ideycraze:
Has PDP not ruled Nigeria for 14 years too? How has the PDP transformed the Nigerian healthcare system?
Why was Patience Jonathan ferried to Germany two years ago when she took ill?
What is GEJ himself doing in Germany at the moment?
Between FASHOLA and GEJ who has access to more resources to build and equip a state-of-the-earth hospital?

egbaguy: i recommend d bastard dat started diz thread be BANNED. The link has nothing to do with the thread.....MOD,over to u!!!!!

He said the issue could not be conclusively
decided because of the absence at the meetings
of some key members, including the former
Lagos State Governor, Senator Bola Tinubu, who
is said to have gone abroad for medical
treatment.

nigerianvenom: i'm not suprised.this is a man who served as a senator ,then became a governor of lagos state for 8yrs with nothing to show for his mafia rulership in lagos.
he could built a tertiary institution worth of sending his children to,hence none of his kids schooled in nigeria,yet he was glad to show ua his 43 and a half teeth during his daughter's graduation in america.this same man couldnt built a maternity center in d whole of lagos worthy of his kids giving birth,that is why all his kids and associates travels to the UK and US for common child birth.tinubu could not built a common clinic to take kare of his health issue as a governor if lagos state and later as the controller general of SW.who are they decieving?this is a man who recieved an IGR bigger than than of ghana,niger and benin republic combine
i wish u quick recovery sha so u will witness the current transformation of GEJ in d health sector which u and OBJ sabotaged

Sincere9gerian:

Tinubu was governor of Lagos state for 8 years after which his anointed successor and incumbent governor took over.

Tinubu is the leader of the APC, the major opposition party in Nigeria, which is making mouth watery promises, including healthcare reforms, if elected in 2015.

One would have expected Tinubu and his gang to atleast show the PDP how it is done by transforming the Lagos healthcare system or was 14 years not enough for Tinubu's party to do the needful in Lagos state?

Since Tinubu and his gang now travel abroad for medical care, what is the fate of the over 20 million Lagosians?

What is obvious is that Tinubu and his party do not trust the Lagos healthcare system they claim to have transformed in 14 years.

jmaine:

If one can't perform magic over a small entity as Lagos after being in power for over a decade attracting a healthy dose of monthly IGR.

Why should you be trusted at the center ?.

This thread is about the hypocrisy of you APC hordes . . . .

HNosegbe:



Let's not make it about politics like Sincere9gerian is doing. Rather let's ROUNDLY criticize governments AT ALL LEVELS for failing to fix our healthcare. This APC-PDP debate will only divide us further and prevent us from speaking with a common voice.

HNosegbe:

If you say that the opposition shouldn't be trusted at the centre for "failing to fix healthcare", I can retort by asking why the ruling party (either at the centre or in states under their control) has also failed to fix healthcare and why it should be allowed to remain in power.

We can (quite rightly) criticize an opposition leader and former governor for not fixing the healthcare system of his state, but an even bigger criticism can go to the PDP-led federal government for the same crime. Was Patience Jonathan not also flown to Germany for treatment a while back?

Let's not make it about politics like Sincere9gerian is doing. Rather let's ROUNDLY criticize governments AT ALL LEVELS for failing to fix our healthcare. This APC-PDP debate will only divide us further and prevent us from speaking with a common voice.

HNosegbe:

If you say that the opposition shouldn't be trusted at the centre for "failing to fix healthcare", I can retort by asking why the ruling party (either at the centre or in states under their control) has also failed to fix healthcare and why it should be allowed to remain in power.

We can (quite rightly) criticize an opposition leader and former governor for not fixing the healthcare system of his state, but an even bigger criticism can go to the PDP-led federal government for the same crime. Was Patience Jonathan not also flown to Germany for treatment a while back?

Let's not make it about politics like Sincere9gerian is doing. Rather let's ROUNDLY criticize governments AT ALL LEVELS for failing to fix our healthcare. This APC-PDP debate will only divide us further and prevent us from speaking with a common voice.

Sincere9gerian:

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/akande-ogbeh-baraje-jostle-for-apc-bot-chair/187293/

Tinubu was governor of Lagos state for 8 years after which his anointed successor and incumbent governor took over.

Tinubu is the leader of the APC, the major opposition party in Nigeria, which is making mouth watery promises, including healthcare reforms, if elected in 2015.

One would have expected Tinubu and his gang to atleast show the PDP how it is done by transforming the Lagos healthcare system or was 14 years not enough for Tinubu's party to do the needful in Lagos state?

Since Tinubu and his gang now travel abroad for medical care, what is the fate of the over 20 million Lagosians?

What is obvious is that Tinubu and his party do not trust the Lagos healthcare system they claim to have transformed in 14 years.

jmaine:

I am here to counter the default hypocrisy often deployed by the APC crowd whenever a PDP leader is flown abroad.

Am an advocate of fair criticisms, but not when it borders on sheer hypocrisy. This is a party who has been solely in charge of the coffers of a state yet has challenges , but the same group of individuals will go hard on others for similar sins.

As long as we keep adopting hypocritical criticisms, am sorry you will be seeing more of this in the future.

Our politics of bitterness is acutely toxic, and thus greatly mitigates against the advantage of speaking with " a common voice"

AZeD1:
It baffles me how PDP supporters can actually say APC governors failed to fix ...........(insert any terrible sector here) when the PDP has done worse.

HNosegbe:

PDP supporters do the exact same thing when it happens to an APC leader (e.g. comments on this thread) so the "hypocrisy" you refer to comes from BOTH sides. Or can you tell me that Sincere9gerian created this thread out of a genuine concern for the state of the Lagos State healthcare system?

Your point is moot, sorry to say.

jmaine:

This is a counter APC hypocrisy thread I.e Dishing out like for like.

Appears you didn't get the memo . . . . .

HNosegbe:

"Like for like", you say?

Then you're reinforcing my point. Both sets of supporters are hypocrites.

jmaine:

Great, then what is these false change the APC and her supporters keep preaching to us.

Mind sharing with me since you sternly believe both sides of the divide and inseparably related . . . .

AZeD1:
Tinubu is a private citizen and he can go anywhere he wants for medical treatment. The question you should be asking is where he went for medical treatment when he WAS governor.

If PEJ went to Germany for treatment, what is the fate of over 170 million Nigerians?

PS: Yar'Adua a pdp president and two time governor died in a foreign hospital, Stella Obasanjo, wife of a two time pdp president died in a foreign hospital, Your state governor(pdp) Chime spent almost the whole of last year in a foreign hospital.

You can hate APC all you want, its your choice but when it comes to health care failure in Nigeria, PDP makes APC look like amateurs.

OP Out of curiosity, why didn't you create a thread when your state governor was in the hospital at your expense?

HNosegbe:

The 2012 French presidential elections were more a vote AGAINST Sarkozy than for any sterling qualities that Monsieur Hollande had. It is possible to VOTE OUT an individual if you feel he hasn't done enough to better your lives. Meaning, we keep voting out leaders who fail to perform until the politicians shape up and DELIVER.

I would have preferred an opposition party with a better manifesto and ideology but I recognize this may not be possible in Nigeria of 2014.
Nevertheless, if Nigerians do not believe that GEJ has done enough to deserve a second term, he can be voted out and we can try out the opposition. If they also mess up, we kick them out next election cycle. This may be our best shot since neither party is better or worse than the other.

But for the love of God, WE MUST STOP TOLERATING MEDIOCRITY.

nigerianvenom:



so who is now the bastarrd between u and the OP?

jmaine: The shameless hypocrites will soon be here . . . . .

HNosegbe:

The 2012 French presidential elections were more a vote AGAINST Sarkozy than for any sterling qualities that Monsieur Hollande had. It is possible to VOTE OUT an individual if you feel he hasn't done enough to better your lives. Meaning, we keep voting out leaders who fail to perform until the politicians shape up and DELIVER.

I would have preferred an opposition party with a better manifesto and ideology but I recognize this may not be possible in Nigeria of 2014.
Nevertheless, if Nigerians do not believe that GEJ has done enough to deserve a second term, he can be voted out and we can try out the opposition. If they also mess up, we kick them out next election cycle. This may be our best shot since neither party is better or worse than the other.

But for the love of God, WE MUST STOP TOLERATING MEDIOCRITY.

shizzleStar:
egbagoat is the undisputed bar.stard

babyosisi: Thief.nubu,get well soon o
Eku speedy recovery

jmaine:

I am here to counter the statement often deployed by the APC crowd whenever a PDP leader Jonathan and PEJ is flown abroad.

Am an advocate of fair criticisms, but not when it borders on sheer hypocrisy. This is a party who has been solely in charge of the coffers of a state yet has challenges , but the same group of individuals will go hard on others for similar sins.

As long as we keep adopting hypocritical criticisms, am sorry you will be seeing more of this in the future.

Our politics of bitterness is acutely toxic, and thus greatly mitigate against the advantage of speaking with " a common voice"


That's the reality . . . . . . .

HNosegbe:

The 2012 French presidential elections were more a vote AGAINST Sarkozy than for any sterling qualities that Monsieur Hollande had. It is possible to VOTE OUT an individual if you feel he hasn't done enough to better your lives. Meaning, we keep voting out leaders who fail to perform until the politicians shape up and DELIVER.

I would have preferred an opposition party with a better manifesto and ideology but I recognize this may not be possible in Nigeria of 2014.
Nevertheless, if Nigerians do not believe that GEJ has done enough to deserve a second term, he can be voted out and we can try out the opposition. If they also mess up, we kick them out next election cycle. This may be our best shot since neither party is better or worse than the other.

But for the love of God, WE MUST STOP TOLERATING MEDIOCRITY.