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Why Do Muslims Hate Jews? by mazaje(m): 2:31pm On Jul 20, 2014 |
Its a fact that Muslims hate Jews, I want to know why that is so?. . .Reading through comments on Facebook and other sources on the internet, you will notice that the hate the Muslims have for Jews is almost like a religious duty. . .Muslims keep calling on Allah to destroy the evil and unbelieving Jews and other kafirs. . .Why do muslims hate Jews?. . .what have Jews done to Muslims to deserves such virulent hate?. . .If Allah hates the Jews why doesn't he destroy them? 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Muslims Hate Jews? by tbaba1234: 3:09pm On Jul 20, 2014 |
Muslims do not hate jews. Islam has had a very positive influence with Jewry over centuries. The israeli-palestianian conflict has created a political tension but dislike is more towards Zionism than judaism. if you know your history, you will know that islam saved Jewry. Don't take my word for it... This article is from the Jewish Chronicle: islam saved jewry. This is an unpopular, discomforting claim in the modern world. But it is a historical truth. The argument for it is double. First, in 570 CE, when the Prophet Mohammad was born, the Jews and Judaism were on the way to oblivion. And second, the coming of islam saved them, providing a new context in which they not only survived, but flourished, laying foundations for subsequent Jewish cultural prosperity - also in Christendom - through the medieval period into the modern world.By the fourth century, Christianity had become the dominant religion in the Roman empire. One aspect of this success was opposition to rival faiths, including Judaism, along with massive conversion of members of such faiths, sometimes by force, to Christianity. Much of our testimony about Jewish existence in the Roman empire from this time on consists of accounts of conversions.Great and permanent reductions in numbers through conversion, between the fourth and the seventh centuries, brought with them a gradual but relentless whittling away of the status, rights, social and economic existence, and religious and cultural life of Jews all over the Roman empire.A long series of enactments deprived Jewish people of their rights as citizens, prevented them from fulfilling their religious obligations, and excluded them from the society of their fellows.Had islam not come along, jewry in the west would have declined to disappearance and jewry in the east would have become just another oriental cultThis went along with the centuries-long military and political struggle with Persia. As a tiny element in the Christian world, the Jews should not have been affected much by this broad, political issue. Yet it affected them critically, because the Persian empire at this time included Babylon - now Iraq - at the time home to the world's greatest concentration of Jews.Here also were the greatest centres of Jewish intellectual life. The most important single work of Jewish cultural creativity in over 3,000 years, apart from the Bible itself - the Talmud - came into being in Babylon. The struggle between Persia and Byzantium, in our period, led increasingly to a separation between Jews under Byzantine, Christian rule and Jews under Persian rule.Beyond all this, the Jews who lived under Christian rule seemed to have lost the knowledge of their own culturally specific languages - Hebrew and Aramaic - and to have taken on the use of Latin or Greek or other non-Jewish, local, languages. This in turn must have meant that they also lost access to the central literary works of Jewish culture - the Torah, Mishnah, poetry, midrash, even liturgy.The loss of the unifying force represented by language - and of the associated literature - was a major step towards assimilation and disappearance. In these circumstances, with contact with the one place where Jewish cultural life continued to prosper - Babylon - cut off by conflict with Persia, Jewish life in the Christian world of late antiquity was not simply a pale shadow of what it had been three or four centuries earlier. It was doomed.Had islam not come along, the conflict with Persia would have continued. The separation between western Judaism, that of Christendom, and Babylonian Judaism, that of Mesopotamia, would have intensified. jewry in the west would have declined to disappearance in many areas. And jewry in the east would have become just another oriental cult.But this was all prevented by the rise of islam. The Islamic conquests of the seventh century changed the world, and did so with dramatic, wide-ranging and permanent effect for the Jews.More:Along with legal near-equality came social and economic equality. Jews were not confined to ghettos, either literally or in terms of economic activity. The societies ofislam were, in effect, open societies. In religious terms, too, Jews enjoyed virtually full freedom. They might not build many new synagogues - in theory - and they might not make too public their profession of their faith, but there was no really significant restriction on the practice of their religion. Along with internal legal autonomy, they also enjoyed formal representation, through leaders of their own, before the authorities of the state. Imperfect and often not quite as rosy as this might sound, it was at least the broad norm.More:Jewish cultural prosperity in the middle ages operated in large part as a function of Muslim, Arabic cultural (and to some degree political) prosperity: when Muslim Arabic culture thrived, so did that of the Jews; when Muslim Arabic culture declined, so did that of the Jews. http://www.thejc.com/comment-and-debate/comment/68082/so-what-did-muslims-do-jews This is from the Jewish chronicle. 4 Likes |
Re: Why Do Muslims Hate Jews? by tbaba1234: 3:11pm On Jul 20, 2014 |
An Italian Rabbi, Obadiah Yareh Da Bertinoro, travelled to Jerusalem in 1486 CE and he wrote a letter to his father telling him about the country and its people: “The Jews are not persecuted by the Arabs in these parts. I have travelled through the country in its length and breadth, and none of them has put an obstacle in my way. They are very kind to strangers, particularly to anyone who does not know the language; and if they see many Jews together they are not annoyed by it. In my opinion, an intelligent man versed in political science might easily raise himself to be chief of the Jews as well as of the Arabs…”[1] Compare the above with the situation of Jerusalem today. [1] Rabbi Obadiah Yareh Da Bertinoro, quoted in The Jewish Caravan edited by Leo W. Schwarz, The Jewish Publication Society of America, Philadelphia, 1946, p. 249. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Do Muslims Hate Jews? by tbaba1234: 3:14pm On Jul 20, 2014 |
"Here in the land of the Turks we have nothing to complain of. We possess great fortunes; much gold and silver are in our hands. We are not oppressed with heavy taxes and our commerce is free and unhindered. Rich are the fruits of the earth. Everything is cheap and every one of us lives in peace and freedom..."[1] A Rabbi living in the Muslim world in 1453 .[1] Philip Mansel. 1995. Constantinople: City of the World's desire, 1453-1924. Penguin Books, p. 15. 4 Likes |
Re: Why Do Muslims Hate Jews? by tbaba1234: 3:16pm On Jul 20, 2014 |
"Thus, when Muslims crossed the straits of Gibraltar from North Africa in 711 CE...Jews welcomed them as liberators from Christian Persecution."[1] A Jewish historian, [1] Sephardic & Mizrahi Jewry, New York, 2005, pp. 8-9. 3 Likes |
Re: Why Do Muslims Hate Jews? by tbaba1234: 3:18pm On Jul 20, 2014 |
Over centuries, the jews lived in more freedom and prosperity in muslim lands than in any other part of the world. Your statement is logically and historically false. 3 Likes |
Re: Why Do Muslims Hate Jews? by vedaxcool(m): 3:19pm On Jul 20, 2014 |
^ Nice response, though I find baffling u were able to make sense of largely incomplete sentences. ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Muslims Hate Jews? by mazaje(m): 3:49pm On Jul 20, 2014 |
tbaba1234: Over centuries, the jews lived in more freedom and prosperity in muslim lands than in any other part of the world. Why does EVERYTHING about Islam have to do with the past?. . .Why do Muslims always point to the past and never to the present or the future?. . .True muslims only lived in the past, the Islamic golden age is the only example of Islam, there is no true islamic nation today only in the past, muslims and Jews used to live together in harmony in the past. everything you guys refer to the past. .My question still stands, why do present day Muslims hate Jews?. . .Why?. . .read their comments, watch their preaching. . .They use Islam as the basis and justification of their virulent hate, why is that so?. . . 2 Likes |
Re: Why Do Muslims Hate Jews? by mazaje(m): 3:50pm On Jul 20, 2014 |
vedaxcool: ^ Do you like the Jews? Will you like to have anything to do with them? Can you marry one or let your son marry one?. . .Tell me haven't you prayed to allah to destroy the Jews this ramadan?. . . . |
Re: Why Do Muslims Hate Jews? by mazaje(m): 3:56pm On Jul 20, 2014 |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzlzDXWWRdM Most Muslims today view the Jews with the same sentiment the cleric in this video, why is that so?. . . Following are excerpts from a speech delivered by Egyptian cleric Muhammad Hussein Yaqub, which aired on Al-Rahma TV on January 17, 2009, and translated by MEMRI-TV 1001Phoenix kindly added the references to Islamic scriptures. The comments in the video are mine. Muhammad Hussein Yaqoub: If the Jews left Palestine to us, would we start loving them? Of course not. We will never love them. Absolutely not. The Jews are infidels not because I say so, and not because they are killing Muslims, but because Allah said: The Jews say that Uzair is the son of Allah, and the Christians say that Christ is the son of Allah. These are the words from their mouths. They imitate the sayings of the disbelievers before. May Allah fight them. How deluded they are. It is Allah who said that they are infidels. [Qur'an 9:30.] Your belief regarding the Jews should be, first, that they are infidels, and second, that they are enemies. They are enemies not because they occupied Palestine. They would have been enemies even if they did not occupy a thing. Allah said: You shall find the strongest men in enmity to the disbelievers [sic] to be the Jews and the polytheists. [Qur'an 5:82.] Third, you must believe that the Jews will never stop fighting and killing us. They [fight] not for the sake of land and security, as they claim, but for the sake of their religion: And they will not cease fighting you until they turn you back youre your religion, if they can. [Qur'an 2:217.] This is it. We must believe that our fighting with the Jews is eternal, and it will not end until the final battle and this is the fourth point. You must believe that we will fight, defeat, and annihilate them, until not a single Jew remains on the face of the Earth. It is not me who says so. The Prophet said: Judgment Day will not come until you fight the Jews and kill them. The Jews will hide behind stones and trees, and the stones and tree will call: Oh Muslim, oh servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him except for the Gharqad tree, which is the tree of the Jews. I have heard that they are planting many of these trees now. [...] [That Hadith can be found at Sahih Muslim 6985.] As for you Jews the curse of Allah upon you. The curse of Allah upon you, whose ancestors were apes and pigs. [Qur'an 2:62-65; 5:59-60; and 7:166.] You Jews have sown hatred in our hearts, and we have bequeathed it to our children and grandchildren. You will not survive as long as a single one of us remains. [...] Oh Jews, may the curse of Allah be upon you. Oh Jews... Oh Allah, bring Your wrath, punishment, and torment down upon them. Allah, we pray that you transform them again, and make the Muslims rejoice again in seeing them as apes and pigs. You pigs of the earth! You pigs of the earth! You kill the Muslims with that cold pig [blood] of yours. |
Re: Why Do Muslims Hate Jews? by mazaje(m): 4:00pm On Jul 20, 2014 |
This one is teaching every body using the life of the prophet as an example to hate Jews. . .My question still remains, why do muslims today have virulent hatred for the Jews?. . .What have the Jews done to them?. . .If you go to some mosques in northern Nigeria and hear the way clerics are cursing and praying to Allah to destroy all the Jews you will be amazed, why is that so?. . . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VFqsSiZwG0 |
Re: Why Do Muslims Hate Jews? by tbaba1234: 4:22pm On Jul 20, 2014 |
Islam did not begin in the 21st century. Historical precedence is important. Without political turmoil, history shows that jews lived in total peace with islam in power. Relationships with the jews have been tainted badly by the israeli conflict.. There is no doubt about it. I can also bring up videos and write-up that also bring clarity to our relationships with jews. There are many jews working with muslims for the freedom of palestine. Muslim men are allowed to marry jewish women without the woman changing her faith. How can you marry women that you hate or supposed to hate?? Common sense, man... 2 Likes |
Re: Why Do Muslims Hate Jews? by vedaxcool(m): 4:30pm On Jul 20, 2014 |
mazaje: I don't hate people based on their ethnicity or religion, so I have no hate for jews. Muslims are permitted to marry jews who are termed people of the book in the qur'an, so yes. And my prayer is Allah guide them to Islam, and despite this your alleged muslim hate for the jews, jews are copnverting to Islam. And to show even the jews u are making noise over don't buy your crap, do u know jews in Israel are protesting against the action of their govt. In gaza? Have u heard of levi, a jew who documents the actions of the Israeli govt against the Palestines? Most muslims are against the on-going massacre of Palestines in gaza which apparently hardly bothers you! Opening a thread based on your one person observation is hardly an objective thing to do. 6 Likes |
Re: Why Do Muslims Hate Jews? by mazaje(m): 4:59pm On Jul 20, 2014 |
vedaxcool: Do you deny the fact that many muslims hate Jews and use islam as a basis for their hatred?. . .What are you on about? SO what if jews are converting to islam, muslims are also converting to other religions so what exactly is your point?. . .Why are Muslims clerics leading prayer sessions and invoking Allah to destroy the Jews?. . .Why are they using islam as a basis for their hate?. . . |
Re: Why Do Muslims Hate Jews? by nnofaith: 5:35pm On Jul 20, 2014 |
Mohammed loved the Jews so much he beheaded 800 of them in banu quraiza, he shared their women and property among the faithfuls. In fairness to Mohammed tho, it was angel Gabriel that made him do it, it was an injunction from Allah. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Why Do Muslims Hate Jews? by malvisguy212: 5:57pm On Jul 20, 2014 |
I strongly believe, vedaxcool is from kogi state, egbira boy. Mazaje, kana bata dai lokochi ka, ba za taba yada dai kei. Na san ali so. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Do Muslims Hate Jews? by tintingz(m): 5:58pm On Jul 20, 2014 |
Did Jesus himself love the Jews? |
Re: Why Do Muslims Hate Jews? by sino(m): 6:06pm On Jul 20, 2014 |
tintingz: Did Jesus himself love the Jews? No bro, the question should be, who do the Jews love? |
Re: Why Do Muslims Hate Jews? by mazaje(m): 6:49pm On Jul 20, 2014 |
tintingz: Did Jesus himself love the Jews? Yes. . . . |
Re: Why Do Muslims Hate Jews? by ayinba1(f): 7:37pm On Jul 20, 2014 |
mazaje: You need a thorough course in history. Try not to post unless you have some understanding of what you are talking about. |
Re: Why Do Muslims Hate Jews? by mazaje(m): 7:51pm On Jul 20, 2014 |
ayinba1: Jesus hated his people abi?. . . |
Re: Why Do Muslims Hate Jews? by vedaxcool(m): 9:09pm On Jul 20, 2014 |
mazaje: Many muslims are actually opposed to the Israelis on the continued oppression of the Palestines, and like thaba stated this opposition is hardly historical and stemmed from wrongs done by zionists in collusion with colonialist in robbing Palestines of their lands and dignity! During ww2, muslims in france hid jews from nazis, www.nytimes.com/2011/10/04/movies/how-a-paris-mosque-sheltered-jews-in-the-holocaust.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0 but hatetheists like you distort reality to suit your fantasy or would u call historical? Einstein jews converting to Islam simply debunks your claims, does it make sense to convert to a faith where to use ur words "many" of its adherents actually hate u? It doesn't to me! And anti-semetism is problem even amongst atheists, christians etc! I have even heard of the words self hating jew! |
Re: Why Do Muslims Hate Jews? by vedaxcool(m): 9:14pm On Jul 20, 2014 |
malvisguy212: I strongly believe, vedaxcool is from kogi state, egbira boy. We are actually the ones wasting our time on one incoherent banter after another! #have anyone noticed that apart from being the greatest supporters of atheists on nl, the most tribalists set of I'd!ots and nonentity are mostly populated by christians? #Islamalltheway 4 Likes |
Re: Why Do Muslims Hate Jews? by vedaxcool(m): 9:17pm On Jul 20, 2014 |
tbaba1234: Islam did not begin in the 21st century. Historical precedence is important. Without political turmoil, history shows that jews lived in total peace with islam in power. Commonsense have been known not to be common . . . |
Re: Why Do Muslims Hate Jews? by onegig(m): 9:09am On Jul 21, 2014 |
Post withdrawn. |
Re: Why Do Muslims Hate Jews? by mazaje(m): 9:22am On Jul 21, 2014 |
vedaxcool: I posted a video of an islamic cleric telling muslims why they ought to hate Jews. . .here is what he said using the koran as his basis for hating the Jews. . . "Your belief regarding the Jews should be, first, that they are infidels, and second, that they are enemies. They are enemies not because they occupied Palestine. They would have been enemies even if they did not occupy a thing. Allah said: You shall find the strongest men in enmity to the disbelievers [sic] to be the Jews and the polytheists". . . . It is not me who says so. The Prophet said: [size=18pt]Judgment Day will not come until you fight the Jews and kill them[/size]. The Jews will hide behind stones and trees, and the stones and tree will call: Oh Muslim, oh servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him except for the Gharqad tree, which is the tree of the Jews. I have heard that they are planting many of these trees now. [...] Is it not the same Koran that calls the Jews pigs?. . . |
Re: Why Do Muslims Hate Jews? by true2god: 9:42am On Jul 21, 2014 |
Muslims should stop being unnecesarily sentimental world-wide. Islamic koran made it a criminal offense for a muslim woman to marry a jewish or a christian man but permits a muslim man marrying a christian\jewish woman. That alone is a high form of hypocrisy. Human movement and migration has evolved for thousands of years. In Nigeria, kwara belongs to the yorubas, but the jihadist had taken over political power and everybody has integrated well and there is no issue. In the north, uthman dan fodio army invaded the hausa community and established the emirate, the hausa\fulani had since integrated into the society and are one happy family. In north america, the whites invaded present-day US, took over their land, but today both the native americans and the whites, have forgotten the past and have built a strong and peaceful country. In australia, the british took the lands from the black aborigins, but today both the whites and the black aborigin are happily staying together, living in peace and harmony. In egypt, the arabs seized land from the coptics, drove the blacks down south (north sudan) and enslaved millions, but today, the coptics and the arab egyptians are living together in harmony. In the US, the whites enlaved the blacks for hundreds of years, but today, they are brothers and the blacks are very active in US politics. Relating it to the issue of the muslim\arabs\palenstinians vs the Jews, it is quite clear that the muslims never wanted peace with the Jews. I say this because, for many years, the arabs have failed to integrate the Jews into the larger arab society, which resulted the Jews asking for a separate homeland (present-day Israel) which the arab world are bent to destroy. Statements credit to ahmed ahmadinajab (of Iran) and king abdullah (of saudi) attested to this. The muslims should understand that there are many religions, culture, races in the whole world which will never bow to Islamic crave for global dominace. The sooner the arabs\muslims learn to live peacefuly with the jews, the safer for the peace of the middle east. But there continous hatred for the jews, as a result of many portions of the koran that motivated their hate, will only increase the suffering of the palestinians\arabs, and there is nothing allah can do about it. 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Muslims Hate Jews? by Unbias: 10:48am On Jul 21, 2014 |
I once opened a thread, Prophet Muhammad and the Jews. The wave that swept NL lately did not return the thread. On that thread, only a Muslim Nairalander was factual that Allah has tagged them enemies and that they remain his enemy for that reason. He even quoted additional verses in the quran to corroborate the ayahs and hadiths I had ealier quoted as justifications for the enmity. Those talking about Islam saving the Jews and history are either intentionally avoiding the truth or trying to discourage the existing feud. It was Muhammad who created this sheer hatred for the Jews because they rejected his prophethood and theology, hence they became serious threath to the proliferation of Islam during its emergence. There are evidences from Islamic trilogy and other Islamic literatures to support this claim. Note that no one has responded to the video. Many apologists know this but will defend the prophet as usual. |
Re: Why Do Muslims Hate Jews? by tbaba1234: 11:02am On Jul 21, 2014 |
Again: Atheists/christians:You hate Jews Muslim: No, we don't, presents facts throughout history Atheists/christians: You must hate jews: you kill them in the end time according to your prophet. Muslim: So we will have a war with the jews in the end times suggests we ' hate' them?? Smh!! Throughout christians have been far more brutal towards jews almost exterminating them, yet they too accuse muslims when Islam actually saved Jewry twice and the jews had their golden ages in muslim lands. This kind of inexplicable hate and lack of reason baffles me. Unfollows thread, 3 Likes |
Re: Why Do Muslims Hate Jews? by vedaxcool(m): 11:25am On Jul 21, 2014 |
mazaje: Yawns! I simply don't know what u are trying to prove, that I hate jews or muslims hate jews? The cleric u keep quoting is simply stating his opinion, I stated mine! The hadith u quoted is simply a prediction about what would happen. The Qur'an called jews pigs? U are simply a waste of my precious time, always read from source rather than ur fatansies and bigot sites! The Qur'an stated those who violated the sabath were turned to pigs, but u would know that if you had the wisdom of studying what u intend to criticise others with! If u have no coherent point to make pls do desist from spamming my mentions! Evidently all hatetheists are atheists but not all atheists are hatheists! 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Muslims Hate Jews? by mazaje(m): 11:41am On Jul 21, 2014 |
vedaxcool: His opinion which he claimed is backed by the koran. . .he is not the only one, you tube is awashed with such videos of muslims clerics preaching hate against the Jews as a religious duty. . . This lady says that the hate of Jews is in their genes and their blood https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5Os4pdjtZ0 This one says only the annihilation of Jews will make muslims happy. . . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWZXips-7uo This one says kill Jews in the name of Islam because they are decendants of apes and pigs according to the koran. . . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0nmUSPbhTk Maybe vexdacool knows more about Islam than these Islamic clerics. . . . |
Re: Why Do Muslims Hate Jews? by vedaxcool(m): 12:40pm On Jul 21, 2014 |
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