sarutobie:
sentiment sentiment and more sentiments! my younger sister is studying English in abia state university, she pays about 150k per session (some faculties and departments pay almost double)..now since you agree the private universities shouldn't charge less or equal to the government owned universities, how much then will be "affordable"? 200k? 300k? maybe 400k? mind you a lot of people cant even afford the "cheap" 150k they charge for my sister's tuition in the government owned school..

frosbel: So this heartless man uses money from 80% of his congregation to build universities that 80% of them cannot attend ??

bushdoc9919:

OK...let us assume that Oyedepo decides to charge N15000 per semester so that all those poor members of his church can attend .

Assuming 10,000 Students attend...that gives us N150 m naira per annum.

Out of that , he has to pay staff salaries (and paying one lecturer is about N400,000 monthly in a FEDERAL university) and other staff salaries,maintenance costs, etc.

All that costs far more than N150m he gets per annum.

Note that Oyedepo gets zero funding from the government.
So where is he going to get money from? The air?

Some of you Nigerians should stop behaving as if there is a bottomless pit of cash. There isn't.

(And I am not a member of Oyedepo's church, neither am I his fan).

Titiluvly:


That's My Papa...Exceeding Grace Sir!....

bigtt76: While I will agree with you that he gets no funding and what is realized as school fees may not be enough to run the school ....Bishop should not come out and say people spend 1 million naira on burials as if every Nigerian out there has the 1 million naira or happy to spend such on burial.

Truth is if the church today wants to help the poor in the society as the missionaries did back then ...they certainly can do it. Imagine the two ebola infected people flown back to US were all missionaries ...how many of those church people volunteered to assist at the Lagos isolation center?

nora544:

When i read this, this remember me what i read on the website of madonna University from Nigeruia it is also a private University, i know it is a catholic UNiversity and they wrote that students who want to study there should apply also when they didnot have the money for the school fees gecause they have ways to help them and that this University is open to all students from every religion.

This you will never read at this University from this new churches.

erico2k2:
Next time try and do a little bit of baground B4 you quote people, FYI I livein England so words like MB dont apply to me,
back to the question,I used the term NON profit Organization, if you understand what that means you wont ask all them questions you just did, just to prove a point of how ignorant People are in the third world countries like ours, Check Cancer UK,RSPC,Red Cross, Doctors Without Borders, ask yourself how they fund their services and pay staffs, then there goes your Answer.If the churche's aim is to bring up young men and women as graduate in the ways of the Lord then there must be a sole purpose to that effect only and profits made should be re-invested into the total Educational system not just the ones of the church now that's what I call Soul winning.

bigtt76: While I will agree with you that he gets no funding and what is realized as school fees may not be enough to run the school ....Bishop should not come out and say people spend 1 million naira on burials as if every Nigerian out there has the 1 million naira or happy to spend such on burial.

Truth is if the church today wants to help the poor in the society as the missionaries did back then ...they certainly can do it. Imagine the two ebola infected people flown back to US were all missionaries ...how many of those church people volunteered to assist at the Lagos isolation center?

sarutobie:
do you in all honesty believe that only "the poor people" come to these churches and pay tithes and give donations? someone in an earlier post even said politicians attend these churches and give their tithes and donations there..yet you still ask how the universities came to be?

erico2k2:
Next time try and do a little bit of baground B4 you quote people, FYI I livein England so words like MB dont apply to me,
back to the question,I used the term NON profit Organization, if you understand what that means you wont ask all them questions you just did, just to prove a point of how ignorant People are in the third world countries like ours, [b]Check Cancer UK,RSPC,Red Cross, Doctors Without Borders, ask yourself how they fund their services and pay staffs, then there goes your Answer.[/b]If the churche's aim is to bring up young men and women as graduate in the ways of the Lord then there must be a sole purpose to that effect only and profits made should be re-invested into the total Educational system not just the ones of the church now that's what I call Soul winning.

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Most poor folks constitute a large percentage of the congregation

bushdoc9919:

Ah, those missionaries had(and still have) heavy sponsorship from outside the country. Many mission organizations get heavy funding from churches and rich Christians abroad....including some who are as rich as Dangote!

That's why they are able to help....and none of them set up a University(though many set up teacher training colleges, which were not free BTW and are not as extensive as universiites).

Also, back during the mission heyday, relatively fewer kids went to school. Not like now, where far more children go to school.

I guess, going back to universities, one way we could get around the funding issue is via loans and grants for students (That is how many students in the US afford school....problem is they pay back the loans for a long time).

Deepfreezer: God is watching and will judge each and every one of us by our actions.
Oyedepo was ur Education expensive?

bushdoc9919:

OK...let us assume that Oyedepo decides to charge N15000 per semester so that all those poor members of his church can attend .

Assuming 10,000 Students attend...that gives us N150 m naira per annum.

Out of that , he has to pay staff salaries (and paying one lecturer is about N400,000 monthly in a FEDERAL university) and other staff salaries,maintenance costs, etc.

All that costs far more than N150m he gets per annum.

Note that Oyedepo gets zero funding from the government.
So where is he going to get money from? The air?

Some of you Nigerians should stop behaving as if there is a bottomless pit of cash. There isn't.

(And I am not a member of Oyedepo's church, neither am I his fan).

frosbel:



How much profit did missionary schools make and why can he not sell all his private jets and use the money to subsidise education for the poor ?

The truth is that this man's interest is in money not people .

sarutobie:
why do you all assume most people in his congregation are poor? why do you all assume church goers are all poor that misconception is where people coined the words "church rat" which is so derogatory. can you give me a verified statistics of the "poor people" in his congregation?

Endougs: President and founder of the Living Faith Church aka Winners Chapel Worldwide, Bishop David Oyedepo, has defended what many consider to be the exorbitant tuition fees charged by the church’s schools, describing the provision of quality education as an expensive venture.

Oyedepo defended the fees while addressing journalists on Friday in Ota, Ogun State, at a media chat organised as part of activities to celebrate his 60th birthday coming up on September 27, 2014.

Private schools, especially faith-based ones in the country, including Covenant and Landmark universities, owned by the church, are often criticised for being too expensive for average Nigerians to afford.

But the popular cleric highlighted some of the church’s humanitarian programmes which include providing scholarships and bursary awards to assist disadvantaged and brilliant students.

He said, “I’m sure we all agree that education is expensive. Education carries cost; nothing of value is free. Our mission for years long, before we started any university or secondary school, was a bursary awarding church and we have not stopped doing that till tomorrow”.

Oyedepo said that the church was committed to providing quality education to youths, adding that many Nigerians complain about the cost of education in private universities because they have got their priorities misplaced.

“Our problem most of the time is priority; an average Nigerian can spend N1m on burial but to spend N200,000 on education (is a problem), because of wrong priority.

“On a yearly basis, we have N1.5trn that Nigerians spend to overseas universities, so people thrive on it. Nigerians spend N463bn a month on recharge cards, how much are they paying for schools fees? So it’s all a matter of priority. This is the largest market for telephone in the world. Now, to pay N500,000, some people have only one son, they have huge business and houses all over the places, they will never pay it”.

Speaking further, Oyedepo, who seems to have developed thick skin to many controversial reports about him on the social media, revealed that it is a waste of time to respond to his critics.

He said, “My understanding of opposition, persecution is simply someone’s opinion harshly expressed. Everybody has a right to his opinion. Today, millions follow after Christ but you will be surprised that when you get to Israel some people do not believe that Christ has come.

“People have rights to their opinions. I naturally don’t feel it’s necessary (to respond). The energy I would need to react, I can use it to make moves. I have enough to think about than start running after a man who says you are a fool.

“If he says you are a fool and you are behaving so, then he’s right. If you leave your job and start pursuing somebody who says you are a fool, he has already said so, your going around doesn’t change it. So why going around, why don’t you settle on your job and make moves?

“I’ve also come to understand that those who make news hardly watch them, they are so busy making news while others are busy watching”.
Asked about the challenges he has faced in life and in his ministry, Oyedepo said he had never focused on his challenges but rather, has been fuelled by them.

He said, “Life essentially is full of challenges, it is those challenges that make champions. You can’t emerge a heavy weight boxing champion except you receive punches. You can’t change classes in school except you write exams.

“So to me, life is an adventure in challenges and I’ve said often that it is normal to be challenged but it’s unscriptural to be defeated. Challenges are the stepping stones for the making of champions”.

In 1981, at the age of 27, Oyedepo, who would later become a household name in Nigeria and beyond, started his ministry in Ilorin, Kwara State and sited his first church two years later in Kaduna State.

At the media chat, he said that the church, which had humble beginnings, is now located in 63 countries in the world and that the Faith Tabernacle, Ota, where he is the presiding Bishop, plays host to “over 200,000 worshippers every Sunday morning in four services”.

http://endougs..com/2014/09/oyedepo-defends-fees-charged-by-private.html

frosbel:



How much profit did missionary schools make and why can he not sell all his private jets and use the money to subsidize education for the poor ?

The truth is that this man's interest is in money not people .

Attorney1Lawz:

And the proceeds from the private jets would eternally solve the problem of the poor having access to education. maybe we all should sell our luxuries too - the extra smartphone, extra ipads, extra cars, etc .
We find it convenient to instruct others contributing to do more whilst we sit down to do nothing.

You got a problem with his private jet or properties ask about the amount of hours we works in a day, the number of church networks under his establishment, the number of workers under his employment, amount and urgency of invitees and conferences they need to attend- then u would see why he need a " flight cancellation/flight delays" prone travel arrangement. His counterparts like Kenneth Copeland in the US have eve given out 27 private jets in the US alone to help with people who take ministry as a business of evangelism and not just singing to people about a glorious heaven that needs no impact on earth.



Just as a car could be luxury to a child, it isn't to a worker, so is a private jet to a hardworking Man of God.

THANKS!!!