morpheus24:


I am Nigerian and also West African, infact I will go further to say I am African through and through and therefore claim rightful the birth right of my mother land Africa.

Therefore I can come and go as I please, piss, poo poo and curse out anyone in South Africa because Africa is my motherland.

The logic of a Motswana on display.

You are crazy kanti? If your mom & dad are Nigerians its different from when your mom is SAn & your dad is a Motswana. By the way, In SA children born of Nigerian fathers and SAn mothers in SA would never call themselves Nigerians but South Africans. To most South Africans the child belong to the mother side unlike in Nigeria where the child belong to the father.

I thought that morpheus24 would be impressed by BluIvy's Xhosa post. He's always been infatuated with Xhosa.

paniki:
I thought that morpheus24 would be impressed by BluIvy's Xhosa post. He's always been infatuated with Xhosa.

NO dummy, I have always been "intrigued" with the amount of Khoisan blood present in the Xhosa since I study the subject of African genetic variation. There is a difference.

BluIvy:

You are crazy kanti? If your mom & dad are Nigerians its different from when your mom is SAn & your dad is a Motswana. By the way, In SA children born of Nigerian fathers and SAn mothers in SA would never call themselves Nigerians but South Africans. To most South Africans the child belong to the mother side unlike in Nigeria where the child belong to the father.

Who are you fooling. If the Nigerian man pays lobola for the SA woman, the child is culturally his, if he does not fulfill this customary ritual like a lot of SA men do and run away , the child stays under the roof of the mothers family and can take on her surname.

A few Nigerian ethnic groups allow a child to bear the mothers family name if the would be father publicly rejects the child as his own.



PS , Are you insinuating that your Motswana father did not pay lobola and therefore you belong to your mother's family?

morpheus24:


NO dummy, I have always been "intrigued" with the amount of Khoisan blood present in the Xhosa since I study the subject of African genetic variation. There is a difference.

My apologies, I misjudged your "intrigue".

morpheus24:


Who are you fooling. If the Nigerian man pays lobola for the SA woman, the child is culturally his, if he does not fulfill this customary ritual like a lot of SA men do and run away , the child stays under the roof of the mothers family and can take on her surname.

A few Nigerian ethnic groups allow a child to bear the mothers family name if the would be father publicly rejects the child as his own.



PS , Are you insinuating that your Motswana father did not pay lobola and therefore you belong to your mother's family?

You are misinformed ask your Nigeria brothers especially with mid northern & west Africans, South African parents would not even allow their grand children to visit places like Nigeria atlast Botswana are cousins. If you doubt me ask your brothers married to SAns women, they can never claim those children Lobola or no Lobola. Mna my mom was fully married and stayed for a while in Botswana now the whole family moved to SA. Its worse with Nigerians who never take their wives home, the parents neverxallow Nigerian fathers full rights. Just ask your bros.

O lawd, I see this now dragging on for ever, another round starting.

BluIvy:

You are misinformed ask your Nigeria brothers especially with mid northern & west Africans, South African parents would not even allow their grand children to visit places like Nigeria atlast Botswana are cousins. If you doubt me ask your brothers married to SAns women, they can never claim those children Lobola or no Lobola. Mna my mom was fully married and stayed for a while in Botswana now the whole family moved to SA. Its worse with Nigerians who never take their wives home, the parents neverxallow Nigerian fathers full rights. Just ask your bros.

I know a multitude of Nigerians who are and the key word here is "MARRIED" legally to SAfrican women who's kids straight up bear Nigerian first and last names. The only way "legally" speaking (according to SAfrican law) another parent be they from Sweden, UK or Nigeria can be barred from claiming their children is if they were never married ( lobola included) to those southie women or their names never mentioned on the child's birth certificate.

The Nigerians who don't take their wives or children home usually do so because they want to use them for paper and run away, children or no children.

Go tell your gogo's in the locations to read the law sometime before they do something foolish.

Real Naija men claim our flesh and blood!, same reason you must be from Botswana

^^^^^^^

Which SA law?

paniki:
^^^^^^^
Which SA law?

Go and read your countries Birth registration act or better yet go to your Home affairs website and go read up on issues of birth registration for children born to Foreign nationals or in or out of wedlock.

Eish!

morpheus24:


Go and read your countries Birth registration act or better yet go to your Home affairs website and go read up on issues of birth registration for children born to Foreign nationals or in or out of wedlock.

Eish!

Hahahaha. Before I correct you, please tell me which section of Births and Deaths Registration act states that and how do you relate it to the South African Citizenship Act or Natural Fathers of Children Born out of Wedlock Act.

I'll be patiently waiting.

morpheus24:


I know a multitude of Nigerians who are and the key word here is "MARRIED" legally to SAfrican women who's kids straight up bear Nigerian first and last names. The only way "legally" speaking (according to SAfrican law) another parent be they from Sweden, UK or Nigeria can be barred from claiming their children is if they were never married ( lobola included) to those southie women or their names never mentioned on the child's birth certificate.

The Nigerians who don't take their wives or children home usually do so because they want to use them for paper and run away, children or no children.

Go tell your gogo's in the locations to read the law sometime before they do something foolish.

Real Naija men claim our flesh and blood!, same reason you must be from Botswana

Wethu! you can lament all you want but South African parents don't play with their blood. Go claim a Nigerian child from a South African women from her parents. Uzowuzwa umoya!

BluIvy:


You see that's the difference between us and Nigeria, we don't care to be liked but to be respected. Maybe i don't like them either.

If they are slapping you around in your own country where is the respect? I don care to be liked by them either it is always about respect, if they slap you kill them is what i am saying.

paniki:

Hahahaha. Before I correct you, please tell me which section of Births and Deaths Registration act states that and how do you relate it to the South African Citizenship Act or Natural Fathers of Children Born out of Wedlock Act.
I'll be patiently waiting.

What are you on about?

BluIvy:

Wethu! you can lament all you want but South African parents don't play with their blood. Go claim a Nigerian child from a South African women from her parents. Uzowuzwa umoya!

You are just exposing yourself. Are we claiming the child from the woman or the SA woman's "parents". What has the "grand parents" got to do with fathers rights.

Sorry to burst your bubble but as long as those "foreigners" are legally married and their names appear on that birth certificate, your gogo's can't trump their rights. I know most of your men run away from their responsibilities which is why when you dump the kids with the "grand parents" they become attached to them and so won't easily let go, but if you don't want that to happen then tell your sisters not to marry Nigerian men. We do not abandon blood.

Shikena!

morpheus24:


What are you on about?

Point out the law(as in the actual provision). It can't be that difficult my brother.

paniki:

Point out the law(as in the actual provision). It can't be that difficult my brother.

Birth and Death Registration act

"Notice of birth of illegitimate child"


(1) Notice of birth of an illegitimate child shall be given
(a) under the surname of the mother; or
(b) at the joint request of the mother and of the person who in the presence of the person to whom the notice of birth was given acknowledges himself in writing to be the father of the child and enters the prescribed particulars regarding himself upon the notice of birth, under the surname of the person who has so acknowledged.

morpheus24:


Birth and Death Registration act

"Notice of birth of illegitimate child"


(1) Notice of birth of an illegitimate child shall be given
(a) under the surname of the mother; or
(b) at the joint request of the mother and of the person who in the presence of the person to whom the notice of birth was given acknowledges himself in writing to be the father of the child and enters the prescribed particulars regarding himself upon the notice of birth, under the surname of the person who has so acknowledged.

What is your understanding that provision? How do you relate to other legislation?

paniki:

What is your understanding that provision? How do you relate to other legislation?

My friend are we in court?

Do I look like a witness on the stand.

say what you want to say and I will rebuttal or revise if necessary.

morpheus24:


My friend are we in court?

Do I look like a witness on the stand.

say what you want to say and I will rebuttal or revise if necessary.

I was just just trying to gauge your understanding which I have now judged to be zero, it was just the usual pretentiousness.

I had already lined up judgements(interpretation of law) from the website listed below, but I just figured the argument would be pointless.

www.saflii.org.za/content/south-africa-index

paniki:

I was just just trying to gauge your understanding which I have now judged to be zero, it was just the usual pretentiousness.
I had already lined up judgements(interpretation of law) from the website listed below, but I just figured the argument would be pointless.
www.saflii.org.za/content/south-africa-index

Sorry , your so called judgment on my "understanding" is at present mere "opinion" and carries no weight since you haven't really said anything.

Please point to specifics, I do not have time to go through all that content which 99%, does not relate to anything being talked about here.

morpheus24:


Sorry , your so called judgment on my "understanding" is at present mere "opinion" and carries no weight since you haven't really said anything.

Please point to specifics, I do not have time to go through all that content which 99%, does not relate to anything being talked about here.

A judgement is an opinion, an objective opinion.

I get that you want me to educate you on something that you pretended to be knowledgeable about, but I think that it will be a waste of time.

paniki:

A judgement is an opinion, an objective opinion.
I get that you want me to educate you on something that you pretended to be knowledgeable about, but I think that it will be a waste of time.

****YAWN****

Waste of time ehh.... That's why you are still responding back.

right right!

morpheus24:


****YAWN****

Waste of time ehh.... That's why you are still responding back.

right right!

I see it as my duty to prevent the idiom "little knowledge is a dangerous thing" from remaining true.

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