hardebounty:

So, as God PA, what point are u making
Any1 dat iz corrupt shld b put on trial, irrespective of d tribe..

BlackTechnology:

Answer this question Mr wise guy

If DICON step is the best step, why are we still importing advance weapons even to the point of running to China who was at the same level with us in 1960 after US ignored our cries for weapons

Wait until US invades Nigeria sucks us dry like Iraq under the guise of fighting corruption just as they accused Sadam of weapons of mass destruction they never found after wasting Iraqis


Think logically not emotionally

Nigeria at this time needs to rebuild her military after which the universities can channel their resources to other important things

NgeneUkwenu:

This is a serious matter, let's not go tribal! I am Igbo but I don't support criminality as exemplified by jonadafft and ihejirika!

fr3do:


Or maybe they are accusing him to cause more tension along ethno-religious lines that might facilitate the breakup of Nigeria.

IGBOSON1:

^^^Of course you'll want to believe this tales by moonlight! Ihejirika should wait in line until all your thieving retired generals up north are probed!

Cheers!

whitecat1: What could be so difficult in probing a man who didn't deliver on what he was given money for and caused deaths of thousands while he pocketed the money and became billionaire? The se toddlers called ibos are just too backward to be among humans. You just can't run anything in Nigeria like your cursed jungle.

yorubakid1: Abo.ki!you forgot to add hell-rufai,buhari, Tinubu and sanusi to your updates

shady26: i very much concur with you that ihejirika should be probed, possibly made to face trial if found guilty. but wait first, we must start from that long line of Generals that have served as COAS and CODS before now(or dont you think so? ),Danjuma,OBJ,IBB,BUHARI,ABACHA,.......and the least continues until we come to Ihejirika else its all Hypocrisy as usual. unfortunately for you lots igbos have learnt the game the game is called "Surviving in a country of hypocrites"

shady26: i very much concur with you that ihejirika should be probed, possibly made to face trial if found guilty. but wait first, we must start from that long line of Generals that have served as COAS and CODS before now(or dont you think so? ),Danjuma,OBJ,IBB,BUHARI,ABACHA,.......and the least continues until we come to Ihejirika else its all Hypocrisy as usual. unfortunately for you lots igbos have learnt the game the game is called "Surviving in a country of hypocrites"

BlackTechnology:


Shut up

Why haven't the US freeze the accounts of OBJ IBB Danjunma etc

Is it because Ihejirika is Igbo and GEJ is Ijaw that is why US is talking

My opinion is

If this info is true, it means GEJ's govt has refused being US puppet which has angered the US

Imagine after refusing AFRICOM, increasing trade with China and refusing Gay law, do you think US will be happy.

JuanDeDios:
Now, what I believe you are saying is that in the middle of a war, the way out is the universities - let them start teaching weapons technology (with professors and lecturers drawn from Onitsha market) building weapons labs (which you believe can be fully functional and produce weapons to fight Boko Haram just now just now), while we ignore Dicon which already has some residual facilities in place! You're a genius.

You, sir, are the one being emotional!

Now, to your question - I'm assuming you don't really know the answer already even though it's the subject of this thread.
Dicon is not working because of .... corruption. It's not working because when billions are budgeted they simply disappear. That is the issue Jonathan and some of you like to hide your heads in sand about. We have been hearing of the budgeted billions followed by an ill-equipped army. If Jonathan was competent he would have probed that -maybe it's Ihejrika, maybe it's not, he would have found out. So you think there is no viral corruption in Nigeria just as there was no WMD in Iraq? You people are not serious abeg.

BlackTechnology:

There is no society where corruption is not found.
The fact is, in some societies systems were created to curtail the effect of corruption I.e make the effect of corruption insignificant
The problem with people like you is that you attack corruption headlong instead of flanking or encircling corruption
This is the same mistake Sanusi made and failed unlike his predecessor Soludo
Example of how some universities outflanked or encircled corruption instead of attacking it directly
At least 3 lecturers handle a course and the scores divided amongst them. This prevents a scenario where one lecture has absolute power to determine the fate of a student in a course.

In America, the threat of coup, autocracy etc is one major reason the US has two major armed forces(Marines and Army) under two different command chains answerable to the president through the defense secretary. It is also the major reason the americans are allowed to carry guns in order to defend their liberty against coups or sit tight presidency

In summary instead of wasting time searching for those who smartly siphoned money meant for DICON weapons development exposing Nigeria to threat of internal or foreign invasion, it is safe fast and certain we allow our bright students/lecturers engage in weapons related projects to secure our independence.


If you insist on your idea no problem but let it be applied when Odua Arewa or whatever new nation you will find yourself.

But as for me and other Biafrans, this is the idea we will uphold. Which is why we are advicing GEJ to take our path and prevent another colonialism.

shady26: i very much concur with you that ihejirika should be probed, possibly made to face trial if found guilty. but wait first, we must start from that long line of Generals that have served as COAS and CODS before now(or dont you think so? ),Danjuma,OBJ,IBB,BUHARI,ABACHA,.......and the least continues until we come to Ihejirika else its all Hypocrisy as usual. unfortunately for you lots igbos have learnt the game the game is called "Surviving in a country of hypocrites"

shady26: i very much concur with you that ihejirika should be probed, possibly made to face trial if found guilty. but wait first, we must start from that long line of Generals that have served as COAS and CODS before now(or dont you think so? ),Danjuma,OBJ,IBB,BUHARI,ABACHA,.......and the least continues until we come to Ihejirika else its all Hypocrisy as usual. unfortunately for you lots igbos have learnt the game the game is called "Surviving in a country of hypocrites"

JuanDeDios:

Aren't you being a bit presumptuous by presenting yourself as anyone's spokesman on this matter?

Anyway, if your argument is gun liberalisation like they have in America, that's a different subject. To be sure, I don't support gun liberalisation, but I recognise that it has its merits and, like I said, it's a different subject. What I was arguing against is the workability or arming abi tasking universities to go into arms production in the middle of a war. I also argued that even in peace times arms are produced by industries, not universities. When South Africa was faced by sanctions it looked inwards and began to reverse engineer weapons technology. Today, they're a respectable arms-producing country. No, not through their universities. Through industries. We've tried things here by establishing Dicon - for where?

I agree with you that corruption requires a systematic approach. But Nigeria has got to a stage where anything you throw at corruption they find a way to defeat it - because the money they steal is way too much for anything to stand in their way. What you need is a multi-faceted approach. You can't fight corruption when impunity reigns. Never. Once there is no punishment for crime whatever system you put in place would be messed up. Your HOD will simply impose his will on the three lecturers and have them award marks to his okpeke and he will get away with it. How many years did they give Bernie Madoff for scamming would-be investors, 90? That's what I'm talking about. Until we starting doing that sort of thing we're not serious and we won't get anywhere - whether you allocate funds to Dicon or to universities, all of which are forced to run on diesel.

BlackTechnology:

First and foremost you are mixing up development and mass production

Development of weapons means design , fabrication and testing of new weapons or modification of old weapons.

Once a newly developed weapon is approved , it will then be mass produce at DICON

You do not leave the fate of over 140million people in the hands of DICON when there are University/Polytechnic students option you can simultaneously utilized alongside DICON

Do you know why Hitler could not invade Switzerland even when Swiss do not have a standing army.?

Because every male swiss receives military training and given a gun to keep at home.

This is the major reason why Hitler who was bold to invade Russia was scared to invade Switzerland.


If you were Swiss leader in the days when Swiss were contemplating it, you would have opposed it and centuries later , Hitler would have invaded Switzerland

The problem with you is that you are fearful and I understand considering the part of the country you come from.


My friend

For now Nigeria needs [/b]to quickly build up her defense within 5years and that can be quickly achieved when we involve our universities and polytechnics in weapons development as DICON staff play their role.

[b]We do not have time on our side now that US has started acting funny.

Pls stoppppppp being fearful.

If it worked in swiss and Northern Europe it can work in Nigeria this time in the area of weapons development.

BlackTechnology:

First and foremost you are mixing up development and mass production

Development of weapons means design , fabrication and testing of new weapons or modification of old weapons.

Once a newly developed weapon is approved , it will then be mass produce at DICON

You do not leave the fate of over 140million people in the hands of DICON when there are University/Polytechnic students option you can simultaneously utilized alongside DICON

Do you know why Hitler could not invade Switzerland even when Swiss do not have a standing army.?

Because every male swiss receives military training and given a gun to keep at home.

This is the major reason why Hitler who was bold to invade Russia was scared to invade Switzerland.


If you were Swiss leader in the days when Swiss were contemplating it, you would have opposed it and centuries later , Hitler would have invaded Switzerland

The problem with you is that you are fearful and I understand considering the part of the country you come from.


My friend

For now Nigeria needs to quickly build up her defense within 5years and that can be quickly achieved when we involve our universities and polytechnics in weapons development as DICON staff play their role.

We do not have time on our side now that US has started acting funny.

Pls stoppppppp being fearful.

If it worked in swiss and Northern Europe it can work in Nigeria this time in the area of weapons development.

JuanDeDios:
Rather than acknowledge the role of corruption in all this or even cite one country where universities are involved in the stages of arms production, you have decided to widen this into nonsenses about tribe, Switzerland and definitions of development.

If you ran a search around here you will find posts to convince I’m a supporter of Ihejirika. The difference is that my support for him is based on principle, whereas yours is based on ethnicity. That is why you have assumed (wrongly, but does it matter?) that I must be Yoruba since I dare call for the government to do the right thing when the name of someone from your ethnic group is mentioned. For you, there are two group in Nigeria – Biafrans and others and each group is made up of undifferentiated people who all think alike. That is why you have arrogated to yourself the spokesman for “Biafrans” on this matter since to you all Biafrans think alike and should automatically agree with you.

I don’t have time to school you on the dynamics that saved Switzerland from WWs 1 & 2 but it may interest you to know that there were countries with trained male populations which were attacked and countries with untrained populations which weren’t. Anyway, I am a longtime supporter of compulsory military training for males, something you are strangely confusing with your no good idea of tasking universities and polytechnics with arms production, err development.

I already conceded that designs can come out of universities – since anybody can come up with a design and if it’s good the relevant industries will adopt it. Why don’t you cite examples of universities that are involved in arms “development”?

People like you, people who can’t beyond parochial interests, are the real problems of society – in Nigeria tribal considerations won’t let them condemn corruption once their kinsman is involved and if you give them Biafra they won’t know what do with it since their life course is about agitating for Biafra.

At least, you now agree that Dicon has a role – that’s progress. For now, Nigeria needs to stop whining about America not giving them weapons (as if the AK-47s they have been using forever came from America) and IMPORT weapons from Eastern Europe, Asia or wherever to defeat Boko Haram. You have a war to fight – just stop hankering after weapons you never had, stop stealing and get the job done. After that draw up a plan that should ensure limited self-sufficiency in armament within the next 5 to 10 years by repositioning Dicon. Dicon can take good designs from wherever they come – universities, Ariaria market, Black Technology’s laptop, anywhere, as long as it’s good. Private sector participation can be encouraged but not in today’s Nigeria for so many reasons – unless we can get our act together.

Thank you.

akiOYIBO:
The military money dat were allocated in ur father's parlour abi? if they are sure he embezzled billions, let them prove beyond reasonable doubt by procuring solid evidence.

KA24DETT:


Dude , you know absolutely nothing about weapon research and development .
Universities do not undertake weapon research in the US or anywhere in the world.
There are defense contractors that do that. This is how it works . The biggest defense contractor is Lockheed Martin with contracts worth about billions they get from the US government every year.
Let me tell you how it works. 1> the US army or navy request for an aircraft , they have specification like operational curtain of 50,000feet, range of 5,000 miles and payload of 70,0000lbs. The defense contractors will tell their engineers to design this aircraft and the winning design is chosen by the pentagon or any branch of the armed forces that requests for it .
No university has the money to undergo this project and it's not their job. No university in the world undergoes weapons research and development . None . Not even china or the US . Defense contractors hire engineers from universities.
Stop spreading mis information .
Both of you are arguing about things you do not have an idea how it works..

JuanDeDios:
Rather than acknowledge the role of corruption in all this or even cite one country where universities are involved in the stages of arms production, you have decided to widen this into nonsenses about tribe, Switzerland and definitions of development.
If you ran a search around here you will find posts to convince I’m a supporter of Ihejirika. The difference is that my support for him is based on principle, whereas yours is based on ethnicity. That is why you have assumed (wrongly, but does it matter?) that I must be Yoruba since I dare call for the government to do the right thing when the name of someone from your ethnic group is mentioned. For you, there are two group in Nigeria – Biafrans and others and each group is made up of undifferentiated people who all think alike. That is why you have arrogated to yourself the spokesman for “Biafrans” on this matter since to you all Biafrans think alike and should automatically agree with you.
I don’t have time to school you on the dynamics that saved Switzerland from WWs 1 & 2 but it may interest you to know that there were countries with trained male populations which were attacked and countries with untrained populations which weren’t. Anyway, I am a longtime supporter of compulsory military training for males, something you are strangely confusing with your no good idea of tasking universities and polytechnics with arms production, err development.
I already conceded that designs can come out of universities – since anybody can come up with a design and if it’s good the relevant industries will adopt it. Why don’t you cite examples of universities that are involved in arms “development”?
People like you, people who can’t beyond parochial interests, are the real problems of society – in Nigeria tribal considerations won’t let them condemn corruption once their kinsman is involved and if you give them Biafra they won’t know what do with it since their life course is about agitating for Biafra.
At least, you now agree that Dicon has a role – that’s progress. For now, Nigeria needs to stop whining about America not giving them weapons (as if the AK-47s they have been using forever came from America) and IMPORT weapons from Eastern Europe, Asia or wherever to defeat Boko Haram. You have a war to fight – just stop hankering after weapons you never had, stop stealing and get the job done. After that draw up a plan that should ensure limited self-sufficiency in armament within the next 5 to 10 years by repositioning Dicon. Dicon can take good designs from wherever they come – universities, Ariaria market, Black Technology’s laptop, anywhere, as long as it’s good. Private sector participation can be encouraged but not in today’s Nigeria for so many reasons – unless we can get our act together.
Thank you.

relchange:

@bolded, more like "Surviving in a country of retards".

i still insist that the average Nigerian IQ is shocking, going by comments in this section. My fear is that these retards end up in government, making policies for the rest of us.