Re: Secret Serum Likely Saved Ebola Patients, CNN by hansibone(m): 2:38pm On Aug 05, 2014 |
9jawear:
you are the one who should get braind and have no idea of what went into the planting of European Colonies in Aurstralia, Africa and the Americas (North, South and Central America) -the Unclad barbarity inleashed gainst the MOSTLY 'Black' indegenes, you are MOST likely to see any text that says 'HIV/AIDS and EBOLA are intentionally made biological weapons to kill people' as senseless and silly conspiracy theory. However that does not justify/legitimise your ignorance of history but exposes your UNRECEPTIVENESS to Knowledge and truth. Not far from now in Guatamela AMERICANS intentionally spread Syphillis and others. Not far from now NIGERIAN kids were used as guinea pigs by Western Pharmaceuticl giant....If I come to learn THAT MAN Molested my elder sister to death I AM JUSTIFIED to think his grandchildren playing behind my backyard have the tendency and capability to come molest my dogs and daughters! This does not make me Paranoid! It only makes me WISE youve made some others understand more..... kudos and thanks for READING and making us AFRICANS not look stupid with regards to WORLD ACTIVITIES.... |
Re: Secret Serum Likely Saved Ebola Patients, CNN by emmansy(m): 2:40pm On Aug 05, 2014 |
dhammyg: CONGO IS IN *CENTRAL* AFRICA,U SAID IT WAS A VILLAGE IN *WEST* AFRICA![wink](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/wink.png) THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE ![tongue](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/tongue.png) Ok, noted! Prof. Dhammyg |
Re: Secret Serum Likely Saved Ebola Patients, CNN by Nobody: 2:40pm On Aug 05, 2014 |
hansibone:
Have you read about how America was conquered? go read about it extensively then you will understand the power of biological weapon way back as the 16th century....
the mutated virus youve been mentioning all came into existence when?
and now lets define MUTATION:-
"In genetics, a mutation is a change of the nucleotide sequence of the genome of an organism, virus, or extrachromosomal genetic element. Mutations result from unrepaired damage to DNA or to RNA genomes (typically caused by radiation or chemical mutagens), errors in the process of replication, or from the insertion or deletion of segments of DNA by mobile genetic elements.[1][2][3] Mutations may or may not produce discernible changes in the observable characteristics (phenotype) of an organism. Mutations play a part in both normal and abnormal biological processes including: evolution, cancer, and the development of the immune system." Coined from WIKIPEDIA
i highlighted some text for you to understudy yourself....
i think its better we make use of words we understand and know.....
lets go back to the flu virus you mentioned, are you AWARE OF THE BLACK DEATH IN EUROPE? go read about it...
lets get ourselves educated and prepared for global domination by some people....
i push blame on anyone who wants to rule the world through any means.... why create a virus just to sell vaccines..... and you say your education power is low... yeah i know its low so lets go kill them stupid and evil leaders.... if youve got the balls to join in the struggle of making AFRICA great..
do you all remember the avian flu.... lol.... till today the asian poultry market has not recovered from it y? you try to make chickens grow faster than the normal way.... What you forgot to mention was how viruses mutate. Viruses may get mutated 1.In the human/animal cell as it replicates(most likely how Ebola came into origin) 2.By artificial means.(which is how most of the vaccines for viral disease you so trustingly take are derived). (And even then Ebola is not a very good weapon....it isn't airborne....Plus...it induces a varying immune response in the body...if your body's immune response to Ebola is Immunoglobin M based.....you survive.). As for the origins of viruses...from WikiPedia... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VirusRegressive hypothesis Viruses may have once been small cells that parasitised larger cells. Over time, genes not required by their parasitism were lost. The bacteria rickettsia and chlamydia are living cells that, like viruses, can reproduce only inside host cells. They lend support to this hypothesis, as their dependence on parasitism is likely to have caused the loss of genes that enabled them to survive outside a cell. This is also called the degeneracy hypothesis,[38][39] or reduction hypothesis.[40]
Cellular origin hypothesis Some viruses may have evolved from bits of DNA or RNA that "escaped" from the genes of a larger organism. The escaped DNA could have come from plasmids (pieces of naked DNA that can move between cells) or transposons (molecules of DNA that replicate and move around to different positions within the genes of the cell).[41] Once called "jumping genes", transposons are examples of mobile genetic elements and could be the origin of some viruses. They were discovered in maize by Barbara McClintock in 1950.[42] This is sometimes called the vagrancy hypothesis,[38][43] or the escape hypothesis.[40]
Coevolution hypothesis This is also called the virus-first hypothesis[40] and proposes that viruses may have evolved from complex molecules of protein and nucleic acid at the same time as cells first appeared on Earth and would have been dependent on cellular life for billions of years. Viroids are molecules of RNA that are not classified as viruses because they lack a protein coat. However, they have characteristics that are common to several viruses and are often called subviral agents.[44] Viroids are important pathogens of plants.[45] They do not code for proteins but interact with the host cell and use the host machinery for their replication.[46] The hepatitis delta virus of humans has an RNA genome similar to viroids but has a protein coat derived from hepatitis B virus and cannot produce one of its own. It is, therefore, a defective virus and cannot replicate without the help of hepatitis B virus.[47] In similar manner, the sputnik virophage is dependent on mimivirus, which infects the protozoan Acanthamoeba castellanii.[48] These viruses, which are dependent on the presence of other virus species in the host cell, are called satellites and may represent evolutionary intermediates of viroids and viruses.[49][50]
In the past, there were problems with all of these hypotheses: the regressive hypothesis did not explain why even the smallest of cellular parasites do not resemble viruses in any way. The escape hypothesis did not explain the complex capsids and other structures on virus particles. The virus-first hypothesis contravened the definition of viruses in that they require host cells.[40] Viruses are now recognised as ancient and as having origins that pre-date the divergence of life into the three domains.[51] This discovery has led modern virologists to reconsider and re-evaluate these three classical hypotheses.[51]
The evidence for an ancestral world of RNA cells[52] and computer analysis of viral and host DNA sequences are giving a better understanding of the evolutionary relationships between different viruses and may help identify the ancestors of modern viruses. To date, such analyses have not proved which of these hypotheses is correct.[52] However, it seems unlikely that all currently known viruses have a common ancestor, and viruses have probably arisen numerous times in the past by one or more mechanisms.[53]
Prions are infectious protein molecules that do not contain DNA or RNA.[54] They can cause infections such as scrapie in sheep, bovine spongiform encephalopathy ("mad cow" disease) in cattle, and chronic wasting disease in deer; in humans, prionic diseases include Kuru, Creutzfeldt–Jakob disease, and Gerstmann–Sträussler–Scheinker syndrome.[55] Although prions are fundamentally different from viruses and viroids, their discovery gives credence to the theory that viruses could have evolved from self-replicating molecules.[56] |
Re: Secret Serum Likely Saved Ebola Patients, CNN by kobonaire(m): 2:41pm On Aug 05, 2014 |
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Re: Secret Serum Likely Saved Ebola Patients, CNN by neohitler(m): 2:42pm On Aug 05, 2014 |
Toaskarity:
No its a disease from us africans who can't do shit in this world but wait for help from white to help our miserable life...
@commenters doubting the cure I bet most of u think others re as lazy as we africans are? No trust me right from the day their citizen was affected was the day their doctors nd pharmaceutical department start working hard to cure it...They don't sit arround lazy crying out about others..like Nigerians crying out about wat happening in isreal/palest btwn these 2 piece of sh..it country don't even see blacks as good smh First time I'm reading a reasonable comment from blacks. Mentally lazy race that's only good at blaming whites and others for their miserable lives. Africa is a disgrace to the world.Go ahead and call me a racist but you know that you people are just the same thing as apes. |
Re: Secret Serum Likely Saved Ebola Patients, CNN by hansibone(m): 2:42pm On Aug 05, 2014 |
tatiana009:
Why should they look for the cure if doesn't affect them. All of you fond of saying GEJ till 2019 call on your own government to find a cure. Let every Country take care of it's own If you want to create a cure for yourself... THEN get ready to be destroyed just as LIBYA was destroyed... GUY GO READ MORE JARE... |
Re: Secret Serum Likely Saved Ebola Patients, CNN by Nobody: 2:44pm On Aug 05, 2014 |
englishmart: but you don edit am? Yes o. I won't book for nothing. |
Re: Secret Serum Likely Saved Ebola Patients, CNN by hansibone(m): 2:44pm On Aug 05, 2014 |
neohitler: First time I'm reading a reasonable comment from blacks. Mentally lazy race that's only good at blaming whites and others for their miserable lives. Africa is a disgrace to the world.Go ahead and call me a racist but you know that you people are just the same thing as apes. thats y it takes nothing out of you to use us as your guinea pigs to test your new toys.... we dont blame you.... we are getting ourselves ready to HANG YOU AND YOUR TYPES from a tree branch..... ![cheesy](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/cheesy.png) |
Re: Secret Serum Likely Saved Ebola Patients, CNN by 50calibre(m): 2:45pm On Aug 05, 2014 |
GAZZUZZ: Over 60 doctors killed by ebola in liberia, currently doctors do not go to work cause of the fear of contacting ebola, there's more to ebola than meets the eye, personally I think it is airborne when the individual is in critical stage, hope the north will not become the new safe haven. Exactly my thoughts, I think this a discovery that's yet to be made. The contagion rate of Ebola is just too high to be by bodily fluids only. Most of the doctors who were infected knew the risks and took necessary precautions, yet it didn't save them. 1 Like |
Re: Secret Serum Likely Saved Ebola Patients, CNN by hansibone(m): 2:46pm On Aug 05, 2014 |
50calibre:
Exactly my thoughts, I think this a discovery that's yet to be made.
The contagion rate of Ebola is just too high to be by bodily fluids only. Most of the doctors who were infected knew the risks and took necessary precautions, yet it didn't save them.
EBOLA is air borne... a research proved it.... kindly read more about it... why do doctors with all their protective gears still get infected? |
Re: Secret Serum Likely Saved Ebola Patients, CNN by Forwetinnah: 2:52pm On Aug 05, 2014 |
Olucheye: Sometimes I'm just here wondering if all this new found incurable diseases found in Africa aren't just ploys to reduce the overthrowing population of Africa just like I have read in some 'Conspiracy Theorists books"
Ebola hits US citizens, and a 'Secret vial" was brought forth from SUB-Zero temperatures to save them. When have they had that vial and how long have they been experimenting with it in their labs??
Have you asked what goes on in those secret Labs of The US How much diseases are cultured in the name of experiment?? Then vials brought out just to save them??
Is anyone reasoning alongside me??
Malaria I watched on some TED show has been wiped out in most continents of the world save Africa.. Yet in a bid to keep the mega pharmaceutical coys alive, Africa stays impoverished and dying every blessed day from bites.
Has anyone sat down to calculate the amount of subsidized meds we keep getting in form of health grants in Africa?? Fam, there's so much conspiracy theory behind all this new found diseases breaking out from Africa. I refuse to believe it's all natural.
Some people still believe the virus came from Monkeys, bats etc, what a joke (Although i still don't understand why people eat such animals). They make the virus, spread their contagious citizens around, then come up with a suppressant or cure that you get from them ALONE... People have called Prof Iwu all kinds of names for suggesting the virus can be cured with bitter kola, no one has taken him seriously but the minute an American specialist in Virology says the same thing, all the medical associations will endorse it, some of us will go as far as planting it in our living rooms. Funny! 2 Likes |
Re: Secret Serum Likely Saved Ebola Patients, CNN by ironsichris(m): 2:53pm On Aug 05, 2014 |
God i pray let this serum work oh |
Re: Secret Serum Likely Saved Ebola Patients, CNN by 50calibre(m): 2:54pm On Aug 05, 2014 |
hansibone:
EBOLA is air borne... a research proved it.... kindly read more about it...
why do doctors with all their protective gears still get infected? Very plausible, and if it's proved conclusively, then we have a potential catastrophe on our hands. This could easily turn into a global epidemic and even threaten our very existence if a cure isn't found. |
Re: Secret Serum Likely Saved Ebola Patients, CNN by mddude(m): 2:54pm On Aug 05, 2014 |
Olucheye: Sometimes I'm just here wondering if all this new found incurable diseases found in Africa aren't just ploys to reduce the overthrowing population of Africa just like I have read in some 'Conspiracy Theorists books"
Ebola hits US citizens, and a 'Secret vial" was brought forth from SUB-Zero temperatures to save them. When have they had that vial and how long have they been experimenting with it in their labs??
Have you asked what goes on in those secret Labs of The US How much diseases are cultured in the name of experiment?? Then vials brought out just to save them??
Is anyone reasoning alongside me??
Malaria I watched on some TED show has been wiped out in most continents of the world save Africa.. Yet in a bid to keep the mega pharmaceutical coys alive, Africa stays impoverished and dying every blessed day from bites.
Has anyone sat down to calculate the amount of subsidized meds we keep getting in form of health grants in Africa?? Fam, there's so much conspiracy theory behind all this new found diseases breaking out from Africa. I refuse to believe it's all natural.
Another conspiracy theory! You just need to understand how research on diseases are done. I hope the problem is not the Nigerian educational system that is messing people here up. Ebola has been ravaging humanity since 1976. That is 38 years ago. In recent years, it is getting stronger. You bet that smaller pharmaceuticals are making a bet on that. Any communicable diseases are a bet for pharmaceutical industry to study and make money. That is how capitalism work. There are thousands of trials and experimental drugs today on different diseases that you had never heard about. These are top secret because you have to protect your intellectual property and until you get a patent on it, someone will steal it. That is the nature of the beast. I think people should come from the rational first before they go into the dark side of conspiracy. Actually, the conspiracy theories being spew here show much of ignorance than a quest for knowledge. 4 Likes |
Re: Secret Serum Likely Saved Ebola Patients, CNN by Forwetinnah: 3:05pm On Aug 05, 2014 |
babseg: Yes that's what I have been thinking.
Zmapp unleashed the ebola in Africa in order to give its drug quick recognition and make quick money.
Pharmaceutical companies do this sometimes "The Gardener" movie comes to mind here |
Re: Secret Serum Likely Saved Ebola Patients, CNN by enigmang: 3:05pm On Aug 05, 2014 |
Toaskarity:
No its a disease from us africans who can't do shit in this world but wait for help from white to help our miserable life...
@commenters doubting the cure I bet most of u think others re as lazy as we africans are? No trust me right from the day their citizen was affected was the day their doctors nd pharmaceutical department start working hard to cure it...They don't sit arround lazy crying out about others..like Nigerians crying out about wat happening in isreal/palest btwn these 2 piece of sh..it country don't even see blacks as good smh But when Prof Iwu makes a claim about whatever progress he has made, we are still the first to call him a fraud..as if the cure must come from "oyibo" |
Re: Secret Serum Likely Saved Ebola Patients, CNN by ElFenomeno1: 3:07pm On Aug 05, 2014 |
kekakuz: Chai. Create virus just to sell anti virusvirus ![embarassed](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/embarassed.png) Can you expantiate on the above... and in case you are planning to ask, i am not dumb. |
Re: Secret Serum Likely Saved Ebola Patients, CNN by lonelydora: 3:07pm On Aug 05, 2014 |
This reminds of a 1995 film titled OUTBREAK directed by Wolfgang Petersen starring Dustin Hoffman,etc. |
Re: Secret Serum Likely Saved Ebola Patients, CNN by neohitler(m): 3:22pm On Aug 05, 2014 |
hansibone:
thats y it takes nothing out of you to use us as your guinea pigs to test your new toys....
we dont blame you.... we are getting ourselves ready to HANG YOU AND YOUR TYPES from a tree branch..... ![cheesy](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/cheesy.png) In your dreams.You will always remain the worst race.Even asians doesn't regard you people as humans.Go back to your tree you little banana eater. |
Re: Secret Serum Likely Saved Ebola Patients, CNN by Knownpal(m): 3:26pm On Aug 05, 2014 |
We haven't receive the full independent at all. |
Re: Secret Serum Likely Saved Ebola Patients, CNN by cbnsteve059: 3:35pm On Aug 05, 2014 |
Nibola virus will be discovered by my research group and sent to the west in six weeks. |
Re: Secret Serum Likely Saved Ebola Patients, CNN by cbnsteve059: 3:36pm On Aug 05, 2014 |
Nibola virus will be manufactured by my research group and sent to the west in six weeks. |
Re: Secret Serum Likely Saved Ebola Patients, CNN by babseg(m): 3:37pm On Aug 05, 2014 |
cbnsteve059: Nibola virus will be discovered by my research group and sent to the west in six weeks. why not develop a deadly virus that will only target BH ![](/faces/huh.png) 1 Like |
Re: Secret Serum Likely Saved Ebola Patients, CNN by hansibone(m): 3:42pm On Aug 05, 2014 |
neohitler: In your dreams.You will always remain the worst race.Even asians doesn't regard you people as humans.Go back to your tree you little banana eater. hahahahahahahahaha i see why your kind cant just leave us alone.... you love the fact that we like bananas and weve got everything you dont have.... dont let me start mentioning.... the reason y your type dislike and hate us so much just to get us extinct and stupid is because YOU FEAR WHAT WE ARE................ 2 Likes |
Re: Secret Serum Likely Saved Ebola Patients, CNN by Nobody: 3:47pm On Aug 05, 2014 |
9jawear:
you are the one who should get braind and have no idea of what went into the planting of European Colonies in Aurstralia, Africa and the Americas (North, South and Central America) -the Unclad barbarity inleashed gainst the MOSTLY 'Black' indegenes, you are MOST likely to see any text that says 'HIV/AIDS and EBOLA are intentionally made biological weapons to kill people' as senseless and silly conspiracy theory. However that does not justify/legitimise your ignorance of history but exposes your UNRECEPTIVENESS to Knowledge and truth. Not far from now in Guatamela AMERICANS intentionally spread Syphillis and others. Not far from now NIGERIAN kids were used as guinea pigs by Western Pharmaceuticl giant....If I come to learn THAT MAN Molested my elder sister to death I AM JUSTIFIED to think his grandchildren playing behind my backyard have the tendency and capability to come molest my dogs and daughters! This does not make me Paranoid! It only makes me WISE Dude wat u sayn? U stil believing d crap dat people r creating virus to kill some set of humans? Dude dese viruses occur in natural form without any one making dem up. When d disease has been discovered esp deadly ones, they get researched upon and antidotes are developed for their cure. Now in situations where deadly viruses occur there is usually a fear that the virus can be weaponised. Meaning dat some people can take samples of d virus and recreate it and used as bioweapons. Also an asian scientist recently recreated the H1N1 influenza dat killed millions in 1918. People are worried that under no cirumstance shud he recreate d virus for wateva reason cos once it leaks out of hez lab weda intentionally or accidentally it will be disastrous. So what m sayn is no one can create virus on hez own wifout having sample of d original virus whch occurred naturally. |
Re: Secret Serum Likely Saved Ebola Patients, CNN by babseg(m): 3:49pm On Aug 05, 2014 |
prettyboi1989: Dude wat u sayn? U stil believing d crap dat people r creating virus to kill some set of humans? Dude dese viruses occur in natural form without any one making dem up. When d disease has been discovered esp deadly ones, they get researched upon and antidotes are developed for their cure. Now in situations where deadly viruses occur there is usually a fear that the virus can be weaponised. Meaning dat some people can take samples of d virus and recreate it and used as bioweapons. Also an asian scientist recently recreated the H1N1 influenza dat killed millions in 1918. People are worried that under no cirumstance shud he recreate d virus for wateva reason cos once it leaks out of hez lab weda intentionally or accidentally it will be disastrous. So what m sayn is no one can create virus on hez own wifout having sample of d original virus whch occurred naturally. Drop it, virus can be developed. |
Re: Secret Serum Likely Saved Ebola Patients, CNN by Swiftboy(m): 3:49pm On Aug 05, 2014 |
Toaskarity:
No its a disease from us africans who can't do shit in this world but wait for help from white to help our miserable life...
@commenters doubting the cure I bet most of u think others re as lazy as we africans are? No trust me right from the day their citizen was affected was the day their doctors nd pharmaceutical department start working hard to cure it...They don't sit arround lazy crying out about others..like Nigerians crying out about wat happening in isreal/palest btwn these 2 piece of sh..it country don't even see blacks as good smh so its the whole of Nigeria that should be scientists? I was expecting you'd say we dont have good leader who'll invest in education so that we'll have people doing research and development. |
Re: Secret Serum Likely Saved Ebola Patients, CNN by Nobody: 3:53pm On Aug 05, 2014 |
9jawear:
you are the one who should get braind and have no idea of what went into the planting of European Colonies in Aurstralia, Africa and the Americas (North, South and Central America) -the Unclad barbarity inleashed gainst the MOSTLY 'Black' indegenes, you are MOST likely to see any text that says 'HIV/AIDS and EBOLA are intentionally made biological weapons to kill people' as senseless and silly conspiracy theory. However that does not justify/legitimise your ignorance of history but exposes your UNRECEPTIVENESS to Knowledge and truth. Not far from now in Guatamela AMERICANS intentionally spread Syphillis and others. Not far from now NIGERIAN kids were used as guinea pigs by Western Pharmaceuticl giant....If I come to learn THAT MAN Molested my elder sister to death I AM JUSTIFIED to think his grandchildren playing behind my backyard have the tendency and capability to come molest my dogs and daughters! This does not make me Paranoid! It only makes me WISE What facts u av abt nigerian kids used as lab rats by pharmaceutical giants. Dude u sayn absolute nonsense. Tryn 2 make ursef look lyk u knw somfin wen all u spewing is jargons, I dnt see anyfin making u wise here, all u sayn r opinions structures from baseless reasoning. |
Re: Secret Serum Likely Saved Ebola Patients, CNN by neohitler(m): 3:56pm On Aug 05, 2014 |
hansibone:
hahahahahahahahaha i see why your kind cant just leave us alone.... you love the fact that we like bananas and weve got everything you dont have.... dont let me start mentioning....
the reason y your type dislike and hate us so much just to get us extinct and stupid is because YOU FEAR WHAT WE ARE................ What are you people known for?oh I forgot rape,famine and killing each other like animals. We still control you and everything in your lands.Your dumb leaders even stash their loots in white man's land.I don't envy monkeys because they belong to the cage. |
Re: Secret Serum Likely Saved Ebola Patients, CNN by Nobody: 3:56pm On Aug 05, 2014 |
babseg:
Drop it, virus can be developed. Ignorant man where did u hear abt a virus being developed or created. Get some brains jare n stop sayn tinz out of d blue |
Re: Secret Serum Likely Saved Ebola Patients, CNN by Nobody: 3:56pm On Aug 05, 2014 |
hansibone:
EBOLA is air borne... a research proved it.... kindly read more about it...
why do doctors with all their protective gears still get infected? The doctors get infected BECAUSE they are in close contact with symptomatic patients....and also because....we are human, we make mistakes, we get careless. The research that ''proves'' the airborne claim is a 2008 study that shows Ebola can be spread from pigs to monkeys. At no time has Ebola been demonstrated to spread between humans by the airborne route...as explained below...(unless you aresitting next to an infected member of the porcine species). *However*, the kicker was not that Ebola is transmitted by air in human outbreaks, but rather that there may be something unique about pig physiology that allows them to generate more infectious aerosols as a general rule–so though aerosols aren’t a transmission route between primates (including humans, as well as non-human primates used experimentally), pigs may be a bigger threat as far as aerosols. Thus, this may be important for transmission of swine influenza and other viruses as well as Ebola.
So unless you’re sitting next to an Ebola-infected pig, seriously, airborne transmission of Ebola viruses isn’t a big concern. (Source)
So,no human to human transmission demonstrated .....yet.(Further research might answer the question..right now all weknow is that it 'may have happened that ebola jumped from wild pigs to humans ). So far...all those who have caught Ebola are infected via close contact via bodily fluids. |
Re: Secret Serum Likely Saved Ebola Patients, CNN by Nobody: 3:58pm On Aug 05, 2014 |
babseg:
Drop it, virus can be developed. If u can't give facts 2 support ur claims den u are sayn nonsense. I dnt speak jst cos I wana speak, my words r backd by facts n nt jst any deductive reasoning. |