Olusanya333: Our word"baptize" is translated from the original Greek word"baptizo", which means to immerse."Baptizo" does not mean sprinkle or pour.

my dear, there are plenty untruths in the article, but before i go into this, please i wish to kindly request that you make a indepth study into the use of the greek word baptizo in scriptures...it is certainly not limited to immersion.

Ubenedictus:

my dear, there are plenty untruths in the article, but before i go into this, please i wish to kindly request that you make a indepth study into the use of the greek word baptizo in scriptures...it is certainly not limited to immersion.

D dramatic representation is shown when Jesus was baptized. And d word shows its by immersion

IseOluwa777:

The problem with this your line of reasoning is that you use it justify the fact that you are not baptised the way early christians were baptised. That fact you cant dispute. There is no record of anyone baptised the way you say. Even Peter who heard the instruction from Jesus Christ baptised in Jesus Name. So except you become apologetic for Peter,he did not do it the way you say. Not only him, Paul also. think on these things. I rest the case.

Since it is the Lord himself dat says "Baptizing them in the name of the Father,of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit" he can't be wrong nd if i obey his command as He said it i can't be wrong either.

Olusanya333: Since it is the Lord himself dat says "Baptizing them in the name of the Father,of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit" he can't be wrong nd if i obey his command as He said it i can't be wrong either.

Well, it means you make the Lord look hypocritical, if He couldnt get even His first disciples to do exactly as He worded it. If He couldnt do that, then it means He has no right to judge subsequent believers who do not do exactly as He said. That's not going to be the case because His disciples did what He said : They used the Name of the Father (Jesus) and the Son (Jesus) and the Holy Ghost (Jesus). The Name of the Father is Jesus.

IseOluwa777:

Well, it means you make the Lord look hypocritical, if He couldnt get even His first disciples to do exactly as He worded it. If He couldnt do that, then it means He has no right to judge subsequent believers who do not do exactly as He said. That's not going to be the case because His disciples did what He said : They used the Name of the Father (Jesus) and the Son (Jesus) and the Holy Ghost (Jesus). The Name of the Father is Jesus.

lol so the Father is Jesus Christ who left the throne and came to earth? What about the voice from heaven that spoke to him and called Him His Son? Was it the Holy Spirit, an angel or Himself rather... And here rich4god and critics will be here bashing me not knowing the real confusionist are here. ....Confused heretics

Rich4god: lol... So its no longer the mode of baptism, but the name in which to baptize... SMH 4 christianity..... If una channel this effort wey una dey use dey bash oda pples way of worship to improving on your relationship with God, walahi una 4 dey higher levels by now...

ProphetUdeme: lol so the Father is Jesus Christ who left the throne and came to earth? What about the voice from heaven that spoke to him and called Him His Son? Was it the Holy Spirit, an angel or Himself rather... And here rich4god and critics will be here bashing me not knowing the real confusionist are here. ....Confused heretics

[quote author=Rich4god]If you look at my comment, you will know that I dont support any of them... Its not that I like bashing you. My own is, if you want to preach the word, preach it in anyway you like but dont make other peoples faith and mode of worship look like the devils own, and that was my problem with you, like wise the OP and JW's... Sisterme started in a good way and I was enjoying her writings until she turned around and started making it look like if you dont follow that man she called the last messenger abi angel, then you are on a long thing.

IseOluwa777:

Well, it means you make the Lord look hypocritical, if He couldnt get even His first disciples to do exactly as He worded it. If He couldnt do that, then it means He has no right to judge subsequent believers who do not do exactly as He said. That's not going to be the case because His disciples did what He said : They used the Name of the Father (Jesus) and the Son (Jesus) and the Holy Ghost (Jesus). The Name of the Father is Jesus.

Haha bro how does dat sounds in ur spirit? We know they are one but they are 3 diff persons. The Father,Son nd d Holy Spirit when call one is JEHOVAH.

Olusanya333: Haha bro how does dat sounds in ur spirit? We know they are one but they are 3 diff persons. The Father,Son nd d Holy Spirit when call one is JEHOVAH.

Now you are talking. That Jehovah ( His old Name) is severally called a "He" in the old testament. One Person. He contains all three. So He is all 3. His Name now is Jesus. Thats why baptism is in JESUS name. That is the strong tower the righteous run into and are saved. That is the Name of the LORD.

IseOluwa777:

Now you are talking. That Jehovah ( His old Name) is severally called a "He" in the old testament. One Person. He contains all three. So He is all 3. His Name now is Jesus. Thats why baptism is in JESUS name. That is the strong tower the righteous run into and are saved. That is the Name of the LORD.

Anything wrong in baptizing in the name of the father and of the son and of the holy spirit...?

Rich4god: Anything wrong in baptizing in the name of the father and of the son and of the holy spirit...?

The problem with that is that there is no Name in that phrase, hence no authority.

IseOluwa777:

The problem with that is that there is no Name in that phrase, hence no authority.

So Christ was mistaken when he said we should baptise in the 3 names...

For those who are interested in learning the truth about the greek word "baptizo"

[url]vftonline.org/VFTfiles/baptizo.htm[/url]

Rich4god: So Christ was mistaken when he said we should baptise in the 3 names...

There is'nt three names but one name :" in the Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost" not "in the Name of the Father and in the Name of the Son and in the Name of the Holy Ghost".

Jesus was not mistaken, He knew that they knew His name.

IseOluwa777: There is'nt three names but one name :" in the Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost" not "in the Name of the Father and in the Name of the Son and in the Name of the Holy Ghost".

Jesus was not mistaken, He knew that they knew His name.

Why are you so confused... I ask again... Is it wrong to baptize according to Matthew 28:19

Rich4god: Why are you so confused... I ask again... Is it wrong to baptize according to Matthew 28:19

Matt 28:19 is the instruction, Acts 2:38 is the same instruction IN PRACTICE.

IseOluwa777:

Now you are talking. That Jehovah ( His old Name) is severally called a "He" in the old testament. One Person. He contains all three. So He is all 3. His Name now is Jesus. Thats why baptism is in JESUS name. That is the strong tower the righteous run into and are saved. That is the Name of the LORD.

Since The Father,the Son nd the Holy Spirit equals Jesus.Why bothered thyself since when baptized in the name of d Father Son and Holy Spirit is d same as the name of Jesus as u claim it to be.

Olusanya333: Since The Father,the Son nd the Holy Spirit equals Jesus.Why bothered thyself since when baptized in the name of d Father Son and Holy Spirit is d same as the name of Jesus as u claim it to be.

The issue is the Name, the Name is missing in the first, but mentioned in the second. Jesus blessed a church in the Book of Revelation because they had not forgotten His Name. Its the Name that has the power.

IseOluwa777:

The issue is the Name, the Name is missing in the first, but mentioned in the second. Jesus blessed a church in the Book of Revelation because they had not forgotten His Name. Its the Name that has the power.

God give you two ears and mouth so u listen twice as much u talk. "I will pray the Father and He shall give you another counsellor who will be with thee forever" with ur words that Jesus is the Father,Son nd d Holy Spirit,let me put it in nd u read JESUS said "I will pray JESUS and He will give you another JESUS,to be with you for ever" Brother I told u b4hand d Godhead is a mystery u can't understand all dats why after d seven thunders had sounded John was not allowed to write it down.Have u ask Why? There are things u r not to understand on this earth but if u so desperate to know it Satan will present u a lie. I wish u strength in dis christain race dat God be with u and we both make heaven at last.Amen

IseOluwa777:

Matt 28:19 is the instruction, Acts 2:38 is the same instruction IN PRACTICE.

Trash... I aske again... Is baptism in the name of the fatther son and spirit valid or not...? All I need is yes or no, any other thing is trash...

Rich4god: Trash... I aske again... Is baptism in the name of the fatther son and spirit valid or not...? All I need is yes or no, any other thing is trash...

If He says not valid den He is saying The name of Jesus not valid bcus He said "The Father,the son nd the Holy Spirit is equal Jesus" nd if He said Valid den His word is pointless. Bro no make the brother sin ooo oo.

Olusanya333: If He says not valid den He is saying The name of Jesus not valid bcus He said "The Father,the son nd the Holy Spirit is equal Jesus" nd if He said Valid den His word is pointless. Bro no make the brother sin ooo oo.

lol... No be him start am... Am still waiting for his response. I hope he wont abandon this thread...

IseOluwa777: [/quote][quote author=Rich4god]Trash... I aske again... Is baptism in the name of the fatther son and spirit valid or not...? All I need is yes or no, any other thing is trash...

Guy... I hope say you never run... Come clear yoursef for hear o....

Rich4god:
Guy... I hope say you never run... Come clear yoursef for hear o....

Run? what for? The question is like the one the high priest asked Jesus " are you the Messiah the Son of the living God..?" It was a "damned if you do and damned if you don't " question. Well I will answer you as Jesus answered the high priest ( "I am". Baptism by quoting "in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost" is invalid. None of Jesus disciples in the Bible was baptised like that.

IseOluwa777:

Run? what for? The question is like the one the high priest asked Jesus " are you the Messiah the Son of the living God..?" It was a "damned if you do and damned if you don't " question. Well I will answer you as Jesus answered the high priest ( "I am". Baptism by quoting "in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost" is invalid. None of Jesus disciples in the Bible was baptised like that.

Bro u just make the biggest mistake of ur life and its already recorded.

IseOluwa777:

Run? what for? The question is like the one the high priest asked Jesus " are you the Messiah the Son of the living God..?" It was a "damned if you do and damned if you don't " question. Well I will answer you as Jesus answered the high priest ( "I am". Baptism by quoting "in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost" is invalid. None of Jesus disciples in the Bible was baptised like that.

lol.... I give up.... I wonder how many people will make it to heaven if God is to judge by the standard of these modern days christian...

Olusanya333: Bro u just make the biggest mistake of ur life and its already recorded.

No my friend, I have not. I can point to people who were baptised like myself in the Bible. You can not do the same. Wherever those people like myself in the Bible are, I also am entitled to be because God is not partial. You on the other can not say the same because there is no one baptised like you in yhe Bible which is our guide.

IseOluwa777:

No my friend, I have not. I can point to people who were baptised like myself in the Bible. You can not do the same. Wherever those people like myself in the Bible are, I also am entitled to be because God is not partial. You on the other can not say the same because there is no one baptised like you in yhe Bible which is our guide.

When Jesus was alive in which name did his disciples baptized?

Olusanya333: When Jesus was alive in which name did his disciples baptized?

The Bible does not tell us. If you can quote it, I want to see it.

IseOluwa777:

The Bible does not tell us. If you can quote it, I want to see it.

Then u cannot invalidate baptizing in the Name of the Father, and Of the Son,and of the Holy Spirit. If Jesus were then baptizing in his name He will not give dat command u see.

Olusanya333: Then u cannot invalidate baptizing in the Name of the Father, and Of the Son,and of the Holy Spirit. If Jesus were then baptizing in his name He will not give dat command u see.

Whatever the baptism was, you have to prove it by the Bible that it was done in the Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost. Show me one person baptised that way in the Bible. Until I see that scripture, your presumption remains an assumption at best and an error at worst, certainly not a fact. There is something called "presumptuous sins" in the Bible.

IseOluwa777:

Whatever the baptism was, you have to prove it by the Bible that it was done in the Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost. Show me one person baptised that way in the Bible. Until I see that scripture, your presumption remains an assumption at best and an error at worst, certainly not a fact. There is something called "presumptuous sins" in the Bible.

Bro u said it equates with baptism in the name of the Lord Jesus. So since it equates its not an error. And again The Word of God is True but u r saying its wrong.moreover i leave u to ur hypocricy u can continue if u so wish and desire it.

Olusanya333: Bro u said it equates with baptism in the name of the Lord Jesus. So since it equates its not an error. And again The Word of God is True but u r saying its wrong.moreover i leave u to ur hypocricy u can continue if u so wish and desire it.

Dear Brother, "it equates to" really means "it resolves to". When I say 2x + y = z. where x=2 and y=6, You are expected to slot in those values and tell us that z=10. Resolving the value of z is the essence of the whole equation.

So also those titles resolve to Jesus for Isaiah 9:6 calls Jesus the Father, we already know He is the Son, and Romans 8 calls the Holy Spirit the Spirit of Jesus.Dont take offence. pray about it and ask God if it is true. God bless you.