Re: Ebola Epidemic: Where Are The Faith Healers In Africa? by fr3do(m): 2:56pm On Sep 30, 2014 |
Danhumprey: What are you trying to say?![undecided](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/undecided.png) We can make giant strides in science while still holding fast to God. The philosophy that science draws you away from God or vice versa is just plain yeye. |
Re: Ebola Epidemic: Where Are The Faith Healers In Africa? by Ukutsgp(m): 2:57pm On Sep 30, 2014 |
why do u want pastors to play with ebola? do u think u can faith ebola? |
Re: Ebola Epidemic: Where Are The Faith Healers In Africa? by penzino(m): 2:58pm On Sep 30, 2014 |
Wisdom is profitable to direct! Only very few people understand this. |
Re: Ebola Epidemic: Where Are The Faith Healers In Africa? by Silensa(m): 2:58pm On Sep 30, 2014 |
actually water don pass garri.
seriously speaking, i don't know what i typed now |
Re: Ebola Epidemic: Where Are The Faith Healers In Africa? by Olaskybab: 2:58pm On Sep 30, 2014 |
boujaye: SINCE YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN GOD OR IN THE POWER AND ABILITY OF GOD AND HIS WAYS, ITS NEEDLESS ANSWERING YOUR QUESTS. BUT ONE THING U HAVE TO KNOW IS THAT GOD DON'T JUST GO ABOUT HEALING EVERYMAN WHO DOESN'T BELIEVE, YOUR DOUBTS DOESN'T STOP OR REDUCE GOD FOR WHOM HE IS. IT'S NOT OF ADEBOYE, NOR OYEDEPO BUT OF CHRIST JESUS WHO DWELLS IN THEM THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT. I STRONGLY BELIEVE IN THE POWER OF GOD THROUGH OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST. U've sed it all.....may God bless u bros. I wonder y ppl tink anticlkwisely o. The writer shuld read d testimonies of sm survivors online so dat he/she can knw dat without God,NOTHING z possible. 2 u,d writer; ar all dose ppl u've mentioned deir names special beings? Ar dey not human lyk u? It's just dat dey've drawn deir self closer 2 God by living a holy lyf,nd y can't u do likewise?? 2 Likes |
Re: Ebola Epidemic: Where Are The Faith Healers In Africa? by fr3do(m): 2:58pm On Sep 30, 2014 |
Danhumprey: What are you trying to say?![undecided](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/undecided.png) We can make giant strides in science while still holding fast to God. |
Re: Ebola Epidemic: Where Are The Faith Healers In Africa? by achi4u(m): 3:00pm On Sep 30, 2014 |
Ebola no get boundary,this one no reach men of god ooo |
Re: Ebola Epidemic: Where Are The Faith Healers In Africa? by catosh: 3:01pm On Sep 30, 2014 |
zenith4biz: Both the OP and the writer should go to Sambisa forest and get information about Boko Haram then faith healers would follow suit. U sabi write Abi? Go and get info from ISIS. Lazy people would sit down with there petium 2 desktop dey type rubbish.
And to those fake faith healers........ I wonder when there customers would be wise
Then the original faith healers may God continue to strengthen you in Jesus name. nice one.... but name one original faith healer abeg....no insult intended. 2 Likes |
Re: Ebola Epidemic: Where Are The Faith Healers In Africa? by achi4u(m): 3:02pm On Sep 30, 2014 |
Silensa: actually water don pass garri.
seriously speaking, i don't know what i typed now Exactly!!!!! ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) |
Re: Ebola Epidemic: Where Are The Faith Healers In Africa? by Nobody: 3:02pm On Sep 30, 2014 |
Sweetlemon: It"s just not sensible. Ebola is not something to experiment with. They could contract it and spread it to others.
Odikwa very risky.
why is it an experiment? Or isn't faith meant to be sufficient? 1 Like |
Re: Ebola Epidemic: Where Are The Faith Healers In Africa? by ElFenomeno1: 3:05pm On Sep 30, 2014 |
sirjohnson: I pray
Pray for what?! Are you si.ck?! |
Re: Ebola Epidemic: Where Are The Faith Healers In Africa? by Nobody: 3:08pm On Sep 30, 2014 |
See wickedness |
Re: Ebola Epidemic: Where Are The Faith Healers In Africa? by eleko1: 3:15pm On Sep 30, 2014 |
![](/faces/huh.png) Sharap!U dnt tempt God.Miracles Happens always.Miracle isn't Magic,I have personally seen a blind man eyes open.There was once a White Pastor who pray and cure Ebola not by his Power but God working wonders.If U have Faith,U'll receive.Even Jesus Christ can't do nothing witout Faith.Dnt put curse on Ur head mazaje: As the governments of West Africa struggle to contain the spread of the Ebola virus, I am wondering where all the men and women of God who claim they can heal the sick and who conduct faith healing sessions in countries across the region are.
Where are all the continent’s miracle workers now that people desperately need healing; where are the anointed men and women of God now governments urgently need to contain the spread of Ebola? Where are all the pastors and preachers who have built their religious and business empires marketing miracle cure claims to gullible, ignorant desperate folks in cities and villages across Africa over the years? Have their miracle stocks suddenly gone dry? Or don’t they have any miracle package that is compatible with Ebola? What are our faith healers doing now? Can’t they singly or jointly take the spiritual battle against Ebola to affected communities and demonstrate to the world that their God is truly a miracle God?
Where are the T B Joshuas, David Oyedepos, Enoch Adeboyes, Kumuyis of this world and other anointed men and women who claim to be in direct communication with god in matters concerning healing? Why can’t T B Joshua travel down to Sierra Leone or Liberia and cast this ‘demon’ of Ebola into the Ocean once and for all? Why can’t the Nigerian government allow Ebola patients to come to the Synagogue in Lagos so that they can receive their healing from the quaking anointed hands of Prophet T B Joshua or be delivered by the most revered Enoch Adeboye and David Oyedepo?
Where is Archbishop Nicolas Duncan Williams of Action Chapel in Accra? Have his prophetic and faith healing powers suddenly expired? I mean this is the time for ministration. This is the time to spread God’s anointing and use it to counter the spread of Ebola. Where are the faith healers? I ask once again. The government and people Guinea, Sierra Leone need you now, urgently. The people of the world need your help. Do not retreat. Do not make excuses now the ‘Kingdom of God’ is suffering violence due to Ebola disease. This is the time of reckoning. This is the time to hold you to account for the faith healing claims you have made over the years. Yes, this is the defining moment.
A disease that requires you to put your healing powers to test is here. Where are Africans who believe in miracles and in divine healing and who flaunt this belief as a mark of piety and godliness? Belief is not enough. Faith in miracles, like sincerity, is subject to test. This is the testing time. Will you stand up now and be counted? A disease that requires you to put your belief to test is here. Please kindly step forward? Liberia beckons on you. Sierra Leone beckons on you. Guinea awaits you. What is the need entertaining belief in miracles only to suddenly suspend it when an occasion that demands you to put such a belief to the test arises? Ebola beckons on faith healers and miracle believers. This is your chance to convince and convert skeptics.
Where are all the Christian, Muslim, Traditionalist spiritualists who claim they have powers to cure diseases? Where are African diviners who claim to know the mind of God? Is there any faith healer in the foxhole of Ebola in West Africa?
I mean where are the god men and women? What are they doing now? Ebola is here threatening and charging to destroy economies and decimate population of countries. Please come forward and put your healing powers to the test and help countries in West Africa save lives and save money.
This challenge has become necessary if Africa must move forward and if the ongoing deception and exploitation by fake(faith) healers will end. There is no evidence for faith healing at all. Africans spend fortune on faith healing schemes. This challenge has become necessary if African people and their governments must improve the health care system and be able to provide effective responses to outbreak of diseases like the Ebola. Africans need to maximize their limited resources and stop investing and wasting money in useless cure schemes. Africans need to channel their funds into promoting evidence based health care system.
But this may not happen for now due to pervasive faith healing program in the region.
For too long, many people have often declared that they were called by God and given supernatural powers to heal diseases. They set up churches and shrines. Sometimes they operate from their homes. These self-acclaimed emissaries of a miracle working God organize faith clinics and healing sessions and charge exorbitant fees. Many Africans go to these faith doctors for ‘treatment’.
Today we have are several testimonies of people who claim they received their healing from these faith clinicians- pastors, priests, bishops, Alfas, Mallams, marabouts, one local spiritualist or diviner or the other? And these testimonies are often used to support ‘non evidence based medicine’ and discourage evidence based medical thinking and programs. This trend has had negative effects on the public health care system in the region.
The negative impact is such that when there is a serious outbreak of diseases, the peddlers of supernatural cures disappear into the thin air leaving their so-called flock in a lurch without any effective faith healing intervention. Just imagine that ridiculous gesture from T B Joshua to Ebola patients in Sierra Leone. He sent them tons of holy water. Did the holy water stop the spread of Ebola? No.
So when there is an outbreak of epidemic, many people begin to panic. They are confused as to which measures to adopt to prevent the spread of the disease. Sometimes they shun evidence based measures and instructions due to the confusion that has been created in their minds by faith healers and other peddlers of paranormal cures. Today African governments are asking for help from the international community in order to fight the spread of Ebola disease. Are they asking western countries to send them their faith healers or tons of olive oil? No. Are they asking eastern countries to send them Sheikhs, Mullahs or Rabbis, sacred Arabian sand, incense and perfume to combat this deadly virus? No. African countries are appealing for evidence based medical supplies, tested drugs and competent medical personnel, not prayer, incantation or divination. Meanwhile, after the disease is contained, our faith healers will reemerge on the scene with their faith healing practices. They will begin once again to market their holy water, olive oil, holy handkerchief, and other faith healing wares. They will begin to perform signs and wonders once again.
It will be back to the religious business as usual. While, the government goes back to dogmatic and ‘faithfull’ sleep till another major outbreak of disease.
I mean this is totally unacceptable and must stop. Meanwhile, the medical assistance which African governments are demanding from Eastern and Western countries are programs and facilities which they are capable of putting in place in their different countries if only they could give enough priority to evidence based medical thinking and research, and stop hankering after miracle and faith healing schemes which fail them when diseases like a Ebola strike.
Leo Igwe is a skeptic from Nigeria.
http://saharareporters.com/2014/09/29/ebola-epidemic-where-are-faith-healers-africa-leo-igwe 2 Likes |
Re: Ebola Epidemic: Where Are The Faith Healers In Africa? by Mbediogu(m): 3:20pm On Sep 30, 2014 |
Apart from their claims, all those healers have one thing in common - they are great sons of Oduduwaland. I am yet to see an Hausa, Igbo, Efik, Tiv or any claimant from any of the 400(+) Nigerian tribes. I dont doubt them but it must have a locus in their genes. |
Re: Ebola Epidemic: Where Are The Faith Healers In Africa? by Nobody: 3:20pm On Sep 30, 2014 |
engrtee: i am here
you get ebola? LOL |
Re: Ebola Epidemic: Where Are The Faith Healers In Africa? by eleko1: 3:23pm On Sep 30, 2014 |
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Re: Ebola Epidemic: Where Are The Faith Healers In Africa? by kevoh(m): 3:23pm On Sep 30, 2014 |
RaptorX: While communist Cuba is sending over 400 doctors and nurses to help combat the spread of the disease, our faith healers were sending tons of bottled holy water. Healthcare is actually Cuba's main source of revenue. I was completely surprised when I read about this country and it's healthcare program and how foreigners even Americans run there for cheap health services. Their Doctors actually interact with the local community and know them on a personal basis you would think they were relatives unlike most Doctors in one W.African country that starts with N. ![tongue](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/tongue.png) 2 Likes |
Re: Ebola Epidemic: Where Are The Faith Healers In Africa? by estherdennis(f): 3:32pm On Sep 30, 2014 |
mazaje: As the governments of West Africa struggle to contain the spread of the Ebola virus, I am wondering where all the men and women of God who claim they can heal the sick and who conduct faith healing sessions in countries across the region are.
Where are all the continent’s miracle workers now that people desperately need healing; where are the anointed men and women of God now governments urgently need to contain the spread of Ebola? Where are all the pastors and preachers who have built their religious and business empires marketing miracle cure claims to gullible, ignorant desperate folks in cities and villages across Africa over the years? Have their miracle stocks suddenly gone dry? Or don’t they have any miracle package that is compatible with Ebola? What are our faith healers doing now? Can’t they singly or jointly take the spiritual battle against Ebola to affected communities and demonstrate to the world that their God is truly a miracle God?
Where are the T B Joshuas, David Oyedepos, Enoch Adeboyes, Kumuyis of this world and other anointed men and women who claim to be in direct communication with god in matters concerning healing? Why can’t T B Joshua travel down to Sierra Leone or Liberia and cast this ‘demon’ of Ebola into the Ocean once and for all? Why can’t the Nigerian government allow Ebola patients to come to the Synagogue in Lagos so that they can receive their healing from the quaking anointed hands of Prophet T B Joshua or be delivered by the most revered Enoch Adeboye and David Oyedepo?
Where is Archbishop Nicolas Duncan Williams of Action Chapel in Accra? Have his prophetic and faith healing powers suddenly expired? I mean this is the time for ministration. This is the time to spread God’s anointing and use it to counter the spread of Ebola. Where are the faith healers? I ask once again. The government and people Guinea, Sierra Leone need you now, urgently. The people of the world need your help. Do not retreat. Do not make excuses now the ‘Kingdom of God’ is suffering violence due to Ebola disease. This is the time of reckoning. This is the time to hold you to account for the faith healing claims you have made over the years. Yes, this is the defining moment.
A disease that requires you to put your healing powers to test is here. Where are Africans who believe in miracles and in divine healing and who flaunt this belief as a mark of piety and godliness? Belief is not enough. Faith in miracles, like sincerity, is subject to test. This is the testing time. Will you stand up now and be counted? A disease that requires you to put your belief to test is here. Please kindly step forward? Liberia beckons on you. Sierra Leone beckons on you. Guinea awaits you. What is the need entertaining belief in miracles only to suddenly suspend it when an occasion that demands you to put such a belief to the test arises? Ebola beckons on faith healers and miracle believers. This is your chance to convince and convert skeptics.
Where are all the Christian, Muslim, Traditionalist spiritualists who claim they have powers to cure diseases? Where are African diviners who claim to know the mind of God? Is there any faith healer in the foxhole of Ebola in West Africa?
I mean where are the god men and women? What are they doing now? Ebola is here threatening and charging to destroy economies and decimate population of countries. Please come forward and put your healing powers to the test and help countries in West Africa save lives and save money.
This challenge has become necessary if Africa must move forward and if the ongoing deception and exploitation by fake(faith) healers will end. There is no evidence for faith healing at all. Africans spend fortune on faith healing schemes. This challenge has become necessary if African people and their governments must improve the health care system and be able to provide effective responses to outbreak of diseases like the Ebola. Africans need to maximize their limited resources and stop investing and wasting money in useless cure schemes. Africans need to channel their funds into promoting evidence based health care system.
But this may not happen for now due to pervasive faith healing program in the region.
For too long, many people have often declared that they were called by God and given supernatural powers to heal diseases. They set up churches and shrines. Sometimes they operate from their homes. These self-acclaimed emissaries of a miracle working God organize faith clinics and healing sessions and charge exorbitant fees. Many Africans go to these faith doctors for ‘treatment’.
Today we have are several testimonies of people who claim they received their healing from these faith clinicians- pastors, priests, bishops, Alfas, Mallams, marabouts, one local spiritualist or diviner or the other? And these testimonies are often used to support ‘non evidence based medicine’ and discourage evidence based medical thinking and programs. This trend has had negative effects on the public health care system in the region.
The negative impact is such that when there is a serious outbreak of diseases, the peddlers of supernatural cures disappear into the thin air leaving their so-called flock in a lurch without any effective faith healing intervention. Just imagine that ridiculous gesture from T B Joshua to Ebola patients in Sierra Leone. He sent them tons of holy water. Did the holy water stop the spread of Ebola? No.
So when there is an outbreak of epidemic, many people begin to panic. They are confused as to which measures to adopt to prevent the spread of the disease. Sometimes they shun evidence based measures and instructions due to the confusion that has been created in their minds by faith healers and other peddlers of paranormal cures. Today African governments are asking for help from the international community in order to fight the spread of Ebola disease. Are they asking western countries to send them their faith healers or tons of olive oil? No. Are they asking eastern countries to send them Sheikhs, Mullahs or Rabbis, sacred Arabian sand, incense and perfume to combat this deadly virus? No. African countries are appealing for evidence based medical supplies, tested drugs and competent medical personnel, not prayer, incantation or divination. Meanwhile, after the disease is contained, our faith healers will reemerge on the scene with their faith healing practices. They will begin once again to market their holy water, olive oil, holy handkerchief, and other faith healing wares. They will begin to perform signs and wonders once again.
It will be back to the religious business as usual. While, the government goes back to dogmatic and ‘faithfull’ sleep till another major outbreak of disease.
I mean this is totally unacceptable and must stop. Meanwhile, the medical assistance which African governments are demanding from Eastern and Western countries are programs and facilities which they are capable of putting in place in their different countries if only they could give enough priority to evidence based medical thinking and research, and stop hankering after miracle and faith healing schemes which fail them when diseases like a Ebola strike.
Leo Igwe is a skeptic from Nigeria.
http://saharareporters.com/2014/09/29/ebola-epidemic-where-are-faith-healers-africa-leo-igwe God is a miracle worker and not a magician,thou shall not tempt the Lord your God.even if God will heal but we will first of all quaratine ourselves,is bcus of dis healing stuff that ebola victim left her country to come and die at synagogue.be careful what u say about men of God to avoid incuring the anger of God.and thou shall not judge so as not to be judged. 2 Likes |
Re: Ebola Epidemic: Where Are The Faith Healers In Africa? by Nwogbe: 3:33pm On Sep 30, 2014 |
Una no serious! Who be the pastor wey want try faith wit ebola?? Funny dudes |
Re: Ebola Epidemic: Where Are The Faith Healers In Africa? by conyema12(m): 3:37pm On Sep 30, 2014 |
emmyrichie: Metaphysics is real... but only those who understand the angels and demons in that world can tamper and dance on its empirical threshold. you are indeed operating on a higher quantum |
Re: Ebola Epidemic: Where Are The Faith Healers In Africa? by bamosagie(m): 3:38pm On Sep 30, 2014 |
k10: are you not the same people that said ebola victims shouldn't be allowed to go to their churches?... They are saying the men of God should go to Liberia on missionary journey. 2 Likes |
Re: Ebola Epidemic: Where Are The Faith Healers In Africa? by EbolaParasite: 3:40pm On Sep 30, 2014 |
BTT: This is very thought-provoking! Not really. The answer is simple. They are ALL FAKE. All they know how to do is acquire JETS 1 Like |
Re: Ebola Epidemic: Where Are The Faith Healers In Africa? by ogaprime(m): 3:41pm On Sep 30, 2014 |
@op....so...
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Re: Ebola Epidemic: Where Are The Faith Healers In Africa? by EbolaParasite: 3:43pm On Sep 30, 2014 |
estherdennis: God is a miracle worker and not a magician,thou shall not tempt the Lord your God.even if God will heal but we will first of all quaratine ourselves,is bcus of dis healing stuff that ebola victim left her country to come and die at synagogue.be careful what u say about men of God to avoid incuring the anger of God.and thou shall not judge so as not to be judged. Do the people dieing deserve to die? Are you aware that kids are also among the victims? Does God hate Africa? Why can't this men of God heal from a distance? They claim to do it over Sunday prayers via TV so why not the same for Ebola? 4 Likes |
Re: Ebola Epidemic: Where Are The Faith Healers In Africa? by Nobody: 3:44pm On Sep 30, 2014 |
People are dying from Ebola and the best religious apologists can come up with is shallow but convenient excuses. These religious healers should at least try to show compassion for the average man by using a little part of their immense wealth to sponsor scientific research aimed at finding a cure. 4 Likes |
Re: Ebola Epidemic: Where Are The Faith Healers In Africa? by eleko1: 3:44pm On Sep 30, 2014 |
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Re: Ebola Epidemic: Where Are The Faith Healers In Africa? by powerblaze(m): 3:47pm On Sep 30, 2014 |
Well they told Jesus to save himself from the cross if he was the Christ. There's nothing people Will not say about you, whether you care to respond or not..
Nuff said.. 1 Like |
Re: Ebola Epidemic: Where Are The Faith Healers In Africa? by abdulwastecx(m): 3:47pm On Sep 30, 2014 |
emmyrichie: Metaphysics is real... but only those who understand the angels and demons in that world can tamper and dance on its empirical threshold. Nigerian pastors are business that need to be tax heavily. .. churches are morney making ventures those niggas feed on our gullibility 2 Likes |
Re: Ebola Epidemic: Where Are The Faith Healers In Africa? by wellmax(m): 3:49pm On Sep 30, 2014 |
Trash post. Are you challenging them or criticizing the ministers of God? 1 Like |
Re: Ebola Epidemic: Where Are The Faith Healers In Africa? by Nascimento(m): 3:52pm On Sep 30, 2014 |
From what I read from d bible, both Christ and his disciples healed all illness, and even raised the dead. So, why then can our pastors today not feel compassion for their infected sheep, like Jesus did, and beseech God to heal them. una weldone ooo. 1 Like |
Re: Ebola Epidemic: Where Are The Faith Healers In Africa? by Nobody: 3:52pm On Sep 30, 2014 |
Mazaje, have you ever read the bible? As much as I know, Jesus Christ prophesied incurable diseases in the book of Matthew 24 as sign of the end of the world and he didn't say that any pastor would be the one to end it. So, forget it and talk something else. If you have any EBOLA patients, take them to those pastors you mentioned and if the symptoms persists then you can whitewash them here if you like. So, wait until you have proven them before talking. |
Re: Ebola Epidemic: Where Are The Faith Healers In Africa? by zenith4biz(m): 3:53pm On Sep 30, 2014 |
catosh:
nice one.... but name one original faith healer abeg....no insult intended. My brother only God knows. |