Doctors Urge Fg To Implement Ppp Scheme In Hospitals
ABUJA - Some members of Nigeria Medical Association (NMA) have urged the Federal Government to implement the Public-Private-Partnerships (PPP) scheme in government hospitals to improve quality of health care delivery in the country.

The doctors, who are part of the ongoing nationwide strike called by NMA, spoke to the newsmen in Abuja.They said that PPP would stabilise activities in the hospitals and increase efficiency in service delivery. One of the medical doctors, Dr Titus Ibekwe, who is the National Vice President of NMA, said that PPP would help to develop the health sector.“In my opinion, PPP is a welcomed development; this is because it will definitely make services rendered in hospitals more efficient and effective.“You find PPP in developed countries; the sections in the hospitals that generate money such as the laboratories and pharmacies should be run by the private sector, Then, the health sector will be developed, ’’ Ibekwe said.On his part, Dr Jibril Abdullahi, the National President of the Association of Resident Doctors (NARD), said that PPP could work if it was implemented partially.“It is an alternative that can work provided it is done partially, while keeping in mind the importance of the tertiary hospitals in the training of health care workers at both undergraduate and postgraduate levels,” he said.According to Abdullahi, the government can start with the concession of laboratories, and maybe, the pharmacy unit that are not direct points of clinical consultation and procedures.

He pointed out that Nigerians needed a health care system devoid of politics.In his contribution, the National President of the Guild of Medical Directors (GMD), Dr Tony Phillips, said “PPP is inevitable and has to be achieved in Nigeria.“It is important because it has been realised that hospitals cannot survive without the private sector.“This is because the private sector is more organised, focused and result oriented, so the government must align with the private sector to achieve quality health care delivery in hospitals.’’

Without doubt PPP is the way to go

Nigerian greedy and unthinking physicians on the brink!Yesterday u canvassed for total privatization,today its PPP,what exactly do you want?or more appropriately,when exactly will you stop blaming others for what your greed,selfishness and delisional self-importance has led you?For your info.,all such schemes will be firmly resisted n fought to a standstill.if privatzation is d new magic wand for the health sector,it is to b total i.e all depts!Conversely,u want PPP?it has to start from d consulting room,down to d theatre n all other depts shikena.Anything short of dis is an open invitation to anarchy(borrowng d words of NMA).I wonder wen u guys will stop thing that d hospital was made solely for u,hence,every other pesrons n groups thr must b brought to subjection n servitude n I wondey why NMA has been foisted with leadership liabilities for so long,aint thr decent members that can pilot d fast-becoming hopeless association?Sigh!make I stop here for now,oya,attack me.

Joenz: Nigerian greedy and unthinking physicians on the brink!Yesterday u canvassed for total privatization,today its PPP,what exactly do you want?or more appropriately,when exactly will you stop blaming others for what your greed,selfishness and delisional self-importance has led you?For your info.,all such schemes will be firmly resisted n fought to a standstill.if privatzation is d new magic wand for the health sector,it is to b total i.e all depts!Conversely,u want PPP?it has to start from d consulting room,down to d theatre n all other depts shikena.Anything short of dis is an open invitation to anarchy(borrowng d words of NMA).I wonder wen u guys will stop thing that d hospital was made solely for u,hence,every other pesrons n groups thr must b brought to subjection n servitude n I wondey why NMA has been foisted with leadership liabilities for so long,aint thr decent members that can pilot d fast-becoming hopeless association?Sigh!make I stop here for now,oya,attack me.

there is different between services and products. laboratories and pharmacy sell products. doctors sell services. professional services are difficult to quantify and measure.

Dz NMA pple sef. yesterday u were saying privatisation today u are saying PPP. (PPP ko PSP ni). u guys dont even know wat u want. if there's any privatization then it must be total privatisation of evry department in d hospital.
Anyway let's watch how dz season film go end.

sogodihno: Dz NMA pple sef. yesterday u were saying privatisation today u are saying PPP. (PPP ko PSP ni). u guys dont even know wat u want. if there's any privatization then it must be total privatisation of evry department in d hospital.
Anyway let's watch how dz season film go end.

it wouldn't matter if it turns out to be partial or total privatization. It would interest u to know that privatization of clinics and theatre services would benefit the doctors and nurses more because they would b paid per there input.. Remember wat they offer are services not products like the lab or the pharmacy

Joenz: Nigerian greedy and unthinking physicians on the brink!Yesterday u canvassed for total privatization,today its PPP,what exactly do you want?or more appropriately,when exactly will you stop blaming others for what your greed,selfishness and delisional self-importance has led you?For your info.,all such schemes will be firmly resisted n fought to a standstill.if privatzation is d new magic wand for the health sector,it is to b total i.e all depts!Conversely,u want PPP?it has to start from d consulting room,down to d theatre n all other depts shikena.Anything short of dis is an open invitation to anarchy(borrowng d words of NMA).I wonder wen u guys will stop thing that d hospital was made solely for u,hence,every other pesrons n groups thr must b brought to subjection n servitude n I wondey why NMA has been foisted with leadership liabilities for so long,aint thr decent members that can pilot d fast-becoming hopeless association?Sigh!make I stop here for now,oya,attack me.

PPP is already operational in hospitals in some states. Some eastern state teachin hospitals already Hv PPP , in the west, a very good example of PPP is the lagos state university teaching hospital laboratory ( it is called BT diagnostics) the pharmacy in LASUTH is also under PPP , the state of the art ICU is under PPP ,the new renal centre recently opened in gbagada local government is under public private partnership (PPP)!!!!

thepathologist:

there is different between services and products. laboratories and pharmacy sell products. doctors sell services. professional services are difficult to quantify and measure.

So to you,pharmacy starts n ends with drug dispensing right?hence,all they do is sell products and the laboratory,biko which products do they sell in the laboratories.You see if I were you,I will limit myself to what I knw and join ma brother Zeus to tenaciously push for the privatization of the wards since I'm sure it will benefit the physicians a whole lot more.Physicians,leave other professionals alone to determine their individual fate and face yours.if privatization is d new toga,ask for the privatization of your dept n leave others to determine what happen to theirs.The earlier u realise that d hospital isn't the physicians estate whr everything must b structured to suit u,the better for the sector as a whole.

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What does the pharmacy in the hospital do apart from what you listed. Please educate us.

armadeo:
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What does the pharmacy in the hospital do apart from what you listed. Please educate us.

You don't judge all by your immediate environment friend but more importantly,call for the privatization of ur department n let others decide what happens to theirs.

Joenz: So to you,pharmacy starts n ends with drug dispensing right?hence,all they do is sell products and the laboratory,biko which products do they sell in the laboratories.You see if I were you,I will limit myself to what I knw and join ma brother Zeus to tenaciously push for the privatization of the wards since I'm sure it will benefit the physicians a whole lot more.Physicians,leave other professionals alone to determine their individual fate and face yours.if privatization is d new toga,ask for the privatization of your dept n leave others to determine what happen to theirs.The earlier u realise that d hospital isn't the physicians estate whr everything must b structured to suit u,the better for the sector as a whole.

as long as it continues to be called an HOSPITAL and not a pharmacy,laboratory or a gymnasium, then d medical doctor would continue to b at the forefront of care. Allied health workers are meant to assist the doctor just like a court bailiff would a judge.... If the medical team becomes conviced that it would function better if the people meant to be of assistance are privatized Ofcourse govt would heed to that.

Joenz: You don't judge all by your immediate environment friend but more importantly,call for the privatization of ur department n let others decide what happens to theirs.

I didn't ask about privatisation of departments I asked what a pharmacy does apart from what you initially stated. Educate us.

Only Jonathan's reelection bid is stopping him from privatising d entire sector, nma and johesu should chill till he gets reelected

armadeo:


I didn't ask about privatisation of departments I asked what a pharmacy does apart from what you initially stated. Educate us.

And u guys are part of those people dt limited hospital pharmacy to just dispensing. if pharmacist want to counsel d patient concernin d drug therapy, use etc. U are d one dt wil complain dt they A taking ur patients away frm u. no wonder doctor of pharmacy has not see d light of d day.
Nigerian ah! SMH

sogodihno:
And u guys are part of those people dt limited hospital pharmacy to just dispensing. if pharmacist want to counsel d patient concernin d drug therapy, use etc. U are d one dt wil complain dt they A taking ur patients away frm u. no wonder doctor of pharmacy has not see d light of d day.
Nigerian ah! SMH

So all in all. The pharmacist dispenses medication or do you have something else to add?

armadeo:


So all in all. The pharmacist dispenses medication or do you have something else to add?

In hospital? yes for now. but dont wori d change is inevitable. u wil soon realize dt nobody owns d patient.
Let's just wait and see. and let's finish dz NMA vs JOHESU vs FG season film first

I dont like this....

Pharmacists should PLEASE look at what their mates are doing outside nigeria, some are making COOL CASH in BIG pharmaceutical companies, and they are here limiting themselves to dispensing drugs... Choooi, nigeria!!!

But i like the PPP thingy tho....

sogodihno:
In hospital? yes for now. but dont wori d change is inevitable. u wil soon realize dt nobody owns d patient.
Let's just wait and see. and let's finish dz NMA vs JOHESU vs FG season film first

Nobody spoke about patient. What we are talking about is the function in the hospital.

Lagusta: I dont like this....

Pharmacists should PLEASE look at what their mates are doing outside nigeria, some are making COOL CASH in BIG pharmaceutical companies, and they are here limiting themselves to dispensing drugs... Choooi, nigeria!!!

But i like the PPP thingy tho....

PPP will be interesting. It would affect everybody in the sector. From Drs to nurses to pharmacist nobody would go unscathed.

If it begins sectionally the govt will privatise areas which are product intensive I.e sales so pharmacy and labs would be affected first as individuals will be willing to invest in these areas to reap profits of course there would be massive reduction in staff strength and possibly salary and increase in work hours.

The wards may also be privatised, clinic would be difficult as would physiotherapy, theaters. The entire records, cleaning, ambulance services light etc will all go private.

The people who would be least affected would be the drs, nurses, physiotherapist( may be affected though as private physiotherapy units could also be placed in the hospital).

Many people would lose their jobs.

Finally the person who would suffer the most would be patients because health service would no longer be a govt initiative but driven by capitalism which is profit oriented.

Patients would be unable to pay for services and death rate would soar. A sad day such will be but that may just be where we are heading.

armadeo:

Finally the person who would suffer the most would be patients because health service would no longer be a govt initiative but driven by capitalism which is profit oriented.

Patients would be unable to pay for services and death rate would soar. A sad day such will be but that may just be where we are heading.

i agree with you except what is quoted above...

This is where PRIVATE HEALTH INSURANCE COMPANIES will spring up!!! This is EXACTLY what they do in the USA; health care is terribly expensive, but health insurance covers most, if not all their bills...

And its quite profitable too

Lagusta:

i agree with you except what is quoted above...

This is where PRIVATE HEALTH INSURANCE COMPANIES will spring up!!! This is EXACTLY what they do in the USA; health care is terribly expensive, but health insurance covers most, if not all their bills...

And its quite profitable too

Maybe but it would take a very long time for Nigerians to key into insurance. The average Nigerian isn't interested in health issues until he's unhealthy, besides there are a myriad of people for him to approach I.e native doctors, chemists, miracle workers before he thinks of the medics.

HMOs are already in existence and they don't even cover heavily except the company pays a lot. How does the man on the street afford insurance?

We are light years away from this but its one step at a time.

It would be an explosion in the healthcare industry.

Lagusta:

i agree with you except what is quoted above...

This is where PRIVATE HEALTH INSURANCE COMPANIES will spring up!!! This is EXACTLY what they do in the USA; health care is terribly expensive, but health insurance covers most, if not all their bills...

And its quite profitable too

R

sogodihno:
And u guys are part of those people dt limited hospital pharmacy to just dispensing. if pharmacist want to counsel d patient concernin d drug therapy, use etc. U are d one dt wil complain dt they A taking ur patients away frm u. no wonder doctor of pharmacy has not see d light of d day.
Nigerian ah! SMH

while dispensing why don't u tell them all u think they need to know about the medication at the counter?

armadeo:


PPP will be interesting. It would affect everybody in the sector. From Drs to nurses to pharmacist nobody would go unscathed.

If it begins sectionally the govt will privatise areas which are product intensive I.e sales so pharmacy and labs would be affected first as individuals will be willing to invest in these areas to reap profits of course there would be massive reduction in staff strength and possibly salary and increase in work hours.

The wards may also be privatised, clinic would be difficult as would physiotherapy, theaters. The entire records, cleaning, ambulance services light etc will all go private.

The people who would be least affected would be the drs, nurses, physiotherapist( may be affected though as private physiotherapy units could also be placed in the hospital).

Many people would lose their jobs.

Finally the person who would suffer the most would be patients because health service would no longer be a govt initiative but driven by capitalism which is profit oriented.

Patients would be unable to pay for services and death rate would soar. A sad day such will be but that may just be where we are heading.

The biggest problem here is that healthcare is expensive business.

And the FG does not fund healthcare adequately in Nigeria.

That is why all the professionals feel they are not adequately remunerated and patients feel they are not getting good care. Not to talk of the mortality rates across board.

For things to get better, healthcare has to be funded. But the money has to come from somewhere, or else, nothing will ever change.

If the FG can't do it, let us give the private sector a chance. There will be competition for the huge Nigerian market and things will definitely get better.