Abdulsalam20: ALL CHRISTIANS NOWADAYS ARE ANTICHRIST THERE IS NOTHING LIKE CHRISTIANITY JESUS PREACHES ISLAM HE PREACHES TOTAL SUBMISSION TO GOD UNCONDITIONALLY BUT SOME PEOPLE MISUNDERSTOOD HIM THAT WHAT HE PREACH IS TOTAL SUBMISSION TO JESUS(WORSHIP HIM)

Kindly show me a text that says Jesus prayed 5 times on a mat and facing the East.

Abdulsalam20:
WHO ARE BOKO HARAM?!!
(1) Mr. John Alaku Akpavan, the
man arrested attempt to bomb
Radio House Abuja were christian.
(2) Lydia Joseph (the failed
bomber of St. John Catholic
Cathedral) of Bauchi State who
attempted to bomb a church on
September 12,2011.; was
christian.
(3) Augustine Effiong akwa ibon
indigene carry april 29th 2012
attack in connection with BUK
bomb attack.” Was christian.
(4) Emmanuel King arrested in
attempt to bomb the Redeemed
Christian Church of God (RCCG) in
Yenagoa, the Bayelsa State capital,
while camouflaged in Islamic
attire on December 28, 2011.
(5) Igbo traders that gunned
down a dozen fellow Igbo
businessmen of the same non-
Islamic faith inside the Christ
Apostolic Church, in Adamawa
State on Friday, January 6, 2012.
(6) Samson Mangai who was
arrested in Plateau state
attempting to bomb a church was
christian fellower.
(7) Madam Ruth, who attempted
to bomb the ECWA church,
Kalaring Kaltingo, in Gombe State
on 12 Mar 2012. She Was cristian
fellower.
( Case of the arrest of about
eight Christians in Bauchi in an
attempt to blast the COCIN church
on Sunday, February 26, 2012.
(9) Case of the Christian bomber
lynched while escaping after
blasting the COCIN Church of Jos
on Sunday, February 26, 2012.
(10) Mr Alex Danladi involved in
COCIN HQ bombing was lynched
by worshipers. He was a church
member disguised in military
uniform.
(11) jonathan Gyanet, police
officer was arrested attempt to
bomb ERCC church in
Akwanga nasarawa state on Apri
20 2014. Was christian.
(12) The pastor's case in Osun state still fresh in our mind# fact!
CAN WE STILL CALL IT MUSLIMS'
AGENDA?

You can as well say the US, UK and others have sent westerners to join ISIS so as tarnish the image of Islam. If you can comfortably tag these people as Christians, I can then tag ISIS, Al-shabub and Al-queda as muslims. Do we have an understanding?

malvisguy212: proof for what? I dont need to tell you, When muhammad wage war on the people you turn blind eyes not to
see it, APART FROM MUHAMMAD, WHICH PROPHET OWN A SLAVE? HOW
DO YOU OWN SLAVE? IS IT NOT BY WAR? WHEN YOU DEFECT YOUR
ENEMY AT WAR YOU CAPTURE THE SLAVE.

you said on christians and jews.....Remember.. which people,,is it not the same people that that wage war in His home town and send him and out until he bow to the idol they worship..please read about Him before making a false accusation on Him.He wage war on idol worshipers...get a life and stop lieing

NifemiOlu:

Kindly show me a text that says Jesus prayed 5 times on a mat and facing the East.

I WILL EVEN SHOW U THAT ALL PROPHET DID IT
ISLAM WAS TAUGHT BY EVERY SINGLE PROPHET THAT CAME BEFORE
THE PROPHET MUHAMMAD, NOAH, ABRAHAM, MOSES, AND JESUS
ALL TAUGHT AND PREACHED ISLAM. INCLUDING THE OTHER MANY
PROPHETS SUCH AS JACOB, ISHMAEL, JOSEPH, AND ISAAC! AND ALL
THE PROPHETS... PRAYED AS THE MUSLIM TODAY PRAY , OF COURSE
THIS INCLUDE JESUS AND HIS DISCIPLES
* MUSLIMS (THOSE WHO SUBMIT TO THE WILL OF GOD) PERFORM
ABLUTION BEFORE PRAYER
THEN DAVID AROSE FROM THE EARTH AND WASHED AND ANOINTED
HIMSELF AND CHANGED HIS CLOTHES. AND HE WENT INTO THE HOUSE
OF THE LORD AND WORSHIPED ( SAMUEL 12:20 )
THEY SHALL WASH THEIR HANDS AND THEIR FEET ( EXODUS 30:21 )
WITH WHICH MOSES AND AARON AND HIS SONS WASHED THEIR
HANDS AND THEIR FEET. ( EXODUS 40:31 )
* THE FIRST POSITION OF PRAYER, MUSLIMS LIFT UP THEIR HANDS
PALMS OUT AT THE SIDE OF THE HEAD
SO I WILL BLESS YOU AS LONG AS I LIVE
IN YOUR NAME I WILL LIFT UP MY HANDS. (PSALM 63:4 )
AND EZRA BLESSED THE LORD, THE GREAT GOD, AND ALL THE PEOPLE
ANSWERED,(A) “AMEN, AMEN,”(B) LIFTING UP THEIR HANDS. AND
THEY BOWED THEIR HEADS AND WORSHIPED THE LORD WITH THEIR
FACES TO THE GROUND.(NEHEMIAH 8:6 )
* WHEN THE MUSLIMS PRAY, THEY FELL ON THEIR FACES
THEN ABRAM FELL ON HIS FACE. AND GOD SAID TO HIM(GENESIS
17:3 )
THEN MOSES AND AARON WENT FROM THE PRESENCE OF THE
ASSEMBLY TO THE ENTRANCE OF THE TENT OF MEETING AND FELL ON
THEIR FACES. AND THE GLORY OF THE LORD APPEARED TO THEM,
(NUMBERS 20:6 )
THEN JOSHUA TORE HIS CLOTHES AND FELL TO THE EARTH ON HIS FACE
BEFORE THE ARK OF THE LORD (JOSHUA 7:6 ).
WHEN ALL THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL SAW THE FIRE COME DOWN AND THE
GLORY OF THE LORD ON THE TEMPLE, THEY BOWED DOWN WITH THEIR
FACES TO THE GROUND (2 CHRONICLES 7:3 )
AND EZRA BLESSED THE LORD, THE GREAT GOD, AND ALL THE PEOPLE
ANSWERED,(A) “AMEN, AMEN,”(B) LIFTING UP THEIR HANDS.(C)
AND THEY BOWED THEIR HEADS AND WORSHIPED THE LORD WITH
THEIR FACES TO THE GROUND.(NEHEMIAH 8:6 )
** JESUS PRAYING TO GOD
”AND GOING A LITTLE FARTHER HE FELL ON HIS FACE AND
PRAYED”( MATTHEW 26:39 )
** EVEN JESUS’ DISCIPLES SUBMITTED AS MUSLIMS
WHEN THE DISCIPLES HEARD THIS, THEY FELL ON THEIR FACES AND
WERE TERRIFIED”( MATTHEW 17:6 )
AND ELIJAH WENT UP TO THE TOP OF MOUNT CARMEL, AND HE BOWED
HIMSELF DOWN ON THE EARTH AND PUT HIS FACE BETWEEN HIS
KNEES.(1 KINGS 18: 42 )
AND ALL THE ANGELS WERE STANDING AROUND THE THRONE AND
AROUND THE ELDERS AND THE FOUR LIVING CREATURES, AND THEY FELL
ON THEIR FACES BEFORE THE THRONE AND WORSHIPED GOD,
(REVELATIONS 7:11 )
OH COME, LET US WORSHIP AND BOW DOWN
LET US KNEEL BEFORE THE LORD, OUR MAKER! (PSALM 95:6 )
ALL THE PROSPEROUS OF THE EARTH EAT AND WORSHIP
BEFORE HIM SHALL BOW ALL WHO GO DOWN TO THE DUST( PSALM
22:29 )
NOW MANOAH AND HIS WIFE WERE WATCHING, AND THEY FELL ON
THEIR FACES TO THE GROUND. (JUDGES 13:20 )
AND WHEN ALL THE PEOPLE SAW IT, THEY FELL ON THEIR FACES AND
SAID, “THE LORD, HE IS GOD; THE LORD, HE IS GOD.”( 1 KINGS
18:39 )
DAVID ROSE FROM BESIDE THE STONE HEAP AND FELL ON HIS FACE TO
THE GROUND( 1 SAMUEL 20: 41 )
AND JOSHUA FELL ON HIS FACE TO THE EARTH AND WORSHIPED
(JOSHUA 5:14 )
WHEN ABRAHAM’S SERVANT HEARD THEIR WORDS, HE BOWED
HIMSELF TO THE EARTH BEFORE THE LORD.(GENESIS 24:52 )
ISLAM IN BIBLE ••••►BOWING AND PROSTRATING ON THE GROUND
• JESUS (PBUH)
AND HE WENT A LITTLE FARTHER, AND FELL ON HIS FACE, AND PRAYED,
SAYING, O MY FATHER, IF IT BE POSSIBLE, LET THIS CUP PASS FROM
ME: NEVERTHELESS NOT AS I WILL, BUT AS THOU [WILT.]. (MATTHEW
26:39)
• MOSES (PBUH)
AND MOSES BOWED TO THE GROUND AND WORSHIPED. (EXODUS
34:
• MOSES AND AARON (PBUT) :
THEN MOSES AND AARON WENT AWAY FROM THE ASSEMBLY TO THE
ENTRANCE OF THE TENT OF MEETING AND FELL ON THEIR FACES…
(NUMBERS 20:6)
• ABRAHAM (PBUH)
THEN ABRAM FELL ON HIS FACE. (GENESIS 17:3)
• ABRAHAM’S SERVANT :
WHEN ABRAHAM’S SERVANT HEARD THEIR WORDS, HE BOWED
HIMSELF TO THE GROUND BEFORE THE LORD. (GENESIS 24:52)
• JOSHUA (PBUH) :
AND JOSHUA FELL ON HIS FACE TO THE EARTH AND WORSHIPED
(JOSHUA 5:14).
• EZRA AND THE PEOPLE :
THEN THEY BOWED THEIR HEADS AND WORSHIPED THE LORD WITH
THEIR FACES TO THE GROUND. (NEHEMIAH 8:6)
JESUS IS A MUSLIM: JESUS USING THE WORD "MUSLIM" IN LUKE
6:40:
LET US LOOK AT LUKE 6:40 FROM MY N.I.V. BIBLE "A STUDENT IS
NOT ABOVE HIS TEACHER, BUT EVERYONE WHO IS FULLY TRAINED WILL
BE LIKE HIS TEACHER."

Abdulsalam20:
I WILL EVEN SHOW U THAT ALL PROPHET DID IT
ISLAM WAS TAUGHT BY EVERY SINGLE PROPHET THAT CAME BEFORE
THE PROPHET MUHAMMAD, NOAH, ABRAHAM, MOSES, AND JESUS
ALL TAUGHT AND PREACHED ISLAM. INCLUDING THE OTHER MANY
PROPHETS SUCH AS JACOB, ISHMAEL, JOSEPH, AND ISAAC! AND ALL
THE PROPHETS... PRAYED AS THE MUSLIM TODAY PRAY , OF COURSE
THIS INCLUDE JESUS AND HIS DISCIPLES
* MUSLIMS (THOSE WHO SUBMIT TO THE WILL OF GOD) PERFORM
ABLUTION BEFORE PRAYER
THEN DAVID AROSE FROM THE EARTH AND WASHED AND ANOINTED
HIMSELF AND CHANGED HIS CLOTHES. AND HE WENT INTO THE HOUSE
OF THE LORD AND WORSHIPED ( SAMUEL 12:20 )
THEY SHALL WASH THEIR HANDS AND THEIR FEET ( EXODUS 30:21 )
WITH WHICH MOSES AND AARON AND HIS SONS WASHED THEIR
HANDS AND THEIR FEET. ( EXODUS 40:31 )
* THE FIRST POSITION OF PRAYER, MUSLIMS LIFT UP THEIR HANDS
PALMS OUT AT THE SIDE OF THE HEAD
SO I WILL BLESS YOU AS LONG AS I LIVE
IN YOUR NAME I WILL LIFT UP MY HANDS. (PSALM 63:4 )
AND EZRA BLESSED THE LORD, THE GREAT GOD, AND ALL THE PEOPLE
ANSWERED,(A) “AMEN, AMEN,”(B) LIFTING UP THEIR HANDS. AND
THEY BOWED THEIR HEADS AND WORSHIPED THE LORD WITH THEIR
FACES TO THE GROUND.(NEHEMIAH 8:6 )
* WHEN THE MUSLIMS PRAY, THEY FELL ON THEIR FACES
THEN ABRAM FELL ON HIS FACE. AND GOD SAID TO HIM(GENESIS
17:3 )
THEN MOSES AND AARON WENT FROM THE PRESENCE OF THE
ASSEMBLY TO THE ENTRANCE OF THE TENT OF MEETING AND FELL ON
THEIR FACES. AND THE GLORY OF THE LORD APPEARED TO THEM,
(NUMBERS 20:6 )
THEN JOSHUA TORE HIS CLOTHES AND FELL TO THE EARTH ON HIS FACE
BEFORE THE ARK OF THE LORD (JOSHUA 7:6 ).
WHEN ALL THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL SAW THE FIRE COME DOWN AND THE
GLORY OF THE LORD ON THE TEMPLE, THEY BOWED DOWN WITH THEIR
FACES TO THE GROUND (2 CHRONICLES 7:3 )
AND EZRA BLESSED THE LORD, THE GREAT GOD, AND ALL THE PEOPLE
ANSWERED,(A) “AMEN, AMEN,”(B) LIFTING UP THEIR HANDS.(C)
AND THEY BOWED THEIR HEADS AND WORSHIPED THE LORD WITH
THEIR FACES TO THE GROUND.(NEHEMIAH 8:6 )
** JESUS PRAYING TO GOD
”AND GOING A LITTLE FARTHER HE FELL ON HIS FACE AND
PRAYED”( MATTHEW 26:39 )
** EVEN JESUS’ DISCIPLES SUBMITTED AS MUSLIMS
WHEN THE DISCIPLES HEARD THIS, THEY FELL ON THEIR FACES AND
WERE TERRIFIED”( MATTHEW 17:6 )
AND ELIJAH WENT UP TO THE TOP OF MOUNT CARMEL, AND HE BOWED
HIMSELF DOWN ON THE EARTH AND PUT HIS FACE BETWEEN HIS
KNEES.(1 KINGS 18: 42 )
AND ALL THE ANGELS WERE STANDING AROUND THE THRONE AND
AROUND THE ELDERS AND THE FOUR LIVING CREATURES, AND THEY FELL
ON THEIR FACES BEFORE THE THRONE AND WORSHIPED GOD,
(REVELATIONS 7:11 )
OH COME, LET US WORSHIP AND BOW DOWN
LET US KNEEL BEFORE THE LORD, OUR MAKER! (PSALM 95:6 )
ALL THE PROSPEROUS OF THE EARTH EAT AND WORSHIP
BEFORE HIM SHALL BOW ALL WHO GO DOWN TO THE DUST( PSALM
22:29 )
NOW MANOAH AND HIS WIFE WERE WATCHING, AND THEY FELL ON
THEIR FACES TO THE GROUND. (JUDGES 13:20 )
AND WHEN ALL THE PEOPLE SAW IT, THEY FELL ON THEIR FACES AND
SAID, “THE LORD, HE IS GOD; THE LORD, HE IS GOD.”( 1 KINGS
18:39 )
DAVID ROSE FROM BESIDE THE STONE HEAP AND FELL ON HIS FACE TO
THE GROUND( 1 SAMUEL 20: 41 )
AND JOSHUA FELL ON HIS FACE TO THE EARTH AND WORSHIPED
(JOSHUA 5:14 )
WHEN ABRAHAM’S SERVANT HEARD THEIR WORDS, HE BOWED
HIMSELF TO THE EARTH BEFORE THE LORD.(GENESIS 24:52 )
ISLAM IN BIBLE ••••►BOWING AND PROSTRATING ON THE GROUND
• JESUS (PBUH)
AND HE WENT A LITTLE FARTHER, AND FELL ON HIS FACE, AND PRAYED,
SAYING, O MY FATHER, IF IT BE POSSIBLE, LET THIS CUP PASS FROM
ME: NEVERTHELESS NOT AS I WILL, BUT AS THOU [WILT.]. (MATTHEW
26:39)
• MOSES (PBUH)
AND MOSES BOWED TO THE GROUND AND WORSHIPED. (EXODUS
34:
• MOSES AND AARON (PBUT) :
THEN MOSES AND AARON WENT AWAY FROM THE ASSEMBLY TO THE
ENTRANCE OF THE TENT OF MEETING AND FELL ON THEIR FACES…
(NUMBERS 20:6)
• ABRAHAM (PBUH)
THEN ABRAM FELL ON HIS FACE. (GENESIS 17:3)
• ABRAHAM’S SERVANT :
WHEN ABRAHAM’S SERVANT HEARD THEIR WORDS, HE BOWED
HIMSELF TO THE GROUND BEFORE THE LORD. (GENESIS 24:52)
• JOSHUA (PBUH) :
AND JOSHUA FELL ON HIS FACE TO THE EARTH AND WORSHIPED
(JOSHUA 5:14).
• EZRA AND THE PEOPLE :
THEN THEY BOWED THEIR HEADS AND WORSHIPED THE LORD WITH
THEIR FACES TO THE GROUND. (NEHEMIAH 8:6)
JESUS IS A MUSLIM: JESUS USING THE WORD "MUSLIM" IN LUKE
6:40:
LET US LOOK AT LUKE 6:40 FROM MY N.I.V. BIBLE "A STUDENT IS
NOT ABOVE HIS TEACHER, BUT EVERYONE WHO IS FULLY TRAINED WILL
BE LIKE HIS TEACHER."

Falling to the face was a mode worship at that time, even till date, some churches pray in that manner, some place heads their on a desk, some stand while some just sit. What I asked was show me a text that said " bow on your face 5 times daily etc"

malvisguy212: proof for what? I dont need to tell you, When muhammad wage war on the people you turn blind eyes not to
see it, APART FROM MUHAMMAD, WHICH PROPHET OWN A SLAVE? HOW
DO YOU OWN SLAVE? IS IT NOT BY WAR? WHEN YOU DEFECT YOUR
ENEMY AT WAR YOU CAPTURE THE SLAVE.

SLAVERY IN THE BIBLE IS VERY WORST

LEVITICUS 25:44-46
HOWEVER, YOU MAY PURCHASE MALE OR FEMALE SLAVES FROM
AMONG THE FOREIGNERS WHO LIVE AMONG YOU. YOU MAY ALSO
PURCHASE THE CHILDREN OF SUCH RESIDENT FOREIGNERS,
INCLUDING THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN BORN IN YOUR LAND. YOU
MAY TREAT THEM AS YOUR PROPERTY, PASSING THEM ON TO YOUR
CHILDREN AS A PERMANENT INHERITANCE. YOU MAY TREAT YOUR
SLAVES LIKE THIS, BUT THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL, YOUR RELATIVES,
MUST NEVER BE TREATED THIS WAY .
THIS IS HOW CHRISTIANS MADE IT OKAY FOR
SLAVERY, THEYRE BIBLE ALLOWS IT, SO WHY SHOULDNT
THEY DO IT? THEY ARE JUST DOING WHAT THEYRE
BOOK ALLOWS THEM TO DO.
EXODUS 21:7-11
WHEN A MAN SELLS HIS DAUGHTER AS A SLAVE, SHE WILL NOT BE
FREED AT THE END OF SIX YEARS AS THE MEN ARE. IF SHE DOES
NOT PLEASE THE MAN WHO BOUGHT HER, HE MAY ALLOW HER TO
BE BOUGHT BACK AGAIN. BUT HE IS NOT ALLOWED TO SELL HER TO
FOREIGNERS, SINCE HE IS THE ONE WHO BROKE THE CONTRACT WITH
HER. AND IF THE SLAVE GIRL'S OWNER ARRANGES FOR HER TO
MARRY HIS SON, HE MAY NO LONGER TREAT HER AS A SLAVE GIRL,
BUT HE MUST TREAT HER AS HIS DAUGHTER. IF HE HIMSELF
MARRIES HER AND THEN TAKES ANOTHER WIFE, HE MAY NOT
REDUCE HER FOOD OR CLOTHING OR FAIL TO SLEEP WITH HER AS HIS
WIFE. IF HE FAILS IN ANY OF THESE THREE WAYS, SHE MAY LEAVE
AS A FREE WOMAN WITHOUT MAKING ANY PAYMENT.
THIS IS A SEX SLAVE. IF SHE DOESNT PLEASE THE
MASTER? HOW IS SHE SUPPOSED TO PLEASE HIM?
NOW YOU KNOW WHY THE SEX TRADE IS SO POPULAR
IN EUROPE AND CHRISTIAN COUNTRIES, BECAUSE
THEIR BOOK ALLOWS IT! THEY ARE MERELY DOING
WHAT THEIR BOOK ALLOWS.
EXODUS 21:20-21
WHEN A MAN STRIKES HIS MALE OR FEMALE SLAVE WITH A ROD SO
HARD THAT THE SLAVE DIES UNDER HIS HAND, HE SHALL BE
PUNISHED. IF, HOWEVER, THE SLAVE SURVIVES FOR A DAY OR TWO,
HE IS NOT TO BE PUNISHED, SINCE THE SLAVE IS HIS OWN
PROPERTY
SO YOU CAN BEAT THE HELL OUT OF YOUR SLAVE AS
LONG AS THE SLAVE DOES NOT DIE, THIS IS STRAIGHT
FROM THE BIBLE. WHAT IS THIS MADNESS?
And if a man sells his daughter to be a
female slave, she shall not go out as the
male slaves do. If she does not please
her master, who has betrothed her to
himself, then he shall let her be
redeemed. He shall have no right to sell
her to a foreign people, since he has
dealt deceitfully with her. And if he has
betrothed her to his son, he shall deal
with her according to the custom of
daughters. If he takes another wife, he
shall not diminish her food, her
clothing, and her marriage rights.
— Exodus 21

Lastly, I will encourage you guys to keep reading the OT which pre-dates true Christianity and leave true christians(not church-goers) to practise the teachings of Jesus in the NT.


P.S: The reason why the OT is part of the Bible is because it entails the 'history' of religion. True Christians know christianity isn't a religion. It's a RELATIONSHIP between man and God...such as the one that happens between a father and a son.

Letters killeth, but the spirit gives life.

NifemiOlu:

Falling to the face was a mode worship at that time, even till date, some churches pray in that manner, some place heads their on a desk, some stand while some just sit. What I asked was show me a text that said " bow on your face 5 times daily etc"

LOLZ PLS WHICH CHURCH DO THAT I ALSO GIVE U REFERENCE CONCERNING ABLUTION DID U DO THAT PLS EPLAIN THIS SMALL ONE
DISCRIPTION OF SOLAT IN THE BIBLE
"Ezra the scribe stood on a high wooden platform(ready for
solat) that had been made for the occasion. To his right
stood Mattithiah, Shema, Anaiah, Uriah, Hilkiah, and
Maaseiah. To his left stood Pedaiah, Mishael, Malkijah,
Hashum, Hashbaddanah, Zechariah, and
Meshullam." (Nehemiah 8:4)."And Ezra opened the book in
the sight of all the people; (for he was above all the people
(imam) and when he opened it, all the people stood
up:" (Nehemiah 8:5)."Then Ezra praised the LORD(takbiratul
iram), the great God, and all the people chanted, "Amen!
Amen!" as they lifted their hands. Then they bowed down
(rukuh) and worshiped the LORD with their faces to the
ground(sujud)." (Nehemiah 8:6).THIS IS EXACTLY HOW MUSLIM PRAY!.......

Abdulsalam20:
WHO ARE BOKO HARAM?!!
(1) Mr. John Alaku Akpavan, the
man arrested attempt to bomb
Radio House Abuja were christian.
(2) Lydia Joseph (the failed
bomber of St. John Catholic
Cathedral) of Bauchi State who
attempted to bomb a church on
September 12,2011.; was
christian.
(3) Augustine Effiong akwa ibon
indigene carry april 29th 2012
attack in connection with BUK
bomb attack.” Was christian.
(4) Emmanuel King arrested in
attempt to bomb the Redeemed
Christian Church of God (RCCG) in
Yenagoa, the Bayelsa State capital,
while camouflaged in Islamic
attire on December 28, 2011.
(5) Igbo traders that gunned
down a dozen fellow Igbo
businessmen of the same non-
Islamic faith inside the Christ
Apostolic Church, in Adamawa
State on Friday, January 6, 2012.
(6) Samson Mangai who was
arrested in Plateau state
attempting to bomb a church was
christian fellower.
(7) Madam Ruth, who attempted
to bomb the ECWA church,
Kalaring Kaltingo, in Gombe State
on 12 Mar 2012. She Was cristian
fellower.
( Case of the arrest of about
eight Christians in Bauchi in an
attempt to blast the COCIN church
on Sunday, February 26, 2012.
(9) Case of the Christian bomber
lynched while escaping after
blasting the COCIN Church of Jos
on Sunday, February 26, 2012.
(10) Mr Alex Danladi involved in
COCIN HQ bombing was lynched
by worshipers. He was a church
member disguised in military
uniform.
(11) jonathan Gyanet, police
officer was arrested attempt to
bomb ERCC church in
Akwanga nasarawa state on Apri
20 2014. Was christian.
(12) The pastor's case in Osun state still fresh in our mind# fact!
CAN WE STILL CALL IT MUSLIMS'
AGENDA?

yet all these people you mentioned quite the Koran before they carry out their nefarious acts. don't try to paint christians black for muslims acts

NifemiOlu: Lastly, I will encourage you guys to keep reading the OT which pre-dates true Christianity and leave true christians(not church-goers) to practise the teachings of Jesus in the NT.


P.S: The reason why the OT is part of the Bible is because it entails the 'history' of religion. True Christians know christianity isn't a religion. It's a RELATIONSHIP between man and God...such as the one that happens between a father and a son.

Letters killeth, but the spirit gives life.

Do not think that I [Jesus] have come to
abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to
abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until
heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the
least stroke or a pen, will by any means disappear from
the Law until everything is accomplished. (Matthew
5:17-18) " It is quite clear from these verses from the New
Testament that Jesus peace be upon him did honor the Old
Testament and did say that every single "letter" of it has to
be honored, followed and fulfilled.
"Then Jesus said to the crowds and to
his disciples: 'The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit
in Moses' seat. So you must obey them and do everything
they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not
practice what they preach.' (Matthew 23:1-3) " We clearly
see in these verses that Jesus peace be upon him did not
prohibit for the Old Testament to be followed, but only
warned his followers to not follow it the way the current
religious leaders of the Law (the Jewish Rabies) were
following it.

yazach:


Oga at the bottom, you must be the leader of 419 chai!!!!!! when it comes to 10% hun you will say is bible but when it come to strait bullet that treat your Bleep up in the bible you will say OLD TESTAMENT

And ur point is :-/

Abdulsalam20:
Do not think that I [Jesus] have come to
abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to
abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until
heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the
least stroke or a pen, will by any means disappear from
the Law until everything is accomplished. (Matthew
5:17-18) " It is quite clear from these verses from the New
Testament that Jesus peace be upon him did honor the Old
Testament and did say that every single "letter" of it has to
be honored, followed and fulfilled.
"Then Jesus said to the crowds and to
his disciples: 'The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit
in Moses' seat. So you must obey them and do everything
they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not
practice what they preach.' (Matthew 23:1-3) " We clearly
see in these verses that Jesus peace be upon him did not
prohibit for the Old Testament to be followed, but only
warned his followers to not follow it the way the current
religious leaders of the Law (the Jewish Rabies) were
following it.

Absolutely true. It's you who doesn't understand. Absolutely true. Since you seem to have a bible there, check 2 Corinthains 3:6
The OT was a shadow of what was to come, the NT. OT can't be abandoned but it can never be a guide to a Christian's life. #PeaceI'mOut

Rilwayne001:

Dear Brother,

I really like your response and your reasoning as well.

The authority didnt turn a blind eye on this issue, they have been condemning these radical muslims and there gruesome acts, but its as if the media dont want that by feigning ignorance of there condemnation. The other day of one of frosbel topic about "vaticans callings muslims to condemn christian persecution" https://www.nairaland.com/1854430/vatican-calls-muslim-leaders-condemn . If you go through the thread i showed our xtians brothers on that thread that there are strong condemnation coming from reputable muslims schololars.

Also saudi top cleric tag there acts as unislamic here.
www.nairaland.com/1864482/saudi-top-cleric-blasts-al-qaeda
But its as if our brothers here dont want to hear that, they would come to the islam section and spew hogwash about the Quran.

Infact vedaxcool has really done a good job here
https://www.nairaland.com/1843878/shocking-reason-why-muslims-dont

condemnation u say? you ve forgotten that saudi arabia is a mastermind in christian oppression? that the bible is unlawful in ur so called holy land or. country? ur arabians kill christian converts and yet u re here to talk rubbish.....take ur tym and shut ur boucal cavity. PEACE!

Timzy234:


And ur point is :-/

Clearly State But only Hippocratic don't understand it

yazach:

Clearly State But only Hippocratic don't understand it

The old testament is relevant for its history and ten commandments as well as prophesy. et.c


Do you now how christianity would be if it was the old testament?


You surely wouldn't want to live in that world, trust me.

Abdulsalam20:
SLAVERY IN THE BIBLE IS VERY WORST

LEVITICUS 25:44-46
HOWEVER, YOU MAY PURCHASE MALE OR FEMALE SLAVES FROM
AMONG THE FOREIGNERS WHO LIVE AMONG YOU. YOU MAY ALSO
PURCHASE THE CHILDREN OF SUCH RESIDENT FOREIGNERS,
INCLUDING THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN BORN IN YOUR LAND. YOU
MAY TREAT THEM AS YOUR PROPERTY, PASSING THEM ON TO YOUR
CHILDREN AS A PERMANENT INHERITANCE. YOU MAY TREAT YOUR
SLAVES LIKE THIS, BUT THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL, YOUR RELATIVES,
MUST NEVER BE TREATED THIS WAY .
THIS IS HOW CHRISTIANS MADE IT OKAY FOR
SLAVERY, THEYRE BIBLE ALLOWS IT, SO WHY SHOULDNT
THEY DO IT? THEY ARE JUST DOING WHAT THEYRE
BOOK ALLOWS THEM TO DO.
EXODUS 21:7-11
WHEN A MAN SELLS HIS DAUGHTER AS A SLAVE, SHE WILL NOT BE
FREED AT THE END OF SIX YEARS AS THE MEN ARE. IF SHE DOES
NOT PLEASE THE MAN WHO BOUGHT HER, HE MAY ALLOW HER TO
BE BOUGHT BACK AGAIN. BUT HE IS NOT ALLOWED TO SELL HER TO
FOREIGNERS, SINCE HE IS THE ONE WHO BROKE THE CONTRACT WITH
HER. AND IF THE SLAVE GIRL'S OWNER ARRANGES FOR HER TO
MARRY HIS SON, HE MAY NO LONGER TREAT HER AS A SLAVE GIRL,
BUT HE MUST TREAT HER AS HIS DAUGHTER. IF HE HIMSELF
MARRIES HER AND THEN TAKES ANOTHER WIFE, HE MAY NOT
REDUCE HER FOOD OR CLOTHING OR FAIL TO SLEEP WITH HER AS HIS
WIFE. IF HE FAILS IN ANY OF THESE THREE WAYS, SHE MAY LEAVE
AS A FREE WOMAN WITHOUT MAKING ANY PAYMENT.
THIS IS A SEX SLAVE. IF SHE DOESNT PLEASE THE
MASTER? HOW IS SHE SUPPOSED TO PLEASE HIM?
NOW YOU KNOW WHY THE SEX TRADE IS SO POPULAR
IN EUROPE AND CHRISTIAN COUNTRIES, BECAUSE
THEIR BOOK ALLOWS IT! THEY ARE MERELY DOING
WHAT THEIR BOOK ALLOWS.
EXODUS 21:20-21
WHEN A MAN STRIKES HIS MALE OR FEMALE SLAVE WITH A ROD SO
HARD THAT THE SLAVE DIES UNDER HIS HAND, HE SHALL BE
PUNISHED. IF, HOWEVER, THE SLAVE SURVIVES FOR A DAY OR TWO,
HE IS NOT TO BE PUNISHED, SINCE THE SLAVE IS HIS OWN
PROPERTY
SO YOU CAN BEAT THE HELL OUT OF YOUR SLAVE AS
LONG AS THE SLAVE DOES NOT DIE, THIS IS STRAIGHT
FROM THE BIBLE. WHAT IS THIS MADNESS?
And if a man sells his daughter to be a
female slave, she shall not go out as the
male slaves do. If she does not please
her master, who has betrothed her to
himself, then he shall let her be
redeemed. He shall have no right to sell
her to a foreign people, since he has
dealt deceitfully with her. And if he has
betrothed her to his son, he shall deal
with her according to the custom of
daughters. If he takes another wife, he
shall not diminish her food, her
clothing, and her marriage rights.
— Exodus 21

i have answer this qustion before but you keep on reapeating it.in the old testament the people live by the law and whe you break it, you will pay accordingly, but now we are save by his grace, what is grace?grace is unmarited favour from God, i do not deserve to be save but by his(jesus) grace am save. You guys in the arab live by the law denying the grace of God.moerover were in the new testament we are encourage to own a slave? But quran say slave is a gift from allah the girls are called booty.

Abdulsalam20:
WHO ARE BOKO HARAM?!!
(1) Mr. John Alaku Akpavan, the
man arrested attempt to bomb
Radio House Abuja were christian.
(2) Lydia Joseph (the failed
bomber of St. John Catholic
Cathedral) of Bauchi State who
attempted to bomb a church on
September 12,2011.; was
christian.
(3) Augustine Effiong akwa ibon
indigene carry april 29th 2012
attack in connection with BUK
bomb attack.” Was christian.
(4) Emmanuel King arrested in
attempt to bomb the Redeemed
Christian Church of God (RCCG) in
Yenagoa, the Bayelsa State capital,
while camouflaged in Islamic
attire on December 28, 2011.
(5) Igbo traders that gunned
down a dozen fellow Igbo
businessmen of the same non-
Islamic faith inside the Christ
Apostolic Church, in Adamawa
State on Friday, January 6, 2012.
(6) Samson Mangai who was
arrested in Plateau state
attempting to bomb a church was
christian fellower.
(7) Madam Ruth, who attempted
to bomb the ECWA church,
Kalaring Kaltingo, in Gombe State
on 12 Mar 2012. She Was cristian
fellower.
( Case of the arrest of about
eight Christians in Bauchi in an
attempt to blast the COCIN church
on Sunday, February 26, 2012.
(9) Case of the Christian bomber
lynched while escaping after
blasting the COCIN Church of Jos
on Sunday, February 26, 2012.
(10) Mr Alex Danladi involved in
COCIN HQ bombing was lynched
by worshipers. He was a church
member disguised in military
uniform.
(11) jonathan Gyanet, police
officer was arrested attempt to
bomb ERCC church in
Akwanga nasarawa state on Apri
20 2014. Was christian.
(12) The pastor's case in Osun state still fresh in our mind# fact!
CAN WE STILL CALL IT MUSLIMS'
AGENDA?

you don't get it, firstly, there is no evidence that these people you name are Christians. You are just being presumptuous. How do we know for example that there are now Pagans, Buddhists, Enkankar, etc.

We know Muslim terrorists because they kill in the name of Allah and the Prophet Mohammed. They declare it for the world to hear. Infact, they take great care that you know who they are and in whose name they are killing.

Have you ever seen Christians killing in the name of Jesus Christ. In fact have you ever seen any other religion in these modern times killing and bombing in the name of their god?

The answer is no. It is only when Muslims should admit they have a big problem that they can start dealing with the problems within themselves.

boykas:



you said on christians and jews.....Remember.. which people,,is it not the same people that that wage war in His home town and send him and out until he bow to the idol they worship..please read about Him before making a false accusation on Him.He wage war on idol worshipers...get a life and stop lieing

Muhammad b. Ka'b al-Qurazi: When the messenger of God saw
how his tribe turned their backs on him and was grieved to see
them
shunning the message he had brought to them from God, he
longed
in his soul that something would come to him from God which would
reconcile him with his tribe. With his love for his tribe and his
eagerness for their welfare it would have delighted him if some of
the difficulties which they made for him could have been
smoothed out, and he debated with himself and fervently desired
such an outcome. Then God revealed 171)
"By the Star when it sets, your comrade does not err, nor is he
deceived; nor does he speak out of (his own) desire..." and when he
came to the words: Have you thought upon al-Lat and al-Uzza and
Manat, the third, the
other? Satan cast on his tongue, because of his inner debates and what he
desired to bring to his people, the words: "These are the high flying
cranes; verily their intercession is accepted
with approval.
(172) When Quraysh heard this, they rejoiced and were happy and
delighted at the way in which he spoke of their gods, and they listened to him, while the Muslims, having complete trust in their
prophet in respect of the messages which he brought from God, did
not suspect him of error, illusion, or mistake. When he came to the
prostration, having completed the surah, he prostrated himself and
the Muslims did likewise, following their prophet, trusting in the
message which he had brought and following his example.the pagans even prostrate with him.this development was so pleasant
to the quraysh that some people say the quraysh has accepted
islam.
Then Gabriel came to the Messenger of God and said,
"Muhammad, what have you done? You have recited to the people
that which I did not bring to you from God, and you have said that which was not said to you." Then the messenger of God was much
grieved and feared God greatly, but God sent down a revelation to
him, for He was merciful to him, consoling him and making the
matter light for him, informing him that there had never been a
prophet or a messenger before him who desired as he desired and
wished as he wished but that Satan had cast words into his recitation, as he had cast words on Muhammad's tongue. Then God
cancelled
what Satan had thus cast, and established his verses by telling him
that he was like other prophets and messengers, and revealed:
"Never did we send a messenger or a prophet before you but that
when he recited (the Message) Satan cast words into his recitation (umniyyah). God abrogates what Satan casts. The God established
his
verses. God is knower, wise. (174) Thus God removed the sorrow
from his messenger, reassured him
about that which he had feared and cancelled the words which
Satan had cast on his tongue, that their gods were the high flying cranes
whose intercession was accepted with approval. He now revealed,
following the mention of "al-Lat, al-Uzza and Manat, the third, the
other," the words: "Are yours the males and his the females? That
indeed were an unfair
division! They are but names which you have named, you and your
fathers." to the words: to whom he wills and accept (175) This
means, how can the intercession of their gods avail with God?
When Muhammad brought a revelation from God canceling what
Satan had cast on the tongue of His prophet, the Quraysh
said,"Muhammad has repented of what he said concerning the position of your gods with God, and has altered it and brought
something else." Those two phrases which Satan had cast on the
tongue of the Messenger of God were in the mouth of every
polytheists, and they became even more ill-disposed and more
violent in their persecution of those of them who had accepted
Islam and followed the messenger of God.

I HAVE ALREADY PROVE U WRONG FOR THIS IN A THREAD WHICH EVEN MAKE U RUN AWAY PLS WHY DEFACING ISLAM?........THIS IS HYPOCRACY..........REFER TO THE THREAD AND IF U LIKE I CAN POST IT HERE FOR U AGAIN.......BUT SERIOUSLY WHAT U DID IS ANNOYING I HAVE PROVE U WRONG BUT U DONT WANT TO REALISE THE TRUTH

malvisguy212: Muhammad b. Ka'b al-Qurazi: When the messenger of God saw
how his tribe turned their backs on him and was grieved to see
them
shunning the message he had brought to them from God, he
longed
in his soul that something would come to him from God which would
reconcile him with his tribe. With his love for his tribe and his
eagerness for their welfare it would have delighted him if some of
the difficulties which they made for him could have been
smoothed out, and he debated with himself and fervently desired
such an outcome. Then God revealed 171)
"By the Star when it sets, your comrade does not err, nor is he
deceived; nor does he speak out of (his own) desire..." and when he
came to the words: Have you thought upon al-Lat and al-Uzza and
Manat, the third, the
other? Satan cast on his tongue, because of his inner debates and what he
desired to bring to his people, the words: "These are the high flying
cranes; verily their intercession is accepted
with approval.
(172) When Quraysh heard this, they rejoiced and were happy and
delighted at the way in which he spoke of their gods, and they listened to him, while the Muslims, having complete trust in their
prophet in respect of the messages which he brought from God, did
not suspect him of error, illusion, or mistake. When he came to the
prostration, having completed the surah, he prostrated himself and
the Muslims did likewise, following their prophet, trusting in the
message which he had brought and following his example.the pagans even prostrate with him.this development was so pleasant
to the quraysh that some people say the quraysh has accepted
islam.
Then Gabriel came to the Messenger of God and said,
"Muhammad, what have you done? You have recited to the people
that which I did not bring to you from God, and you have said that which was not said to you." Then the messenger of God was much
grieved and feared God greatly, but God sent down a revelation to
him, for He was merciful to him, consoling him and making the
matter light for him, informing him that there had never been a
prophet or a messenger before him who desired as he desired and
wished as he wished but that Satan had cast words into his recitation, as he had cast words on Muhammad's tongue. Then God
cancelled
what Satan had thus cast, and established his verses by telling him
that he was like other prophets and messengers, and revealed:
"Never did we send a messenger or a prophet before you but that
when he recited (the Message) Satan cast words into his recitation (umniyyah). God abrogates what Satan casts. The God established
his
verses. God is knower, wise. (174) Thus God removed the sorrow
from his messenger, reassured him
about that which he had feared and cancelled the words which
Satan had cast on his tongue, that their gods were the high flying cranes
whose intercession was accepted with approval. He now revealed,
following the mention of "al-Lat, al-Uzza and Manat, the third, the
other," the words: "Are yours the males and his the females? That
indeed were an unfair
division! They are but names which you have named, you and your
fathers." to the words: to whom he wills and accept (175) This
means, how can the intercession of their gods avail with God?
When Muhammad brought a revelation from God canceling what
Satan had cast on the tongue of His prophet, the Quraysh
said,"Muhammad has repented of what he said concerning the position of your gods with God, and has altered it and brought
something else." Those two phrases which Satan had cast on the
tongue of the Messenger of God were in the mouth of every
polytheists, and they became even more ill-disposed and more
violent in their persecution of those of them who had accepted
Islam and followed the messenger of God.

I HAVE ALREADY PROVE U WRONG FOR THIS IN A THREAD WHICH EVEN MAKE U RUN AWAY PLS WHY DEFACING ISLAM?........THIS IS HYPOCRACY..........REFER TO THE THREAD AND IF U LIKE I CAN POST IT HERE FOR U AGAIN.......BUT SERIOUSLY WHAT U DID IS ANNOYING I HAVE PROVE U WRONG BUT U DONT WANT TO REALISE THE TRUTH.........

Abdulsalam20:

I HAVE ALREADY PROVE U WRONG FOR THIS IN A THREAD WHICH EVEN MAKE U RUN AWAY PLS WHY DEFACING ISLAM?........THIS IS HYPOCRACY..........REFER TO THE THREAD AND IF U LIKE I CAN POST IT HERE FOR U AGAIN.......BUT SERIOUSLY WHAT U DID IS ANNOYING I HAVE PROVE U WRONG BUT U DONT WANT TO REALISE THE TRUTH.........

post it let see, i did not run,your moderator' ban me and delete my post for reaveling the truth in your quran.

Op citing from the instance u gave, OAU curriculum does not contain the teaching of violence, the students can never say there is a course that teach them the practice occultism, those indulge in it does so on their own. But in the case of islam violence, jihadism, hate and unforgiveness are all fundamental teachings against a none muslim, islam teaches about total annihilation of those that will not believe in ur satanic allah. You just consider the life that ur slowpoke mohammad lived, u will agree that terrorism started from him and till today every muslim is a potential terrorist but u can't say d same about our Lord Jesus Christ, His doctrine and d life we christian lives. You just study the life and doctrine of Jesus with the epistle of the apostles they will really help u.

@OP, Have you bothered to ask Why God asked Saul to kill every Amalekites? When you have the answer, then you will understand that God uses humans/ Nations to carry out his divine punishment. Eg Babylon destroyed Jerusalem/Isrealites around, Romans destroyed Jerusalem during the first century, Tyre, Edom, Nineveh and Babylon being desolate; all these were God's judicial judgement.

The fact that God used Humans to carry out his judgment rather than Natural disaster like the flood of Noah's time or Fire of Sodom/Gomorah does not mean it is Genocide.

Moses, Joshua, Sampson and David killed people not primarily/Solely because of their religion but because of their Nation. In those Era, you can't afford to be non-combatant Nation else you get plundered/annihalated. It was customary for kings to venture out and conquer other lands. You can't afford to be on the defensive everytime/ experience siege.

God or pure worship is hardly to blame for what Man do to one another. Keep in mine that David was not allowed to build the temple because of blood on his hands due to warfare.

RikoduoSennin: @OP, Have you bothered to ask Why God asked Saul to kill every Amalekites? When you have the answer, then you will understand that God uses humans/ Nations to carry out his divine punishment. Eg Babylon destroyed Jerusalem/Isrealites around, Romans destroyed Jerusalem during the first century, Tyre, Edom, Nineveh and Babylon being desolate; all these were God's judicial judgement.

The fact that God used Humans to carry out his judgment rather than Natural disaster like the flood of Noah's time or Fire of Sodom/Gomorah does not mean it is Genocide.

Moses, Joshua, Sampson and David killed people not primarily/Solely because of their religion but because of their Nation. In those Era, you can't afford to be non-combatant Nation else you get plundered/annihalated. It was customary for kings to venture out and conquer other lands. You can't afford to be on the defensive everytime/ experience siege.

God or pure worship is hardly to blame for what Man do to one another. Keep in mine that David was not allowed to build the temple because of blood on his hands due to warfare.

My guy sharrap.

You are on the one hand saying that when God sent Saul, David and Moses to kill other people, it is not genocide

Why dont you allow boko haram to slaughter you and your people? After all, they claim that God sent them.


Oh....wait!! Boko haram is not justified? Why? Because it is not your God abi? One rule for your God while another for other Gods?


meennnn f4ck religion.

logicboy01:


My guy sharrap.

Now that is plain rude. *** cyber bully*** hope you feel better now? Intelligent beings express themselves without abusive speech. Do you find these in scientific discussion during seminars?

In real life (face to face), words like this is very serious not to mention in cyber space.

logicboy01:
You are on the one hand saying that when God sent Saul, David and Moses to kill other people, it is not genocide

Why dont you allow boko haram to slaughter you and your people? After all, they claim that God sent them.


Oh....wait!! Boko haram is not justified? Why? Because it is not your God abi? One rule for your God while another for other Gods?

Is boko haram a state on its own? Are they threatened by another state? Are they living in those war era's (iron age)? Wrong comparism! You did not read my comment above. You merely skimmed through it, got yourself angry and started posting.

Cool down, Why did Moses, Joshua , David fight War? Answer: To defend God's people- the nation of Isreal. Without fighting those wars they would be eradicated and the messiah/Jesus would not have come nor fulfil prophesies.

Compare what Moses , Joshua and David did to what Isreal and US are doing today. Though both Isreal and US are fighting to protect their citizen/way of life, Ancient Isreal was about their religion/way of life.

After Jesus came, a new Isreal of all Nations came into existence, hence, People everywhere are one and they should not join war nor kill anymore. People from Every Nation not just physical Isreal are all God's people, after all, Christ died for all.

logicboy01:
meennnn f4ck religion.

That is why you don't know anything about religion and should not be commenting on what you do not know. Any comment you make here is flawed due to your lack of objectivity.

Why don't you ignore some thread where you comments won't be valued. Discussion about atheist best suit you.

RikoduoSennin:

Now that is plain rude. *** cyber bully*** hope you feel better now? Intelligent beings express themselves without abusive speech. Do you find these in scientific discussion during seminars?

In real life (face to face), words like this is very serious not to mention in cyber space.



Is boko haram a state on its own? Are they threatened by another state? Are they living in those war era's (iron age)? Wrong comparism! You did not read my comment above. You merely skimmed through it, got yourself angry and started posting.

Cool down, Why did Moses, Joshua , David fight War? Answer: To defend God's people- the nation of Isreal. Without fighting those wars they would be eradicated and the messiah/Jesus would not have come nor fulfil prophesies.

Compare what Moses , Joshua and David did to what Isreal and US are doing today. Though both Isreal and US are fighting to protect their citizen/way of life, Ancient Isreal was about their religion/way of life.

After Jesus came, a new Isreal of all Nations came into existence, hence, People everywhere are one and they should not join war nor kill anymore. People from Every Nation not just physical Isreal are all God's people, after all, Christ died for all.



That is why you don't know anything about religion and should not be commenting on what you do not know. Any comment you make here is flawed due to your lack of objectivity.

Why don't you ignore some thread where you comments won't be valued. Discussion about atheist best suit you.

Who told you isrealite/jews are God's people? Is your God a racist?

Who told you that biblical Isreal was a nation? A desert people divided into tribes? The original bible never used the word "nation". Saul, Moses etc were not defending a nation.


You have no objectivity when it comes to your religion. War is only justified in self defence. Slaughtering people for no other reason is genocide.



Please, do not justify genocide in the bible....even modern Jews avoid those parts of the bible

You did a good thing posting that atleast we now know all Muslims are not terrorists but I think u Muslims still have a lot of work in teaching dos that don't understand. If 1million misunderstands then the quran is not straight. So go and teach boko haram and sadan Hussein.

My second point is,there is a diff bw Judaism and Christianity. Also Saul war and biblical wars were not religious like that of the quran where they were ordered to slay the pegan or unbelievers, even if it is war then it is a religious war.

I have never read the quran anyway and would love to read it but I see Islamic religion as full of violence because of what I see the islamistd do and not what I hear. I guess u cud not handle the peaceful teachings of Jesus Christ.

More importantly, from our bible Christians never fought wars. They rather allowed themselves to be persecuted while preaching the word, they cud have slaughtered all that persecuted them rather they followed the teaching that blessed are those who are persecuted for God's sake. Not slayed unbelievers. They went to prisons, brutally murdered etc but never rioted let alone went to war.

That is ahy a Christian can never be a terrorist. Saul was a Jew not a Christian. Isrealites are more of Jews and still find wars with other arabaic countries which are the Islamic terrorists we are referring to. With this u will see that the quran didn't preach peace with the above quote u gave as the bible did to christtians.

U can still become a Christian today to save your soul.

Abdulsalam20:
I WILL EVEN SHOW U THAT ALL PROPHET DID IT
ISLAM WAS TAUGHT BY EVERY SINGLE PROPHET THAT CAME BEFORE
THE PROPHET MUHAMMAD, NOAH, ABRAHAM, MOSES, AND JESUS
ALL TAUGHT AND PREACHED ISLAM. INCLUDING THE OTHER MANY
PROPHETS SUCH AS JACOB, ISHMAEL, JOSEPH, AND ISAAC! AND ALL
THE PROPHETS... PRAYED AS THE MUSLIM TODAY PRAY , OF COURSE
THIS INCLUDE JESUS AND HIS DISCIPLES
* MUSLIMS (THOSE WHO SUBMIT TO THE WILL OF GOD) PERFORM
ABLUTION BEFORE PRAYER
THEN DAVID AROSE FROM THE EARTH AND WASHED AND ANOINTED
HIMSELF AND CHANGED HIS CLOTHES. AND HE WENT INTO THE HOUSE
OF THE LORD AND WORSHIPED ( SAMUEL 12:20 )
THEY SHALL WASH THEIR HANDS AND THEIR FEET ( EXODUS 30:21 )
WITH WHICH MOSES AND AARON AND HIS SONS WASHED THEIR
HANDS AND THEIR FEET. ( EXODUS 40:31 )
* THE FIRST POSITION OF PRAYER, MUSLIMS LIFT UP THEIR HANDS
PALMS OUT AT THE SIDE OF THE HEAD
SO I WILL BLESS YOU AS LONG AS I LIVE
IN YOUR NAME I WILL LIFT UP MY HANDS. (PSALM 63:4 )
AND EZRA BLESSED THE LORD, THE GREAT GOD, AND ALL THE PEOPLE
ANSWERED,(A) “AMEN, AMEN,”(B) LIFTING UP THEIR HANDS. AND
THEY BOWED THEIR HEADS AND WORSHIPED THE LORD WITH THEIR
FACES TO THE GROUND.(NEHEMIAH 8:6 )
* WHEN THE MUSLIMS PRAY, THEY FELL ON THEIR FACES
THEN ABRAM FELL ON HIS FACE. AND GOD SAID TO HIM(GENESIS
17:3 )
THEN MOSES AND AARON WENT FROM THE PRESENCE OF THE
ASSEMBLY TO THE ENTRANCE OF THE TENT OF MEETING AND FELL ON
THEIR FACES. AND THE GLORY OF THE LORD APPEARED TO THEM,
(NUMBERS 20:6 )
THEN JOSHUA TORE HIS CLOTHES AND FELL TO THE EARTH ON HIS FACE
BEFORE THE ARK OF THE LORD (JOSHUA 7:6 ).
WHEN ALL THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL SAW THE FIRE COME DOWN AND THE
GLORY OF THE LORD ON THE TEMPLE, THEY BOWED DOWN WITH THEIR
FACES TO THE GROUND (2 CHRONICLES 7:3 )
AND EZRA BLESSED THE LORD, THE GREAT GOD, AND ALL THE PEOPLE
ANSWERED,(A) “AMEN, AMEN,”(B) LIFTING UP THEIR HANDS.(C)
AND THEY BOWED THEIR HEADS AND WORSHIPED THE LORD WITH
THEIR FACES TO THE GROUND.(NEHEMIAH 8:6 )
** JESUS PRAYING TO GOD
”AND GOING A LITTLE FARTHER HE FELL ON HIS FACE AND
PRAYED”( MATTHEW 26:39 )
** EVEN JESUS’ DISCIPLES SUBMITTED AS MUSLIMS
WHEN THE DISCIPLES HEARD THIS, THEY FELL ON THEIR FACES AND
WERE TERRIFIED”( MATTHEW 17:6 )
AND ELIJAH WENT UP TO THE TOP OF MOUNT CARMEL, AND HE BOWED
HIMSELF DOWN ON THE EARTH AND PUT HIS FACE BETWEEN HIS
KNEES.(1 KINGS 18: 42 )
AND ALL THE ANGELS WERE STANDING AROUND THE THRONE AND
AROUND THE ELDERS AND THE FOUR LIVING CREATURES, AND THEY FELL
ON THEIR FACES BEFORE THE THRONE AND WORSHIPED GOD,
(REVELATIONS 7:11 )
OH COME, LET US WORSHIP AND BOW DOWN
LET US KNEEL BEFORE THE LORD, OUR MAKER! (PSALM 95:6 )
ALL THE PROSPEROUS OF THE EARTH EAT AND WORSHIP
BEFORE HIM SHALL BOW ALL WHO GO DOWN TO THE DUST( PSALM
22:29 )
NOW MANOAH AND HIS WIFE WERE WATCHING, AND THEY FELL ON
THEIR FACES TO THE GROUND. (JUDGES 13:20 )
AND WHEN ALL THE PEOPLE SAW IT, THEY FELL ON THEIR FACES AND
SAID, “THE LORD, HE IS GOD; THE LORD, HE IS GOD.”( 1 KINGS
18:39 )
DAVID ROSE FROM BESIDE THE STONE HEAP AND FELL ON HIS FACE TO
THE GROUND( 1 SAMUEL 20: 41 )
AND JOSHUA FELL ON HIS FACE TO THE EARTH AND WORSHIPED
(JOSHUA 5:14 )
WHEN ABRAHAM’S SERVANT HEARD THEIR WORDS, HE BOWED
HIMSELF TO THE EARTH BEFORE THE LORD.(GENESIS 24:52 )
ISLAM IN BIBLE ••••►BOWING AND PROSTRATING ON THE GROUND
• JESUS (PBUH)
AND HE WENT A LITTLE FARTHER, AND FELL ON HIS FACE, AND PRAYED,
SAYING, O MY FATHER, IF IT BE POSSIBLE, LET THIS CUP PASS FROM
ME: NEVERTHELESS NOT AS I WILL, BUT AS THOU [WILT.]. (MATTHEW
26:39)
• MOSES (PBUH)
AND MOSES BOWED TO THE GROUND AND WORSHIPED. (EXODUS
34:
• MOSES AND AARON (PBUT) :
THEN MOSES AND AARON WENT AWAY FROM THE ASSEMBLY TO THE
ENTRANCE OF THE TENT OF MEETING AND FELL ON THEIR FACES…
(NUMBERS 20:6)
• ABRAHAM (PBUH)
THEN ABRAM FELL ON HIS FACE. (GENESIS 17:3)
• ABRAHAM’S SERVANT :
WHEN ABRAHAM’S SERVANT HEARD THEIR WORDS, HE BOWED
HIMSELF TO THE GROUND BEFORE THE LORD. (GENESIS 24:52)
• JOSHUA (PBUH) :
AND JOSHUA FELL ON HIS FACE TO THE EARTH AND WORSHIPED
(JOSHUA 5:14).
• EZRA AND THE PEOPLE :
THEN THEY BOWED THEIR HEADS AND WORSHIPED THE LORD WITH
THEIR FACES TO THE GROUND. (NEHEMIAH 8:6)
JESUS IS A MUSLIM: JESUS USING THE WORD "MUSLIM" IN LUKE
6:40:
LET US LOOK AT LUKE 6:40 FROM MY N.I.V. BIBLE "A STUDENT IS
NOT ABOVE HIS TEACHER, BUT EVERYONE WHO IS FULLY TRAINED WILL
BE LIKE HIS TEACHER."

My brother, lifting ones hand and bowing heads is a mode of prayer, it signifies respect, humbleness etc Muslims, Christians, Buddhist, Jews, hinduist, even idolist pray like that.I guess they are teach Islamic cos There's somewhere it is written that only Muslims can lift up their hands and bow their head and pray. U guys are funny o. Christ prayed as d spirit directed

sciyhf:

My brother, lifting ones hand and bowing heads is a mode of prayer, it signifies respect, humbleness etc Muslims, Christians, Buddhist, Jews, hinduist, even idolist pray like that.I guess they are teach Islamic cos There's somewhere it is written that only Muslims can lift up their hands and bow their head and pray. U guys are funny o. Christ prayed as d spirit directed

I POSTED IT FOR THE CHRISTIANS WHO ALWAYS BLAME MUSLIMS FOR PRAYING SOLATWHERE AS IT IS WRITTEN IN THEIR BIBLE BUT BECAUSE THEY ARE LOST LOOK AT THE WAY THEY ARE PRAYING DANCING AS IF THEY ARE IN CLUB WOMEN SINGING IN CHURCH WHEN THEY ARE COMMANDED TO DESIST ROM IT
THE BIBLE SAID WOMEN SHOULD NOT TALK IN
CHURCH U PEOPLE WENT TO ORGANISE CHOIR EVEN NOW
WOMEN ARE NOW PASTORS( - I Corinthians 14:34-35: Let
your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not
permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be
under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn
any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a
shame for women to speak in the church.
BIBLE SAY WOMEN SHOULD COVER THEIR HEAD BUT THEY NEVER LISTEN THEY FOLOW IT HALF WAY U WILL SEE A LADY PUTTING ON CAP TO CHURCH AND HER HAIR IS PARTLY SHOWING
( 1 Corinthians 11:5, says that “Every woman who
prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonours her
head, for that is one and the same as if her head were
shaved) WHEN AREGBESHOLA RAISED THE ISSUE OF
COVERING HEAD IN OSUN CAN OPPOSE IT WHAT AN ANTI
CHRIST i know u will said it is only when they want topray
pls dont children pray in school on assembly ground.....dont
they pray before eating?
JESUS SAY DONT ACCEPT INTEREST THEY NEVER LISTEN
Exodus
22:25 “If thou lend money to any of my people with thee that
is poor, thou shalt not be to him as a creditor; neither shall
ye lay upon him interest.” Similar message is also repeated
in the Book of Deuteronomy: Deuteronomy 23:19 "Thou shalt
not lend upon interest to thy brother; interest of money,
interest of victuals, interest of anything that is lent upon
interest
THE WORST OF ALL JESUS SAY GOD IS ONE THEY SAID GOD IS 3 Jesus rejected to be called good. Mark 10:8 states: “And
Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none
good but one, that is, God.” When Jesus spoke of God, he
referred to Him as: "My Father and your Father, and to My
God and your God." (John 20:17)
Jesus never said “I am God; worship me” Rather He (Jesus
told) people to worship God alone, not himself or three gods
in Trinity. And he also worshipped God: “Thou shalt worship
the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.”
And Jesus Christ never worshipped himself, but rather he
worshipped God and instructed men to worship Him alone.
He said in Luke 4:8 that: “For it is written, Thou shalt worship
the Lord thy God, and him only shalt you serve.” (Mathew
4:10) Mark 12:29 reads: “And Jesus answered him, The first
of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God
is one Lord” See also Deut. 4:35 which says “the LORD he is
God; there is THERE IS NONE BESIDE HIM.”
Exodus 34:14 says: “For thou shalt worship no other god: for
the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God”.
AND THE WORST OF ALL JESUS PROPHESISE ABOUT MUHAMMAD THEY NEVER FOLLOW HIM

PROPHET MUHAMMAD (pbuh) IN THE BIBLE
by Dr. Zakir Naik
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) in the Old Testament:
The Qur’an mentions in Surah Al-Araf chapter 7 verse 157:
"Those who follow the Messenger, the unlettered Prophet,
whom they
find mentioned in their own (scriptures) in the law and the
Gospel".
1. MUHAMMAD (PBUH) PROPHESISED IN THE BOOK OF
DEUTERONOMY:
Almighty God speaks to Moses in Book of Deuteronomy
chapter 18 verse 18:
"I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren,
like
unto thee, and I will put my words in his mouth; and he
shall speak unto them all that I shall command him."
The Christians say that this prophecy refers to Jesus (pbuh)
because Jesus (pbuh) was like Moses (pbuh). Moses (pbuh)
was a Jew, as well as Jesus (pbuh) was a Jew. Moses
(pbuh)
was a Prophet and Jesus (pbuh) was also a Prophet.
If these two are the only criteria for this prophecy to be
fulfilled, then all the Prophets of the Bible who came after
Moses (pbuh) such as Solomon, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Daniel,
Hosea, Joel, Malachi, John the Baptist, etc. (pbut) will
fulfill this prophecy since all were Jews as well as prophets.
However, it is Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) who is like Moses
(pbuh):
i) Both had a father and a mother, while Jesus (pbuh) was
born miraculously without any male intervention.
[Mathew 1:18 and Luke 1:35 and also Al-Qur'an 3:42-47]
ii) Both were married and had children. Jesus (pbuh)
according to the Bible did not marry nor had children.
iii) Both died natural deaths. Jesus (pbuh) has been raised
up
alive. (4:157-158)
Muhammad (pbuh) is from among the brethren of Moses
(pbuh). Arabs are brethren of Jews. Abraham (pbuh) had two
sons: Ishmail and Isaac (pbut). The Arabs are the
descendants of Ishmail (pbuh) and the Jews are the
descendants of Isaac (pbuh).
Words in the mouth:
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was unlettered and whatever
revelations he received from Almighty God he repeated them
verbatim.
"I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren,
like
unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall
speak unto them all that I shall command him."
[Deuteronomy 18:18]
iv) Both besides being Prophets were also kings i.e. they
could
inflict capital punishment. Jesus (pbuh) said, "My
kingdom is not of this world." (John 18:36).
v) Both were accepted as Prophets by their people in their
lifetime but Jesus (pbuh) was rejected by his
people. John chapter 1 verse 11 states, "He came unto his
own, but his own received him not."
iv) Both brought new laws and new regulations for their
people. Jesus (pbuh) according to the Bible did not bring
any new laws. (Mathew 5:17-18) .
2. It is Mentioned in the book of Deuteronomy chapter 18:19
"And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not harken
unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will
require it of him."
3. Muhammad (pbuh) is prophesised in the book of Isaiah:
It is mentioned in the book of Isaiah chapter 29 verse 12:
"And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying,
Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned."
When Archangel Gabrail commanded Muhammad (pbuh) by
saying Iqra - "Read", he replied, "I am not learned" .
4. prophet Muhammad (pbuh) mentioned by name in the old
testament:
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is mentioned by name in the
Song
of Solomon chapter 5 verse 16:
" Hikko Mamittakim we kullo Muhammadim Zehdoodeh wa
Zehraee Bayna Jerusalem ."
"His mouth is most sweet: yea, he is altogether lovely. This is
my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters
of Jerusalem."
In the Hebrew language im is added for respect. Similarely im
is added after the name of Prophet Muhammad
(pbuh) to make it Muhammadim. In English translation they
have even translated the name of Prophet Muhammad
(pbuh) as "altogether lovely", but in the Old Testament in
Hebrew, the name of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is yet
present.
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) in the New Testament:
Al-Qur'an Chapter 61 Verse 6:
"And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said, 'O Children of
Israel! I
am the messenger of Allah (sent) to you, confirming the Law
(which
came) before me and giving glad tidings of a messenger to
come
after me, whose name shall be Ahmed.' But when he came to
them
with clear signs, they said, 'This is evident sorcery!' "
All the prophecies mentioned in the Old Testament regarding
Muhammad (pbuh) besides applying to the Jews also hold
good for
the Christians.
1. John chapter 14 verse 16:
"And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another
Comforter, that he may abide with you forever."
2. Gospel of John chapter 15 verse 26:
"But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you
from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which
proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me."
3. Gospel of John chapter 16 verse 7:
"Nevertheless I tell you the truth; it is expedient for you that I
go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not
come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you".
"Ahmed" or "Muhammad" meaning "the one who praises" or
"the praised one" is almost the translation of the
Greek word Periclytos. In the Gospel of John 14:16, 15:26,
and
16:7. The word 'Comforter' is used in the English
translation for the Greek word Paracletos which means
advocate or a kind friend rather than a comforter.
Paracletos is the warped reading for Periclytos. Jesus (pbuh)
actually prophesised Ahmed by name. Even the
Greek word Paraclete refers to the Prophet (pbuh) who is a
mercy for all creatures.
Some Christians say that the Comforter mentioned in these
prophecies refers to the Holy Sprit. They fail to realise
that the prophecy clearly says that only if Jesus (pbuh)
departs will the Comforter come. The Bible states that the
Holy Spirit was already present on earth before and during
the
time of Jesus (pbuh), in the womb of Elizabeth, and again
when Jesus (pbuh) was being baptised, etc. Hence this
prophecy refers to none other than Prophet
Muhammad (pbuh).
4. Gospel of John chapter 16 verse 12-14:
"I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear
them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth is
come, he will guide you unto all truth: for he shall not speak
of
himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak:
and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me".
The Sprit of Truth, spoken about in this prophecy referes to
none
other than Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)
NOTE : All quotations of the Bible are taken from the King
James
Version.
Reference: http://www.irf.net/irf/comparativereligion/
index.htm

sciyhf: You did a good thing posting that atleast we now know all Muslims are not terrorists but I think u Muslims still have a lot of work in teaching dos that don't understand. If 1million misunderstands then the quran is not straight. So go and teach boko haram and sadan Hussein.

Okay, if the buybull is straightforward why do we have over 5000sect in xtianity

Meanwhile, if 1million fanatic individual misundrrstand the Quran among over 1.2billions in the world, do you think we can tagg those 1.199billions as a fanatic group

sciyhf: My second point is,there is a diff bw Judaism and Christianity. Also Saul war and biblical wars were not religious like that of the quran where they were ordered to slay the pegan or unbelievers, even if it is war then it is a religious war.

Is the jewish God different from that of xtianity

Bible OT ordered for killing of those who worship another god aside God of Israel otherwise pagans - Yes or No

sciyhf: I have never read the quran anyway and would love to read it but I see Islamic religion as full of violence because of what I see the islamistd do and not what I hear. I guess u cud not handle the peaceful teachings of Jesus Christ.

You can't just conclude that islam is full of violence with the actions of a minority radical peeps

sciyhf: More importantly, from our bible Christians never fought wars. They rather allowed themselves to be persecuted while preaching the word, they cud have slaughtered all that persecuted them rather they followed the teaching that blessed are those who are persecuted for God's sake. Not slayed unbelievers. They went to prisons, brutally murdered etc but never rioted let alone went to war.

That is ahy a Christian can never be a terrorist. Saul was a Jew not a Christian. Isrealites are more of Jews and still find wars with other arabaic countries which are the Islamic terrorists we are referring to. With this u will see that the quran didn't preach peace with the above quote u gave as the bible did to christtians.

U can still become a Christian today to save your soul.

You are ignorant, and i dont have to waste my time with you, i asked some questions on the number (1) page of this thrread, please address them if you want me to take you serious