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Re: List Of People That Have Demanded Boko Haram Amnesty by babestella: 11:07am On Nov 04, 2014 |
THIS WILL HELP YOU MAKE UP YOUR MIND ON WHETHER TO VOTE FOR OR AGAINST THE RETIRED GENERAL BUHARI. http://pointblanknews.com/pbn/exclusive/20-reasons-nigerians-rejected-buhari-since-2003/ 1 Like |
Re: List Of People That Have Demanded Boko Haram Amnesty by MeAboki(m): 11:14am On Nov 04, 2014 |
gists: You don't seem to understand my point because your response appears confused and at times even contradictory. First of all, I'd like to say whenever one is faced with a problem he often also has a choice of possible options as solution, ranging from the best to the worst. In the case of BH, the FG has predominantly chosen brute force, which has so far not worked; in view of which some ppl (named by the OP among many others) were advising the government to also consider amnesty as a parallel alternative. - which unfortunately is being erroneously misconstrued as an endorsement and even support for BH (in most cases for apparently political/ethno-religious sentiment rather rational reasoning). No, amnesty alone cannot address the issue of Boko Haram (as we know it) neither would it resolve any other problem of murderous nature by any group (be it OPC as in the example you gave) because amnesty by itself cannot and has never been a panacea for such problems. As already mentioned, it simply offers a conduit for reducing the size/number from within the ranks of the enemy and thereby weakening it - in this case, targeting and offering its predominantly impoverished less committed foot soldiers an easy way out; so as to isolate the remaining die hards and especially the leadership for elimination. You also need to appreciate that the real BH (not their political or criminal variants) are fighting a war of ideology where force alone cannot change their minds but could instead harden and even make them more entrenched in their resolve than before. In fact students of history would recall how BH metamorphosized from a relatively peaceful sect to the radicalised brutally violent one that we have today; through mismanagement of the problem by successive governments by the use of excessive force; starting from Yar Adu'a's administration, as members of the sect were then being singled out for police brutality, culminating in the public extrajudicial killing of their leader, Mohammed Yusuf. It would also be recalled that the sect had in its early days taken their cases of complaints to all relevant authorities but without success and subsequently decided take up arms, first to defend themselves but soon afterwards as a means for revenge against their immediate tormentors, the police; then against other law enforcement agents as well as rival clerics and finally to anyone, Christian or Muslim, they deem as an obstacle to their cause. Uninformed southerners driven by propaganda are being misled to believe that majority of northers sympathize with BH; forgetting (on the contrary) that majority of them are in fact victims living in fear, afraid to speak out in case of brutal reprisals against them because BH elements usually embed themselves within the same community, as cover and also to gather intelligence on their next target. Those who spoke out, including prominent leaders e.g. late Emir of Kano Ado Bayero, General Mamman Shuwa, GMB, IBB, Sultan etc have already paid with their lives or on the death list of those earmarked for assassination by BH. Another reason why use of brute force alone is counter productive rests with fact that, in the course of their pursuit of the enemy, our soldiers (like other examples elsewhere, including USA military engaging similar tactics) end up traumatising, brutalising and even killing many among the civilian population they were supposed to protect; thereby losing out on the important battle of winning hearts and minds. In the process, some of these civilians become easy targets of indoctrination and conversion, as these acts drive some of them into the willing arms of the enemy in order to take revenge against our soldiers. The problem is no longer a regional issue but a national one, and the buck clearly rests at the doorstep of the government, whose function is to protect all its citizens. Of course there have been no high profile trial of prominent suspects (e.g. Ndume, Madu Sharif etc) because the government of the day, headed by Goodluck Jonathan is courting them for continued support towards achieving his own personal agenda at the expense of many innocent Nigerians, caught up in the cross fire. Jonathan is seemingly behaving like Nero, fiddling while Rome burnt, his government is plagued by blatant corruption and ineptitude arising from his divisive politics and misrule - even the international community are saying the same thing - including the use of force alone. http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/nigeria-has-capacity-but-lacks-will-to-tackle-boko-haram-says-us-official/160826/ 1 Like |
Re: List Of People That Have Demanded Boko Haram Amnesty by Kagarko(m): 11:19am On Nov 04, 2014 |
[quote author=ofiafuluego post=2769 They are in both parties . As both PDP and APC loyalists advocated for amnesty. |
Re: List Of People That Have Demanded Boko Haram Amnesty by nigerianvenom(m): 11:20am On Nov 04, 2014 |
Omexonomy: they are at the background monitoring progress report |
Re: List Of People That Have Demanded Boko Haram Amnesty by babestella: 11:22am On Nov 04, 2014 |
Take note of Bihari's comments when the FG clamped down on the BH sect. 15. He Has Soft-spot For Boko Haram: Buhari made the following statements which support Boko Haram: “The declaration of state of emergency in three Northern states of Adamawa, Borno and Yobe is a grave injustice against the North.” – M. Buhari (Liberty Radio, June 2, 2013) “…when the Niger Delta militants started their activities in the South-South, they were invited by the late President Umaru Yar’adua. An aircraft was sent to them and their leaders met with the late President in Aso Rock and discussed issues. They were given money and a training scheme was introduced for their members. But when the Boko Haram emerged in the north, members of the sect were killed”. – M. Buhari (Liberty Radio, Kaduna May 14 2012) But on Ombatse, his tone changed because they killed Fulanis: “…But those that killed the 56 security men must be hunted and prosecuted no matter how long it will take because this is the bottom line about law and order, and security in the country. They can’t be forgiven, they can’t override the constitution, Nigerians are being hurt and killed in their duties and those that killed them must be brought before the law.” - M. Buhari |
Re: List Of People That Have Demanded Boko Haram Amnesty by babestella: 11:24am On Nov 04, 2014 |
MORE ABOUT BUHARI. He Is Corrupt: That a blind man doesn’t see the sun don’t mean the sun is not up in the sky. That Buhari has not been jailed for corrupt practises doesn’t mean he is not corrupt, after-all, nobody has jailed IBB, OBJ etc., yet people say they’re corrupt. Buhari has never been able to account to Nigerians what he did with the N25 billion missing in PTF of which he was the chairman. Shagari incurred Buhari’s wrath when he decided to investigate the US$2.8 billion that disappeared from NNPC account and traced to the Midland Bank, London. Justice Ayo Irikefe panel was set-up and Saraki headed the Senate committee. The following were unequivocally discovered: Firstly, a judicial panel was set up to trace the $2.8billion (Justice Ayo Irikefe panel). Secondly, a senate committee was also set up to trace the $2.8billion (headed by the elder Saraki). The findings of the senate committee were reported live on NTA by Vera Ifudu. Buhari overthrew the govt to burn and shred the evidence. Buhari got Vera Ifudu sacked. Vera Ifudu and the NTA went to court. Vera Ifudu won her case, got reinstated and was paid compensation A man that procured a loan of N27.5million to purchase his presidential form using man-know-man approach is definitely corrupt. Buhari ought to live by example. 13. He Is A Pretender And Deceiver: Buhari claims that he has no foreign bank account, no booming business, no house in Lagos or Abuja. He has 2 houses: one in Katsina and the other in Kaduna. Yet he has been contesting elections since 2003 and pursuing it up to the Supreme Court with his team of SANs. The minimum appearance fee for a SAN at the Presidential election case at the Supreme Court is N25 million. Where did he get this money? Can he tell us his sponsors? He borrowed N27.5 million to buy a form, yet he moves around in Chattered aircraft each time he wants to fly which is costlier than owing one. Buhari is definitely a pretender. Source: http://pointblanknews.com/pbn/exclusive/20-reasons-nigerians-rejected-buhari-since-2003/ 1 Like |
Re: List Of People That Have Demanded Boko Haram Amnesty by babestella: 11:26am On Nov 04, 2014 |
MORE. He Is An Ethnic Bigot Who Thinks That Vendetta Is Fighting Corruption: After Buhari and his boys overthrew the govt of Shagari with the sole reason that the govt was highly corrupt, he locked up Dr. Alex Ekwueme – the then VP in Kirikiri maximum prison but left Shagari – the president and Head of govt in his mansion. Ekwueme was tried by the tribunal set-up by Buhari and the tribunal declared that he was even poorer than he was before he came into office. Yet, Buhari jailed him and allowed Shagari to relax in his mansion. He gave Dede Sam Mbakwe 100-year jail term for stealing nothing and also went after his wife. Ambrose Ali was tried for an undeveloped plot of land and he was jailed for 75 years with heavy torture that led to blindness and later death. Jim Nwobodo and Lateef Jakande were jailed for 100 years for stealing nothing. Adekunle Ajasin was tried by a military tribunal and found innocent. Buhari ordered a fresh trial, he was found innocent again. Buhari changed the tribunal and tried him again. He was still found innocent. Buhari still jailed him. But, Buhari left his personal friend – Awwal Ibrahim – the then highly corrupt governor of Niger State who was arrested at Heathrow airport with £14 million. Awwal was never jailed. He was placed under house arrest in his mansion like Shagari for just two weeks and indeed released. 6. He Is A Coupist: Buhari has no moral ground to stand for an election in Nigeria because he’s a destroyer of democracy and can never benefit from it. He overthrew a duly elected govt and ruled illegitimately until he was kicked out. For those that claim he was invited, go read the recent interview by Chief Ebenezer Babatope on why Chief Solomon Lar was imprisoned by Buhari. Source: http://pointblanknews.com/pbn/exclusive/20-reasons-nigerians-rejected-buhari-since-2003/ 1 Like |
Re: List Of People That Have Demanded Boko Haram Amnesty by experimentist: 11:37am On Nov 04, 2014 |
babestella:saTANist, how market? 1 Like |
Re: List Of People That Have Demanded Boko Haram Amnesty by gists: 11:39am On Nov 04, 2014 |
MeAboki: Yet again you made a lot of sense which I agree. But I didn't say anything about military action. What I asked for is some form of economic solution on both ends.
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Re: List Of People That Have Demanded Boko Haram Amnesty by gists: 11:49am On Nov 04, 2014 |
salykely: I have always known war is a very expensive venture (in terms of FINANCIALLY and human resources). But to be honest, I didn't connect the dots like you did. Nice observation from you there. To make matters worse, gej and the rubber stamp national assembly passed the $1b load swiftly at the about time when that money was sized and Nigerian army was gaining the upper hand. 2 Likes |
Re: List Of People That Have Demanded Boko Haram Amnesty by igbsam(m): 11:52am On Nov 04, 2014 |
barcanista: I tire o! 1 Like |
Re: List Of People That Have Demanded Boko Haram Amnesty by Beadex1(m): 12:09pm On Nov 04, 2014 |
Amnesty......what were de fighting for ? That's de first question we should ask them 1 Like |
Re: List Of People That Have Demanded Boko Haram Amnesty by Nobody: 12:15pm On Nov 04, 2014 |
. . . . . . . . . .UPDATING . . . . . .The below also demanded amnesty Senator Abdul Ningi - Deputy Senate leader - PDP, Bauchi http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/senator-backs-amnesty-for-boko-haram/142670/ National leadership of PDP http://www.vanguardngr.com/2013/04/boko-haram-amnesty-best-decision-at-the-moment-pdp/ more at; https://www.nairaland.com/1980859/updated-list-people-demanded-boko |
Re: List Of People That Have Demanded Boko Haram Amnesty by ALISMILE(m): 12:44pm On Nov 04, 2014 |
RagaMufeen:How is it nonsense? Do u ve a better suggestion? |
Re: List Of People That Have Demanded Boko Haram Amnesty by dejavski(m): 1:01pm On Nov 04, 2014 |
Ikengawo: What's this list about Are these the people that increased the price of Garri in Nigeria? I don't know this because I schooled in france 1 Like |
Re: List Of People That Have Demanded Boko Haram Amnesty by McSpark: 1:59pm On Nov 04, 2014 |
These list of people must be financier of boko haram, may GOD punish you and charge you of the lost souls Ikengawo: |
Re: List Of People That Have Demanded Boko Haram Amnesty by Nobody: 2:11pm On Nov 04, 2014 |
For the other's who don't value the peace and sanctity of our nation, I can understand. As for Turai Yar'Adua, what does she know? Does she even know the meaning of amnesty? Madam Turai, abeg, respect your old age oh! |
Re: List Of People That Have Demanded Boko Haram Amnesty by ISpiksDaTroof: 2:14pm On Nov 04, 2014 |
Why are GEJ and Bamanga Tukur's names missing from that list? |
Re: List Of People That Have Demanded Boko Haram Amnesty by Orunto: 3:16pm On Nov 04, 2014 |
Save your Breath, 'cos Bokoharam is some Rtd Soldiers' FRAMEWORK FOR A BLOODY CIVILIAN! |
Re: List Of People That Have Demanded Boko Haram Amnesty by blessedvisky(m): 3:33pm On Nov 04, 2014 |
Dblack:they are all Muslims too |
Re: List Of People That Have Demanded Boko Haram Amnesty by LastProphet: 4:41pm On Nov 04, 2014 |
arsetalks: hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, you are damn right! It just hit me that the clueless one actually lost his shoes and decided many years later to falsely exploit its sentimental appeal, actually only a dullard can marry and keep patience given her enormous ago and illiteracy. Its a miracle this kind of person made it up there, a nigerian miracle obviously - couldnt have happened in any country of the thinking world |
Re: List Of People That Have Demanded Boko Haram Amnesty by babestella: 5:23pm On Nov 04, 2014 |
experimentist: Islamist looking forward to entrench sharia in Nigeria, I can see how far you've gone in NE, you all will failed. Tell that to your retired general. I don't know why he can sponsor you to become president, is it that you also lack credibility and integrity that you need him to come and cleanse you? You should be ashamed if yourself for thinking that a 70 something year old General will lead you out if your pathetic situation. |
Re: List Of People That Have Demanded Boko Haram Amnesty by ISpiksDaTroof: 5:32pm On Nov 04, 2014 |
Beadex1:Ask GEJ he knows who they are. |
Re: List Of People That Have Demanded Boko Haram Amnesty by drstone1: 7:58pm On Nov 04, 2014 |
RagaMufeen: This silly thought keeps ringing my mind. .....THis could actually be the list or terror sponsors nigerians have been yearning for In a disguise. ANY WONDER wHy It is difficult to Nab this guys front on by the Govt agenCies. Some BiG Fishes require bigger Nets and manuevers in orther to be captured. The wise FISHERMAN from the creeks knows this so as not become Food for the Fishes himself..selah |
Re: List Of People That Have Demanded Boko Haram Amnesty by Nobody: 8:57pm On Nov 04, 2014 |
Boko Haram renames captured Adamawa town, Mubi to city of Islam, introduces Sharia law, amputates 10 for stealing: READ @=> http://davidvsnaija..com/2014/11/boko-haram-renames-captured-adamawa.html |
Re: List Of People That Have Demanded Boko Haram Amnesty by lumeneng22: 10:19pm On Nov 04, 2014 |
Exactly the Same people we suspect that are keeping the over 200 girls to embarrass Jonathan government. Thank God the girls are now married and not killed. They are at liberty to stay with their husbands happily poison such men to death if they feel enslaved. |
Re: List Of People That Have Demanded Boko Haram Amnesty by clemhova: 10:40pm On Nov 04, 2014 |
Ikengawo: Nicx 1 |
Re: List Of People That Have Demanded Boko Haram Amnesty by MeAboki(m): 10:52pm On Nov 04, 2014 |
gists: Well, you seem to have provided the answer to your question all by yourself - in these words: I am not talking about the type of celebrity status that the Niger Delta militants have been elevated to, but a general economic empowerment for the readily available recruits into BH foot soldiers. If a man knows he can make a decent living without comitting suicide by joining a war he is bound to lose, he certainly will think twice before enlisting to join BH[i][/i]. I was merely responding to your reaction to my initial post in which you appeared to question some of the merits pointed out by me towards amnesty; which in turn was intended to counter the OP's malicious intention against some northern APC Muslim politicians which he selectively singled out for e-attack by his bigoted friends. Unfortunately for him, he did not anticipate his plans would backfire as other names; including prominent Christians: Rev Jesse Jackson, Rev Kukah and Oga Johnny himself would be found and added to his growing list. |
Re: List Of People That Have Demanded Boko Haram Amnesty by porka: 1:22am On Nov 05, 2014 |
[quote author=karlmax2 post=27697470][/quote] Bmanga Tukur http://www.punchng.com/news/boko-haram-fighting-for-justice-tukur/ |
Re: List Of People That Have Demanded Boko Haram Amnesty by robbase: 3:26am On Nov 05, 2014 |
Hmmmmm. This tells a lot about the boko haram. Besides, which political party do these 10 belong ? Certain answers are clearly written on the wall. All the same, may God save Nigeria. |
Re: List Of People That Have Demanded Boko Haram Amnesty by Caseless: 6:53am On Nov 05, 2014 |
arsetalks:may God bless u! |
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