at childhood does not mean that his name means ‘Laughter’. ‘YAKO-OBU’ cheated his brother does not mean that his name means ‘cunning one’, and he fought with an ANGEL does not mean that ‘ISI-ARA-ELU’ means ‘he wrestled with GOD’. The same with ‘AHARA-ONU’, ‘MALA-CHI’ etc... AN THE DESCENDANTS OF JACOB WERE NOT WHITES; THEY WERE BLACKS (LIKE THE IGBOS).
ND’IGBOO (ANCIENT PEOPLE) long existed before every other people. IGBOS are the descendants of CHIMA (SHEM by the whites) and they have long-lived in IGBOLAND of NIGERIA. The people (Prophets and Priests) that they tell you about in the HOLY BOOK are IGBO PROPHETS and PRIESTS (holders of OFO; the symbol of Peace and Righteousness). BUT!!! That does not mean that the DESCENDANTS OF JACOB are not in IGBOLAND (most of them fled to their fathers land after the EXILE). IGBOS are of Ancient Origin, the PEOPLE spoken of by the ‘MOST HIGH’ in ISAIAH 44:7. IGBOS are the people that GOD CALLED HIS OWN PEOPLE.

This is the more reason why you see many people out of ignorance studying HEBREW as a language. Like I said before, there was no such language as HEBREW (copied language); what was in existence was IGBO (the DIVINE LANGUAGE OF GOD). REMEMBER!!! THE SCRIPTURE SAYS that CHRIST WILL RULE THE WORLD AFTER THE ORDER OF MELCHIZEDECK (THE ANCIENT HOLDER Of OFO).
This ignorance goes a long way. That is why most Christians criticize OMENALA ( THE CULTURE OF TRUTH AND RIGHTEOUSNESS) and even the preachers because they have little knowledge of BIBLE. OMENALA was never devised by anyone. Anyone who said that his GRANDFATHER devised OMENALA is a BIG LIAR. Since OMENALA was not devised by man, then how did it come about? This question will make you think more about GOD and his COMMANDMENTS which the so-called CHRISTIANS abolish. They live under deception and they know not much about whom they claim to follow. LET ME NOT SOUND LIKE A FOOLISH PERSON; I GO TO CHURCH but things are not in order. Instead of seeing our cause of banishment (so that we can make it right); they rob us of our money and only see for us curses.
The MINISTERS of God do preach against OMENALA and say that it is evil. Wicked people are against OMENALA. Prostitutes are against OMENALA. EVERYONE IS AGAINST OMENALA. Witches and Wizards in IGBOLAND are against OMENALA. WHY? BECAUSE IT KILLS. THIS IS THE LAW OF RIGHTEOUSNESS built in CULTURE (for the worship of the only TRUE GOD). OMENALA KILLS THOSE WHO ARE EVILDOERS. THEY are afraid of OMENALA because once initiated they must be exposed. OMENALA HAD NEVER KILLED ANYONE THAT IS UPRIGHT. Even when people think that you upright but you are not ‘YOU MUST PAY FOR YOUR SINS’. With OMENALA you dare not COMMIT EVIL (whether in secret or in public place) because it must strike you. What do they preach in churches? You can sin as many times as possible, and after that just say ‘God I am sorry’ and your sins will be forgiven. PEOPLE WORSHIP WHAT THEY KNOW NOT. This makes people less afraid of GOD (THE MOST HIGHEST CREATOR WHO MADE MAN AND HIS ANCIENT PEOPLE). LET US COUNT OUR TEETH WITH OUR TONGUE.

WTF is this?

STOP THIS BASTARDIZATION OF AFRICAN HISTORY AND CULTURE PLEASE.

IGBO PEOPLE ARE AFRICANS . .AS AN IGBO MAN I AM AN AFRICAN. ..I'M NOT CONNECTED IN ANYWAY TO JEWS , HEBREWS & ISRAEL.

I wonder who started spreading this ridiculous theory that igbo pple have origins in Israel, egypt or jewish/hebrew ancestry. . UTTER NONSENSE

Different igbo towns have different stories of origin, which can roughly be categorized into three 1) Those who believe their ancestors came from the sky or emerged from the earth (e.g Towns like umueri/aguleri and the Nri clan area) (2) Towns whose founders came from other pre-existing igbo commmunities (3) Towns whose founders came from other places which were none igbo (like Eik,ibibio, Bini, igala e.t.c) but eventually settled and founded igbo communities.

ANYBODY THAT DREAMS UP ANY OTHER STORY OF ORIGIN LIKE THIS JEWISH/HEBREW NONSENSE IS A COMPLETE MAD MAN.

Revolva:
Baldadadash eri in the biblical times is a different person ....so now these igbo leaders are tryin to associate eri of africa to eri of the bible...omo na lie jare igbos have to trace to israel nor egypt....black man is a black man and have been existing before any white man ok

Don't be a fool my friend. The Real Isrealites were not white but black!!
Isrealites are children of Shem (black with beauty), Africans are the children of Ham (Black like the raven), while Japhet was the father of whites.
Africans and Isrealites looked alike because both were blacks (read your bible very well)!!!

onyedikachiyuda:


Don't be a fool my friend. The Real Isrealites were not white but black!!
Isrealites are children of Shem (black with beauty), Africans are the children of Ham (Black like the raven), while Japhet was the father of whites.
Africans and Isrealites looked alike because both were blacks (read your bible very well)!!!

true bro but if so that's is every black african are sons of israel..u mean and not only ndi igbos ok...so this one wey e be say some igbos dey carry am for head..its funny. When the nation of isreal does not even recognize them

onyedikachiyuda:


Don't be a fool my friend. The Real Isrealites were not white but black!!
Isrealites are children of Shem (black with beauty), Africans are the children of Ham (Black like the raven), while Japhet was the father of whites.
Africans and Isrealites looked alike because both were blacks (read your bible very well)!!!

rossik and mr. President would like this

But you see you really stupid gan.
West Africans have no "Ham" in our ancestry, aborigine West Africans like Igbo, Yoruba, akan, ijaw and Bantus of Central Africa have no links outside Africa and thereby have no "Ham"

Maybe when you speak of ham you should point to Cushites and Berbers and other Afro-asiatic people leaving out the inner and larger parts of Africa

and modern acclaimed descendants of shem are light/brown skinned living in the middle east
There's no black in "Semitic"

Chinaimporter:
My respect to his royal majesty but i would put a basket on my face as i say he is very wrong.The true origin of the igbos lies in the sumerian city of ur near the site on ancient babylonia.the igbos establist the ubaid dynasty headed by the great igbo king meshanepada who built a ziggurat in honor of the great god nnanna(also called nanna in sumerian and sin in akkadian) who asked the igbos to migrate to other part of the world to spread civilization in the then young world. Igbos then invented the first alphabet called the cuneiform and left babylon under an igbo family called the Akadians who where the ancestors of modern arabs,Ethiopians and jews through a former sheperd of igbo orign called abraham.
The igbos then migrated to perisia which they civilized and gave her first royal dynasty and their god called Ahura mazda(i hi ura mu aza gi meaning he who answers me in my sleep)
From there they went to ancient egypt where they civilized and gave her first pyramids and also sent a delegation th civilized the barbarians in the north called the greeks.it should be noted that some of the greatest greek men where igbos eg aristotle(erie asi tolu uto), pythagoras(bia ta ara) achilles( aku ili) etc.
The igbos also enslaved the isrealites in both babylonia and Egypt and after they got tired of the city life they migrated to eastern nigeria while civilizing the Nubians, yorubas,fulanis etc on there way.it should be noted that oduduwa and bayegida were all igbos in oduduwa case yoruba legend holds that he is a fair man from the east. The igos are not desended from jews or egyptians rather thses people are all desended from the igbos and and unbiased historical evaluatiomin would prove that

LMAAAAOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
Laff has killed pesin here o o o
Who brings all these people into nairaland. . . .

macof:


rossik and mr. President would like this

But you see you really stupid gan.
West Africans have no "Ham" in our ancestry, aborigine West Africans like Igbo, Yoruba, akan, ijaw and Bantus of Central Africa have no links outside Africa and thereby have no "Ham"

Maybe when you speak of ham you should point to Cushites and Berbers and other Afro-asiatic people leaving out the inner and larger parts of Africa

and modern acclaimed descendants of shem are light/brown skinned living in the middle east
There's no black in "Semitic"

I quite agree with you friend. Nevertheless, I would like to refer you to some of the passages in the Bible : Job 30:30, Jeremiah 8:21, Lamentation 5:10 etc...

onyedikachiyuda:


I quite agree with you friend. Nevertheless, I would like to refer you to some of the passages in the Bible : Job 30:30, Jeremiah 8:21, Lamentation 5:10 etc...

lmao you are complete retard

Read Job 30:27-30
"my bowels boiled and rested not...I went without the Sun, I stood up and cried in the Congregation. I am brother to dragons and a companion of owls...30"my skin is black upon me and my bones burned with heat"

Here we see job describing his pain upon all the afflictions he endured, his skin turned black upon all his sufferings and illness not that "black" is the natural complexion colour of his skin

Jeremiah 8:21 "for the hurt of the daughters of my people, I am hurt, I am black, astonishment has taken hold of me"
It's only a complete moroon that would see this and say God (whom was the speaker: I bet u didn't know that well read from the beginning of the chapter) was describing his complexion, also notice that the verse(21) was an emotional statement not a description of physic.. Like in modern terms we have "I am blue" instead of saying,"I am sad"
Does that mean the person is blue?

Lamentations 5:10 "our skin was black like an oven because of the terrible famine

I want to believe you can read the bold

macof:


rossik and mr. President would like this

But you see you really stupid gan.
West Africans have no "Ham" in our ancestry, aborigine West Africans like Igbo, Yoruba, akan, ijaw and Bantus of Central Africa have no links outside Africa and thereby have no "Ham"

Maybe when you speak of ham you should point to Cushites and Berbers and other Afro-asiatic people leaving out the inner and larger parts of Africa

and modern acclaimed descendants of shem are light/brown skinned living in the middle east
There's no black in "Semitic"

Abram is of Shem and when he met his wife sarai she thought he was an Egyptian (Misraim) from Kham/Khemet/BLACK. Moses a Hebrew of Shem was taken as an Egyption baby of Kham by the Pharaoh of Egypt when they wanted to kill Hebrew babies because of increase in population. Jesus as a baby hid in Egypt when Herod wanted to kill the first born of 2 years and blended in which is why Herod wanted to kill all baby and not a light skin Hebrew baby of Shem looking different. Paul, a Jew, was mistaken for an Egyptian when the Roman soldier was surprised that he could speak Greek. Joseph an Israelite of Shem's line in Egypt did not look any different from regular Egyptians when his brothers saw him and did not recognise him. Many Israelites aslo had taken Egyptian women as wives. There was no telling descendants of Kham from Shem apart in skin color.


I have one theory. I will give you a clue. America is from the name of a person who wrote about the New World named Amerigo. G, K, Q, C is vela plosive and can be equivalent in different languages and dialects. As you can See the G in Amerigo became C in America which is a similar velar plosive sound. Another example is Pidgin which is pronounced pikin in other related language meaning child.

Igbo people have a claim of being decedents from Eri son of Gad the Son of Jacob/Israel that left Egypt and went to West Arica. The story goes on to say that reaching West Africa in the area of the Niger River the natives ask who they are from. It goes on to say that communication was difficult and told them they are from Igbo.

My theory is that Igbo was not pronouce Igbo in those anciet times but possibly Igobo or Igobu meaning from Igob. The G being velor plosive could easily be equivalent to Ikob or Iqub or Icob equivalent to the Hebrew Name Yaqub. The Latin version of the name is Iacobus and we know the “s” was not vocalize coming from Greek and would sound like Iacobo. The sigma (s) is to signify masculine gender.
Igbo is possibly short for Igobu writing it with latin letters. But the Hebrew would be YQBU with the consonantal letters that carry meaning.Basically the same. Igbo language is closely related to Hebrew with similar words.

A lot of people of different tribe in West Africa seem to have some link with Judah/Israel that fled Egypt(bondage) after many Years ofliving there.

Igbo is Yqbu = Yacob = Jacob (latin to English). The name got distorted and has no meaning in Igbo but once uncovered relates to Jacob that find some way to get the blessings of his father.

Bayajida is Beth Yahuda = House Yahuda = House of Judah

Ijaw is Yahu = the Elohim of IQBO/Icbo/Israel named YHWH that dwelt in Heaven/skies…..These people say Yahu/Ijaw is from the skies and he came down and made man…..People think the legend means the people fell down from the skies. Yahu’s chosen people are the tribe of Israel/Judah

Ouidah/Whiddah of Bennin = Portuguese rendition of Judah with the distortion of the “J” letter to sound like an “H” or silent.

Ashanti people say they from an ancient city named Ashan which is mentioned it the bible to be a city for the tribe of Judah and Levites among them after leaving Egypt.

In the times of the Kings after leaving Egypt Yhwh stuck down the Cushites(desendant of Ham) in front of Asa and Judah. The Cushites fled and Judah took over all the land of Cush. The land of Cush covers a large area of Africa and possibly India. Judah was the largest tribe and other nations that they defeated engrafted into Judah as a tribe.

My question is…Was there always an English “J” sound in the origin of the Igbo language since the current sound is almost new world wide in all language or did it come into use when accepting the Latin alphabets influence by westerners.

macof:


lmao you are complete retard

Read Job 30:27-30
"my bowels boiled and rested not...I went without the Sun, I stood up and cried in the Congregation. I am brother to dragons and a companion of owls...30"my skin is black upon me and my bones burned with heat"

Here we see job describing his pain upon all the afflictions he endured, his skin turned black upon all his sufferings and illness not that "black" is the natural complexion colour of his skin

Jeremiah 8:21 "for the hurt of the daughters of my people, I am hurt, I am black, astonishment has taken hold of me"
It's only a complete moroon that would see this and say God (whom was the speaker: I bet u didn't know that well read from the beginning of the chapter) was describing his complexion, also notice that the verse(21) was an emotional statement not a description of physic.. Like in modern terms we have "I am blue" instead of saying,"I am sad"
Does that mean the person is blue?

Lamentations 5:10 "our skin was black like an oven because of the terrible famine

I want to believe you can read the bold

Though, this is a social network (everyone has the right to post anything). But!! You should not post to distort facts; rather, you post because you have something tangible to offer. I don't want to patronize you; hence, we are all students (learning). Some of the points I had wanted to give you have been stated by 'Dalet' (whom I believe has deep understanding of the Scripture!). If I may ask, do you even have any tangible evidence to even prove that the Shemites were Brown (Light-Skinned)? perhaps, we believe. And also, in talking of Light-skin, Igbos on the average are they not light-skinned?

And in addition to what my friend (Dalet) said. If you really have understanding (of the Scripture), then you would agree with me that 'Pharaoh' thought of Moses as his own flesh and blood (because Moses had the same colour with Pharaoh). Also, after Moses Killed an Egyptian, and noticed that people knew about it, he fled to Midian. And After Moses (Moshe) had helped the daughters of the priest (of Midian) to fetch water (because the Shepherds prevented them). And they got home, and their father (Reuel) asked them and said "How is it that ye are come so soon to day?" and they said, "An Egyptian delivered us out of the hand of the shepherds, and also drew water enough for us, and watered the flock". Now tell me, if Moses colour had been distinct from the Egyptians, why would they (daughters of Priest) call him an Egyptian? Why not a light-skinned man in an Egyptian attire? Also when Jacob died; let me quote Genesis 50:9 "And there went up with him (Joseph) both chariots and horsemen: and it was a very great company (of both Egyptians and Israelites).
Verse 11 "And when the inhabitants of the land, the Canaanites, saw the mourning in the floor of Atad, they said, This is a grievous mourning to the Egyptians. Remember!! This is a group of both Israelites and Egyptians; but the Canaanites thought they were all Egyptians (because they are of the same skin colour).

Coming to what you said earlier, everyone that has common sense would know that Famine can cause someone (that has Melanin) to be darker than his/her original complexion, and that is Why the Verse talked about Famine being the cause of that. What do you understand by the statement in Lamentation 4:8 "Their visage is blacker than a coal"? If the passage in the Scripture is Really True, then, there is no point saying that there is no black person in Israel.

onyedikachiyuda:


Though, this is a social network (everyone has the right to post anything). But!! You should not post to distort facts; rather, you post because you have something tangible to offer. I don't want to patronize you; hence, we are all students (learning). Some of the points I had wanted to give you have been stated by 'Dalet' (whom I believe has deep understanding of the Scripture!). If I may ask, do you even have any tangible evidence to even prove that the Shemites were Brown (Light-Skinned)? perhaps, we believe. And also, in talking of Light-skin, Igbos on the average are they not light-skinned?

And in addition to what my friend (Dalet) said. If you really have understanding (of the Scripture), then you would agree with me that 'Pharaoh' thought of Moses as his own flesh and blood (because Moses had the same colour with Pharaoh). Also, after Moses Killed an Egyptian, and noticed that people knew about it, he fled to Midian. And After Moses (Moshe) had helped the daughters of the priest (of Midian) to fetch water (because the Shepherds prevented them). And they got home, and their father (Reuel) asked them and said "How is it that ye are come so soon to day?" and they said, "An Egyptian delivered us out of the hand of the shepherds, and also drew water enough for us, and watered the flock". Now tell me, if Moses colour had been distinct from the Egyptians, why would they (daughters of Priest) call him an Egyptian? Why not a light-skinned man in an Egyptian attire? Also when Jacob died; let me quote Genesis 50:9 "And there went up with him (Joseph) both chariots and horsemen: and it was a very great company (of both Egyptians and Israelites).
Verse 11 "And when the inhabitants of the land, the Canaanites, saw the mourning in the floor of Atad, they said, This is a grievous mourning to the Egyptians. Remember!! This is a group of both Israelites and Egyptians; but the Canaanites thought they were all Egyptians (because they are of the same skin colour).

Coming to what you said earlier, everyone that has common sense would know that Famine can cause someone (that has Melanin) to be darker than his/her original complexion, and that is Why the Verse talked about Famine being the cause of that. What do you understand by the statement in Lamentation 4:8 "Their visage is blacker than a coal"? If the passage in the Scripture is Really True, then, there is no point saying that there is no black person in Israel.

Lmao now Bible passages don't serve ur purpose you shift to using Egyptians as leverage

Well Egypt was a mixed civilization of brown(light) typical Mediterranean skin-the Arabs and Hebrews claim to have been Hamites as sons of Misraim(Genesis 10:6) and pure blacks from the South(Nubia and subsaharan Africa) who resided predominantly in the Nile valley and had no "Ham" in them.

mistaking a brown person from the middle east for an Egyptian is no big deal as many Egyptians were brown too


Igbo have light skinned population yes, so does Yoruba- hence the word "Oyinbo" which isn't just used for non-Africans but also Africans that have peeled skin as a result of many medical factors
and why do you bring this up? Have you seen that there's no way to prove Hebrews are black and come up with Igbos are white?
You are desperate to identify with Hebrews that you can't even stick to one argument

macof:



Lmao now Bible passages don't serve ur purpose you shift to using Egyptians as leverage

Well Egypt was a mixed civilization of brown(light) typical Mediterranean skin-the Arabs and Hebrews claim to have been Hamites as sons of Misraim(Genesis 10:6) and pure blacks from the South(Nubia and subsaharan Africa) who resided predominantly in the Nile valley and had no "Ham" in them.

mistaking a brown person from the middle east for an Egyptian is no big deal as many Egyptians were brown too


Igbo have light skinned population yes, so does Yoruba- hence the word "Oyinbo" which isn't just used for non-Africans but also Africans that have peeled skin as a result of many medical factors
and why do you bring this up? Have you seen that there's no way to prove Hebrews are black and come up with Igbos are white?
You are desperate to identify with Hebrews that you can't even stick to one argument

Take a good look at the way you are fooling yourself! I initially thought that you are an intelligent guy; but it seems that you are not (at all). Now, Genesis 10:6, tells you of the sons of Ham; Cush, Misraim, Phut and Canaan. All the sons of Ham were blacks!!! Libya, Ethiopia, Egypt and Canaan. The whites you see in the Northern parts of African are not (originally) Africans, but whites. Learn this now!! There was nothing like mixed!!

Alexander (called the great) suspected that Israelites were Africans; even before he was told by Africans that the Land of Israel is part of Africa. During the time of Herodotus, people called Africa Libya. And also, in the time of Vespasian 'Egypt'. And in some places in the Bible; you will see Africa being referred to as Ethiopia Simply because, it is the Land of they are all Lands of the Descendants of Ham (Black man).

It seems you are ashamed of giving up. Don't wash your dirty mouth outside because you have no point to prove!!!

onyedikachiyuda:


Though, this is a social network (everyone has the right to post anything). But!! You should not post to distort facts; rather, you post because you have something tangible to offer. I don't want to patronize you; hence, we are all students (learning). Some of the points I had wanted to give you have been stated by 'Dalet' (whom I believe has deep understanding of the Scripture!). If I may ask, do you even have any tangible evidence to even prove that the Shemites were Brown (Light-Skinned)? perhaps, we believe. And also, in talking of Light-skin, Igbos on the average are they not light-skinned?

And in addition to what my friend (Dalet) said. If you really have understanding (of the Scripture), then you would agree with me that 'Pharaoh' thought of Moses as his own flesh and blood (because Moses had the same colour with Pharaoh). Also, after Moses Killed an Egyptian, and noticed that people knew about it, he fled to Midian. And After Moses (Moshe) had helped the daughters of the priest (of Midian) to fetch water (because the Shepherds prevented them). And they got home, and their father (Reuel) asked them and said "How is it that ye are come so soon to day?" and they said, "An Egyptian delivered us out of the hand of the shepherds, and also drew water enough for us, and watered the flock". Now tell me, if Moses colour had been distinct from the Egyptians, why would they (daughters of Priest) call him an Egyptian? Why not a light-skinned man in an Egyptian attire? Also when Jacob died; let me quote Genesis 50:9 "And there went up with him (Joseph) both chariots and horsemen: and it was a very great company (of both Egyptians and Israelites).
Verse 11 "And when the inhabitants of the land, the Canaanites, saw the mourning in the floor of Atad, they said, This is a grievous mourning to the Egyptians. Remember!! This is a group of both Israelites and Egyptians; but the Canaanites thought they were all Egyptians (because they are of the same skin colour).

Coming to what you said earlier, everyone that has common sense would know that Famine can cause someone (that has Melanin) to be darker than his/her original complexion, and that is Why the Verse talked about Famine being the cause of that. What do you understand by the statement in Lamentation 4:8 "Their visage is blacker than a coal"? If the passage in the Scripture is Really True, then, there is no point saying that there is no black person in Israel.

Check out the link below for an ancient map of Africa. Abraham of Shem's line had a son by the name Midian. Above the Niger lake there is a place called Midian along the Niger River. Coincidence? Moses fled Egypt and went to Midian where he had relative. Jethro the preist of Midian was an advisor of the Pharaoh but left because pharaoh had a problem with him being friendly with the Hebrews. Jethro chose family over Pharaoh of Egypt and went and settled in Midian. They are occasions where people fled Egypt and seemed to travel down the Nile. This would be an Easy root from Egypt to go to Midian above the Niger Lake. The Igbos story said they took that root down the river Nile as well with the tribe of Gad and then went West.


http://www.geographicus.com/P/AntiqueMap/Africa-moll-1732#fullimage

onyedikachiyuda:


Take a good look at the way you are fooling yourself! I initially thought that you are an intelligent guy; but it seems that you are not (at all). Now, Genesis 10:6, tells you of the sons of Ham; Cush, Misraim, Phut and Canaan. All the sons of Ham were blacks!!! Libya, Ethiopia, Egypt and Canaan. The whites you see in the Northern parts of African are not (originally) Africans, but whites. Learn this now!! There was nothing like mixed!!

Alexander (called the great) suspected that Israelites were Africans; even before he was told by Africans that the Land of Israel is part of Africa. During the time of Herodotus, people called Africa Libya. And also, in the time of Vespasian 'Egypt'. And in some places in the Bible; you will see Africa being referred to as Ethiopia Simply because, it is the Land of they are all Lands of the Descendants of Ham (Black man).

It seems you are ashamed of giving up. Don't wash your dirty mouth outside because you have no point to prove!!!

show me where Ham was called the Father of black people? Infact every people once classified as "Hamitic" are not a black people

Libyans, Canaanites, Phoenicians, Berbers and Cushites aren't a black culture or civilization and Egypt was a mixed civilization, the people of upper Egypt were totally different from those of lower Egypt before the unification of both Kingdoms

There's no such record of Alexander having such erroneous thoughts stop your useless lies
And Israel is not Africa it's Asia, particularly the middle east

macof:


show me where Ham was called the Father of black people? Infact every people once classified as "Hamitic" are not a black people

Libyans, Canaanites, Phoenicians, Berbers and Cushites aren't a black culture or civilization and Egypt was a mixed civilization, the people of upper Egypt were totally different from those of lower Egypt before the unification of both Kingdoms

There's no such record of Alexander having such erroneous thoughts stop your useless lies
And Israel is not Africa it's Asia, particularly the middle east

I think its hard-time we stop this nonsense and mind our businesses. I did not join this site to be exchanging curses with anyone. However, I must confess that you are a real novice (who has limited understanding of the subject matter) only claiming to know what he does not know. If I may ask, what led us to this place?

I might not be able to reply you simply because I have seen that you can not even reason. What is the point of trying to win an argument; whereas no trophy to carry?

Let me tell you, in the original Akkadian, Sumerian and the so-called Hebrew language, 'Ham' is a word used for black, even its root in Arabic can also prove that. Ham in these languages means black; however, I can not conclude for sure that Ham means 'black' (just because he had black complexion) until I have its equivalence in Igbo language.

You said that Shemites had no black; you really need to know more about Israelites and Shemites. Let me not tell stories, Cush (Ethiopia) is a son of Ham and in Latin as well as in some other languages means black. To be specific, Ethiopia is the darkest of them all, followed by Egypt, Libya and then Canaan (somewhat brown-coloured). Let us not forget that Shem means dusky (dark-coloured) in the original Akkadian, Sumerian languages even in the so-called Hebrew.

Why can't be any black Shemite? A prophet and a teacher was a man called SIMEON the NIGER. SIMEON was a jew but called NIGER (latin word for black) because he was the darkest of all the disciples of CHRIST. CYRENE is also a region notable for its black population.

I do not want to write much pertaining this, because, I believe that 'a word is enough for the wise'. What shall it even profit you if you are called an Israelite but you are not? Or, what shall it take away from you if you are not recognised as an israelite, but you really are? The so-called Jews in the middle-east are they really Israelites? CHRIST tells us that He knows abot it in Revelations 2:9. God actually knows his people (you do not become a Shemite by faith).

onyedikachiyuda:


I think its hard-time we stop this nonsense and mind our businesses. I did not join this site to be exchanging curses with anyone. However, I must confess that you are a real novice (who has limited understanding of the subject matter) only claiming to know what he does not know. If I may ask, what led us to this place?

I might not be able to reply you simply because I have seen that you can not even reason. What is the point of trying to win an argument; whereas no trophy to carry?

Let me tell you, in the original Akkadian, Sumerian and the so-called Hebrew language, 'Ham' is a word used for black, even its root in Arabic can also prove that. Ham in these languages means black; however, I can not conclude for sure that Ham means 'black' (just because he had black complexion) until I have its equivalence in Igbo language.

You said that Shemites had no black; you really need to know more about Israelites and Shemites. Let me not tell stories, Cush (Ethiopia) is a son of Ham and in Latin as well as in some other languages means black. To be specific, Ethiopia is the darkest of them all, followed by Egypt, Libya and then Canaan (somewhat brown-coloured). Let us not forget that Shem means dusky (dark-coloured) in the original Akkadian, Sumerian languages even in the so-called Hebrew.

Why can't be any black Shemite? A prophet and a teacher was a man called SIMEON the NIGER. SIMEON was a jew but called NIGER (latin word for black) because he was the darkest of all the disciples of CHRIST. CYRENE is also a region notable for its black population.

I do not want to write much pertaining this, because, I believe that 'a word is enough for the wise'. What shall it even profit you if you are called an Israelite but you are not? Or, what shall it take away from you if you are not recognised as an israelite, but you really are? The so-called Jews in the middle-east are they really Israelites? CHRIST tells us that He knows abot it in Revelations 2:9. God actually knows his people (you do not become a Shemite by faith).

I find it funny that you have been saying am a novice, am ignorant yet it's u showing ignorance.

שחור (shakor) means black in Hebrew not "Ham"
the Ham theory of black people became popular by Europeans not Hebrews
Hamites aren't black dude, they don't even claim anywhere in Africa as their origin...they claim Mesopotamia like Hebrews and many other middle easterns

الأسود (aswad) means black in Arabic "aswudan" (corrupted to Sudan) means "black people"
This was used to describe the Nubians who were true blacks...these Nubians had nothing to do with ur father Ham

So stop lying. Am only trying to snap u out of ur delusions that Hebrews or Ham are the fathers of blacks

macof:



I find it funny that you have been saying am a novice, am ignorant yet it's u showing ignorance.

שחור (shakor) means black in Hebrew not "Ham"
the Ham theory of black people became popular by Europeans not Hebrews
Hamites aren't black dude, they don't even claim anywhere in Africa as their origin...they claim Mesopotamia like Hebrews and many other middle easterns

الأسود (aswad) means black in Arabic "aswudan" (corrupted to Sudan) means "black people"
This was used to describe the Nubians who were true blacks...these Nubians had nothing to do with ur father Ham


So stop lying. Am only trying to snap u out of ur delusions that Hebrews or Ham are the fathers of blacks

The word Ham or properly Kham is not of Hebrew origin but Egyptian. The meaning of Kham, however, in the Hebrew language does mean Heat or Hot given the idea of something being roasted. This is the same idea for the word Aithiopia which translates burnt face by the Greeks because of the dark/very black complexion like being sun burnt. khemet, the Egyptian word of the same Root of Kham means land of the Black.

The current Egyptian people probably wouldn't claim Africa as their origin because they are not the original Egyptians. They invaded the land and took over. Some probably mixed with the originals.

macof:



I find it funny that you have been saying am a novice, am ignorant yet it's u showing ignorance.

שחור (shakor) means black in Hebrew not "Ham"
the Ham theory of black people became popular by Europeans not Hebrews
Hamites aren't black dude, they don't even claim anywhere in Africa as their origin...they claim Mesopotamia like Hebrews and many other middle easterns

الأسود (aswad) means black in Arabic "aswudan" (corrupted to Sudan) means "black people"
This was used to describe the Nubians who were true blacks...these Nubians had nothing to do with ur father Ham

So stop lying. Am only trying to snap u out of ur delusions that Hebrews or Ham are the fathers of blacks

It amazed me as I read your posts saying that you are proving me wrong (whereas you are only running around). Though, Shakor in the so-called Hebrew means Black, and Aswad also means Black in Arabic. Does it imply that the words for black in these languages are limited to ‘Shakor’ and ‘Aswad’? Maybe it’s your naïve nature of reasoning that inhibits your understanding (Mediocrity should not be an excuse!).
Like I said before, the root word for ‘Ham’ in Arabic is ‘Chamam’ meaning black. Also in the so-called Hebrew, the equivalence of Ham is ‘Khawm’ also connoting the same meaning.
For example, in Igbo language, ‘Uli’ means Black does not imply that ‘Oji’ does not mean Black. Though, ‘Uli’ and ‘Oji’ mean black also do not imply that ‘Unyi’ can not be used in reference to Black.

This is the very reason why I said earlier that you could not even reason (I decided not to reply you; however, let me correct some impressions). You are too eager to win an argument and that is why you cling unto unnecessary things; thereby, missing the Point (fallacy!).

Anyone can speak Afro-Asiatic language. So, speaking Hamitic language does not guarantee you of Hamitic descent. If Hamites were not blacks, Shemites weren't blacks; it is obvious that Japhet (Jefeta) was white, then how did Blacks evolve. Also, you said that Shemites had no black; but agreed that the Igbos are of Shem. Are there no black people in Igboland? Though, Noah was whites; was his father (Lamech) not black?

No point arguing unnecessarily. Besides, you have not answered the question I asked. Try and make your points very clear and prove me wrong. Correct me of this my impression by answering just these two questions.

1. Why is Simeon called Niger?
2. Why is the Black Madonna of Częstochowa the most revered image of Mary and her child Jesus?

G.T Basden's description of the igbo traditional attitude towards poor relatives is perfect.In his own words "family law and tradition of the igbos demands that help must be given to a brother or sister in distress regardless of the origin of the trouble,whether domestic,financial,or otherwise.

What comes to ones mind observes the traditional igbo system in Deuteronomy 15 vs7 which prescribes "if there is among you a needy man,one of thy brethren,within any of thy gates in the land which thy lord thy God given thee,thy shall not harden thy heart nor shut thy hand from needy brother and thy shall surely open thy hand unto him and shall surely lend him sufficient for his need in that which he wanteth.

Directly paralleling in biblical prescription is the igbo attitude to needy relatives as can be gleaned from chinua achebe (Things fall apart)sold around the world.

dalet:



The word Ham or properly Kham is not of Hebrew origin but Egyptian. The meaning of Kham, however, in the Hebrew language does mean Heat or Hot given the idea of something being roasted. This is the same idea for the word Aithiopia which translates burnt face by the Greeks because of the dark/very black complexion like being sun burnt. khemet, the Egyptian word of the same Root of Kham means land of the Black.

The current Egyptian people probably wouldn't claim Africa as their origin because they are not the original Egyptians. They invaded the land and took over. Some probably mixed with the originals.

u even seem more informed than u dummy partner onyedikachiyuda

Khem is Egyptian for black true that, so you wanna use this to justify the Ham theory?? Lol Ham has no meaning in Hebrew or Arabic
I told u the Ham theory of black people was never propagated by Hebrews, but Christian Europeans

Ethiopian's burnt face now makes them a black people? or u think a Negro is a Negro because the sun burnt his skin Burnt face doesn't make u a black man, there are other features
Take a look at Cushites and tell me the Negro you see in them and compare with Sudan and Sub-Saharan Africa...personally I think Cushites are mixed with Axumites and Negros from the black kingdom of Kush

macof:


u even seem more informed than u dummy partner onyedikachiyuda

Khem is Egyptian for black true that, so you wanna use this to justify the Ham theory?? Lol Ham has no meaning in Hebrew or Arabic
I told u the Ham theory of black people was never propagated by Hebrews, but Christian Europeans

Ethiopian's burnt face now makes them a black people? or u think a Negro is a Negro because the sun burnt his skin Burnt face doesn't make u a black man, there are other features
Take a look at Cushites and tell me the Negro you see in them and compare with Sudan and Sub-Saharan Africa...personally I think Cushites are mixed with Axumites and Negros from the black kingdom of Kush

I think you are fond of your foolishness (//be careful so that you don't fail your exams). You really need to read you books to get a little knowledge of what you are talking about. Stop displaying your ignorance in public!!

onyedikachiyuda:


It amazed me as I read your posts saying that you are proving me wrong (whereas you are only running around). Though, Shakor in the so-called Hebrew means Black, and Aswad also means Black in Arabic. Does it imply that the words for black in these languages are limited to ‘Shakor’ and ‘Aswad’? Maybe it’s your naïve nature of reasoning that inhibits your understanding (Mediocrity should not be an excuse!).
Like I said before, the root word for ‘Ham’ in Arabic is ‘Chamam’ meaning black. Also in the so-called Hebrew, the equivalence of Ham is ‘Khawm’ also connoting the same meaning.
For example, in Igbo language, ‘Uli’ means Black does not imply that ‘Oji’ does not mean Black. Though, ‘Uli’ and ‘Oji’ mean black also do not imply that ‘Unyi’ can not be used in reference to Black.

This is the very reason why I said earlier that you could not even reason (I decided not to reply you; however, let me correct some impressions). You are too eager to win an argument and that is why you cling unto unnecessary things; thereby, missing the Point (fallacy!).

Anyone can speak Afro-Asiatic language. So, speaking Hamitic language does not guarantee you of Hamitic descent. If Hamites were not blacks, Shemites weren't blacks; it is obvious that Japhet (Jefeta) was white, then how did Blacks evolve. Also, you said that Shemites had no black; but agreed that the Igbos are of Shem. Are there no black people in Igboland? Though, Noah was whites; was his father (Lamech) not black?

No point arguing unnecessarily. Besides, you have not answered the question I asked. Try and make your points very clear and prove me wrong. Correct me of this my impression by answering just these two questions.

1. Why is Simeon called Niger?
2. Why is the Black Madonna of Częstochowa the most revered image of Mary and her child Jesus?

what dictionary did u get this from Bloody liar.

You can check all I have posted via google to verify but u are all full of ridiculous lies to worship ur Hebrew masters
Blacks aren't Hamitic or Semitic damn it!
Blacks are Africans, true Africans that never left Africa(although some did...we have them in South Asia and Australia)

You look into Bible (semitic history) for black history I look into black history for black history. You can't possibly know where blacks came from when you are a Hebrew shiit licker trying to claim what ur Hebrew masters never sent u

There's nothing like Chamam or Khwam you bloody liar

onyedikachiyuda:


I think you are fond of your foolishness (//be careful so that you don't fail your exams). You really need to read you books to get a little knowledge of what you are talking about. Stop displaying your ignorance in public!!

Oh shut up you bloody lying Hebrew shit licker.
Proof that Ham is father of blacks you can't u resort to lies you think people here are fools??

u can say wat u like but bottom line is that Blacks have nothing to do with Ham, Shem or Japhet

You can't get black history from the Bible u dummy