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Re: Why Tambuwal's Security Was Withdrawn: He's No Longer The Speaker by Montaque(m): 3:24pm On Oct 30, 2014
EbolaParasite:


Are you ok? Can't you read.
This is about position as speaker. If you defect, you do not lose your position. What he is losing in this case is his position as SPEAKER and not as a member of the house. Is it so hard for you to comprehend. How did you pass WAEC?
le le! Its even you that should answer the above questions. What you lose if you defect without lawful excuse is your membership. Speakership is determined by internal house rule. What we are saying is that when one loses his membership,he also relinguishes all the entitlement he has as a member,speakership inclusive.
Re: Why Tambuwal's Security Was Withdrawn: He's No Longer The Speaker by CrinkumCrankum: 3:25pm On Oct 30, 2014
gabicon:
This is the genesis of our problems when public servants who ought to act as professionals tow the line of politics. When did the police begin to interprete our laws for us? Has our judiciary gotten so useless? I think GEJ needs be careful about all these escapades cos it will definately come around back. I personally believe he will win the 2015 election but these same PDP cronies will have nothing to prove to him again or need anything from him and that will be were his problems will start, these same people pushing tooth and nail for him. We can see how the ministers used him as a platform to launch themselves into main stream gubernatorial candidates people who have acquired experience in office and are surpose to stay on to make him succeed now he has to get people to start from scratch.
PDP needs to learn to not waste resources fighting fruitless battles, the speaker and house can do little or nothing productive with the time left. 3 months to election which will be used for campaigns and so on. why not save the ace for something better?

They did not interpret the law, they Just ENFORCE it which is their primary duty...you are a LEANER....Politics is not for babies cool cool
Re: Why Tambuwal's Security Was Withdrawn: He's No Longer The Speaker by samuelnwankwo: 3:26pm On Oct 30, 2014
Why would he abandon the platform upon which he was elected? We in Nigeria are only known for POLITICS OF SENTIMENT!
Re: Why Tambuwal's Security Was Withdrawn: He's No Longer The Speaker by abdulabbakar(m): 3:27pm On Oct 30, 2014
size38:
Nigerian police, GEJ and the PDP playing it dirty here. This is politics of bitterness siting relevant section of the constitution that does not go with the argument. My question is: Is Aminu Tambuwal the speaker of PDP, the Nigerian police or the speaker of house of Representatives of Nigeria?

God bless your parents for borning You intelligent grin
Re: Why Tambuwal's Security Was Withdrawn: He's No Longer The Speaker by Montaque(m): 3:28pm On Oct 30, 2014
BOAR:


That is purely your interpretation.

The Speaker has interpreted it in a different manner, the court should be final arbiter.

The problem is that the Military messed up the country laws, these are issues that should have been tested long time ago in Nigeria and proper interpretation gotten from the Courts.
Re: Why Tambuwal's Security Was Withdrawn: He's No Longer The Speaker by blym4real: 3:29pm On Oct 30, 2014
EbolaParasite:


Are you ok? Can't you read.
This is about position as speaker. If you defect, you do not lose your position. What he is losing in this case is his position as SPEAKER and not as a member of the house. Is it so hard for you to comprehend. How did you pass WAEC?
go back and study your constitution sir. The provisions clearly state that a state or
federal lawmakers must vacate his or her seat
after defecting to another political party,
member of the Senate or House of
Representative shall vacate his seat in the
House of which he is a member if (g) being a
person whose election to the House was
sponsored by a political party before the
expiration of the period for which that house
was elected provided that his membership of the
latter political party is not as a result of a
division in the political party of which he was
reviously a member or of a merger of two or
more political parties or faction by one of which
he was previously sponsored”.
Re: Why Tambuwal's Security Was Withdrawn: He's No Longer The Speaker by BOAR: 3:29pm On Oct 30, 2014
EbolaParasite:


Kindly explain

Let's us all stay focus on the issue.

While some like you are saying he only loses the Speaker seat, others like Chukwudi are saying he is no longer a member of the house.

In every part of the constitution, it's very clear that ONLY the members can remove the speaker or the deputy.
Re: Why Tambuwal's Security Was Withdrawn: He's No Longer The Speaker by Omimah: 3:31pm On Oct 30, 2014
gateleo:
Who gave Tambuwal the speakership mandate? PDP or the opposition members of the House. Tambuwal was never the candidate of the PDP. The PDP wanted Mulikat Akande, while the opposition and majority of the PDP members voted for Tambuwal. We should go back and check this fact before coming here again.
The procedure of electing principal members at the Legislature is NOT based on party affiliation. The "standing order" only says that members "shall elect among themselves". No mention was made about which party to elect from.

This is impunity in the highest order. Is the police the court to interprets the constitution? Is the IG lackey of the pdp?. Tambuwal is still the speaker of the house of rep. Read the provisions of the constitution on the removal of speaker. This matter is still in court. Jonathan should be very very careful
May you increase in wisdom.

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Re: Why Tambuwal's Security Was Withdrawn: He's No Longer The Speaker by DEUNSTOPPABLE(m): 3:32pm On Oct 30, 2014
ARE YOU THE ONE THAT REMOVED HIM FROM HOR? CAN ANYONE ROMOVE HIM WITHOUT THE CONSENT OF THE MEMBERS? YOU BETTER KEEP QUIET SMALL BOY.
chukwudi44:


DO YOU ASSIGN SECURITY DETAILS TO AN ORDINARY CITIZEN? TAMBUWAL IS NO LONGER A MEMBER OF THE HOR NOR SPEAKER AND SO IS NOT ENTITLED TO ANY SECURITY DETAILS
Re: Why Tambuwal's Security Was Withdrawn: He's No Longer The Speaker by koladebrainiac(m): 3:32pm On Oct 30, 2014
Beehshorp:
You want to eat ur cake and have it abi Mr tambuwal.. See let me tell u defecting from the PDP to APC is like taking 5 steps backwards ask amaechi d moment he defected he became el rufai's driver... A word is enough for the wise








PS: APC e-rats/rodents quote me make thunder fire una
What of Ribadu? U promised him governor now.
What of finitirin abi kilo je? Wetin u give them?
Re: Why Tambuwal's Security Was Withdrawn: He's No Longer The Speaker by Nobody: 3:34pm On Oct 30, 2014
Temptee101:
I vowed not to comment on this again because i was getting fed up with the recent shameful happenings in nigeria untill i came across your post. I needed to enlighten you where probably you lost it. There is nowhere in the constitution where it was stipulated that the speaker house of reps must/should come from the majority, though the speaker if he was a man of integrity ought to have resigned honourably but as usual this is Naija and we are talking about our ever greedy power drunk corrupt politicians, i'm not surprised. Removing the speaker would only be possible if and only if 2/3 of the majority of the house vote in favour of that. Its true the PDP is of the majority but they dont make up to 2/3 of the majority. At it stands PDP is handicapped here, they need to lobby other members who are of the opposition to get their votes. You can agree with me that it will be easier for the head of a camel to pass through the mouth of needle than for the opposition members to be in support of it. Let me stop here. Am just tried of the set of visionless leaders that we parade.
Tambuwal is no longer a member of the HOR let alone been speaker.2/3 votes does not count here
Re: Why Tambuwal's Security Was Withdrawn: He's No Longer The Speaker by dallyemmy: 3:34pm On Oct 30, 2014
Are you sure there is no divivsion or faction in the present PDP?
karlmax2:
this what the ig means

section 68. (1) A member of the Senate or of the House of Representatives shall vacate his seat in the House of which he is a member if -

Then

(g) being a person whose election to the House was sponsored by a political party, he becomes a member of another political party before the expiration of the period for which that House was elected;

Provided that his membership of the latter political party is not as a result of a division in the political party of which he was previously a member or of a merger of two or more political parties or factions by one of which he was previously sponsored; or
Re: Why Tambuwal's Security Was Withdrawn: He's No Longer The Speaker by Nobody: 3:35pm On Oct 30, 2014
DEUNSTOPPABLE:
ARE YOU THE ONE THAT REMOVED HIM FROM HOR? CAN ANYONE ROMOVE HIM WITHOUT THE CONSENT OF THE MEMBERS? YOU BETTER KEEP QUIET SMALL BOY.

The law removed him and not me or the house members
Re: Why Tambuwal's Security Was Withdrawn: He's No Longer The Speaker by Nobody: 3:36pm On Oct 30, 2014
dallyemmy:
Are you sure there is no divivsion or faction in the present PDP?

Which division are you talking about
Re: Why Tambuwal's Security Was Withdrawn: He's No Longer The Speaker by sademola: 3:36pm On Oct 30, 2014
chukwudi44:
The IGP is simply abiding by the dictates of the 1999 constitution.he is enforcing the law he swore to uphold,s it is very much in order

Same way as it was done in Ekiti and Ondo legislatures that defected, abi?
Re: Why Tambuwal's Security Was Withdrawn: He's No Longer The Speaker by Omimah: 3:37pm On Oct 30, 2014
Montaque:
yes the case was instituted,but what was the decision on it? The sections they relied upon is nebulous. That cannot be compared to the clear provisions that a member of parliament stand disqualified as as such if he defects without just cause.there is no similar provision for the Governors in the CFRN. Its a lacuna and Its still to be decided by the court. Please dont make the comparism, TAmbuwal as far as the constitution is concerned is no longer a member of the house,irrespective of the case in court for the Governors that defected.
Be reasonable! If PDP feels what the Speaker did was wrong, are they not supposed to take him to court? By withdrawing his security details and making Ihedioha the new Speaker would only result to crisis when the House resumes plenary in December. This may snowball to a national crisis.

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Re: Why Tambuwal's Security Was Withdrawn: He's No Longer The Speaker by temitemi1(m): 3:39pm On Oct 30, 2014
donphilopus:
Why would they withdraw his Security?! Anyways, withdrawing his security doesn't mean anything, after all they once withdrew Amaechi's security. That doesn't still change the fact that PDP is a sinking ship and that Jonathan is going back to Otuoke come 2015.

BTW, who's the lazy fellow that moved this hocus pocus to the Homepage?! I read through the write-up, but never saw anything like “He's no longer the Speaker” in the source the OP provided. Instead of banning the OP for misleading Nigerians, the nitwit rewarded the OP by moving his stale thread to the homepage!
"Jonathan is going back to Otuoke come 2015" bros, u shabi dream ooo... I beg tell me wn u are awake from dream land. GEJ till 2019!!!

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Re: Why Tambuwal's Security Was Withdrawn: He's No Longer The Speaker by jadajada: 3:39pm On Oct 30, 2014
Tambuwa has d right to decamp while d president also have d power to withdraw his security but weather d withdrawal of his security is legal or not is left 4 d court to decide. And, to tambuwal, u can't eat ur cake and have it.
Re: Why Tambuwal's Security Was Withdrawn: He's No Longer The Speaker by abdulabbakar(m): 3:39pm On Oct 30, 2014
chukwudi44:



WHICH COURT DECLARED NYAKO'S SEAT VACANT? DID THE HOUSE NOT FOLLOW THE DICTATES OF THE CONSTITUTION TO REMOVE HIM? TAMBUWAL HAS LOST HIS SEAT.IF HE WANTS TO CONTEST IT LET HIM GO TO COURT OR STAND FOR ANOTHER ELECTION UNDER HIS NEW PARTY

Go and read the impeachment section between the line...The panel to be set up for the removal shall be headed by the CJ!
lipsrsealed

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Re: Why Tambuwal's Security Was Withdrawn: He's No Longer The Speaker by blym4real: 3:40pm On Oct 30, 2014
Montaque:
yes,thats the law,tho heavens fall. There are exceptions though,so it may not apply to all of them.
thanks for the mature comments. Please help educate ebolaparasite on the interpretation of the nigeria constitution
Re: Why Tambuwal's Security Was Withdrawn: He's No Longer The Speaker by Nobody: 3:41pm On Oct 30, 2014
abdulabbakar:


Go and read the impeachment section between the line...The panel to be set up for the removal shall be headed by the CJ!
lipsrsealed

The same way section 68 says Tambuwal has been removed
Re: Why Tambuwal's Security Was Withdrawn: He's No Longer The Speaker by BOAR: 3:42pm On Oct 30, 2014
Omimah:

Be reasonable! If PDP feels what the Speaker did was wrong, are they not supposed to take him to court? By withdrawing his security details and making Ihedioha the new Speaker would only result to crisis when the House resumes plenary in December. This may snowball to a national crisis.

The leaders of the country will do everything to avert this.

PDP will be wise to allow Tambuwal to keep the seat for the few remaining months, any aggression towards him while making Ikedioha the apparent and ultimate beneficiary can only escalate the brouhaha.
Re: Why Tambuwal's Security Was Withdrawn: He's No Longer The Speaker by Omimah: 3:43pm On Oct 30, 2014
CrinkumCrankum:


Dumby...Governors have Immunity and the law only apply to HoA.....
You're the dumb here. What has immunity got to do with the call for Mimiko to vacate his seat for defecting to PDP. Do you even understand what immunity means?
Re: Why Tambuwal's Security Was Withdrawn: He's No Longer The Speaker by Urine: 3:44pm On Oct 30, 2014
hardywaltz:
The function of the Police is not to interpret the provisions of the Constitution, that is the exclusive preserve of the Judiciary.
That said the section which the Forces Public Relations officer quoted has to do with Tambuwal's eligibility as a legislator which is a matter currently before the courts.

In the eyes of the law Tambuwal is the substantive speaker of the house until he has been removed in accordance with the provisions of the CFR as amended.

However if PDP is confident that they control the votes of the house, let the Deputy Speaker Emeka Ihedioha reconvene the house; (3/4) members need to sign the notice of extra - ordinary meeting and 2/3 majority is needed to form a qurom. And formally commence impeachment proceedings against the Speaker.

PDP knows it can't muster the needed votes so they have resorted to self help which is equivalent to Jungle justice.

End of Discussion!

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Re: Why Tambuwal's Security Was Withdrawn: He's No Longer The Speaker by Nobody: 3:44pm On Oct 30, 2014
BOAR:


The leaders of the country will do everything to avert this.

PDP will be wise to allow Tambuwal to keep the seat for the few remaining months, any aggression towards him while making Ikedioha the apparent and ultimate beneficiary can only escalate the brouhaha.
You are dreaming if you think a minority party would be allowed to preside over the house.
Re: Why Tambuwal's Security Was Withdrawn: He's No Longer The Speaker by Montaque(m): 3:45pm On Oct 30, 2014
Omimah:

Be reasonable! If PDP feels what the Speaker did was wrong, are they not supposed to take him to court? By withdrawing his security details and making Ihedioha the new Speaker would only result to crisis when the House resumes plenary in December. This may snowball to a national crisis.
the IGP withdrew his security details only,and its justified on the ground that he is not a member of the house anymore. About a new speaker,it will be the person the house will vote in his favour when they resume plenary. It can be anybody. And there is no need for court action,its a positive declaration.
Re: Why Tambuwal's Security Was Withdrawn: He's No Longer The Speaker by BOAR: 3:45pm On Oct 30, 2014
chukwudi44:

You are dreaming if you think a minority party would be allowed to preside over the house.

and you are dreaming big time if you think Ihedioha will become the Speaker.
Re: Why Tambuwal's Security Was Withdrawn: He's No Longer The Speaker by CrinkumCrankum: 3:45pm On Oct 30, 2014
DEUNSTOPPABLE:
ARE YOU THE ONE THAT REMOVED HIM FROM HOR? CAN ANYONE ROMOVE HIM WITHOUT THE CONSENT OF THE MEMBERS? YOU BETTER KEEP QUIET SMALL BOY.
The constitution removed him
Re: Why Tambuwal's Security Was Withdrawn: He's No Longer The Speaker by Nobody: 3:46pm On Oct 30, 2014
Iamdagreatguy:
Nonsense!!! Arrant Nonsense,
This IGP is just taking laws into his hand,,has the house impeached himhas the court declared his seat vacant,,,why can't the same thing be done to Olusegun Mimiko of Ondo who recently decamped to PDP.
One of the reason I don't like this PDP's government.
GEJ was my candidate in 2011,,time to correct my mistake.
Btw,wat does the constitution quoted says,,,the second paragraph gives room to decamp bt only on the ground that there is conflict or faction in d party.
Presently in sokoto there is faction in PDP,,,so why is the IGP taking laws into his own hands?

I bet you don't know the job of a police..

You think arresting and collecting #50 is their only job abi?

Small pikin sense still dey ur head.. grin
Re: Why Tambuwal's Security Was Withdrawn: He's No Longer The Speaker by Nobody: 3:47pm On Oct 30, 2014
BOAR:


and you are dreaming big time if you think Ihedioha will become the Speaker.
Ihedioha is already speaker son
Re: Why Tambuwal's Security Was Withdrawn: He's No Longer The Speaker by boyt1: 3:48pm On Oct 30, 2014
LET HIM USE THE BOYS SCOUT/MAN NO WAR. GOOD IDEA IGP

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