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Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by thegoodjoehunt3(m): 10:19am On Aug 08, 2016 |
Oasis007: A lot of people miss the importance of Mikel. People judge Mikel for what he does when he is on the ball but miss his off the ball contributions. That is why people say he played poorly a lot or why has he lasted so long at Chelsea when he is ordinary. Mikel's reading of the game causes an imbalance in the play of the oppositions. That is why, even at Chelsea, when he goes off, the opposing team, somehow gets stronger. If not the Suwon embarrassment, Awo would have made the squad. We prayed for a drubbing. I explained why the criticism were justified. Asking if most of the players are still on the squad list is similar to saying there were no changes at Chelsea after Guus Hiddink replaced Mourinho. Those little changes matter. 1 Like |
Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Oasis007(m): 10:23am On Aug 08, 2016 |
thegoodjoehunt3: The highlighted Points are the Reasons I was a Fan of you Sir! Critiquing a Coach for making tactical blunders is healthy but alleging him wrongly because of vexation is unfair! |
Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by BascoVanVeli(m): 10:28am On Aug 08, 2016 |
Oasis007: where were u when he lost 6-2? Siasia needed u then. It is all to convinient that u pull up when the going is good. U can't blame anybody when even u didn't say anything to defend him, on this thread at least. It is the way of life when u do well u get congratulated and when u do bad u get booed of stage, don't give me any of that Nigerians killed Keshi type talk cuz it doesn't add up. 3 Likes |
Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Oasis007(m): 10:35am On Aug 08, 2016 |
thegoodjoehunt3: We shouldn't over-flog this matter, Siasia can decide to include Awoniyi in the final Olympics Squad and there is nothing you and I would do about it than to come on Nairaland and spit out the vexation here! He knew it that Awoniyi isn't ready for the level, he brought Sadiq who eventually gets him ousted! That's called a fair competition and Siasia was just with the decision. He didn't clinch to the past performance of Awoniyi with the Team rather he goes with the best at the moment! 1 Like |
Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Oasis007(m): 10:42am On Aug 08, 2016 |
BascoVanVeli: It's empty Kettle that makes the loudest Noise! Sometimes you argue, sometimes you silent! Pls don't take it too personal, because this is part of the reasons I refused to defend him in the first instance. And as you can see, I'm engaging Sir Goodjoe in a friendly and healthy debate!
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Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by safarigirl(f): 11:15am On Aug 08, 2016 |
Oasis007:the criticisms were fair. Did you expect people to be praising Siasia for his losses? Do you think Siasia would not have taken the likes of Ajayi to Rio if not for those criticisms? I can guarantee you, those criticisms were instrumental to the team you see, gloating is unnecessary. Especially gloating to people who want nothing but the best for the team and only applied tough love to help the team move forward 3 Likes |
Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Oasis007(m): 11:38am On Aug 08, 2016 |
safarigirl: I guess you ain't using the word on me just because of my stance?! If the word as used by you is directed at Siasia..... Fine! But if it's purposely used against me, pls desist from quoting me henceforth! I respect Ladies a lot, especially the Pundits! All of us can't always be on the same Page, and so far I'm making my stance known without cursing nor insulting anyone, no one should curse or insult me too! Thanks! 3 Likes |
Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by olapluto(m): 1:06pm On Aug 08, 2016 |
Who do we want for quarter finals? 1. For Brazil, share 2. Denmark/Iraq, like 3. South Africa....laugh |
Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by EagleScribes: 1:47pm On Aug 08, 2016 |
thegoodjoehunt3: Siasia is more like Roberto Martinez. All attack, no defence or stability. By the time he meets a tactically superior team, he becomes clueless on what next to do |
Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by BascoVanVeli(m): 5:05pm On Aug 08, 2016 |
Oasis007: Then u stay silent, now is not the time. Ur debate seems like one of personal gratification it is not that of unity. Maybe we have this same conversation after the olympics but not now. Let us stick together and not argue over i told u so. 2 Likes |
Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by enomakos(m): 6:54pm On Aug 08, 2016 |
olapluto:i prefer brazil |
Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by safarigirl(f): 7:33pm On Aug 08, 2016 |
Oasis007:i've not even said anything and you're already taking offence You've been parading yourself on this thread as the sole believer in Siasia, even though you were silent while he was being persecuted. If you had an opinion this strong, you should have put your neck on the line like Forgiveness did, you don't get to have an opinion to spread at this point. 2 Likes |
Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by confun: 7:44pm On Aug 08, 2016 |
olapluto:was it not Iran we met at group stage of world cup that parked bus all through the match, I no like dem 1 Like |
Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Nobody: 7:57pm On Aug 08, 2016 |
I think the point is that there is a difference between criticism and accusing a person of bribery. |
Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by BascoVanVeli(m): 8:08pm On Aug 08, 2016 |
Now the issue is what we do against Colombia. Do we rest our players or see how they fare against another attacking team. The group is secure but as we have come to see resting players can backfire. |
Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by bigblangston: 8:15pm On Aug 08, 2016 |
Lmao!! So Samson Siasia logged on to nairaland to open this thread to read your comments about his team before the olympic games right? I'm amazed 1 Like |
Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Oasis007(m): 8:46pm On Aug 08, 2016 |
bigblangston: Don't mind them! |
Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Oasis007(m): 8:53pm On Aug 08, 2016 |
bataderemi: Critiquing is healthy but falsely alleging someone because you ain't happy with his method, tactics or selection is wrong! I don't have time to drag it further..... I've made my points known whether they like it or not! It seems they don't want people like us to join the Thread..... it's either you fall in line or fall out with them! Thanks to all.... especially Safarigirl! I wasn't disappointed with her response to my stance. Also, I'm gonna take the advice of BascoVanVeli with seriousness! I will be back again after the Olympics! |
Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Icon4s(m): 8:53pm On Aug 08, 2016 |
Oasis007: Firstly let me set the records straight. No one of us who criticised Siasia's players selection wrote him off. We still believed that the team would at least put up a descent performance. I have been active on joseph's threads since early last yr and i can tell u that we have here some of the best foorball analysts in this country. Nobody needed to convince or confuse any1 here. His selections and friendlies results were there to see. Which included repeated trashing by d Flying Eagles. Every single person that criticed Siasia's team selection had every reason to do so. In our very eyes, our best talents were being neglected for mediocre players and u expect the pundicts here to clap for Siasia abt that? I still feel we could have produced a better team than this sef. And no use playing d "i told u game". The same forgiveness that u claim is justified for clamouring for inclusion of Sadiq wrote off Etebo Citing reasons that any player hu is above 18 that is still in the Nigerian league is a write off. TheGoodJoe would remember that argument. After Etebo's 4goals Y didn't we come here shouting "i told u, i told u". U have mentioned that we all cannot have same opinion so if u have a contrary opinion , this is a free forum, feel free to say it and nt waiting for an outcome beforw commenting. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Oasis007(m): 9:01pm On Aug 08, 2016 |
Icon4s: Thanks for responding maturely, though I am not amazed because I've been following the thread since last Year too! Tbaba, Joseph, Supernerd, AIG07, SirGoodJoe, Safarigirl are names you can't do without seeing on any of the National Team Threads! I've said it earlier that; critiquing or criticizing is healthy but falsely alleging someone is what I am against! Many said it here that Siasia had collected Bribes from certain set of Players thus they must be on the Plane to RIO. I am only asking those who made the allegation to mention the names of the Players if they are in the Team presently! |
Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by thegoodjoehunt3(m): 7:51am On Aug 09, 2016 |
EagleScribes: I hope this is not the case. I am rooting for Coach Siasia on this one. He has something other coaches do not have and that is that Denmark drubbing. That horror is still on his mind and he knows going all out has consequences. In the last two games, we have seen a different Coach Siasia. He made switches to secure his goal. Let us hope he grows with this tournament and his players grow with the system. If things go as expected, the Dream Team will go in confidence, believe in the system and play their part. It is important they play without leaving too much space behind them and when they lose the ball, let them work together to prevent goals. Fly Eagles Fly |
Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by joseph1013: 7:59am On Aug 09, 2016 |
[b][size=14pt]EXCLUSIVE: CHELSEA STAR MIKEL, OTHERS STOP SIASIA FROM QUITTING[/size] AfricanFootball.com can exclusively reveal that it needed the quick intervention of Chelsea skipper Mikel Obi and other players to stop Samson Siasia from resigning as coach of Nigeria Olympic team. A top source in the team told AfricanFootball.com: “Siasia wanted to quit his post after the win over Sweden, but the players led by Mikel begged him to rescind his decision. “The coach complained that he has been badly treated by the authorities, he has not been paid for five months and his team have not received the necessary support to succeed.” The outspoken Siasia has openly complained about his poor working conditions even before the Rio Olympics. And at the height of the drama when the team were stranded at their training base in Atlanta, Georgia, Siasia shunned the calls of sports minister Solomon Dalung and directly called the Nigerian vice-president Yemi Osinbajo to complain about his team’s plight. Nigeria have already qualified for the last eight of the Rio Olympics and await the runners-up in Group A, which looks likely to be hosts Brazil, for a place in the semi-finals of the Olympics event. They take on Colombia in the final group game on Wednesday in Sao Paulo. http://africanfootball.com/news/636626/EXCLUSIVE-Chelsea-star-Mikel-others-stop-Siasia-from-quitting[/b] 1 Like |
Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by joseph1013: 8:00am On Aug 09, 2016 |
[b][size=14pt]CAF $60,000 TO PAY SIASIA, OTHERS - NFF BOSS PINNICK [/size] NFF president Amaju Pinnick has disclosed he has directed that a grant of $60,000 recently received from the Confederation of African Football (CAF) be used to clear the unpaid salaries of Nigeria Olympic team coach Samson Siasia and his assistants. Before the Olympics in Rio, Siasia told the media he has not received his salary for five months. It has also been revealed by AfricanFootball.com that the coach threatened to quit his post after the team’s win over Sweden in Manaus on Monday and had to be begged by his players led by Chelsea star Mikel Obi to rescind this decision. “I have directed the secretariat that the $60,000 we received from CAF be used immediately to pay the U23 team coaches,” Pinnick revealed on a YouTube interview. “Use this money to pay them and we are in the process of paying them.” The NFF boss admitted the federation is “financially challenged”. He said the past NFF administration led by Aminu Maigari left his board with “an obscene amount of debts”. http://africanfootball.com/news/636667/CAF-60000-to-pay-Siasia-others-NFF-boss-Pinnick[/b] 1 Like |
Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by thegoodjoehunt3(m): 8:07am On Aug 09, 2016 |
safarigirl: Am I missing something? When did forgiveness put his neck on the line for Coach Siasia? I did not notice it. cc: forgiveness. |
Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by EagleScribes: 8:28am On Aug 09, 2016 |
thegoodjoehunt3: Yeah. I really hope so. But he needs to be careful with his Mikel substitutions. We have a thin squad. Like you said, he's learning. He should remember what happened when we faced Japan at the WYC 2005 after Mikel was subbed 1 Like |
Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by thegoodjoehunt3(m): 8:34am On Aug 09, 2016 |
Oasis007: If people here feel they know it all, do you think we would debate or have different point of views? I must point that you are not making it healthy when you throw in statements like that. People had different opinions. No one here worked in the camp to say money exchanged hands. Those accusations came from agents and managers of players Coach Siasia did not pick. Some believed that as the explanation of why Coach Siasia dropped some good players or why he did not call some that will give some players in the squad competition. We come here to share ideas and educate ourselves. If we know all, we would not read information from different sources posted here. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by thegoodjoehunt3(m): 8:47am On Aug 09, 2016 |
bigblangston: When we talk of criticism of Coach Siasia, we are not talking about just people on this thread. There were criticism from seasoned football journalist. It would be misleading if you believe it is impossible for Coach Siasia not to know about this thread because this thread is very viral. To explain this, I did a Google search: OLYMPICS SIASIA BIAS and this thread came out as number five. If you understand the viral nature of google, it means a little search of Siasia on Google will land here. 1 Like
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Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by thegoodjoehunt3(m): 8:54am On Aug 09, 2016 |
EagleScribes: South Korea, not Japan but your assessment is hundred percent accurate. We were one nil up, he pulled out Mikel and the team collapsed. We conceded two and lost the game. I hope Coach Siasia learnt from his substitution of Mikel in the Swede match. As you pointed out, as we move into the knockout phases of the tourney, we face stronger teams with more tactical discipline and coaches who are capable of reading our weaknesses. We need caution, discipline and most importantly respect. Let us pray and hope Coach Siasia has enough experiences to deal with the coming challenges. |
Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by thegoodjoehunt3(m): 9:04am On Aug 09, 2016 |
joseph1013: Not again. When will we have a smooth competition. Another challenge. As much as I feel for Coach Siasia and his crew, it hurts me that we are going through this when we are showing signs of having a good tournament in Rio. Things like this affects the team more than we know. This is a professional tournament filled with pros. Any commotion or disrupt to training plans can affect the squad. Please, Coach Siasia and his crew should hold on. This has been a tough ride. Come On, Dream Team. |
Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by EagleScribes: 9:04am On Aug 09, 2016 |
thegoodjoehunt3: You are absolutely right. There won't be a second chance at the knock out stages. And thanks for the correction. 1 Like |
Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by thegoodjoehunt3(m): 9:09am On Aug 09, 2016 |
joseph1013: Nice of Amaju Pinnick to pay the salaries of the coaches. Pinnick should not let the situation deteriorate to this stage before acting. Ensure the coaches are paid before the qualifiers and tournament to avoid confusion during qualifiers and tournaments. Same goes to bonuses of players. Pinnick and his technical committee should forecast coming challenges before it happens. This was what affected our U20 team. Thanks to Mikel and the players who helped keep Coach Siasia in the squad. |
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