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Re: Gender Inequality: Why Things Won't Be Normal. by swaggzo(m): 12:37pm On Oct 14, 2014
Haywhymido:
u said it all jare. if it is unwise to involve God in a societal issue den why involve him in ur life?? Isn't it people like u n i dat make up a society?? Dat shows d lvl u put ur own god/God.Am in indifferent to gender equality.I will bring up my girls not to be a napkin 4 any man n also teach her to respect n nt to worship men. Av u ever ask urself dese two question?
1 why did God create adam 1st n not eve
2 why did God use one rib to create eve(woman) out of d many ribs adam have/had.
3 why didn't God create eve on her own just like he created adam?? Doesnt dat tell u somethings??







YOU FOR GO CALL GOD COME DOWN MAKE E USE IM HAND SETTLE THIS GENDER MATTER NAW angry
Re: Gender Inequality: Why Things Won't Be Normal. by swaggzo(m): 12:37pm On Oct 14, 2014
cococandy:
OP you're right.


on a 100% scale !
Re: Gender Inequality: Why Things Won't Be Normal. by swaggzo(m): 12:38pm On Oct 14, 2014
cococandy:
OP you're right.
Re: Gender Inequality: Why Things Won't Be Normal. by swaggzo(m): 12:39pm On Oct 14, 2014
babygirlfl:


Ohh my God. I love this post. Thank you very much for saying the truth.

kiss
Re: Gender Inequality: Why Things Won't Be Normal. by Nobody: 12:43pm On Oct 14, 2014
Haywhymido:
what am tryin to say is dat as far as human world is concerned God use eve to make perfection to adam's life.If God want gender equality he cld av make eve on her own jst like adam, or take half of adam's ribs to make her

I hope you also know that the Bible tells slaves to submit to their masters.

1 Peter 2:18-20 (New International Version)

18 Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh. 19 For it is commendable if a man bears up under the pain of unjust suffering because he is conscious of God. 20 But how is it to your credit if you receive a beating for doing wrong and endure it? But if you suffer for doing good and you endure it, this is commendable before God.


http://www.biblestudytools.com/1-peter/passage.aspx?q=1-peter+2:18-20


So much for medieval teachings.

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Re: Gender Inequality: Why Things Won't Be Normal. by swaggzo(m): 12:43pm On Oct 14, 2014
golddeejay:
dis again!!! D feminists will b fightin for gender equality till d end of tym. It has bn like dat frm the beginnin...adam first, then eve made frm him, most responsibilities was on adam. Gender inequalities is embedded in our religion, cultures, mentalities...fight n preach all u want, men always have a headstart over women. It doesnt mean some women cant rise above d obstacles to reach d peak but it is an individual fight n determination, most women r too weak to try. If u r a woman, then stop all these equality talk n walk the walk. The gender inequality will always b der

some men are so weak... that they can't even spell!

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Re: Gender Inequality: Why Things Won't Be Normal. by Nobody: 12:48pm On Oct 14, 2014
Haywhymido:
what am tryin to say is dat as far as human world is concerned God use eve to make perfection to adam's life.If God want gender equality he cld av make eve on her own jst like adam, or take half of adam's ribs

Do you notice that God did not designate adam to be head of Eve in the begining? It was until adam and eve sinned that God told Eve since she decided to sin against him, therefore she would go through pregnancy pains, her husband would dominate her, her cravings will be for her husband and that they were going to grow old and die. This means that all of these consequences including men being heads were not meant to be in the first place. This shows that in the sight of God, all humans, male and female are equal. God detests any form of gender discrimination. Which was why it is written in 1peter 3 vs 7 that Husbands need to show their wives honor since both of them are heirs of the kingdom of God. There would have been a special preference for one gender over another by God. But No, God is never partial. when God gives laws, he gives to every human, male and female. The way he handles both gender shows he views them equally. It is selfish humans who like to dominate others to their injury that created partiality. If men and women are not equal, then Jesus would not have told us that we should DO UNTO OTHERS WHAT WE WOULD LIKE THEM TO DO UNTO YOU.

One thing people do not understand is that it is only when a Man becomes a HUSBAND that he becomes the head of his wife. If you are not a husband, you are not the head of anybody. Note that the word 'Husband' was repeatedly used in the bible when talking about Headship. A man is the HEAD OF HIS WIFE, NOT OF ANOTHER WOMAN/EVERY OTHER WOMAN ON EARTH, NOT OF HIS MOTHER. And inspite of being the Head, 1peter 3vs 7 says you are still to show your wife HONOR. This tells you God almighty is against any form of discrimination.

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Re: Gender Inequality: Why Things Won't Be Normal. by swaggzo(m): 12:51pm On Oct 14, 2014
FADEO:
Gender equality or gender inequality is going to ginger strife for mastery. In as much am not in support of seeing a woman or the female folks as a subordinate being in the homo sapien and also as secondary being in the general public. I still strongly believe that when it comes to the family level. there is nothing to debate about, there is no gender equality in the family. The man is head while the woman is a HELP MATE not HOUSE HELP. It simply implies that the head is not useful without the body but the head bears a larger part of the sensory organs: the eyes, nose, tongue, ear including feeling that is jointly and largely shared by the remaining parts of the body.

I wont teach my daughters to be dependent and feel inferior to any man but i will teach them to respect and submit to their HUSBAND as instructed by the HOLY BIBLE as two things have always worked from ages past which are HUSBAND, LOVE YOUR WIFE and WIFE SUBMIT TO YOUR OWN HUSBAND.

We can shout gender equality from age to age but the truth is that our gender are not equal but that does not in any way diminish the quality and attribute of a woman as we are MATE and but one is HEAD and the other is HELP...


what about the women who take care of the family, pay all the bills and feed and clothe both husband and children. who here then is the head?
The lazy a$$ men that depend on their wives for everything or... what?
some women even sponsor their husbands in school( one family I know, the guy's wife sponsored his masters degree program)
The most annoying thing is that people don't even seem to recognize those type of women. no matter what they do, their husband's still get all the glory just cuz he's "the man"

May God bless such women jare.

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Re: Gender Inequality: Why Things Won't Be Normal. by swaggzo(m): 12:56pm On Oct 14, 2014
Sophyrocks:


A man is the HEAD OF HIS WIFE, NOT OF ANOTHER WOMAN/EVERY OTHER WOMAN ON EARTH.

this is just it!
Re: Gender Inequality: Why Things Won't Be Normal. by golddeejay(m): 1:22pm On Oct 14, 2014
swaggzo:


some men are so weak... that they can't even spell!
dont get ur point
Re: Gender Inequality: Why Things Won't Be Normal. by FADEO: 1:51pm On Oct 14, 2014
swaggzo:



what about the women who take care of the family, pay all the bills and feed and clothe both husband and children. who here then is the head?
The lazy a$$ men that depend on their wives for everything or... what?
some women even sponsor their husbands in school( one family I know, the guy's wife sponsored his masters degree program)
The most annoying thing is that people don't even seem to recognize those type of women. no matter what they do, their husband's still get all the glory just cuz he's "the man"

May God bless such women jare.

The bible categorically states that a man that cannot feed his family is worse than an infidel. Women are a blessing to our world. But considering a married couple, the man is the head of a woman but outside the married couple life no man (including me) is the head of another woman but the fact that a man don't have the resources to feed for his family does not negate the fact that he is the head of the household. If he is a lazy a$$, that another discussion. He will be termed a figure-head if he cant provide for his family.....lol.

Hope you get my point?

But for gender equality, we are not equally and am not saying men are higher than women but we are not equal. the gender that is higher depends on the personality involved.

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Re: Gender Inequality: Why Things Won't Be Normal. by swaggzo(m): 2:08pm On Oct 14, 2014
FADEO:


The bible categorically states that a man that cannot feed his family is worse than an infidel. Women are a blessing to our world. But considering a married couple, the man is the head of a woman but outside the married couple life no man (including me) is the head of another woman but the fact that a man don't have the resources to feed for his family does not negate the fact that he is the head of the household. If he is a lazy a$$, that another discussion. He will be termed a figure-head if he cant provide for his family.....lol.

Hope you get my point?

But for gender equality, we are not equally and am not saying men are higher than women but we are not equal. the gender that is higher depends on the personality involved.


Finally... The most reasonable guy on nairaland!


I wrote this piece not trying to promote a Gender equality that's not gonna be possible even for the next 50years.
If you follow each line you'll see that I'm only talking about the way children should be raised.
If from day one you start to make your daughters aware that they also have a better part to play in the society when they grow up, when they're grown up its gonna be useful to them. They would want to compete in all spheres of life and partake in every plan the male gender is carrying out.
But if you start beating the drums of marriage and husband matters to them from a very young stage, they'll believe that of course somebody else will always be there to govern them when you're no longer around.
That's why most women can't stand anymore or find it difficult to survive when their husbands are dead or far from them.

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Re: Gender Inequality: Why Things Won't Be Normal. by swaggzo(m): 2:12pm On Oct 14, 2014
I see no reason why I would have One daughter and Four sons, and let my only daughter do all the housework while my Four sons sit in the living room all day watching football and playing video games. Its total n0nsense!

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Re: Gender Inequality: Why Things Won't Be Normal. by Nobody: 2:39pm On Oct 14, 2014
These men-hating lesbians are here again grin grin
Re: Gender Inequality: Why Things Won't Be Normal. by TV01(m): 2:46pm On Oct 14, 2014
carefreewannabe:


I hope you also know that the Bible tells slaves to submit to their masters.

1 Peter 2:18-20 (New International Version)

18 Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh. 19 For it is commendable if a man bears up under the pain of unjust suffering because he is conscious of God. 20 But how is it to your credit if you receive a beating for doing wrong and endure it? But if you suffer for doing good and you endure it, this is commendable before God.


http://www.biblestudytools.com/1-peter/passage.aspx?q=1-peter+2:18-20


So much for medieval teachings.
CafreeWannabe holá, you have come...

Please tell us,

1. what should the Bible exhort (slaves or servants) to do?
2. Do you identify as a Christian or not?


Danke Schon grin


TV

**it must be said - you are doing a darn fine job with the gfifs. You are deffo #1 now, if only on the family section. Kudos**

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Re: Gender Inequality: Why Things Won't Be Normal. by Nobody: 2:49pm On Oct 14, 2014
swaggzo:
I see no reason why I would have One daughter and Four sons, and let my only daughter do all the housework while my Four sons sit in the living room all day watching football and playing video games. Its total n0nsense!
pls when it's time to clear the bushes in the compound, lift heavy materials like generator, carry lugs of wood and all types of hard work, mak sure your daughter is not given a preferential treatment. You are just talking as if boys don't do any work in the house. Some boys even cook, or how do you expect the only girl to eat when both parents have gone to work and she's the youngest child? You lesbians just want men to play your own role but can't play the role men play in the society. Feminism will be taken serious if the amount of coal mine workers hits 1000 and we have female soldiers ranking close to 1/3.

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Re: Gender Inequality: Why Things Won't Be Normal. by Nobody: 2:54pm On Oct 14, 2014
Sophyrocks:


Do you notice that God did not designate adam to be head of Eve in the begining? It was until adam and eve sinned that God told Eve since she decided to sin against him, therefore she would go through pregnancy pains, her husband would dominate her, her cravings will be for her husband and that they were going to grow old and die. This means that all of these consequences including men being heads were not meant to be in the first place. This shows that in the sight of God, all humans, male and female are equal. God detests any form of gender discrimination. Which was why it is written in 1peter 3 vs 7 that Husbands need to show their wives honor since both of them are heirs of the kingdom of God. There would have been a special preference for one gender over another by God. But No, God is never partial. when God gives laws, he gives to every human, male and female. The way he handles both gender shows he views them equally. It is selfish humans who like to dominate others to their injury that created partiality. If men and women are not equal, then Jesus would not have told us that we should DO UNTO OTHERS WHAT WE WOULD LIKE THEM TO DO UNTO YOU.

One thing people do not understand is that it is only when a Man becomes a HUSBAND that he becomes the head of his wife. If you are not a husband, you are not the head of anybody. Note that the word 'Husband' was repeatedly used in the bible when talking about Headship. A man is the HEAD OF HIS WIFE, NOT OF ANOTHER WOMAN/EVERY OTHER WOMAN ON EARTH, NOT OF HIS MOTHER. And inspite of being the Head, 1peter 3vs 7 says you are still to show your wife HONOR. This tells you God almighty is against any form of discrimination.
stinking feminists won't see this
Re: Gender Inequality: Why Things Won't Be Normal. by swaggzo(m): 2:56pm On Oct 14, 2014
Segeggs:
You lesbians just want men to play your own role but can't play the role men play in the society.


If you're reasonable enough, you should know that there are no known male lesbians in the world.

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Re: Gender Inequality: Why Things Won't Be Normal. by Nobody: 2:59pm On Oct 14, 2014
swaggzo:



If you're reasonable enough, you should know that there are no known male lesbians in the world.
which one r you? Lesbian, gay, bi-sexual or transgender? Maybe you're just a woman wrapper

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Re: Gender Inequality: Why Things Won't Be Normal. by TV01(m): 3:02pm On Oct 14, 2014
Sophyrocks:
Do you notice that God did not designate adam to be head of Eve in the begining? It was until adam and eve sinned that God told Eve since she decided to sin against him, therefore she would go through pregnancy pains, her husband would dominate her, her cravings will be for her husband and that they were going to grow old and die. This means that all of these consequences including men being heads were not meant to be in the first place. This shows that in the sight of God, all humans, male and female are equal. God detests any form of gender discrimination. Which was why it is written in 1peter 3 vs 7 that Husbands need to show their wives honor since both of them are heirs of the kingdom of God. There would have been a special preference for one gender over another by God. But No, God is never partial. when God gives laws, he gives to every human, male and female. The way he handles both gender shows he views them equally. It is selfish humans who like to dominate others to their injury that created partiality. If men and women are not equal, then Jesus would not have told us that we should DO UNTO OTHERS WHAT WE WOULD LIKE THEM TO DO UNTO YOU. .
Sophy, Sophy, Sophy, how far? As ever you are all over the place cheesy!

Firstly - the fact that men and women are equal in worth before God, does not preclude different roles and responsibilities and leadership/headship by men - especially in the Family and Church (which is esentially a para-family).

Secondly - The bible has no notion of Gender, so it's prety pointless you co-opting God inot your gender-politics. You also do good job of conflating equality, roles, responsibilities, power and domination to little or no effect

Thirdly - When you get married (big amen I'm hearing grin), will you be after a husband that is "gender correct"? Or "demand equality" in every respect from him?

1 Corinthians 11:3 - But I would have you know , that the head of every man isChrist; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.


Ephesians 5:22 - ves, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.

Colossians 3:18 - Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord.


Sophyrocks:
One thing people do not understand is that it is only when a Man becomes a HUSBAND that he becomes the head of his wife. If you are not a husband, you are not the head of anybody. Note that the word 'Husband' was repeatedly used in the bible when talking about Headship. A man is the HEAD OF HIS WIFE, NOT OF ANOTHER WOMAN/EVERY OTHER WOMAN ON EARTH, NOT OF HIS MOTHER. And inspite of being the Head, 1peter 3vs 7 says you are still to show your wife HONOR. This tells you God almighty is against any form of discrimination.
Does a father have authority over his unmarried daughter?
Does showing someone honour mean "equalising" in every regard?
And if indeed a husband is the head of his wife, haven't you discredited everything you said in the first half of your post cheesy?


TV

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Re: Gender Inequality: Why Things Won't Be Normal. by swaggzo(m): 3:03pm On Oct 14, 2014
Segeggs:
Feminism will be taken serious if the amount of coal mine workers hits 1000 and we have female soldiers ranking close to 1/3.

boy you're being totally pointless.
Even the devil knows that there is a whole lot of differences between masculine and feminine jobs.

About soldiers... If I was given charge to recruit 10 soldiers out of 50 males and 50 females, I'ud pick 7 males and 3 females.
Some things are just too masculine for the feminine gender.
But when it comes to freedom of making decisions and being leaders in the society... I don't see why women deserve so little of everything.

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Re: Gender Inequality: Why Things Won't Be Normal. by SAMBARRY: 3:08pm On Oct 14, 2014
Empty noise by a frustrated misogynist.have a field day.




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Re: Gender Inequality: Why Things Won't Be Normal. by Nobody: 3:11pm On Oct 14, 2014
swaggzo:


boy you're being totally pointless.
Even the devil knows that there is a whole lot of differences between masculine and feminine jobs.
double standards yet you want equality.

swaggzo:
About soldiers... If I was given charge to recruit 10 soldiers out of 50 males and 50 females, I'ud pick 7 males and 3 females.
Some things are just too masculine for the feminine gender
there can. Never be gender equality so long you know and believe in the bolded .
swaggzo:

But when it comes to freedom of making decisions and being leaders in the society... I don't see why women deserve so little of everything.
only the strong lead. You can't sit your stinking and lazy self down and expect the world to be handed to you on a platter of gold. We have strong women in every sector and we men are proud of them cos majority of them got there on merit. I'll advice you to work hard towards success on an individual note instead of following some dumb movement, chanting silly slogans and not doing the right things.

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Re: Gender Inequality: Why Things Won't Be Normal. by swaggzo(m): 3:19pm On Oct 14, 2014
Segeggs:
double standards yet you want equality.

there can. Never be gender equality so long you know and believe in the bolded .only the strong lead. You can't sit your stinking and lazy self down and expect the world to be handed to you on a platter of gold. We have strong women in every sector and we men are proud of them cos majority of them got there on merit. I'll advice you to work hard towards success on an individual note instead of following some dumb movement, chanting silly slogans and not doing the right things.


did you even read my first post?







Have you read the whole of my posts before typing these meaningless words on your device?
Where do you even come from

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Re: Gender Inequality: Why Things Won't Be Normal. by tintingz(m): 3:19pm On Oct 14, 2014
golddeejay:
dis again!!! D feminists will b fightin for gender equality till d end of tym. It has bn like dat frm the beginnin...adam first, then eve made frm him, most responsibilities was on adam. Gender inequalities is embedded in our religion, cultures, mentalities...fight n preach all u want, men always have a headstart over women. It doesnt mean some women cant rise above d obstacles to reach d peak but it is an individual fight n determination, most women r too weak to try. If u r a woman, then stop all these equality talk n walk the walk. The gender inequality will always b der
Abi ooo...

Gender inequality is everywhere.

Feminists of today are just wasting their time. smiley
Re: Gender Inequality: Why Things Won't Be Normal. by tmosco(m): 3:20pm On Oct 14, 2014
swaggzo:


boy you're being totally pointless.
Even the devil knows that there is a whole lot of differences between masculine and feminine jobs.

About soldiers... If I was given charge to recruit 10 soldiers out of 50 males and 50 females, I'ud pick 7 males and 3 females.
Some things are just too masculine for the feminine gender.
But when it comes to freedom of making decisions and being leaders in the society... I don't see why women deserve so little of everything.

U deserve to be a leader because of hw good u ar not because u ar male or female.U will find out dat when it comes to leadership and skills males ar more efficient because right from when a boy is small he is taught to b in charge wen d father is absent. we shouldn't pick a female because dey are more males in a position of authority but because dey can do d job.
Re: Gender Inequality: Why Things Won't Be Normal. by swaggzo(m): 3:25pm On Oct 14, 2014
tmosco:


U deserve to be a leader because of hw good u ar not because u ar male or female.U will find out dat when it comes to leadership and skills males ar more efficient because right from when a boy is small he is taught to b in charge wen d father is absent. we shouldn't pick a female because dey are more males in a position of authority but because dey can do d job.


bro I love your contribution. But you're lacking in some areas. You cannot tell me that Men are better in the job that's why they lead. No.
In Nigeria for example.. Men lead in almost everything because women are always given very little or no chance to prove a point.

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Re: Gender Inequality: Why Things Won't Be Normal. by Nobody: 3:40pm On Oct 14, 2014
swaggzo:



did you even read my first post?







Have you read the whole of my posts before typing these meaningless words on your device?
Where do you even come from
pls don't quote me again
Re: Gender Inequality: Why Things Won't Be Normal. by Nobody: 3:40pm On Oct 14, 2014
TV01:

CafreeWannabe holá, you have come...

Hola, of course, I have come. I was one of the first to support justice. wink

Please tell us,
1. what should the Bible exhort (slaves or servants) to do?

The Bible should condemn slavery.

2. Do you identify as a Christian or not?

Not really. The more I see how people use the Bible to support injustice and inequality, the more I read it, the more distance and dislike am I developing for this religion created by medieval men.

It's just that I love some of Jesus Christ's teachings. I think he was a revolutionary men, way ahead of his time.


Danke Schon grin


TV

Bitte schön. wink smiley

**it must be said - you are doing a darn fine job with the gfifs. You are deffo #1 now, if only on the family section. Kudos**

Not doing a good job at all today. Feeling sick, staying at home. sad
Re: Gender Inequality: Why Things Won't Be Normal. by smartmom(f): 3:42pm On Oct 14, 2014
@poster, I need this thread in this parenting forum urgently as it is needed to contribute to a recent posting there; nigerianparentsforum.com Would like to pm.

http://nigerianparentsforum.com/index.php/kunena/stories-about-children-in-the-media/9401-girls-worldwide-are-living-in-fear-of-abuse
Re: Gender Inequality: Why Things Won't Be Normal. by swaggzo(m): 3:48pm On Oct 14, 2014
Segeggs:
pls don't quote me again



how would I have known that someone like you has an account on nairaland.. If you did not quote me in the first place

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Re: Gender Inequality: Why Things Won't Be Normal. by TV01(m): 3:54pm On Oct 14, 2014
carefreewannabe:

The Bible should condemn slavery.
Aren't you such the SJW?
If you are not personally activist for - and condemning - every single injustice in the world, should I find fault with you?

carefreewannabe:

Not really. The more I see how people use the Bible to support injustice and inequality, the more I read it, the more distance and dislike am I developing for this religion created by medieval men.
Is it because of "how people use it", or "your reading of it"?
You are not the only one who likes to use the disparaging term "medieval". Even if we place their era as medieval, does that make their intelluct, thinking, morality or spirituality in anyway inferior to those of contemporary times?

carefreewannabe:

It's just that I love some of Jesus Christ's teachings. I think he was a revolutionary men, way ahead of his time.
But Christ did not declare himself a man did He. You either judge His claim to be God incarnate true - and Him along with it - or false and His works as well.

carefreewannabe:
Not doing a good job at all today. Feeling sick, staying at home. sad

Get well soon - the German economic machine needs all hands on deck grin. It's not Naija or even the UK, where such malingering is celebrated.


TV

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