Statement suggests dialogue with Islamic representatives may be cut if leaders fail to denounce crimes in name of religion


Displaced people from the minority Yazidi sect flee violence in the Iraqi town of Sinjar. Photograph: Reuters

The Vatican has called on Muslim leaders to denounce unambiguously the persecution of Christians and Yazidis in Iraq – and hinted that it is considering breaking off dialogue with Islamic representatives if they fail to do so.

In a statement on Tuesday, the department in charge of inter-religious dialogue said: "The dramatic situation of the Christians, the Yazidis, and other minority religious and ethnic communities in Iraq demands that religious leaders, and above all Muslim religious leaders, people engaged in inter-religious dialogue and all people of good will take a clear and courageous stance. All must be unanimous in their unambiguous condemnation of these crimes and denounce the invoking of religion to justify them."

In a departure from its customary language in the highly sensitive area of inter-faith relations, the Vatican statement asked: "Otherwise, what credibility will religions, their followers and their leaders, have? What credibility could the inter-religious dialogue [which has been] patiently pursued in recent years have?"

The statement highlighted the fact that the campaign being waged against religious minorities by the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (Isis) threatens to provoke the biggest crisis in Catholic-Muslim relations since 2006 when the then Pope Benedict gave a controversial lecture in Germany in which he quoted a comment critical of Islam.

Up to 100,000 Christians are reported to have fled their homes in Iraq because of the threat posed by Isis.

The Vatican's Pontifical Council for Inter-religious Dialogue said Isis had committed "and was continuing to commit unspeakable criminal acts". To reinforce the point, it listed some of the atrocities for which Isis is reported to have been responsible. They included "the massacre of people solely for reasons of their religious adherence"; "the execrable practice[s] of decapitation, crucifixion and hanging of corpses in public places"; "the choice imposed on Christians and Yazidis between conversion to Islam, payment of a tax (jizya) and exodus"; "the forced expulsion of tens of thousands of people, including children, old people, pregnant women and the sick"; "the abduction of women and girls belonging to the Yazidi and Christian communities as war booty (sabaya)", and "the imposition of the barbaric practice of infibulation".

The statement, issued in French, appeared to be the work of Cardinal Jean-Louis Tauran, the president of the pontifical council and an experienced diplomat who represented the Vatican in Beirut and Damascus. In 2008, he stirred controversy when he accused the then Archbishop of Canterbury, Rowan Williams, of being "mistaken and naive" for saying that some aspects of sharia law in Britain were unavoidable.

Pope Francis gave an early indication of the Vatican's hardening attitude on Sunday when he said the news from Iraq had left him "in dismay and disbelief".

Last Friday, the pope named Cardinal Fernando Filoni as his personal envoy to the region. The cardinal was due to fly out on Tuesday after his departure was postponed on Monday, apparently because of security fears.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/12/vatican-calls-muslim-leaders-condemn-christian-persecution-iraq

The muslim leaders are already condemning the ISIS

Most scholars used the Arabic abbreviation ‘Dā’esh’ in reference to ISIS. ‘Dā’esh’ has been substituted for ISIS for the convenience of the reader.

Sheikh Abu Abdullah al-Masry:

Sheikh al-Masry was previously a member of ISIS but withdrew from them on the basis of their ideology and methodology. He justifies his withdrawal by mentioning ISIS’s defamation of the people of Syria, claiming they were ideologically misguided[11], asking how this could be the case if the Prophet salla Allāhu ‘alayh wasalam said: ”If the people of Shaam corrupt, there is no good in you.” The Sheikh adds:

“The behaviour of many elements in ISIS including leaders consistently is offensive towards the people of Syria and its Mujāhidīn, accusing them of misguidance in belief and action.” He further said: “They moreover repeatedly accuse the people of Syria and the Free Syrian Army (FSA) of disbelief (Kufr).”

The Sheikh also argued that ISIS cannot be theoretically classified as Khawārij although practically this may be the case since they throw around accusations of disbelief without evidence and without understanding the gravity of such a charge. Rather, they may indict someone as a disbeliever merely on the grounds of disagreeing with them. Many of them believe that the people of Syria are originally apostates before creating justifications to this effect, raising weapons in their faces for the most trivial of matters.

Sheikh Abdul Aziz al-Tarifi:

Sheikh al-Tarifi is a Researcher in the Ministry of Islamic Affairs in Riyadh. The Sheikh is deeply erudite in the sciences of Islam, known for his profound ability to retrieve evidences and issue meticulous verdicts. Among his teachers are Sheikh Abdul Aziz b. Abdullah b. Baz, Faqih Abdullah b. Abdul Aziz b. Aqeel and Sheikh Muhammad b. al-Hasan al-Shanqeeti. The sheikh has an extensive number of printed works.[12]

He states:

“It is impermissible for anyone to make his group or party a milestone against which loyalty and hostility are measured, such that he believes that allegiance and leadership should belong to him exclusively. Whoever believes that sole allegiance applies to him (or his party) from amongst all Muslims, then upon him apply the words of Allāh: “Verily, those who divide their religion and break up into sects (all kinds of religious sects), you (O Muhammad salla Allāh ‘alayh wasalam) have no concern in them in the least.”[13]“

The Sheikh added: “it is incorrect that while in a state of fighting and factions that one group should request individual and general allegiance and all that it entails. The allegiance is to the Jihād, constancy, patience and reform. It is incorrect that one individual who leads a particular faction to call himself Amīr al-Mu’minīn (the leader of the Believers), rather he should call himself the leader of the army, the battalion or the battle. General leadership is determined by Shūrā (consultation) between believers, not for an individual to assume. Titles cause exclusivity that can lead to dispute, conflict, strife and evil… [Therefore], participating with ISIS so long as it does not agree with the law of Allāh, independent of it is impermissible.”

Sheikh Sulaiman b. Nasser al-Alwan:

The Sheikh began pursuing knowledge at the age of fifteen. He has written comprehensive explanations of Hadīth books including Sahīh al-Bukhari, Jāmi’ Abū Issa al-Tirmidhi, Sunan Abī Dāwūd, Muwata’ Mālik among many others.[14] He quotes:

“Al-Baghdadi is not the Khalīfah of the Muslims for him to do whatever he pleases; rather he is a leader of a faction. Requesting a pledge of allegiance, killing those who refuse is the action of an aggressor, not the action of a person of good and righteousness.” He further said: “If his own leader does not agree with his actions, how can he expect allegiance from others?”

Sheikh Muhammad b. Salih al-Munajjid:

Sheikh Mohammad al-Munajjid is a renowned scholar of Islam with an array of recognised works (including IslamQA.com). His teachers include Sheikh Abdul Aziz b. Abdullah b. Baz, Sheikh Abdullah b. Abdul Rahman b. Jibreen and Sheikh Abdul Rahman al-Barrak. He is currently the imām of the Mosque of Omar b. Abdul Aziz al-Khobar.[15] He says:

“If a group thinks, for example, that it has established the Islamic state, its leader is the ‘Leader of the Believers’, that he should be listened to and obeyed by everyone, that anyone not under his command has rebelled against him, that [this ‘state’] has the authority to draw up borders, elect leaders over towns, that it has authority over public wealth, petrol, wheat and so on, that others should forcefully submit to them while they can stop whoever they want, that they have the sole authority of establishing Islamic courts and judges and that every court besides theirs is void, it has deviated. This will no doubt create competition over control of regions and eventually lead to a great Fitnah and bloodshed.”
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Sheikh Abu Muhammad al-Maqdisi:

Sheikh Muhammad al-Maqdisi is considered the guide of the ‘Jihadist Salafist’ movement in Jordan. His name is Issam Barqawi but is famously known as Abu Muhammad al-Maqdisi. Far from siding with ISIS,[16] he says in a letter to the Mujāhidīn of Syria after hearing of ISIS and their behaviour with other fighters:

“…and we do not feel ashamed to declare that we are free from the actions of those who dare spill the blood of Muslims whoever they may be.” He further added: “How can you be expected to accommodate all Syrians including Christians and other sects [if you cannot even accommodate other Muslims]?”

Dr. Hassan Saleh b. Hamid:

Dr. Hassan Saleh has a PhD in the principles of Fiqh and Sharī’ah, he is the Director of the Institute of Higher Islamic Education at the Umm Al-Qura University in Makkah and is a Member of the (Islamic) Advisory council.[17] He says:

[i]“No one going to Syria to fight is excused to be part of al-Baghadi’s faction for even a moment… they are a faction that brings Fitnah, whenever they are called to a court for religious arbitration they turn away and whenever a truce is declared, they reignite the war.”[/i

Sheikh Abdul Aziz al-Fawzan:
Sheikh Abdul Aziz al-Fawzan is a member of the Council for Human Rights, a Professor in Islamic Jurisprudence and the Head of the Department of Comparative Jurisprudence at the Islamic University of Imam Muhammad b. Saud in Saudi Arabia.[18] He says:

“ISIS is a rogue, external criminal organisation. Whoever knows of what afflicted us in Iraq and Afghanistan and the blood that was spilled unjustly at the hands of some ignorant individuals in our nation will understand the gravity of what is happening in Syria.”

Dr. Abdul Karim Bakkar:
Dr. Abdul Karim Bakkar is one of the leading authors in the field of education and Islamic thought, who seeks to provide a deep-rooted analysis into matters concerning Islamic civilisation, renaissance and Da’wah. He has more than 40 books in this area. Dr. Abdul Karim Bakkar is a member of the Advisory Board for the Islam Today magazine (Riyadh).[19] He says:

“I met a number of students of knowledge and Islamic jurists returning from Syria. I swear by the One besides whom there is no god that the only thing they spoke about were the repulsive actions of ISIS and their crimes. ISIS and the Assad regime are two faces of one evil.”

Dr. Shafi al-Ajmi:

Dr. Al-Ajmi sought knowledge under the supervision of Sheikh Muhammad b. Saalih and Sheikh Yahya al-Yahya. He studied at the University of Imam Muhammad b. Saud and is now the Imām of al-Ghazali Mosque in Kuwait.[20]He quotes:

“I have not heard of a single scholar inside or outside of Syria who has praised this faction, had good suspicion of them or defended them, rather they have unanimously agreed that they are aggressors. Al-Baghdadi’s aim, since entering Syria is to weaken the fighters and he has indeed weakened al-Nusra Front and Ahraar al-Shaam and continues to do so.”

Sheikh Abu Basir al-Tartusi:

Sheikh Abu Basir al-Tartusi has played the effective role of the Syrian revolution’s Mufti. It is said that Sheikh al-Tartusi was the first Arab fighter to travel to Afghanistan in 1981, accompanying Abdullah Azzam on one of his trips. He has authored many books and is the founder of several of the revolution’s coordination groups.[21] He says:

“The group known as ISIS are from the fanatical Khawārij, rather they have surpassed the Khawārij in many of their characteristics and actions, combining between fanaticism, aggression, hostility and shedding inviolable blood.” He further said: “We call upon all sincere individuals who have been fooled by them while still with this misguided group to severe their ties with it and to declare their freedom from it and its actions.”

Sheikh Abdullah Saad:

The Sheikh and notable Muhadtih Abdullah b. Abdul Rahman b. Mohammed Al-Saad Al-Mutairi is one of those at the forefront of 20th and 21st century Muslim scholars. His teachers include, Sheikh Abdul Aziz b. Baz, Sheikh Mohammed b. Saalih and Sheikh Abdullah b. Abdul Rahman al-Jibreen. He has authored tens of books and has explanations of Bukhāri, Sunan Abī Dāwūd, Jāmi’ al-Tirmithi and others.[22]He says:

“I plea to whoever joined this faction (ISIS) to leave it and move away from it, and for its leaders to return to the truth and to repent to Allāh from the grave mistakes they have fallen into…”

Sheikh Abdullah al-Mahiseny:

Sheikh al-Mahiseny is a specialist in Islamic Jurisprudence, acquiring a PhD in Comparative Fiqh in the subject: “Rulings Concerning War Refugees in Islamic Jurisprudence.”[23] He says:

“By Allāh, I have never witnessed the scholars who speak about matters of Jihād agree on criticising and opposing a Muslim movement as they have agreed on condemning ISIS.” Sheikh Mahiseny concluded by saying: “I implore you by Allāh O Baghdadi to allow a general Islamic court mediate to uphold the injunctions of Allāh.”

Sheikh Adnan Mohammed al-Aroor:

Sheikh Adnan al-Aroor is currently the Director of Research and Publishing in Riyadh. He grew up seeking knowledge in Syria under several scholars including Sheikh al-Albani and Sheikh b. Baz.[24] He is one of the most notable scholarly icons of the Syrian revolution and has a multitude of published works. Sheikh al-Aroor says, directing his question at ISIS:

“Did Allāh set conditions that must be met before accepting that the Qur’ān arbitrate [in the affairs of difference]? Then where did you get these conditions [that you set] from? Why do you leave military fronts such as Homs and dedicate your efforts to the areas near the Turkish borders? … Who are the people of religious authority (ahl al-hal wal-’aqd) who you consulted before establishing your ‘state’? Do you aim to overthrow the sectarian dictator or to fight others [who want to achieve this]? … What is your Islamic proof that justifies your pledge to someone unknown?”[25] He furthermore states: “ISIS are either Khawārij or infiltrated by the [Syrian] regime. It is composed of three groups of people: brutal Takfīrīs, wicked infiltrators and people deceived by them.”

The Scholars of Aleppo Front:

The Scholars of Aleppo Front issued a statement encouraging the sincere members of ISIS to leave this faction and join the legitimate revolutionary forces in Syria for the crime that has been perpetrated by this group, including:

Accusations of disbelief (takfīr), their shedding of inviolable blood without a second thought, kidnappings and documented armed robberies of weapons and ammunition from other rebel factions, their refusal to allow the Sharī’ah to arbitrate between them and the other factions and sowing the seeds of discord between fighers. ISIS’s takfīr sometimes extend to the entire population of Syria. This includes takfīr boldly levelled at the Free Syrian Army, accusing Ahraar al-Shaam that they are misguided ‘Surūrīs’ and that al-Nusra Front have defied their alleged ‘Khalīfah’.[26]

A Joint Statement of 47 Scholars in Saudi Arabia
Including Al-Ghunaymaan, Al-‘Umar, Al-Mahmoud and Al-Jalali Al-Mahmoud

The joint statement asserted that it is impermissible and of tyranny for one faction to impose itself as the only holder of legitimacy and that it is necessary that all other groups pledge allegiance to it without consulting the Muslims, otherwise they become of the Khawārij and their blood becomes permissible. It argued that this is the main reason for divisions and internal fighting. Sheikh Hamoud b. Ali al-Omari added: “The reality of the matter is, every drop of blood shed between the (rebel) factions in Syria is due to al-Baghdadi’s refusal to allow the Sharī’ah to arbitrate while implementing his own innovated Sharī’ah.”

There is no act, the punishment for which has been mentioned more sternly than that of killing a believer intentionally where a collection of five severe retributions have been listed:

“But whoever kills a believer intentionally – his recompense is Hell, wherein he will abide eternally, and Allāh has become angry with him and has cursed him and has prepared for him a great punishment.”[27]

Conclusion

Above are only some of the verdicts issued against ISIS by leading Muslim scholars. Such an agreement between scholars, analysts and intellectuals should shake the heart of any individual who has participated in hampering the revolutionary effort while imposing an innovated ideology on its people. This neither pleases Allāh nor is it to the betterment of Syria. Syrians are in no need of further repression. Sincere individuals who have joined ISIS believing it endorses the true purpose of Islam should rush to change course and avoid further gambling with their permanent abode and with a Syrian future that balances on a knife’s edge.

www.islam21c.com/politics/conclusive-scholarly-opinions-on-isis/

@Rilwayne001

so when are they gonna come out and riot against the killing of Christians like they are doing when the jews are roasting their asses in gaza?

This is the first time frosble is postin a positve news about the vatican...

UrbanMystique: @Rilwayne001

so when are they gonna come out and riot against the killing of Christians like they are doing when the jews are roasting their asses in gaza?

SMH

Truth is bitter for a loon like you

@Rilwayne001
What we expect is outrage and demonstrations against the activities of ISIS by muslims since muslims claim that ISIS and other terrorists using the name of islam to carry out their evil acts are tarnishing the name of Islam. Afterall we have seen muslims express outrage on things as simple as danish cartoons and desecration of copies of the quoran. Obviously what ISIS and these terrorists are doing is far worse so why is there no outrage on the part of Muslims to protest the tarnishing of the name of Islam by these evil terrorists

Rilwayne001:

SMH

Truth is bitter for a loon like you

typical brain-dead hypocrite.
simple question, when are muslims gonna come out and riot against the killing of Christians in northern nigeria, in iraq and every country they dominate. like they would riot and kill whenever someone kills a muslim (for obviously looking for trouble) or insulted islam?
are you allergic to direct answers? dunce

PastorKun: @Rilwayne001
What we expect is outrage and demonstrations against the activities of ISIS by muslims since muslims claim that ISIS and other terrorists using the name of islam to carry out their evil acts are tarnishing the name of Islam. Afterall we have seen muslims express outrage on things as simple as danish cartoons and desecration of copies of the quoran. Obviously what ISIS and these terrorists are doing is far worse so why is there no outrage on the part of Muslims to protest the tarnishing of the name of Islam by these evil terrorists

same question i have been asking this murderous hypocritical maniacs that they refuse to answer.

PastorKun: @Rilwayne001
What we expect is outrage and demonstrations against the activities of ISIS by muslims since muslims claim that ISIS and other terrorists using the name of islam to carry out their evil acts are tarnishing the name of Islam. Afterall we have seen muslims express outrage on things as simple as danish cartoons and desecration of copies of the quoran. Obviously what ISIS and these terrorists are doing is far worse so why is there no outrage on the part of Muslims to protest the tarnishing of the name of Islam by these evil terrorists

God bless you.

UrbanMystique:
typical brain-dead hypocrite.
simple question, when are muslims gonna come out and riot against the killing of Christians in northern nigeria, in iraq and every country they dominate. like they would riot and kill whenever someone kills a muslim (for obviously looking for trouble) or insulted islam?
are you allergic to direct answers? dunce

i'm also waiting for the time the world ill see whats going on in Centra African Republic...am waiting for yr so called popes and bishops to condem d handiworks ov yr xtian broders (the anti-balaka) in CFR!!!...mtsww christians are just fools thinking with dia ass nt dia head

PastorKun: @Rilwayne001] What we expect is outrage and demonstrations against the activities of ISIS by muslims since muslims claim that ISIS and other terrorists using the name of islam to carry out their evil acts are tarnishing the name of Islam. Afterall we have seen muslims express outrage on things as simple as danish cartoons and desecration of copies of the quoran. Obviously what ISIS and these terrorists are doing is far worse so why is there no outrage on the part of Muslims to protest the tarnishing of the name of Islam by these evil terrorists

Have you demonstrate against the activities of Israel in Gaza?

During when George bush and other christians in the USA LIED to the world entered Iraq and killed close to half a mllion civilians on a false pretext (that they posses an atomic bomb) where were you, UrbanMystique, Malvisguy212 and frosbel to condemn the actions of George Bush

Bush said God told him to invade Iraq, he did and ended up killing muslim babies based on lies.

The op urges the muslim leaders to condemn the actions of ISIS and i showed you prove that they have been condemning them.

UrbanMystique:
typical brain-dead hypocrite.
simple question, when are muslims gonna come out and riot against the killing of Christians in northern nigeria, in iraq and every country they dominate. like they would riot and kill whenever someone kills a muslim (for obviously looking for trouble) or insulted islam?
are you allergic to direct answers? dunce

Have a nice day

aumeehn: i'm also waiting for the time the world ill see whats going on in Centra African Republic...am waiting for yr so called popes and bishops to condem d handiworks ov yr xtian broders (the anti-balaka) in CFR!!!...mtsww christians are just fools thinking with dia ass nt dia head

who started the provocation in car in the first place? christians or these same muslims? is car crises on going? you think it's everyone that can watch while islamiac maniacs destroy their livelihood?
how many times have you seen any other theists rioting, destroying and killing whenever someone insults their belief?
why always muslims?

Rilwayne001:

Have a nice day

you too hypocrite

UrbanMystique: who started the provocation in car in the first place? christians or these same muslims? is car crises on going? you think it's everyone that can watch while islamiac maniacs destroy their livelihood?
how many times have you seen any other theists rioting, destroying and killing whenever someone insults their belief?
why always muslims?

u guys are just deluded!!! Praying and hopin one day yr God will cum dwn to israel (a zionist state not a christian state sef) and take you to paradise ....i wonder how he ill take u guys to heaven...is it with an aeroplane or what Cus jesus is just a human like me who poo and pee d only deffrence btwn us is dat he is a prophet and servant of God while am only a servant of God!! Time ill tell sha!

Rilwayne001:

Have you demonstrate against the activities of Israel in Gaza?

During when George bush and other christians in the USA LIED to the world entered Iraq and killed close to half a mllion civilians on a false pretext (that they posses an atomic bomb) where were you, UrbanMystique, Malvisguy212 and frosbel to condemn the actions of George Bush

Bush said God told him to invade Iraq, he did and ended up killing muslim babies based on lies.

The op urges the muslim leaders to condemn the actions of ISIS and i showed you prove that they have been condemning them.

As christians we don't demonstrate, riot or kill. To express our grievances unlike Muslims are known to do anywhere they are present. So my question again why would Muslims riot and kill for something as trivial as the danish cartoons and then turn around and keep mum on a major issue of the evil being perpetuated by ISIS?

Even in the so called condemnation of the evil ISIS is committing, the muslim leaders were more concerned that other Muslims were being killed and not that human beings in general were being slaughtered for evil motives. In my opinion their "condemnation' is tongue in cheek sort of condemnation.

aumeehn: u guys are just deluded!!! Praying and hopin one day yr God will cum dwn to israel (a zionist state not a christian state sef) and take you to paradise ....i wonder how he ill take u guys to heaven...is it with an aeroplane or what Cus jesus is just a human like me who poo and pee d only deffrence btwn us is dat he is a prophet and servant of God while am only a servant of God!! Time ill tell sha!

how did we get to this crap you wrote here from when will muslims protest the killing of non muslims by those that do in the name of their religion?
im an atheist by the way but i can safely live among other religious folks than hypocritical murderous muslims.

UrbanMystique: how did we get to this crap you wrote here from when will muslims protest the killing of non muslims by those that do in the name of their religion?
im an atheist by the way but i can safely live among other religious folks than hypocritical murderous muslims.

brainwashd mofo!! Y re u ashamed ov yr relegion i can see u re ashamed to admit been an infidel!! Is not yr fault sha!
#Quotemenddie......infidel!! U dserve to die!! Ignoramus beign..mtsww ur kinds dserve notin buh pain and death... u dserve to be slaughterd like a goat cus even a goat is worth sumtin!!

aumeehn: brainwashd mofo!! Y re u ashamed ov yr relegion i can see u re ashamed to admit been an infidel!! Is not yr fault sha!
#Quotemenddie......infidel!! U dserve to die!! Ignoramus beign..mtsww ur kinds dserve notin buh pain and death... u dserve to be slaughterd like a goat cus even a goat is worth sumtin!!

rantings of a typical muslim. Are u people vampires? Y do u guys like shedding blood everywia? Religion of p.i.s.s!

Rilwayne001:

Have you demonstrate against the activities of Israel in Gaza?

During when George bush and other christians in the USA LIED to the world entered Iraq and killed close to half a mllion civilians on a false pretext (that they posses an atomic bomb) where were you, UrbanMystique, Malvisguy212 and frosbel to condemn the actions of George Bush

Bush said God told him to invade Iraq, he did and ended up killing muslim babies based on lies.

The op urges the muslim leaders to condemn the actions of ISIS and i showed you prove that they have been condemning them.

christian don't demonstrate, we don't take justice on our hand,have you not watch on tv how artist and actress make fun of jesus christ? Nobody demonstrate but when a film producer make a cartoon of muhammad we all know what happen.

What Gorge bush did was not under religion,it was a political issue,but the isis even called themself caliphate a religion group.

aumeehn: brainwashd mofo!! Y re u ashamed ov yr relegion i can see u re ashamed to admit been an infidel!! Is not yr fault sha!
#Quotemenddie......infidel!! U dserve to die!! Ignoramus beign..mtsww ur kinds dserve notin buh pain and death... u dserve to be slaughterd like a goat cus even a goat is worth sumtin!!

thanks for affirming my point.. blood thirsty maniac


@Rilwayne001 i present to you your fellow blockhead maniac

aumeehn: brainwashd mofo!! Y re u ashamed ov yr relegion i can see u re ashamed to admit been an infidel!! Is not yr fault sha!
#Quotemenddie......infidel!! U dserve to die!! Ignoramus beign..mtsww ur kinds dserve notin buh pain and death... u dserve to be slaughterd like a goat cus even a goat is worth sumtin!!

lol... Did you knw what you just did now... You just confirmed to us the true nature of muslims... Always violent and threatening pple. Better edit that post or you can apologize and claim its out of annoyance...

UrbanMystique: thanks for affirming my point.. blood thirsty maniac


@Rilwayne001 i present to you your fellow blockhead maniac

i am not blockhead like him,

infidels doesnt deserve to die, infidels doesnt deserve to be slaughtere like goats...

i will only fight infidel if he drives me out of my home..

i will only fight infidel if he fought me first...

but if i hold on to forgiveness despite infidel doing wrong to me, my reward from God almighty is greater. cus Allah loves those who do not trasgress limit. Allah loves those who are just and he loves thos who avert evil with Good

Salam

aumeehn: brainwashd mofo!! Y re u ashamed ov yr relegion i can see u re ashamed to admit been an infidel!! Is not yr fault sha!
#Quotemenddie......infidel!! U dserve to die!! Ignoramus beign..mtsww ur kinds dserve notin buh pain and death... u dserve to be slaughterd like a goat cus even a goat is worth sumtin!!

SMH

You should not let there hypocrisy turn you to BH..nobody deserves to die unless in the cause of justice..

Rilwayne001:

i am not blockhead like him,

infidels doesnt deserve to die, infidels doesnt deserve to be slaughtere like goats...

i will only fight infidel if he drives me out of my home..

i will only fight infidel if he fought me first...

but if i hold on to forgiveness despite infidel doing wrong to me, my reward from God almighty is greater. cus Allah loves those who do not trasgress limit. Allah loves those who are just and he loves thos who avert evil with Good

Salam

so you can talk like a normal person after calling me a loon huh?


anyway, we have many muslims like him that should worry someone like you that think anyone that doesn't in believe allah should die a slow painful death (evidence is there in iraq, iran, pakistan, afghanistan, northern nigeria, somalia etc) beheading and killing people as slow and painful they can think about.
which goes back to the initial question, why are the so called "moderate" muslims like you are trying to portray yourself not doing anything about it but will be quick to kill and destroy whenever someone insults mohammed or islam from unknown continent?