EnlightenedSoul:

Earth less than 7,000 years old? Please, there's no excuse for that type of ignorance.

Be reasonable. Take care.

you should enlighten him.
he was reasonable enough to come up with that "calculation"

EnlightenedSoul:

Earth less than 7,000 years old? Please, there's no excuse for that type of ignorance.

Be reasonable. Take care.

from adam to jesus is 4,000 years, form jesus to the apostle churches is 2,000,/3,000years.

malvisguy212: tgirl4real and enlightenedsoul. I observe you girls are avoiding my question, well it Ok, this will be my last post,permit me to derail, thank you.


I have a strong reason we ar living in the last days,God created this world in six days and rest on the seventh day, the question is WHY WILL IT TAKE GOD SIX DAYS TO CREATED THIS WORLD WHEN HE COULD'AV CREATED IT WITHIN A MINUTE? Now, if you calculate from adam to jesus it is 4,000yrs from jesus till today it is 2,000yrs all together is 7000yrs, now 7thousand years is equivalent to 7days because in the book of 2peter3:8 say, a thousand years is a day to God.

If a thousand years is a day to your God, then Jesus is still in the grave. By my estimation, he has roughly one more day. And that's why your holy book can only be rationalized with blind faith. Try to use any kind of sense, and the whole thing falls apart.

shdemidemi:

It all stopped at Paul... Paul was the last person He spoke to. Paul was not alone, he had soldiers and workers like Epaphroditus, Timothy, silas who did not have his kind of experience. They revert to Paul whenever they had issues regarding the faith.

Paul never taught us to wait and listen for our own revelations, he asked us to stay within the confines of what he had taught. Anyone who teaches anything outside what the bible teaches must be accursed. Personal revelations and experiences are not the gospel, they can't substitute nor add to Gods word. God's word is so full and it is sealed, it makes it needless for any personal additions today.

You mean Paul's word lol
PAUL, whom ye ignorantly worship

JesusisLord85:

You mean Paul's word lol
PAUL, whom ye ignorantly worship

Why not Paul? Aren't you yourself taking someone's word for it? That Jesus name you're carrying around, didn't you read about him from some remote author?

Weah96:

If a thousand years is a day to your God, then Jesus is still in the grave. By my estimation, he has roughly one more day. And that's why your holy book can only be rationalized with blind faith. Try to use any kind of sense, and the whole thing falls apart.

God has chosen the weak thing of this world to wrestling with the mighty, and the foolish thing to put to shame the wise.

You have the choice not to believe me.

malvisguy212: God has chosen the weak thing of this world to wrestling with the mighty, and the foolish thing to put to shame the wise.

You have the choice not to believe me.

What else is new? Incoherence is your playground.

malvisguy212: from adam to jesus is 4,000 years, form jesus to the apostle churches is 2,000,/3,000years.

The oldest dinosaur fossils discovered are millions of years old. The oldest human remains are roughly 400,000 years old.

Your calculations are way off. There's no way earth is in it's thousands, though I'm sure she's flattered

Tgirl4real:


Ha!!! Wait for me ke?

If you search well, you will find jor. Will see if I can get a link or 2.

Thanks.

Hi Tgirl. How about those links?

Weah96:

Why not Paul? Aren't you yourself taking someone's word for it? That Jesus name you're carrying around, didn't you read about him from some remote author?

I follow the words of the Most High God.

If I read the words of Yahshua or Paul and interpreted anything they said to contradict the words of the Most High, spoken via Moses and the Prophets, then:
1) It would mean Jesus was not the prophesied Messiah (Jesus indeed kept the Law, and fitted all the prophecies about him. The Christians believe he came to start a new religion. Funny, the prophets didn't see that coming).
2) It would have made Paul a false teacher.

But they are ok with this, even given their interpretations of pails letters (which were only letters at the time, not scripture). As long as they can celebrate pagan holidays, eat pork and catfish, and do as they like, but somehow, still be considered 'saved'. LOL.

EnlightenedSoul:
There's no way earth is in it's thousands, though I'm sure she's flattered

LOL.

JesusisLord85:

I follow the words of the Most High God.

If I read the words of Yahshua or Paul and interpreted anything they said to contradict the words of the Most High, spoken via Moses and the Prophets

Moses and the Prophets are not the most high. If Paul cannot be trusted, what makes you think that Moses can? Were they not both mammals?

JesusisLord85:

You mean Paul's word lol
PAUL, whom ye ignorantly worship

If it's Paul's word, why is it part.of Scriptures?

ihedinobi2:
Hi Tgirl. How about those links?

This is a real nice one, addressing the topic generally.

http://www.crosswalk.com/faith/spiritual-life/8-ways-god-speaks-to-us-today.html?ps=0


The 2 below are more from an apologetic angle:

http://www.gty.org/resources/articles/a366/does-god-still-give-revelation

http://www.donotbesurprised.com/2013/08/god-speaks-but-how.html

I await your feedback.

Thanks.

From a funny angle:

http://www.desiringgod.org/articles/the-morning-i-heard-the-voice-of-god

Weah96:

Moses and the Prophets are not the most high. If Paul cannot be trusted, what makes you think that Moses can? Were they not both mammals?

Luke 16:30-31 "And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent. 31 And he [Abraham] said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

Mark 10:17-19 "17 And when he was gone forth into the way, there came one running, and kneeled to him, and asked him, Good Master, what shall I do that I may inherit eternal life? 18 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God. 19 Thou knowest the commandments,..."

Moses and the prophets are God's word. The Law was given by the Most High through Moses, and He spoke through the prophets.

John 2:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God".

Shalom

Tgirl4real:

If it's Paul's word, why is it part.of Scriptures?

Why are Paul's letters in the bible?

JesusisLord85:

Why are Paul's letters in the bible?

Is DAT not d same question I asked you?

Tgirl4real:


Is DAT not d same question I asked you?

Yes, I wanted to make sure that is what you are asking me.

Ok, did God decide which of the many books would make the final 66 these devils came up with? Or was it man?

I have read Enoch. I like it. Nothing dodgy there.

I am reading Maccabbees. So far, so good.

Shalom

What's upp

Tgirl4real:


Is DAT not d same question I asked you?

Weah96: ^^^I've seen more convincing arguments of his return, and he hasn't shown up yet. LOL.

enlightensoul, tgirl4real and weah96.

the scripture make it clear that no one
know the day or the hour of christ
return.but the bible dos say that we can
know the time and season surrounding
his comin,you may be thinkin the usual
sayin like... So because disease and immorality are running rampant and
because there are wars and rumors of
war and we have had some few
earthquake that jesus is comin soon ?
Yeah we'av heard all that before. But
after studying the bible I discover somtin interesting about the end of days. Pleas
read.
my theory about the end of days started
when I read a verse in isaiah 46. It say
that God declare the end from the
beginning. A similar verse was in isaiah48. This lead me to the creation
story in the book of genesis. As I study
the first chapter, I began to wonder, WHY
IT TOOK GOD SIX DAYS TO CREATE THIS
WORLD AND REST ON THE SEVENTH
DAY,WHY WOULD HE TAKE SIX DAYS WHEN HE COULD HAVE CREATED THE
WORLD IN ONE SECOND, IN THE BLINK OF
AN EYE?I started studying the word"day"
and days" I discover some interesting
passages that related to this. Maby God is
indicating to us how much time man would have on earth.this is the point, the
bible especially the old testament is full
of foreshadowing. An event that actually
happen in history, also picture somtin
comin in the future. An example is the
sacrifice of abraham and isaac, that even actually happen,and it was also a picture
of what God will do to his son jesus on
the cross as an offering for the sin of the
world. Now why will God take SIX days
to create the world? Is this a picture of
somtin we need to know? I think it is. In 2peter 3:8, the context was refferin to
the second comin of jesus christ,the bible
say that a one day with they Lord is as a
thousand years and a thousand year is
like a day. Psalm 90. A thousand year in
God sight is like yesterday.so could it be that the six days of creation were yo
indicate to us the time man will spend on
this earth would be about six thousand
years?...the seventh day of rest picturing
the thousand years millennia reign, when
christ come back to set up is kingdom, the time of righteousness and peace.bible
scholar have calculate from the first man
adam to the first comin of christ to be
4000years,if that is the case then we are
could have been living at the end of what
the new testament called THE LAST DAYS.now this is the issue.God deal with
time in the bible, when God measure
time He dose so by seven.....
1.God created the world in seven days,
with the seven day bein for REST.
2according to the old testament law,the jew were commanded to REST every
SEVEN days.
3.the seventh week after the passover,
they celebrated a big feast of REST.
4.the seventh month of were perhaps the
most important when they celebrated three of there biggest feast of REST.
5.every seventh year was the year of
REST for the land.
6.every 49years ,seven times seven, they
celebrated the year of jubilee, which is a
year of REST for the land and liberty for the people.so it made perfect sense to me
that God would set up a seven thousand
year period for man to occupy the earth,
with the last thousand year being a time
of REST when jesus come back to set up
his earthly kingdom, as spoken in revelation20.I was right when I say God
deal with time he dos so by seven.the
second coming of christ is the most
important day in God's calendar , he want
us yo know the timing .
Hose was a prophet in the old testament, in verse 6 of that book , hosea talk about
isreal, God chosen nation, who was
always rejecting God.the nation was goin
to be torn apart, but verse two say" after
two days will he revive us , the third day
he will raise us up and the we shall live in his sight"what dos this mean? When
jesus come isreal reject him as there
messiah , so God scatter the nation of
isreal all over the world. For 1900 years
there is no nation of isreal but God say
after two days[ or 2000yrs] I will revive thee, and you, isreal will live in my sight:
the scatter isreal became a nation in the
year 1948.this is important because God
is reviving the nation of isreal and they
are about to live in his sight when jesus
come back to set up his earthly kingdom , have you ever meet a cannanite ? How
about the amorite? No because these are
isreal enemies and God did not preserve
them, the jew have been preserve
because they are God chosen people and
he must fulfill and keep his promise he made to them but the jew are still
rejecting christ, for how long?after two
days [or 2000years] I will revive thee and
the third day you shall live in my sight.
The second coming event are about to
begin, I see the same foreshadowing in exodus 19:11. God told isreal to clean up
and wait for two days, the third day I'm
comin down in the sight of they nation.
In john 11. Lazarus died a jew, jesus
waited for two days before he raise him
from death, this is a picture of how God is about to turn his back from isreal for the
next two thousand years [or two days]
and start reach out for the rest of the
world through the new testament church
which he did. God dint just throw this
stuff in the bible to wast space ,maby am right , maby God is tryin to tell us
somtin.in matthew17:1 say that jesus
tool peter, james and john up to the
mountain, apart from the rest, did the
thing we want to know happen up there?
Yes.jesus transfigured before them and the are giving a preview of his second
coming glory, now the first word of the
verse was "after six days" why did God
throw this in? To was space? Or is God
tryin to tell us somtin that we need to
know?note:the time from adam to jesus is 4,000years[4days] the time of the
church period is two thousand years
[2days] so could this mean after 6000yrs
[6days] God will revive isreal and fulfill
his promise he made to them? Hmmm am
I reading to much . If am right, BROTHERS WE ARE LIVING IN THE END OF DAYS.
REPENT. THANK YOU.

^^^^ Rubbish a day is a day, otherwise Jesus is still maggot food. If a day was a thousand years, then the resurrection of Jesus is yet to come. Stop trying to rationalise the bible. You'll just end up confusing yourself. Do you think it's a coincidence that reason and logic are considered foolishness by the bible? That book is to be taken on blind empty faith. No sense required, not even common sense.

Weah96: ^^^^ Rubbish a day is a day, otherwise Jesus is still maggot food. If a day was a thousand years, then the resurrection of Jesus is yet to come. Stop trying to rationalise the bible. You'll just end up confusing yourself. Do you think it's a coincidence that reason and logic are considered foolishness by the bible? That book is to be taken on blind empty faith. No sense required, not even common sense.

God is outside time, anyway it your choice to believe or not.

malvisguy212: enlightensoul, tgirl4real and weah96.
.

Thanks.

malvisguy212: enlightensoul, tgirl4real and weah96.
.

hmmmm....

Tgirl4real:

Thanks.

you are welcome,we should try to know the truth IN the bible, there are many things God want us to understand.

malvisguy212: God is outside time

Which kan answer is dis? Is Jesus still in the grave or not? Oh, let me guess. He's doing that Doctor WHO thing, he's both in the grave and out of it at the same time.

Weah96:

Which kan answer is dis? Is Jesus still in the grave or not? Oh, let me guess. He's doing that Doctor WHO thing, he's both in the grave and out of it at the same time.

revelation say He was dead and was alive and liveth forever more.

malvisguy212: revelation say He was dead and was alive and liveth forever more.

Like I said, Doctor WHO.

malvisguy212: enlightensoul, tgirl4real and weah96.

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The second coming event are about to begin, I see the same foreshadowing in exodus 19:11.
God told isreal to clean up and wait for two days, the third day I'm comin down in the sight of they nation.
In john 11. Lazarus died a jew, jesus waited for two days before he raise him from death,
this is a picture of how God is about to turn his back from isreal for the next two thousand years [or two days] and start reach out for the rest of the world through the new testament church which he did.
God dint just throw this stuff in the bible to wast space , maby am right , maby God is tryin to tell us somtin.

in matthew17:1 say that jesus tool peter, james and john up to the mountain, apart from the rest, did the thing we want to know happen up there?
Yes. jesus transfigured before them and the are giving a preview of his second coming glory, now the first word of the verse was "after six days"
why did God throw this in? To was space? Or is God tryin to tell us somtin that we need to know?
note:the time from adam to jesus is 4,000years[4days]
the time of the church period is two thousand years[2days]
so could this mean after 6000yrs[6days] God will revive isreal and fulfill his promise he made to them?
Hmmm am I reading to much .
If am right, BROTHERS WE ARE LIVING IN THE END OF DAYS.REPENT. THANK YOU.

malvisguy212, we all take milk from other cows and then churn our own butter out of them
but when so much milk is taken from one place and/or just one cow,
then courtesy demands that the butter churned out should've appropriately be credited to the cow's milk it was made from

All was going well, until eisegesis was done on John 11 and the attempt made to reel in Lazarus into the "two thousand years [or two days]"
You might not be able to explain this as it was originally Mr. Clayton G's write up but can you try and throw more light on the following verses:

²(This Mary, whose brother Lazarus now lay sick, was the same one who poured perfume on the Lord and wiped his feet with her hair.)
³So the sisters sent word to Jesus, “Lord, the one you love is sick.”

⁶So when he heard that Lazarus was sick, he stayed where he was two more days,
⁷and then he said to his disciples, “Let us go back to Judea.”
⁸“But Rabbi,” they said, “a short while ago the Jews there tried to stone you, and yet you are going back?”
⁹Jesus answered, “Are there not twelve hours of daylight? Anyone who walks in the daytime will not stumble, for they see by this world’s light.
¹⁰It is when a person walks at night that they stumble, for they have no light.”
¹¹After he had said this, he went on to tell them, “Our friend Lazarus has fallen asleep; but I am going there to wake him up.”
¹²His disciples replied, “Lord, if he sleeps, he will get better.”
¹³Jesus had been speaking of his death, but his disciples thought he meant natural sleep.
¹⁴So then he told them plainly, “Lazarus is dead

¹⁷On his arrival, Jesus found that Lazarus had already been in the tomb for four days.
- John 11: 2-3, 6-14 and 17 NIV

It was the two days in your post that caught my eyes, so noting the bold highlights, for the benefit of readers, learning, throw some light on the seemingly contradiction or inconsistency of Lazarus' death
- When? Was it two days or four days?
- Explain the discrepancy in the "two days" and "four days" time of death
To assist in your exegesis, I have provided the following bullet points:

• Lazarus' sisters sent out message to Jesus
• Jesus got message, then told His disciples that Lazarus was sleeping (i.e. he was dead),
He then stayed two days before heading to Lazarus's sisters'
• Jesus on getting to Lazarus' sisters, got to know that Lazarus was dead four days.

BabaGnoni:
malvisguy212, we all take milk from other cows and then churn our own butter out of them
but when so much milk is taken from one place and/or just one cow,
then courtesy demands that the butter churned out should've appropriately be credited to the cow's milk it was made from

All was going well, until eisegesis was done on John 11 and the attempt made to reel in Lazarus into the "two thousand years [or two days]"
You might not be able to explain this as it was originally Mr. Clayton G's write up but can you try and throw more light on the following verses:

²(This Mary, whose brother Lazarus now lay sick, was the same one who poured perfume on the Lord and wiped his feet with her hair.)
³So the sisters sent word to Jesus, “Lord, the one you love is sick.”

⁶So when he heard that Lazarus was sick, he stayed where he was two more days,
⁷and then he said to his disciples, “Let us go back to Judea.”
⁸“But Rabbi,” they said, “a short while ago the Jews there tried to stone you, and yet you are going back?”
⁹Jesus answered, “Are there not twelve hours of daylight? Anyone who walks in the daytime will not stumble, for they see by this world’s light.
¹⁰It is when a person walks at night that they stumble, for they have no light.”
¹¹After he had said this, he went on to tell them, “Our friend Lazarus has fallen asleep; but I am going there to wake him up.”
¹²His disciples replied, “Lord, if he sleeps, he will get better.”
¹³Jesus had been speaking of his death, but his disciples thought he meant natural sleep.
¹⁴So then he told them plainly, “Lazarus is dead

¹⁷On his arrival, Jesus found that Lazarus had already been in the tomb for four days.
- John 11: 2-3, 6-14 and 17 NIV

It was the two days in your post that caught my eyes, so noting the bold highlights, for the benefit of readers, learning, throw some light on the seemingly contradiction or inconsistency of Lazarus' death
- When? Was it two days or four days?
- Explain the discrepancy in the "two days" and "four days" time of death
To assist in your exegesis, I have provided the following bullet points:

• Lazarus' sisters sent out message to Jesus
• Jesus got message, then told His disciples that Lazarus was sleeping (i.e. he was dead),
He then stayed two days before heading to Lazarus's sisters'
• Jesus on getting to Lazarus' sisters, got to know that Lazarus was dead four days.

jesus always speak in parables,the new testament is like a foreshadowing event of things that will happen nowadays,bible dint just say two days to wast space, jesus himself know what he was doin,this is the point LAZARUS HAS BEEN DEAD FOR FOUR DAYS, BUT JESUS WAITED FOR FOR TWO DAYS,WHY?ABI JESUS DINT CARE FOR LAZARUS?NO , HE KNOW WHAT HE WAS DOIN, HE WAS TRYIN TO TELL US SOMTIN.

malvisguy212: jesus always speak in parables,the new testament is like a foreshadowing event of things that will happen nowadays,bible dint just say two days to wast space, jesus himself know what he was doin,this is the point LAZARUS HAS BEEN DEAD FOR FOUR DAYS, BUT JESUS WAITED FOR FOR TWO DAYS,WHY?ABI JESUS DINT CARE FOR LAZARUS?NO , HE KNOW WHAT HE WAS DOIN, HE WAS TRYIN TO TELL US SOMTIN.

^^^
LAZARUS was already dead when the message that the one He lived is sick got to Him
- we know this because He told His disciples so on the day He got the message.
Just admit you're unable to explain the 2 days and 4 days thing or better still just put the original site URL you lifted your post from